View Full Version : Well...I did it now (Colt + Krylon)
fivepointoh
04-03-07, 21:34
The Colt lovers are gonna hang me by a tree.
Well I finally broke down and did it...phase 1 here it is. Krylon Ultra Flat Tan.
Phase 2 will be OD misting...haven't decided on a pattern yet.
Phase 3 will be Alumahyde II Clear Matte for a lil bit of protection.
Basically I took some $1.50 or whatever brake cleaner....hosed all the parts down. Then threw on the Krylon. It was kinda windy out so I'm covered in Krylon and my arm hair feels like a I ran hair gel through it....it's so stiff.
Now only if all environments were the same color as my apartment shower tile this rifle would be perfect and no need for OD Krylon. More pics to follow! And yes the rubber Aimpoint caps weren't fully coated but I didn't care b/c most of the paint will come off the rubber caps quickly.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint002.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint004.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint003.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint007.jpg
Sorry but that was stupid. Not saying you are stupid.
At least take the easily removed parts off so it looks nicer. It's hard to paint inside crevasse's without gunking up paint. Either you have gunked up paint or you can still see black in all the nooks and crannies.
To each his own I guess....
What happens when you flip the safety? Do you see the safety's shadow?
Razorhunter
04-03-07, 22:29
I've always wondered what it would be like to do this to a gun, vs other methods.
Is this what most guys are doing, when I see them with TAN AR's??
Did you paint your CTR stock, or is naturally FDE?
How about the inside of your upper and lower? I don't see it taped off. Did paint get inside there?
I guess my biggest concern with doing this to a rifle, is the fact that I'd be scared as hell to see the rifle after paint starts wearing/chipping/flaking out of all the little areas that it's going to.
Anyone got pics of a well used rifle that previously was given a paint job like this???
What are the OTHER options aside from WalMart spray can finishes?
Is Duracoat a spray n bake, or just a spray???
Duracoat is spray and bake. You need to bake it to get it cured fast enough for reassembly supposedly.
I used to think it HAD to be baked but found out that it cures over time and will continue to cure long after the 3 weeks that are mentioned in the instructions.
It will start to suck bad when that paint chips. It's a real PITA to clean paint off of a rifle. Carb cleaner won't quite do it. It will stick in all the tight spots and be a mess.
fivepointoh
04-03-07, 23:08
Suicide...no offense taken bro. I thought about doing it the way you described by taking all the parts off to make it look better but w/ a $3 Krylon job I didn't deem it necessary. It can be taken off rather easily so I'm not worried about it. Also I did flip the safety switch while painting it so there is paint behind both selections.
Not sure I like it yet but I had to try it to know.
First thing the fiance said when she saw it.....it's ugly now. :mad: :p
fivepointoh
04-03-07, 23:17
Suicide...no offense taken bro. I thought about doing it the way you described by taking all the parts off to make it look better but w/ a $3 Krylon job I didn't deem it necessary. It can be taken off rather easily so I'm not worried about it. Also I did flip the safety switch while painting it so there is paint behind both selections.
Not sure I like it yet but I had to try it to know.
First thing the fiance said when she saw it.....it's ugly now. :mad: :p
Paul....as Suicide/Joe described some ppl go the Krylon route others go w/ Duracoat, KG Gunkote or Norrells. I've heard that Norrells is probably the best out there.
No I didn't mask anything off. I just plugged up the muzzle and went to town. I was careful to not directly spray the internals and any overspray I did get inside the receivers easily wiped off w/ CLP. Also I pulled my BCG before doing this and plugged up the chamber.
ETA: BTW my CTR was originally OD but I had painted it along w/ the other furniture before doing the whole rifle.
Robb Jensen
04-04-07, 06:47
Krylon works great, it doesn't work really good on suppressors and burns off. But it's a decent finish and it's very economical.
I used Norrels tan on my 3 gun rifles upper receiver, bbl, and JP tube and black Gunkote on the bbl nut. I used OD Gunkote on my wifes 3 gun rifle on the upper receiver, bolt carrier and bbl and black Gunkote on the cutdown FSB. My 1911 was green already (factory Springfield finish), after I replaced a bunch on parts on it I used black Gunkote on the frame and all it's parts. Both finished require degreasing, an Airbrush and baking to cure them. I usually bake at 350degrees for 1.5hrs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/newpics004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/BlackwaterIPSC/robbriflescope.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/9x193gunar001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/9x193gunar003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/1911.jpg
Suicide...no offense taken bro. I thought about doing it the way you described by taking all the parts off to make it look better but w/ a $3 Krylon job I didn't deem it necessary. It can be taken off rather easily so I'm not worried about it. Also I did flip the safety switch while painting it so there is paint behind both selections.
Not sure I like it yet but I had to try it to know.
First thing the fiance said when she saw it.....it's ugly now. :mad: :p
Typical woman/girlfriend/fiance/wife comment... They just dont understand... :confused:
PALADIN-hgwt
04-04-07, 07:57
xxxxx
Razorhunter
04-04-07, 08:54
Hey gotm4!
Sweet pics man!
What type of tube/forearm is that on your wifes rifle??
Also, I can't believe you said you put a finish on the BC? Wow, that seems like it would never even hold with all the lube you normally have on a Bolt Carrier...
Thanks for sharing the sweet pics...
fivepointoh
04-04-07, 09:02
Beautiful GotM4!
Paul....How's the Krylon holding up on your handguards?
I did mine in OD once...just regular old handguards and they didn't hold the paint at all!
I've always wondered what it would be like to do this to a gun, vs other methods.
Is this what most guys are doing, when I see them with TAN AR's??
Did you paint your CTR stock, or is naturally FDE?
How about the inside of your upper and lower? I don't see it taped off. Did paint get inside there?
I guess my biggest concern with doing this to a rifle, is the fact that I'd be scared as hell to see the rifle after paint starts wearing/chipping/flaking out of all the little areas that it's going to.
Anyone got pics of a well used rifle that previously was given a paint job like this???
What are the OTHER options aside from WalMart spray can finishes?
Is Duracoat a spray n bake, or just a spray???
Well used military rifles:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Afghanistan/Bones.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/M14inStan25thInfantryDivisions2ndBattalion27thInfantryRegiment.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/BritishRoyalMarineswithC7.jpg
And before there was Krylon, there was mustard yellow and OD green automotive paint in Rhodesia.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/RhodesianScouts.jpg
Ok so that was the OD rifle. No offense to the OD but that wasn't a hard choice to make!
You made it sound like you were taunting the kook aid drinkers because you painted a brand new rifle!
I heard that old guy in the pic above was a real bad ass. He passed away, didn't he?
I've got a lot of nice camo'd up homebrews on the old computer. Maybe I should dig them up for a new thread about homebrew camo.
I had DC'd an entire rifle after complete disassembly in Tiger Stripe Brown. Great color.
The only way to truly get that stuff off was to blast it off. I ended up rebuilding with old and new and resprayed black. Now DamnYank has it and loves it. He was only able to put one chip in it. DC sticks good to blasted aluminum and yeah, I know, not good to remove anodizing but some of it was left...
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/3d6f7f9b9351cde0f557d8eba9286aed.jpg
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/9a243ff797d76600bc80de5a437ffad2.jpg
The neat thing was the color seemed to change depending on the amount of sunlight out. In bright sunlight, it got very light. In overcast light, it deepened like a weird brown color.
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/86c0f7bb70ef3f3e400fb335126f4b92.jpg
YOU IMPROVED A COLT :D
looks a little thin in places, but overal looks good.
fivepointoh
04-04-07, 21:13
YOU IMPROVED A COLT :D
looks a little thin in places, but overal looks good.
I know I know...lol
but luckily it's going to be hit w/ some medium brown (coyote) and that'll fill in the thin spots.
thank you btw!
fivepointoh
04-04-07, 21:14
Ok so that was the OD rifle. No offense to the OD but that wasn't a hard choice to make!
You made it sound like you were taunting the kook aid drinkers because you painted a brand new rifle!
I heard that old guy in the pic above was a real bad ass. He passed away, didn't he?
I've got a lot of nice camo'd up homebrews on the old computer. Maybe I should dig them up for a new thread about homebrew camo.
I had DC'd an entire rifle after complete disassembly in Tiger Stripe Brown. Great color.
The only way to truly get that stuff off was to blast it off. I ended up rebuilding with old and new and resprayed black. Now DamnYank has it and loves it. He was only able to put one chip in it. DC sticks good to blasted aluminum and yeah, I know, not good to remove anodizing but some of it was left...
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/3d6f7f9b9351cde0f557d8eba9286aed.jpg
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/9a243ff797d76600bc80de5a437ffad2.jpg
The neat thing was the color seemed to change depending on the amount of sunlight out. In bright sunlight, it got very light. In overcast light, it deepened like a weird brown color.
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/86c0f7bb70ef3f3e400fb335126f4b92.jpg
damn that's beautiful!
Kudos for saving money on improving the concealability of your weapon. There is no need to spend money on expensive coatings that will still wear off given enough use. Krylon will scratch and rub off at the wear points faster than some gee whiz coating but that is a good thing. The less perfect the coating looks, the better it will function as camo (it’s the same idea as face paint -you know someone doesn’t know how to apply face paint when it is all perfectly applied with straight lines and such). Besides, wear marks give a weapon character, indicating that its owner actually uses it (now there is an idea) rather than just having it to show off to his buddies.
A weapon is a tool. Tools should be used and, if necessary abused -like when you bash it on the ground when you are trying to carry your buddy to the medevac helo. As a result, they are not all bright and shiny and perfect. You should see my M4. It's all sorts of ratched up, but it functions flawlessly -and that is what matters.
fivepointoh
04-05-07, 08:14
panzerr,
Thanks and I totally agree w/ you. This is actually going to be about a $30 paint job by the time I'm done buying blue tape (I know I'm gonna run out of what I have) and paint. This weekend hopefully I'll have all the paint in and I'm gonna test the pattern out on an ammo box.
-Pat
I don't agree. You seem to have a lot of tone in your response panzerr. We aren't all overseas and some of us don't have the same needs. To say "if necessary abused" is foolish. Abuse is defined as an unnecessary cruel action I think. If it is necessary, it isn't really abuse.
I didn't use a fancy expensive coating. It's duracoat. It isn't that expensive when you consider what it takes to coat a rifle. I think the amount of DC used to coat that rifle was right around $3. It was a $27 kit with 4 colors. I used half of a bottle of one color.
FYI I took my pictures right after It was refinished so if it looks nice, it's not because I am a pussy and baby my rifle unlike a real man. I'm able to keep it in a relatively cheap case and I don't throw it on the ground at the range. Maybe when I grow testicles I'll throw it on the ground so it looks real. Actually, the last pic of it outside has a lot of wear. You just can't see it because it's not almost completely worn down.
fivepointoh
04-05-07, 20:25
Alright guys lets get this thread back on track.
Here are some of the templates I have cut out along w/ spraying on some Satin Green Krylon ....overdid it so I had to mist it w/ khaki...then I used one of my templates and sprayed the green on. I still need to add some blotches of straight khaki for the lighter sand color and then add the patches of coyote...then brown...then the small white looking patches.
Here's the process so far.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint012.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint014.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint019.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint021.jpg
Get that light tan on their and it will look very nice! Not quite Multicam but it will still look nice.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/304059272_eb21993943_o.jpg
I have to ask, are you really spraying it in the tub? My favorite is shooting gunkote in the spare bedroom in January with the window open to
vent and a VOC mask on... At least the neighbors have their windows closed :D
fivepointoh
04-05-07, 23:26
:mad: Do I stupid as I look I am!?!?!? :D
Nope spraying it right outside my apartment complex. Had a few guys stop and shoot the shit...ask me if it was real or airsoft...didn't believe me so I had to wait for the paint to dry...pull the charging handle back...activate the BHO and show them. I guess they couldn't believe I was actually painting a real AR.
BTW Thanks Joe!
I'm gonna get the khaki on there tomorrow probably and then I have to wait for the coyote, brown, and white. Just got notice from fed ex that they should be here on Tuesday the 10th.
Don't remember if I've already put this in the thread but I tried using blue painters tape and it damn near pulled off all the paint :eek: So that's when I resorted to using templates by way of manilla folders! :D
:mad: Do I stupid as I look I am!?!?!? :D
You never know on the interweb. I reserve the spare bathroom for drying negatives. :cool:
Bolt_Overide
04-06-07, 00:39
I honestly dont see the sense in painting your rifle if you arent actually using it over in the sandbox, but thats just my opinion. It's your stuff, do whatever makes ya happy man, and **** whoever tells you otherwise.
C'yotecaller
04-06-07, 01:01
I tell you what fivepointoh, that last pic of it in the shower with the green on it is FLIPPING AWESOME! I love it, you have just inspired me to do mine. I have been debating it for a while but like you I decided, what the heck! It gives it some serious style. Plus if the paint starts to chip, just give it another burst of the same color of krylon and walla.
Agreed, that green is awesome. Are you going to do any more or is it all done?
SuicideHz, that post wasn't aimed at your or anyone else for that matter. You're right; I do have a lot of tone –but I won’t apologize for it. Yesterday was my one year anniversary in country and I still have four more months of patrolling the desert before I am allowed to go home and be reminded of how different civilian life is.
FYI the expensive coating I was referring was Wilson Combat's Tuff Coat. Good stuff, but I don't see any sense in spending the money on it when there are inexpensive alternatives.
fivepointoh
04-06-07, 07:18
thanks guys...I do hunt Coyotes and have thought about using it for that.
Dunno how much progress I'm gonna make in the next couple days...rain, wind, and cold cold weather in the forecast for the weekend. Plus I gotta work the night shift tonight.
FinalFusion
04-06-07, 14:19
I honestly dont see the sense in painting your rifle if you arent actually using it over in the sandbox, but thats just my opinion. It's your stuff, do whatever makes ya happy man, and **** whoever tells you otherwise.
I am still debating painting mine, but had to agree with how you said **** what everyone else thinks!!!!!
I only have a Cav Arms MKII so I am not expecting much other than firing it in the dessert and playing in the dirst with it.......Now when I get my Bushy then I might just leave it that original evil black!!!!!!!!!
FinalFusion
04-06-07, 14:24
thanks guys...I do hunt Coyotes and have thought about using it for that.
Dunno how much progress I'm gonna make in the next couple days...rain, wind, and cold cold weather in the forecast for the weekend. Plus I gotta work the night shift tonight.
Lookin siiiiiiiiiick buddy! I have made my mind up I am going to Krylon the poop out of mine when I get my YHM slapped on, and like C'yote said, when it starts flaking, spry a little more on it, only ads more character!!! Nice work fivepointoh!
FF
I didn't know you planned on going with all of the multicam colors.
I *think* if that's the case you should have picked the areas you wanted as Dark brown splotches, sprayed the area, then put a small polka dot of tape on. Then you paint over those areas with the next lightest color and mask off a shape that you want to end up being the light color. Then you progress from there on up to the overall color, leaving those individual pieces of tape on during each process...
Blue painter's tape is sticky as hell. Stickier than masking tape.
Try the light green colored stuff. I don't know if it's much easier on paint but it is supposed to be.
Bolt_Overide- I usually don't bother with guys who don't spell their own names right but here goes ;)
Yeah, there isn't a sense in painting the rifle a bright desert color if you aren't in Iraq. But, he's in Illinois where Multicam will work well. It's camouflage.
Here's a question for you- What's the point of failing miserably to pick up hot chicks at the bar when a fat one will f*ck and make babies just the same or easier?
The point is that is what he wants and it isn't a totally ridiculous idea to have a nicely camo'd rifle.
He's building skills too. Maybe he can use NMR or DC next time and not worry about his masking skills and focus on his painting skills.
Whoops. Double tap.
So, how's that Skintimate shave gel working for you?
fivepointoh
04-06-07, 17:47
Thanks Joe and the others who also commented.
It's really frickin cold here as you would know being from IN...we had flurries today :confused:
So it's on hold for now. I thought about doing the brown spots first but then once I saw how sticky that tape was (although I've used it on other paints..granted paints that the tape is made for) I decided against it. So I have made templates w/ small blotches cut out that I'm going to use.
I'll look into the green tape and maybe just try regular masking tape.
Whoops. Double tap.
So, how's that Skintimate shave gel working for you?
LOL, funniest double tap ever!
fivepointoh
04-06-07, 19:52
Whoops. Double tap.
So, how's that Skintimate shave gel working for you?
bwahaha....I was waitin for someone to comment on that....
works good...my ass is as smooth as a baby's bottom now!
:eek:
j/k fiance's crap. The bathroom gets smaller every damn week...she finds more shit to put in there than I can for my safe! :confused:
Well, you better figure out if that's ok or not while she's your fiance. Got married Nov 18 06 and it doesn't change.
your toiletries will empty and hers will just pile up.
Better to lay the ground rules NOW while you still have a chance and don't leave anything unsaid.
Women...
fivepointoh
04-07-07, 03:22
I hear ya man..I hear ya...
Oh well, she doesn't really have a problem w/ the guns so I don't say too much.
nationwide
04-07-07, 06:27
Nice lookin AR's guys!
5.0
Nice looking rifle, I had the same "do I paint my Colt" issue a couple weeks ago.
It only hurt for the first couple sprays.
http://members.cox.net/mfs1589/Wolverinea.JPG
Seth Harness
04-07-07, 11:51
Hey gotm4!
Sweet pics man!
What type of tube/forearm is that on your wifes rifle??
Also, I can't believe you said you put a finish on the BC? Wow, that seems like it would never even hold with all the lube you normally have on a Bolt Carrier...
Thanks for sharing the sweet pics...
Sorry m4, I think its a hogue rubber overmold tube. If its not hogues look identical.
Did you do the grinding on that front sight base yourself? Ive been wanting to do that, but I wasnt sure how it would turn out... I like it.
fivepointoh
04-07-07, 12:58
5.0
Nice looking rifle, I had the same "do I paint my Colt" issue a couple weeks ago.
It only hurt for the first couple sprays.
http://members.cox.net/mfs1589/Wolverinea.JPG
That looks really good. Got any distance shots w/ it?
GotM4- So that SA was the green color of the slide already and you gunkoted the frame? Oh damn. When I saw the pic in the 1911 thread and you mentioned you Gunkoted it, I was thinking you did the slide in that color and wasn't impressed with it.
Now that I know you did the frame, which is the by far the better looking area, Great Job!
Robb Jensen
04-08-07, 12:36
GotM4- So that SA was the green color of the slide already and you gunkoted the frame? Oh damn. When I saw the pic in the 1911 thread and you mentioned you Gunkoted it, I was thinking you did the slide in that color and wasn't impressed with it.
Now that I know you did the frame, which is the by far the better looking area, Great Job!
Correct the green is the factory finish (just 11K rounds later ;) ), the frame and related parts GunKoted because I added a whole bunch of new stuff (some of which is SS) and I sandblasted all the lower stuff and GunKoted in moly satin black. I might be ditching the last remaining MIM part (the Kimber 2pc magwell/mainspring housing) and using a 1pc S&A stainless magwell. I will then blend the S&A magwell to the frame and re-GunKote the frame and new magwell as well.
fivepointoh
04-08-07, 20:46
I tell ya what guys...I'm gettin excited!!! Rest of the paint will be here Tuesday and the weather is warming up a bit.
OT.....I just made a list of must have rifles before I die and came to the following list
DSA STG58 FAL
Any USGI M1A
SLR-105 (AK-74)
MP5 or clone
Robinson Arms XCR
Magpul Masada (hoping it comes out)
Garand...I know I know...I got into the gun collecting thing at the wrong time!
MG42 (would love to build one)
1919A4
along w/ some others...but damn if I could get those I would be happy....for awhile.
Back on topic....:D
Ok so that was the OD rifle. No offense to the OD but that wasn't a hard choice to make!
You made it sound like you were taunting the kook aid drinkers because you painted a brand new rifle!
I heard that old guy in the pic above was a real bad ass. He passed away, didn't he?
I've got a lot of nice camo'd up homebrews on the old computer. Maybe I should dig them up for a new thread about homebrew camo.
I had DC'd an entire rifle after complete disassembly in Tiger Stripe Brown. Great color.
The only way to truly get that stuff off was to blast it off. I ended up rebuilding with old and new and resprayed black. Now DamnYank has it and loves it. He was only able to put one chip in it. DC sticks good to blasted aluminum and yeah, I know, not good to remove anodizing but some of it was left...
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/3d6f7f9b9351cde0f557d8eba9286aed.jpg
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/9a243ff797d76600bc80de5a437ffad2.jpg
The neat thing was the color seemed to change depending on the amount of sunlight out. In bright sunlight, it got very light. In overcast light, it deepened like a weird brown color.
http://www.zoto.com/suicidehz/img/45/86c0f7bb70ef3f3e400fb335126f4b92.jpg
Not rying to Hijack your post, BUT this is some badass set ups and paint jobs. I need to send you my ar.
Send it over.
5.0- You want an M1 TANKER Carbine? I have one of those within reach. Very nice wood- very very nice. Fiberglass top in that cool brown color.
$20 worth of camo paint and a carbine.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m198/2007cam/AR15/BushSnake01.jpg
$20 worth of camo paint and a carbine.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m198/2007cam/AR15/BushSnake01.jpg
Is that a clear SureFire mount?
fivepointoh
04-09-07, 22:33
Is that a clear SureFire mount?
bwah ha ha ha!!!
Looks good bro.
BTW why do you have to bring up things like M1 Carbine's for sale when I have no money!!!! :mad:
If I had the funds I would definitely be interested but at this point in my life I have some other priorities where the money goes.
Once I get done w/ my Master's I'll hopefully have some money to let the collection get underway.
Thanks for the heads up btw.
That looks really good. Got any distance shots w/ it?
Here is one,
http://members.cox.net/mfs1589/Botha.JPG
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 13:50
MFS...looks good bro.
Okay got the extra paint in today so I went back to work on it. Turning out okay so far. Not an exact match but what can ya expect from a rattle can job. :p
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint022.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/Paint023.jpg
FinalFusion
04-10-07, 13:55
rattle can or not, your rifle turned out siiiiiiick!
I have bought the paint for mine.....Krylon!!! Just waiting for the mind to say.....GREEN LIGHT.....GREEN LIGHT.....GOOOOOO
Turned out awesome brother!
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 14:37
FinalFusion...Thanks...not done yet though. Just added the brown.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/IMG_1081.jpg
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 14:50
Well this side is done...now onto the other side!
BTW I misted the white w/ khaki to tone it down some but it stands out more on camera than in person.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/IMG_1083.jpg
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 15:38
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/MulticamRifle1.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/MulticamRifle2.jpg
FinalFusion
04-10-07, 16:22
Very nice work brother! The white really broke it apart nice, but looked just fine without it, seems like your alot like me, when your about done, you look at it, and then say oph wait I can do this too.....lol
Kick ass Camo Job buddy!
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 17:14
Thanks....yep I really am an artist as in I love to draw...do photoshop stuff...etc...so the saying holds true that, "A good artist will truly never be satisfied with his work, but must know when to quit...distinguishing him from a bad artist"....or something like that.
:p
I was looking to go into art as a career but chose to go to school for Law Enforcement instead.....all the art schools were to liberal for my likings :D
Kudos for saving money on improving the concealability of your weapon. There is no need to spend money on expensive coatings that will still wear off given enough use. Krylon will scratch and rub off at the wear points faster than some gee whiz coating but that is a good thing. The less perfect the coating looks, the better it will function as camo (it’s the same idea as face paint -you know someone doesn’t know how to apply face paint when it is all perfectly applied with straight lines and such). Besides, wear marks give a weapon character, indicating that its owner actually uses it (now there is an idea) rather than just having it to show off to his buddies.
A weapon is a tool. Tools should be used and, if necessary abused -like when you bash it on the ground when you are trying to carry your buddy to the medevac helo. As a result, they are not all bright and shiny and perfect. You should see my M4. It's all sorts of ratched up, but it functions flawlessly -and that is what matters.
+++1 million!
The smartest thing I ever did was paint the infernal thing. The paint has scratches in it,runs and looks like a total mess. and thats the point, the rifle is a tool not an herloom. It is ment to be used...hard . It only has to work when asked and without fail. FWIW one of the fellas I shoot with had a beautiful M-4. I mean all Larue hardware and what not not everything matched and it really was a pretty rifle. He then painted it and told me that he felt great about doing it as now he told me I do not look at it as a pretty thing to be cherished but as a tool. He then pointed at his noggen and said this is the weapon not the rifle. I told him welcome to the club.
FinalFusion
04-10-07, 18:22
Exactly!!!
I too dable in art, more schulpture/painting, I am into the hole alien/H.R. Giger kind of stuff though. Art is and always will be an expression, and you my freind did it well...lol
I was looking to go into art as a career but chose to go to school for Law Enforcement instead.....all the art schools were to liberal for my likings :D LMAO
Thanks....yep I really am an artist as in I love to draw...do photoshop stuff...etc...so the saying holds true that, "A good artist will truly never be satisfied with his work, but must know when to quit...distinguishing him from a bad artist"....or something like that.
:p
I was looking to go into art as a career but chose to go to school for Law Enforcement instead.....all the art schools were to liberal for my likings :D
FinalFusion
04-10-07, 18:25
Nicely put brother, alot of folks will differ, but I am right here with this one!!!!
+++1 million!
The smartest thing I ever did was paint the infernal thing. The paint has scratches in it,runs and looks like a total mess. and thats the point, the rifle is a tool not an herloom. It is ment to be used...hard . It only has to work when asked and without fail. FWIW one of the fellas I shoot with had a beautiful M-4. I mean all Larue hardware and what not not everything matched and it really was a pretty rifle. He then painted it and told me that he felt great about doing it as now he told me I do not look at it as a pretty thing to be cherished but as a tool. He then pointed at his noggen and said this is the weapon not the rifle. I told him welcome to the club.
Very nice looking.
In all actuality, these AR15s we have are NOT meant to be ridden hard and used as mere tools. They are firearms that you ought to take some care with.
Just like worrying about brass marks on the shell deflector makes you prissy, thinking you are cooler because you have more scratches is just as stupid, really stupid.
Your grandson will wish you had taken better care of your rifle when it does get passed to him. It SHOULD eventually be an heirloom if our rights aren't taken away early.
FinalFusion
04-10-07, 21:13
I agree to a certain point suicide! I am not agreeing saying I am going to ride it to shit, but a scratch here and there isnt a concern, after all in a year all coating will start fading here and there. I do agree 100% that when my kids grow up I hope to have them some fine firearms to pass down!!
Very nice looking.
In all actuality, these AR15s we have are NOT meant to be ridden hard and used as mere tools. They are firearms that you ought to take some care with.
Just like worrying about brass marks on the shell deflector makes you prissy, thinking you are cooler because you have more scratches is just as stupid, really stupid.
Your grandson will wish you had taken better care of your rifle when it does get passed to him. It SHOULD eventually be an heirloom if our rights aren't taken away early.
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 21:32
I take care of my rifles the best I can.....way I look at it is...if I get some scratches on it...I'll be pissed for a moment...but shit happens. I won't pull a Napoleon and go dragging my AR across the driveway but if I have to use it hard...I'm not gonna sweat it when something makes it uglier.
It's one thing to put wear and tear on a rifle...another thing to abuse it.
I was talking to Vinnie.
:p
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 21:56
Ya I know...I just figured I'd put in my $.02 :D
fivepointoh
04-10-07, 23:01
BTW Guys...did a HOW TO over on ARFCOM.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=139&t=565579&page=1
[QUOTE=SuicideHz;47256]Very nice looking.
In all actuality, these AR15s we have are NOT meant to be ridden hard and used as mere tools. They are firearms that you ought to take some care with.
they are taken care of..... there used and used often and used hard. and then cleaned and regular matinece on them and used more......... if does no good sitting in the safe looking pretty.
One of my well used well taken care of guns.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/gunnfixr/carbine1/carbine1009.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/gunnfixr/arondeck.jpg and another
and this one..
http://www.actshooters.com/0207/10.JPG
We run these guns hard..... and yeap there tools of the trade.. they get used they get some abuse they get knocked around abit they get there scratches dings nicks etc... it the nature of the beast... you train with them you shoot them you compete with them you use them on duty, they get there boo boos. so what it happens. vinnie isnt saying to drag it around behind a truck..... on a gravel road.
I thought I was reading tone from Vinnie that suggested Vinnie was one of the crowd that thinks you couldn't possibly know enough about your AR until it's beat up. There are those guys out there and they piss me off as much as the green laser guys.
If he's not one of them, I apologize for insinuating he was. I thought he may have been.
But, Vinnie was responding to panzerr who sounded like a tool himself. He sounded like the type that will insist you yourself are a pussy if your gun looks nice.
Hell, if I sprayed my rifle with Krylon it would be worn all to hell too. It's not hard to wear off. But, it's not. It's black and it doesn't drag on asphalt.
My DC'd rifle had scratches and nicks too. They were REGULAR and REAL scratches and dings- nothing that shows up easily on pictures. To have had "cool" scratches that showed up in pictures I would have had to really beat on it and that just isn't necessary.
Nah its all good Vinnie is a serious student and gear whore fashion model on the side. his dago accent makes him hard to read. he uses baby wipes on his gun to make them smell pretty. but he would never drag it around on purpose.:D
fivepointoh
04-12-07, 20:49
So anyways guys....:D
I'm working on the other side now that the weather has cleared and I'm also doing a mag. Turning out good so far.
BTW Steve, I really like that first rifle!
The OTHER side?
WTF? Was it lying down on the ground when you did that painting? How about just do the other side in desert digital or something?
So anyways guys....:D
I'm working on the other side now that the weather has cleared and I'm also doing a mag. Turning out good so far.
BTW Steve, I really like that first rifle!
Thanks brother
it was gift from Steve Troy and SinnFéinM1911. it is topped with an Eotech 553 and an LMT stock and tango down gear.
I it is my main stay teaching rifle. that gun feels like love when i shoulder it. also a BFG LAV sling.
So where are you in Michigan? Close at all to Indiana?
pretty close....... my main range is near battle creek lets shoot.
I've got two friends I've gotten into ARs. I'd like to make a trip with them.
But, one is having a tough time making it to the pistol leagues we're trying to attend regularly. I don't know about the other one making the trip either...
I'll have to look into it.
I'm at the point I might want to put some classes under my belt.
fivepointoh
04-12-07, 23:15
The OTHER side?
WTF? Was it lying down on the ground when you did that painting? How about just do the other side in desert digital or something?
Cardboard box!
I don't have a garage to be hanging this shit in to paint from!
I was actually thinkin of doing the other side in hot pink....to show my manly side of things.....
That way I can fit in w/ both the outdoors type and the soccer mom type....:p
FinalFusion
04-13-07, 10:32
lol, think the soccer moms would love it, but your buddys will never let that one go.....lol:D
post some pics after you get the other half tripped out.....later brother
Cardboard box!
I don't have a garage to be hanging this shit in to paint from!
I was actually thinkin of doing the other side in hot pink....to show my manly side of things.....
That way I can fit in w/ both the outdoors type and the soccer mom type....:p
Rock-N-Ruin
04-19-07, 19:49
My initial thoughts were WTF?? I have seen some up close done in just one color and wasn't too impressed.
Now I am wishing I hadn't sold my old Bushy! It would have been a perfect canidate to "go digital" with... It was well used, but with care. I wasn't too sure of the paint idea when it was only one color, but it started to grow on me, especially after the white was added.. (found new sig line) It looks damn good!
it's almost time I pick up a quality parts kit, a Stag lower and make some digital camo patterns for.. hmmmm?? digital urban camo???.. :D
I am planning a build on a PFO lower w/Vltor upper, etc. and I don't think I'll be able to paint that one. Ya just never know, one of my shotguns is lookin like a prime test subject. You can always dissasemble, sandblast, send parts to Robar, and re-assemble. :D
Signature-- "Krylon makes it a Colt"
fivepointoh
04-20-07, 16:57
My initial thoughts were WTF?? I have seen some up close done in just one color and wasn't too impressed.
Now I am wishing I hadn't sold my old Bushy! It would have been a perfect canidate to "go digital" with... It was well used, but with care. I wasn't too sure of the paint idea when it was only one color, but it started to grow on me, especially after the white was added.. (found new sig line) It looks damn good!
it's almost time I pick up a quality parts kit, a Stag lower and make some digital camo patterns for.. hmmmm?? digital urban camo???.. :D
I am planning a build on a PFO lower w/Vltor upper, etc. and I don't think I'll be able to paint that one. Ya just never know, one of my shotguns is lookin like a prime test subject. You can always dissasemble, sandblast, send parts to Robar, and re-assemble. :D
Signature-- "Krylon makes it a Colt"
Hehe..I hear ya man. I used to hate camo'd rifles but then they grew on me. The black simply gets boring sometimes. You can always go a digital camo using some sort of coyote or khaki as it blends in well w/ pretty much any environment. Gray and khaki may work well.
But black is sexy and PFO recently changed their name to POF ;)
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