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rob_s
02-16-10, 15:24
Thumb-HOLE instead of stud, Axis lock, two sizes, G10 handles!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/bm1502030.jpg


15020 (http://www.benchmade.com/products/15020)
Blade Length: 3.36"
Blade Thickness: 0.125"
Handle Thickness: 0.735"
Blade Material: D2 Tool Steel
Blade Hardness: 60-62HRC
Blade Style: Drop-Point
Weight: 5.59oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black Steel, Reversible
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 8.20"
Closed Length: 4.84"

15030 (http://www.benchmade.com/products/15030)
Blade Length: 2.95"
Blade Thickness: 0.115"
Handle Thickness: 0.618"
Blade Material: D2 Tool Steel
Blade Hardness: 60-62HRC
Blade Style: Drop-Point
Weight: 3.46oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black Steel, Reversible
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 7.08"
Closed Length: 4.13"


Now if they could get back in bed with Emerson and put a "wave" on it I'd be set!
(I do think the name, and texture on the grip, are both gayer than aids, but I'll make do)

rob_s
02-16-10, 15:29
If they ever get around to making a "mini" version of the 741 Onslaught (http://www.benchmade.com/products/741) I'd probably be happier with that.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/bm741.jpg


Blade Length: 4.28"
Blade Thickness: 0.121"
Handle Thickness: 0.650"
Blade Material: 154CM Stainless Steel
Blade Hardness: 58-60HRC
Blade Style: Modified Clip-Point
Weight: 6.96oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black, Steel
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 9.63"
Closed Length: 5.47"

M4Fundi
02-16-10, 15:54
I believe they were paying attention, only Spyderco had a patent on the "circular" thumb hole.

rob_s
02-16-10, 15:57
Benchmade had a hole in the blade at least 10 years ago with the AFCK. Dunno if they were paying royalties or what, but they've been making knives with holes in them consistently since the AFCK.

travistheone
02-16-10, 16:20
2010 benchmade stuff looks great. How bout the sibert designed framelock? Hot.

sparkman
02-16-10, 17:37
Benchmade had a hole in the blade at least 10 years ago with the AFCK. Dunno if they were paying royalties or what, but they've been making knives with holes in them consistently since the AFCK.

Now, that MiniAFCK half serrated was a sweeet knife. I carried one every day for
over 5 years til I lost it in Manitoba), been trying to replace it since...I still have the
full size AFCK ,but its a little large for EDC.

elkknuckle
02-16-10, 17:56
(I do think the name, and texture on the grip, are both gayer than aids, but I'll make do)

Hahaha gayer than aids, i like saying gayer than sucking on a bag of penises when something is really homersexual. on a serious note, the 741 onslaught looks pretty sweet

Azul
02-16-10, 20:15
What makes these different from the Griptilians, i have one that looks pretty darn close except for the texturing on the grip and perhaps a slight blade curve difference?

What is the benefit of D2 vs 154CM

M4Fundi
02-16-10, 23:17
They were paying royalties as I recall and then changed it to an oval hole which wasn't as popular. I have one of the original circular hole AFCK Minis that goes in my Dop Kit.:)

David Thomas
02-17-10, 00:00
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/bm1502030.jpg


15020 (http://www.benchmade.com/products/15020)
Blade Length: 3.36"
Blade Thickness: 0.125"
Handle Thickness: 0.735"
Blade Material: D2 Tool Steel
Blade Hardness: 60-62HRC
Blade Style: Drop-Point
Weight: 5.59oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black Steel, Reversible
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 8.20"
Closed Length: 4.84"

(I do think the name, and texture on the grip, are both gayer than aids, but I'll make do)


Very nice.
That may be my next knife purchase. I could care less about the name.

Might not replace my current favorite:a 940 Osborne like this:

http://www.benchmade.com/products/940

But it looks like a very suitable alternative.

dookie1481
02-17-10, 01:38
I just ordered a 555HG, it seems to fit your criteria minus the G10 handles.

What makes you prefer them, the "grippyness" of them relative to plastic?

Jay

FromMyColdDeadHand
02-17-10, 01:42
940s rock, I have three of them. Why the desire for a thumbhole? I don't even use the thumb stud to open mine.

rob_s
02-17-10, 04:25
What makes these different from the Griptilians, i have one that looks pretty darn close except for the texturing on the grip and perhaps a slight blade curve difference?

What is the benefit of D2 vs 154CM

I have a Griptillian (or, had, I can't find it lately, along with god knows how many other BMs). It fits the bill relatively well, but the plastic handle vs. the G10 tends to be thicker/fatter.

D2 is harder, therefore a little harder to sharpen but also holds an edge longer. In theory, anyway.

rob_s
02-17-10, 04:27
940s rock, I have three of them. Why the desire for a thumbhole? I don't even use the thumb stud to open mine.

I prefer the hole over the stud because it doesn't get caught on deep cuts, and doesn't get as mucked up with whatever it is you're cutting.

crowkiller
02-17-10, 06:28
If they ever get around to making a "mini" version of the 741 Onslaught (http://www.benchmade.com/products/741) I'd probably be happier with that.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/bm741.jpg


Blade Length: 4.28"
Blade Thickness: 0.121"
Handle Thickness: 0.650"
Blade Material: 154CM Stainless Steel
Blade Hardness: 58-60HRC
Blade Style: Modified Clip-Point
Weight: 6.96oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black, Steel
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 9.63"
Closed Length: 5.47"

The black coated plain edge will probably be my next knife purchase. I wish they would make it in D2 or S30V.

photosniper
02-18-10, 07:33
I wish Benchmade would do away with the Axis lock and go back to a liner or traditional lock-back design. The axis design is ok on a knife that is used as a tool, but not for defensive purposes. Depending on the grip in which the knife is held, it is too easy to unlatch the knife with an axis lock and end up with cut fingers.

FromMyColdDeadHand
02-18-10, 07:54
I wish Benchmade would do away with the Axis lock and go back to a liner or traditional lock-back design. The axis design is ok on a knife that is used as a tool, but not for defensive purposes. Depending on the grip in which the knife is held, it is too easy to unlatch the knife with an axis lock and end up with cut fingers.

I'm not a knife fighter, but the Axis lock is the main reason I buy Benchmade. Simple to flick open, easy to close one handed. I've never seen people complain about the blade folding inadvertantly??

rob_s
02-18-10, 08:01
I'm not a knife fighter, but the Axis lock is the main reason I buy Benchmade. Simple to flick open, easy to close one handed. I've never seen people complain about the blade folding inadvertantly??

I agree. I vastly prefer the Axis to other options. I'm not a knife figther either, and while I want to be able to defend myself with a knife if need by, I'm not buying knives for defense first. They are tools first, fantasy ninja weapons second.

Jerm
02-18-10, 12:25
I wish Benchmade would do away with the Axis lock and go back to a liner or traditional lock-back design. The axis design is ok on a knife that is used as a tool, but not for defensive purposes. Depending on the grip in which the knife is held, it is too easy to unlatch the knife with an axis lock and end up with cut fingers.


The Axis lock is the main reason I buy Benchmade.I've never liked liner locks or spine locks.

I find the Axis lock to not only be much easier to use than the alternatives,but more secure as well.

photosniper
02-18-10, 15:07
I agree. I vastly prefer the Axis to other options. I'm not a knife figther either, and while I want to be able to defend myself with a knife if need by, I'm not buying knives for defense first. They are tools first, fantasy ninja weapons second.

Well, considering I don't know anything about fantasy ninja weapons, I couldn't comment on that Rob.

There is at least one knife grip that puts the Axis lock right under the thumb for right handed users. A modified rapier grip (with the blade horizontal) places the thumb right on the lock. The lock can also be released with the inside of the thumb with a normal hammer fist grip.

If you like the Axis design and are comfortable with the possibility of the blade closing on your fingers when you need the knife the most, that is your choice.

rob_s
02-18-10, 15:17
Well, considering I don't know anything about fantasy ninja weapons, I couldn't comment on that Rob.

There is at least one knife grip that puts the Axis lock right under the thumb for right handed users. A modified rapier grip (with the blade horizontal) places the thumb right on the lock. The lock can also be released with the inside of the thumb with a normal hammer fist grip.

If you like the Axis design and are comfortable with the possibility of the blade closing on your fingers when you need the knife the most, that is your choice.

I'll try and avoid getting into rapier fights instead. ;)

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/zo8hs.jpg

Jerm
02-18-10, 15:28
If you like the Axis design and are comfortable with the possibility of the blade closing on your fingers when you need the knife the most, that is your choice.

Of the 3 types of locks in question the Axis is the only one which I haven't had inadvertently unlocked on me.It was the primary reason I was looking for an alternative to begin with.

FromMyColdDeadHand
02-18-10, 17:21
Can someone send me the link to the super fantasy ninja knife fighting website.

Actually, seriously, can someone point me to a general knife fighting website. I am currently at the steak cutting ninja level and I'd at least like to learn some basics.

Unfortunately, my 940s get used more for Talbot's box opening for my wife, anoying gray tie cutting in childrens toys packaging, and the occasional weed hari-kari in the front garden.

My wife cringes at our kids birthday parties where I pull out my 940 and pop it using centrifigul force to get the blade out. DIE gray tie!!!

msr
02-21-10, 00:26
Just handled the 741 Onslaught today. That is one big folder. It felt great in the hand whether forward or reverse grip (not sure of the right phrase) but is quite large. I will be very interested in a smaller version. I saw it at a Benchmade retailer so they are shipping.

Chooie
02-21-10, 00:33
Nice, looks like I found something to sideline my 550HG Griptilian (that has a round thumb hole, btw - see pic below, right smack in the middle)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/chooie/DSC00331.jpg

FMCDH,

Check out Michael Janich's site, http://www.martialbladeconcepts.com/.

dookie1481
02-21-10, 03:51
Nice, looks like I found something to sideline my 550HG Griptilian (that has a round thumb hole, btw - see pic below, right smack in the middle)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/chooie/DSC00331.jpg

FMCDH,

Check out Michael Janich's site, http://www.martialbladeconcepts.com/.

Funny, I almost bought the 550HG but I went with the 555HG instead...the size is perfect (that's what she said).

Jay

longball
07-18-11, 19:33
Thumb-HOLE instead of stud, Axis lock, two sizes, G10 handles!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/bm1502030.jpg


15020 (http://www.benchmade.com/products/15020)
Blade Length: 3.36"
Blade Thickness: 0.125"
Handle Thickness: 0.735"
Blade Material: D2 Tool Steel
Blade Hardness: 60-62HRC
Blade Style: Drop-Point
Weight: 5.59oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black Steel, Reversible
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 8.20"
Closed Length: 4.84"

15030 (http://www.benchmade.com/products/15030)
Blade Length: 2.95"
Blade Thickness: 0.115"
Handle Thickness: 0.618"
Blade Material: D2 Tool Steel
Blade Hardness: 60-62HRC
Blade Style: Drop-Point
Weight: 3.46oz.

Clip: Tip-Up, Black Steel, Reversible
Lock Mechanism: AXIS
Overall Length: 7.08"
Closed Length: 4.13"


Now if they could get back in bed with Emerson and put a "wave" on it I'd be set!
(I do think the name, and texture on the grip, are both gayer than aids, but I'll make do)

I know this is an old thread but have you (rob_s) or anybody else used one of these knives? I am asking because I am in the market for a new EDC and saw one of these in a local shop. I have narrowed my choices down to a spyderco delica, delica wave, mini-griptilian, or one of these bone collector editions because of the d2 steel.

rob_s
07-18-11, 19:39
I have not, no.