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Outlander Systems
03-04-10, 10:48
Okay, normally I score my range ammo at Wal*Mart or Dick's, but this is ridiculous.
I haven't seen .45 ACP at any of the 5 'Marts in my area, and I was laughed at when asking about it at Dick's last week.
Am I missing something? My dad just picked up 600 rounds of 9mm at Wal*Mart without even getting excited.
WTF, over?
.45 is hit or miss in my area...sometimes they have some times they dont.....Just depends on how lucky you are that day...
What are you paying up that way for the 100ct winchester whitebox??
I know our wally's had some a few months ago...I can check this weekend if you want. Friggin shipping them up there would be murder from down here though.
What are you paying up that way for the 100ct winchester whitebox??
I know our wally's had some a few months ago...I can check this weekend if you want. Friggin shipping them up there would be murder from down here though.
around $37-38 (before tax for WWB 100 round)
When they have hit WWB JHP 100 round are usually $48 (generally about $10 more)
I scored some Federal 9mm at Walmart about 2 mos. ago. Around here, SoCal., you have to just be in the right place at the right time to score. People that keep track of the Walmart ammo shipments get there early and wipe them out. I have a couple of gun stores here that have Fiocchi 45 acp, brass case 230 gr. FMJ for 21.95 pretty much every time I have gone in. That's about as good as it gets here.
Start reloading. Thats about the only way I have been able to constantly shoot it. Having 1000 rounds loaded with components for about 10k more is a very comforting feeling.
Start reloading. Thats about the only way I have been able to constantly shoot it. Having 1000 rounds loaded with components for about 10k more is a very comforting feeling.
Most definitely.......it is the only way I can afford it, I almost never shoot factory ammo in my 9 & 45, most of my shooting is combat type matches.
I saw 4 100 rd boxes of WWB at Wal-Mart last night.
Outlander Systems
03-04-10, 14:40
I saw 4 100 rd boxes of WWB at Wal-Mart last night.
Lucky bastard!
'Round here the WWB is going for ~$39.00 at the 'Mart and ~$50.00 at Dick's.
I mean, I haven't even seen JHPs...
About a year ago, I ran across a deal on Sportsmans Guide for 20rd boxes of Hornady TAP 230g ammo for $14/box. Needless to say, I bought 20 boxes.
I've also been ordering WWB .45 from them in 500 lots. Up until this last order, which is back ordered until July, I was getting them in about 10 days for way better than Wal-Mart. I've got enough for the Magpul class and for a few more training sessions, but after that, I'll be back on the hunt for more. Almost all my ammo has been bought online over the past 3 years. It's just easier than hunting it down and cheaper than the rip off artists at most shops around here.
FromMyColdDeadHand
03-04-10, 15:23
What is the new price for 50rnd WWB at Wally World now. Gander Mountian has WWB for $30/box!
Needed some for an upcoming class so I got some Federal from Palmetto and some WWB from AmmuntionToGo. They had some Hornady 5.56 75gr loads too ;)
I was at a Walmart last week where he was just unloading from the truck. WWB was $33.00 and hollow point was $40.00... was at agun store, same price on theirs and they had maybe 30 boxes...
MarshallDodge
03-04-10, 16:21
I agree about reloading.
I can load 230 grain lead round nose for less than $100 per thousand. It takes a little more effort to clean the gun but the savings is well worth the effort.
Eddiesketti
03-04-10, 17:22
I look everytime i go to Walmart. I haven't seen any for 2 months now. There is a limit of 5 boxes for the Walmart i go to, but they never have 5 boxes of anything except 22lr.
I bought six 100 rd. 9mm WWB for 20.97 a piece a week ago. Though it's not always on the shelf, between the four Wal-marts in my area I have been able to get a decent supply of 9mm. I don't see .45 as much and don't shoot a lot of it, but if I see it I'll usually pick up a box or so, at 31.00 bucks.
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/45-acp-fmj-ammo
Haven't seen anything decent at Wally since last Fall, local Bass Pro just started getting some handgun ammo on the shelves. I don't remember exact prices, not outragous, but a little more than in the past.
I reload my own .45 ACP and LC, .38 and .44, but like to keep some factory stuff on hand too!
Good luck.................
Okay, normally I score my range ammo at Wal*Mart or Dick's, but this is ridiculous.
I haven't seen .45 ACP at any of the 5 'Marts in my area, and I was laughed at when asking about it at Dick's last week.
Am I missing something? My dad just picked up 600 rounds of 9mm at Wal*Mart without even getting excited.
WTF, over?
I'll tell you where to find .45 if you tell me where to find 9mm ;)
I called one of my local gun stores and asked if they had .45 ammo. They said yes, but the limit was 5 boxes at a time. I made the mistake of not asking what it cost and went there and bought three boxes at $32.50 a box!!! Ouch.
Outlander Systems
03-05-10, 09:39
I'll tell you where to find .45 if you tell me where to find 9mm ;)
I shit ye not: I was at Wal*Mart looking for some sort of tackle/storage box for spare parts, and curiously went by the ammo section.
I counted 58 boxes of 50-round 9mm. 2900 f'in rounds. Not a .45 in the place.
What's boggling my mind is that I've always thought 9mm was more common than .45.
Your best bet is to reload. I cast my own bullets and save even more. Love the shooter that leave their brass on the ground that also saves me money.
I also load steel cases from Wolf. use them as my throw away cases if I am out where the grass is tall. Have over 1K of loaded 45 ACP, 1.3K 5.56 etc, 06 500, 38 Spl. over 2K, etc
When winter comes it's reloading time.:D
Just found cci blazer aluminum case .45 for 16.99 a box at natchezss. Not the best, but ain't bad either.
Wideners had Blazer for 15.95 per box. By the time I talked myself into some, it was Blazer history. :mad:
Cabelas in my area had some Fiochi 45acp. They also had some of the junk varieties... MHS or whatever it's called... and that Black and white boxed crap from God knows what country.
One of my local gun shops (California) has Blazer at $25.00 per box (ouch), but the do have quite a bit.
One of my local gun shops (California) has Blazer at $25.00 per box (ouch), but the do have quite a bit.
That's about what my local gun store has it priced at as well. There's no sense in paying that when you don't even get brass to reload.
Haven't seen .45 WWB in a WalMart in a very long time. Fortunately, I started reloading my own 230g fmj when this dry spell started. At $17 per 100, its like paying yourself $50 an hour to pull a handle.
No kidding. My M&P 45 hasn't even fired a single round of factory ball ammo.
When I bought my XD-45 I had no brass and bought 1 box. In about 6 months I had about 1K of loaded 45 ACP. I had a 45 ACP years ago and Had molds to cast 2types of bullets. 230gr. Round nose & 200 gr SWC.
P.S.
Also I still have that box of store bought ammo. :D
I just picked up 6 boxes of Federal 45 auto 230 gr FMJ RN(50 rd boxes @ $15.97) at the local Walmart. The 45 auto ammo does come in but it goes quickly.
I am starting of seeing 45acp quite regularly lately
I've been searching for .45 for about 2 months now. I just can't find a price I'm happy with. I'm not paying over 20 bucks for target ammo. I just can't
This may be the straw that get's me into reloading. I should be doing it anyways by now.....
I picked up a case of 9mm for around 250 at the local gun store the other week, but I'm down to half a box of .45. Very very sad.
I've been searching for .45 for about 2 months now. I just can't find a price I'm happy with. I'm not paying over 20 bucks for target ammo. I just can't
This may be the straw that get's me into reloading. I should be doing it anyways by now.....
I picked up a case of 9mm for around 250 at the local gun store the other week, but I'm down to half a box of .45. Very very sad.
DO IT!! I've been reloading for 28 yrs.. Right now I have 500rnds of .45 ready to go with about 1000 more cases waiting,I don't have a shortage of .45. The last time I figured it up, I'm loading a box of 45acp for $7-8 .45 is very easy to load, and there are endless bullet/powder combo's to try..The price of quality reloading equiptment will be quickly recouped with the savings made possible by loading your own..
Yep. I have 845 rounds through my relatively new M&P 45.... and maybe 10 or 20 of those were factory rounds of ammo. The rest has been all reloads.
It WAS like that in my neck of the woods....all until I became broke. I have counted like 10 boxes at 2 Wal Marts.....and of course I can't pick any up cause well like I said I mans is BROKE!!! LOL!!!
All of you people that don't reload sure like to waste money!!!!!
The only cost I have is 3.2 cents for the primer and about 3 to 5 cents for powder. The lead is free if you cast your own. Most of the brass I have I picked up at the range. Also you can reload Wolf steel cases if it has one flash hole I use the wolf case ammo when I am in an area that I will lose brass due to tall grass or rocks. :D
All of you people that don't reload sure like to waste money!!!!!
QUIET!!! We don't need more people in the components market!!
Charliebthomas
04-30-10, 13:04
my buddy has both a .45 glock (i think its a G30) and a Taurus judge (.45 colt) and he doesnt have any problems with funding .45 rounds for both guns. We live in SC btw
It's not about being able to afford the ammo, it's a waste of money when you shoot the gun and throw away the brass. Brass is about 1/2 the cost of a box of ammo. Some of the posters are buying 20 boxes of 45 ACP at $35+ for a box of ammo that's $700 dollars. For that kind of money you can setup one fantastic reloading setup!!!! Just due the math.
When I started reloading in 1958 ammo was cheaper than today but wages where low. It was still the cost factor as it is today! So reload and shoot more and not worry about finding ammo when it's scarce.
My local WalMart stocks WWB (Pistol), UMC bulk (Pistol), and Federal (Rifle). I buy 9mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP, 380 Auto, 308, and 223. The UMC 250 round bulk goes the quickest. The WWB is generally in stock short of the 380. They seem to have the 100 round 223 in stock most of the time.
The key is to get to know the clerk that has the ammo delivery lists. They tell me when stuff is coming in so I can plan accordingly.
I think I will have to start reloading again. Back about 40 years ago I was reloading .30-06 for my rifle, then got married and started to raise a family. Now that my kids have their own familes and I am retired it will something to keep me out of trouble. :rolleyes: That and I also have three .45s and probably will buy my fourth later in May. :D
are any of you having a hard time finding components?
mnagant762
05-01-10, 00:07
The local Wal Mart had 6 boxes of UMC 250 rnd. bulk pacs of .45 at 4:30 this morning
The only thing I had to buy was a carton of large pistol primers for my 45 ACP, 45 colt & 44 mag. They were in stock at several places. I had on hand lots of powder so I had no problem. Powder was in short supply for a short time but now everybody has powder.
I cast my own bullets for my all my pistols so thats not a problem. I have so much loaded ammo on hand that I would not have to load any for a while. The ony problem is I hate to see an empty case sitting there.
are any of you having a hard time finding components?
Not at all. Cabelas here has plated, cast, and FMJ 45 bullets every time I've been in there for the past few weeks.
I've picked up a pound of HP-38 on two of my trips. They had W231 on the shelf last time too.
They haven't had a big selection of Primers, but those are easy to get on the web if you're buying enough to pay the hazmat.
are any of you having a hard time finding components?
Wait times are much shorter than they were six months ago. I've had backorders for LP primers from Powder Valley and .45 FMJ from Roze Distribution over the past year. Last week, I received a primer order from two months ago and a bullet order from three weeks ago. Primers are starting to show up at my local gun shop, and they've always had powder in stock whenever I needed it.
Today, 3 wal marts I frequent got their ammo shipment.
No 45. Not sold out. Just didn't get any. All 3 of them.
**** it, it's time to order online, because this is stupid.:mad:
davestarbuck
05-09-10, 23:45
The only factory ammo I buy now is .22lr....
-dave
Found a Wal-mart in a pretty rough part of town with a good amount of .45. I came out with two 250rd boxes of UMC and 4 100rd boxes of WWB. I made out pretty good :D
Found a Wal-mart in a pretty rough part of town with a good amount of .45.
Yeah!!! They shoot 9's shitty part of town. Yo Yo Yo!!
the local dicks sporting goods had 5 boxes of 250rd bulk pack .45 for 119$...and the same quantity of reloads for 65$...
Yeah!!! They shoot 9's shitty part of town. Yo Yo Yo!!
i highly doubt they horde the welfare check to get a new Nighthawk Predator:p
Belmont31R
05-12-10, 18:02
Yes ammo is out there....found this today, and bought a ton.... GT Distributors in Austin, TX....
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/BM31R/41c6235e.jpg
^^^^^^^^^Is that a 50rd box for $7!?!? What freakin' alternate universe did you come from? Cause that ain't happening anywhere around here.
Belmont31R
05-12-10, 19:02
^^^^^^^^^Is that a 50rd box for $7!?!? What freakin' alternate universe did you come from? Cause that ain't happening anywhere around here.
I wish but no. Its a 20rd box same as this: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/20rds-45-acp-speer-gold-dot-230gr-hollow-point-ammo/cName/45-acp-hollow-point-ammo
And this (2nd from bottom): http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp;jsessionid=HIINGUR4XF55ZLAQBBICCN3MCAEFCIWE?id=0062797214249a&navCount=3&podId=0062797&parentId=cat20837&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat602007-cat20837&catalogCode=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20837&hasJS=true&_requestid=108396
I was out today, coming back from 5 wal marts, no fmj 45acp at all. haven't seen any for about 2 weeks now.
Oh....but they're stacked DEEP with 9mm and 40sw federal and WWB, but no 45 at all. Only self defense ammo, boxes of 20rds.
For no reason, they have unpopular calibers that never move off the shelf like 25acp, 32acp, FREAKING WWB 357 SIG WTF-OVER?,.............but no fmj 45acp.
I don't understand how the ammo industry works. How can you not supply something like 45acp, a 100+ year American round?
Or maybe they try their best, and just can't meet demand? I don't know I'm just mumbling now.
Bad enough a box at wal mart costs $17 after tax, but the fact 99% of the time, even on supply day, it's not on the shelves! That's the irritating part, that fact that they never have them on the shelves.
You know what an employee(or manager, different uniform) told me? He said sometimes certain wal mart stores won't get ANY 45acp fmj from the distribution center because there simply isn't enough to go around. Holy crap.
I think my 45 has to go.
I have been Finding it a 3 local wally worlds ,I even got some Winchester White Box 230 GR JHP 45 50 rds 20 Bucks .They get at Least 4 Boxes of the 100 rd Packs for 39.99 But you got to catch them when they Put it Out
I have had better luck on the Internet ,Just got 150 rds of Winchester 230 GR T-Series RA45T for 90 Bucks shipped:eek: Off the EE on TOS It Is out there it is Just Like Hunting easter eggs.Damn you feel Good when you Get Some:D
kal it's time for you to start reloading!!! I have over 1000 rds of 45 ACP loaded now and have more empty cases to load. :D
Picked up a Federal American Eagle "Value Pack" of 250 rounds yesterday for $100 at the local gun shop.
Today was supply day.
Went to 5 wal marts.
Only the last one I went to had 45 auto FMJ at all. It was about 12pm and they only had 4 boxes of federal 45auto and no WWB.
45acp is in a pathetic state of availability. Once again, 9mm and 40sw were stacked to no end, along with sporadic 25, 32, etc.
The internet also is sad. All I see is "OUT OF STOCK".
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/45-acp-fmj-ammo
"IN STOCK!":D
I might place a order. Either from ammo to go or jgsales. I think jgsales have a better deal on tulammo. Like 20+ boxes for $15.50.
Not bad!
Outlander Systems
05-28-10, 21:00
I can not comprehend this. My brother and father told me that all the four 'Marts in our area had WWB in 9mm and .40 busting out of the glass cases, but not a single .45 in any of the shops. No one has given any plausible explanations for this phenomenon. It literally drives me nuts.
I can not comprehend this. My brother and father told me that all the four 'Marts in our area had WWB in 9mm and .40 busting out of the glass cases, but not a single .45 in any of the shops. No one has given any plausible explanations for this phenomenon. It literally drives me nuts.
My frustration with this issue drove me to reloading. Maybe its time you gave it a thought.
browningboy84
06-02-10, 01:16
The local Wal-Marts around here have it in stock. My buddy just bought about 20 boxes in the last 2 weeks from Wally World. Me, I just laugh at him, and keep on reloading.
I have been Preaching reloading since this Thread started on this subject. Over the last week I reloaded 250 rds. of 5.56 now I have over 2,000 rds. I don't have enough empty 45 ACP cases. Guess I will have to shoot some. But there is no rush I have over 1,000 rds. So there is no rush! :D
I don't have enough empty 45 ACP cases.
I have more than I can afford bullets for.
I cast my own bullets. for all my pistols and I also have bullet moldsw for my rifles 30 cal & 7mm. If times do get bad I'll be able to still shoot.
I thought about getting into reloading, but after watching some youtube videos......no, just no.
It felt tedious only watching. Also it seems like if the only thing you want to do is operate the handle manually, you have to buy bullet feeders, case feeders, etc ,etc ,etc, and maybe other things that I don't know the names of. That's alot of $$$.
I'd rather have Federal Cartridge, Tula Cartridge Works, And Winchester Ammunition do all that work for me.
Seems like buying the ammo components separately doesn't save you a dime. The only part you're saving money on is the brass casing because it can be reused. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I have more than I can afford bullets for.
Then sell some of the .45 brass to these desperate folks.
:D
I got 750rnds of fed @ 16.xx and 600 of white box @ 32.xx from walmart. It's comming back into stock around here :cool:
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Seems like buying the ammo components separately doesn't save you a dime. The only part you're saving money on is the brass casing because it can be reused. Correct me if I'm wrong.
YEs, you are wrong. The component cost is significantly less than the ammo costs in most cases. However, your equipment investment and time investment is not factored into the final per round cost. If you don't load a lot, it takes a long time to make up the equipment investment cost.
Most people find they don't save money reloading -- they just shoot a lot more for the same money :)
YEs, you are wrong. The component cost is significantly less than the ammo costs in most cases. However, your equipment investment and time investment is not factored into the final per round cost. If you don't load a lot, it takes a long time to make up the equipment investment cost.
Most people find they don't save money reloading -- they just shoot a lot more for the same money :)
Yep :D
It's september and 45 is still extremely scarce or just not available at local walmarts. Oh you can get 44mag, 38spl, 25 auto, but no 45.
9mm and 40sw is still stacked deep on shelves. 9mm went down from 9.97 to 9.47 a box of federal.
45acp is dead.
"Serving strong through out a century, called to duty and never failing those who were in need. God bless the 45acp."
RIP 1904-2010
It's september and 45 is still extremely scarce or just not available at local walmarts. Oh you can get 44mag, 38spl, 25 auto, but no 45.
9mm and 40sw is still stacked deep on shelves. 9mm went down from 9.97 to 9.47 a box of federal.
In the last few months we've gone from this situation to almost no 9mm and plenty of .45. The last WWB (50 rounds) boxes I saw at WM were $13.47!!!
It's september and 45 is still extremely scarce or just not available at local walmarts. Oh you can get 44mag, 38spl, 25 auto, but no 45.
You must be going to the same wamart as me just i get there first:rolleyes: Picked up another 200rnds of fed and 100rnds of wwb, cleaned them out. :lol:
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Uglyguns
You must be going to the same wamart as me just i get there first:rolleyes: Picked up another 200rnds of fed and 100rnds of wwb, cleaned them out. :lol:
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Uglyguns
maybe, maybe not.
All I know is that 45acp is only shipped to certain wal marts during each 2 weeks to a month and it doesn't last a day on the shelf. 9mm and 40sw can be had at any wal mart, any time.
I've been looking at internet prices too. 9 and 40 have dropped continuously this year. 45 has not.
Expect to pay about a 35cent a round average for 45acp
http://ammoseek.com/?gun=handgun&cal=48&type=&grains=0&mfg=&keywords=&sortby=cpr
40sw has dropped a good nickel or more per round and about a 27cent average, but vendors are selling lower than that.
http://ammoseek.com/?from=resultspage&gun=handgun&cal=29&type=&grains=0&mfg=&keywords=&sortby=cpr&.submit=Search
9mm is king at 20 cents a round AND LOWER.
http://ammoseek.com/?from=resultspage&gun=handgun&cal=82&type=&grains=0&mfg=&keywords=&sortby=cpr&.submit=Search
Bottom line? 45acp is the first of the three major pistol rounds to be affected by economical stress and material shortages, and the last one to recover.
I saw bulk .38Sp, .40 and 9mm at the last gun show, but not a lot of non-premium .45. They had some, but it was rude expensive. I picked up a case of Blazer 9mm for $157, though.
I bought some .45acp at my local gunstore last week. $22.50 a box.
All I know is that 45acp is only shipped to certain wal marts during each 2 weeks to a month and it doesn't last a day on the shelf. 9mm and 40sw can be had at any wal mart, any time.
Locally, all the stores around here get it every week, either monday or tuesday. By thursday they are out and the cycle repeats. If you show up monday or tuesday depending on shipment you get 6 boxes, bring a wife and get 12. While the price and amounts of rounds they get may very, I never really wanted for it, Ever. Sure sometimes there has been less then I wanted, but I have always had some. Lately, we have had more then usual and I can come in and get a few boxes of Fed and wwb whenever. If you search around, you probably have a few walmarts around, although you may have to travel. At times I have driven 40min to get a few boxes, I guess it never really bothered me. I only shoot .45 so what choice do I have. :confused:
I've been looking at internet prices too. 9 and 40 have dropped continuously this year. 45 has not.
Ammoseek has cci blazer for 14ish a box from two different sites after shipping your not too bad off. Luckygunner and GA and a few other site have always had pretty cheap .45 (bulk). Sometimes you may have to wait a week or two for it though. I don't think, at least lately, prices or quantity have been bad. When our president was first elected it was a bit hairy, but now I think things are trending in a better direction. Ammo is not as hard to find, exotic ammo aside, and prices are better then before YYMMV. It's going to get better, Change the change 2012 :rolleyes::p
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GermanSynergy
09-14-10, 02:43
I've got plenty of it. Of course, I never shoot any! :cool:
I went to Dick's the other day and saw some 250 round UMC mega packs and 2 individual boxes of American Eagle. I had to resist the overwelming urge to buy it all. I felt like a starved fat kid being cut loose at a KFC. I don't have that kind of money though so I took a mega pack and a box of Fed. 300 rounds even. While they didn't have as much of it as they had 9mm and .40, they did have more .45 than I have seen in a while in one place, so it looks like it might slowly be coming out of hibernation around here.
WM's in Charlotte have Federal 50rd boxes for $15 readily available
I have 500 rounds of Speer Lawman 230 FMJ on it's way. Should be here in the next couple of days. When UPS arrives. Off too the range for the weekend.
I sure am getting tired of the cry baby's who can't find ammo of such & such caliber!!
Reloading is the answer, I keep on shooting in all the guns I own and will keep shooting no matter what the government does or doesn't do.
They tried to ban ammo through the EPA! I can cast my own lead bullets, so they can kiss my butt and some laws or regulations are meant to be ignored!!
Crap it took wally world 6+ months too start selling 45 again. Heck a few that I go too have none. I have mine. UPS finally got here.
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