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Safetyhit
03-04-10, 14:32
How can 5-11 years be just punishment for conspiracy to murder approx 150 US service personnel? And a whopping 12 years for the ringleaders...WTF? Where is the deterrent?

What are they thinking?


German court convicts bomb plotters


The four men had admitted planning bomb attacks on US targets in Germany [AFP]

Four men who confessed to planning bomb attacks on US targets in Germany have been convicted by a court in Duesseldorf of conspiracy to murder and of belonging to a foreign terrorist group.

The men were sentenced on Thursday to between five and 12 years in jail for the plot which they were planning when they were arrested in September 2007.

The three Germans and one Turk were to use three car bombs, each with 250kg of explosives, in the attacks.

The bomb explosions were to coincide with a vote in parliament on whether Germany should extend its military presence in Afghanistan in an attempt to influence public opinion against the country's mission there.

'Monstrous bloodbath'

The men were known as the "Sauerland group" after the area of western Germany where they were caught.

Police had been watching their rented holiday cottage for several months before swooping in to make the arrests.

Judge Ottmar Breidling, speaking at the conclusion of the 10-month trial, said the men aimed to kill at least 150 US soldiers stationed in Germany.

"You were planning a monstrous bloodbath that would have killed an unfathomable number of people," Breidling said.

"Never before had there been a terror attack of that dimension in Germany.

"You were blinded by a strange, hate-filled notion of jihad and you turned yourselves into angels of death in the name of Islam."

Breidling sentenced Fritz Gelowicz, the group's ringleader, to 12 years in jail.

He also handed Daniel Schneider a 12-year sentence because he fired at a police officer during an escape attempt.

Both men were converts to Islam.

The court also sentenced Adem Yilmaz, a Turkish citizen, to 11 years and Atilla Selek, a German citizen of Turkish origin, to five years.

'Extraordinary' insight

The four men, who were members of the radical Islamic Jihad Union, had identified discos and airports, as well as the US Ramstein air base, as possible targets.

Prosecutors had sought terms of between five and a half to 13 years.

Breidling said their confessions and their co-operation with prosecutors had reduced their prison sentences.

"The confessions have provided an extraordinary glimpse into the structures of Islamic terrorism," the judge said.

The CIA helped to foil the plot after months of close co-operation with German authorities, German media reported.

About 600 German investigators had started monitoring the group in early 2007, before arresting them on September 4 that year.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/03/20103412615232918.html

GermanSynergy
03-04-10, 14:39
Those are relatively harsh sentences by German standards.

armakraut
03-04-10, 14:49
What are they thinking?

About their civil service pensions. It's a job, they get paid either way.

bkb0000
03-04-10, 14:58
http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS364US364&sourceid=chrome&q=Sauerland%20group&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi


what a jolly little bunch.. all smiles and fun

Safetyhit
03-04-10, 15:00
Those are relatively harsh sentences by German standards.

Maybe, but I thought they were beginning to wake up along with the rest of Europe and start dealing with their immenent migrant implosion. Guess it was just a little tossing and turning.

Nathan_Bell
03-04-10, 16:06
Maybe, but I thought they were beginning to wake up along with the rest of Europe and start dealing with their immenent migrant implosion. Guess it was just a little tossing and turning.

They won't wake up until it is too late for resolution to be anything but bloody, they will then blame Boooosh!(TM) for their problems.

Hunter Rose
03-04-10, 16:16
Bash the Germans/Europeans if you want, but it's not like the US justice system is any better. We routinely sentence rapists/murderers/child molesters to less then a decade of incarceration when they have actually gone through with the crime and killed someone.

We need to "wake up" just as much as the Europeans.

mr_smiles
03-04-10, 16:21
In most European countries murder carries 10-20 years.