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sparky241
03-09-10, 18:29
Madoff vs. Social Security



Why did Bernie Madoff go to prison? To make it simple, he talked people into investing with him. Trouble was, he didn't invest their money. As time rolled on he simply took the money from the new investors to pay off the old investors. Finally there were too many old investors and not enough money from new investors coming in to keep the payments going. Next thing you know Madoff is one of the most hated men in America and he is off to jail.



Some of you know this, but not enough of you. Madoff did to his investors what the government has been doing to us for over 60 years with Social Security. There is no meaningful difference between the two schemes except that one was operated by a private individual who is now in jail, and the other is operated by politicians who enjoy perks, privileges and status in spite of their actions.



Do you need a side-by-side comparison here? Well here's a nifty little chart.

BERNIE MADOFF


SOCIAL SECURITY

Takes money from investors with the promise that the money will be invested and made available to them later


Takes money from wage earners with the promise that the money will be invested in a "Trust Fund" and made available later.

Instead of investing the money Madoff spends it on nice homes in the Hamptons and yachts.


Instead of depositing money in a Trust Fund the politicians use it for general spending and vote buying.

When the time comes to pay the investors back Madoff simply uses some of the new funds from newer investors to pay back the older investors.


When benefits for older investors become due the politicians pay them with money taken from younger and newer wage earners to pay the geezers.

When Madoff's scheme is discovered all hell breaks loose. New investors won't give him any more cash.


When Social Security runs out of money they simply force the taxpayers to send them some more.

Bernie Madoff is in jail.


Politicians remain in Washington .



WHY IS IT THAT PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PENSIONS ARE GUARANTEED, BUT SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS NOT PROTECTED AND NOT GUARANTEED???

why does one go to jail but the serial rapists in washington dont?

Belmont31R
03-09-10, 18:58
The government doesn't like competition, and has the supposed "rule of law" behind it.

Left Sig
03-09-10, 19:12
Social Security was never set up as an investment plan with a return on the investment. It has always been a pay as you go system, and never been anything even approaching the legal or even layman's definition of a trust fund. That was just FDR's propaganda to get people to accept it.

The fix is relatively easy. They will just raise the tax a point or two for current payers and make us wait longer until we get benefits. That's what they did 25 years ago (increased the tax) and that's what they will do again.

They really need to index the age of benefits eligibility to the average lifespan. 65 is way to young now, with people regularly living 20 or more years into retirement. It would also help if excess receipts did not to to the general treasury fund, but that would take an act of Congress that is addicted to spending.

chadbag
03-09-10, 20:45
No SS was not sold as an investment.

But it is still a Ponzi scheme.

sparky241
03-09-10, 20:54
No SS was not sold as an investment.

But it is still a Ponzi scheme.
of course it is, now show me the law that says i have to participate in it. Look up Aaron Russo freedom to fascism.