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sparky241
03-09-10, 18:32
someone sent this to me and thought i would share it

Grandpa's Message to Granddaughter

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John G. Is 63 years old and owns a small business. He's a life-long Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his way, John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.
John has a granddaughter. Ashley is a recent college grad. She drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and loves to go out to nightclubs and restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard for Barack Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all other Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on how the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is taking over.
Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse.. Like she has done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for some financial help.


Here is his reply:


Sweetheart, I received your request for assistance.


Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I 'm sympathetic to your financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the election of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a bold new economic plan of our own..."The Ashley Economic Empowerment Plan." Let me explain.
Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning tax payers. We have lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the fancier things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc.. We have worked hard and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed. Your president is raising our personal and business taxes significantly. He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people. Do you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must cut back on many business and personal expenses..
You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for more than 23 years? The one who always gave you candy when you came over to visit? I had to let her go last week. I can't afford to pay her salary and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having employees. Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and will lose even more income to the Wal-Mart.
I'm also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no longer be working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this morning. He already knows about it and he's upset because he will have to give up skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar bears.
That's just the business side of things. Some personal economic effects of Obama's new taxation policies include none other than you You know very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, clothing, gifts, etc., etc. But by your vote, you have chosen to help others -- not at your expense -- but at our expense.
If you need money now sweetheart, I recommend you call 202-456-1111. That is the direct phone number for the White House.. You can also contact the White House here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/ ;.
You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You said Mr. Obama is going to be the People's President, and is going to help every American live a better life. Based on everything you've told me, along with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I'm sure Mr. Obama will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank account. Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago..

Perhaps you can now understand what I've been saying all my life: those who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation as a whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for themselves. What Obama supporters don't seem to realize is all of the money he is redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families.
Remember how you told me, "Only the richest of the rich will be aff ected"? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. On paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far from it.
As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to carry more of the burden so all of America can prosper.. You understand what that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people results in them having less money; less money for everything, including granddaughters.
I'm sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry.. The free lunches are over.. I have no money to give you now. So, congratulations on your choice for "change." For future reference, I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and cash you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 (or 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly been the gift of our hearts.
Remember, we love you dearly....but from now on you'll need to call the number mentioned above. Your "Savior" has the money we would have given to you. Just try and get it from him.
Good luck, sweetheart.
Love, Grandpa

lethal dose
03-09-10, 19:17
I love it.

rickrock305
03-09-10, 19:22
what taxes have gone up?

ukhayes
03-09-10, 19:59
The most significant tax increase has been associated with transportation. It is the reason that almost eveything moving by rail or truck has increased. If one looks, they will notice the price increases at grocery and department stores. Or the new "same price-smaller quantity" scheme.

rickrock305
03-09-10, 20:19
could you be more specific?

Macx
03-09-10, 20:29
Coffee, Folgers. Or did you want less specific?

Belmont31R
03-09-10, 20:31
what taxes have gone up?




Tobacco is an easy one.

chadbag
03-09-10, 20:37
what taxes have gone up?

He has not had time to make them go up yet. It is coming.

The most significant coming up real soon now I believe is the letting lapse the so-called Bush Tax Cuts which will affect a LOT of people. We'll have to see how they handle it.

Plus the threats of ObamaCare and Cap and Trade have business people cutting back and saving.

sparky241
03-09-10, 20:44
could you be more specific?

rice for one. tomatoes for 2nd

kwelz
03-09-10, 20:46
could you be more specific?

Just a few examples.
http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?blog_id=1&tag=shrink%20ray&limit=20

Icculus
03-09-10, 21:51
rice for one. tomatoes for 2nd

I'm not taking sides in this thread although I find the story funny. You can't count tomatoes though. That's more the weather in Fla and the southeast than tax policy;)

Belmont31R
03-09-10, 21:56
He has not had time to make them go up yet. It is coming.

The most significant coming up real soon now I believe is the letting lapse the so-called Bush Tax Cuts which will affect a LOT of people. We'll have to see how they handle it.

Plus the threats of ObamaCare and Cap and Trade have business people cutting back and saving.






But the Obamabots will say he is not raising taxes. To Obama letting tax cuts expire is not a tax raise because he didn't sign a tax raise into law.



Obamacare is trillions of new taxes and redirected tax dollars.



Cap and Tax will put tons of businesses out of business. No way people can afford that crap.

rickrock305
03-09-10, 22:30
Coffee, Folgers. Or did you want less specific?


rice for one. tomatoes for 2nd


Just a few examples.
http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?blog_id=1&tag=shrink%20ray&limit=20


those are not examples of taxes. i'm talking specific examples of tax increases.

rickrock305
03-09-10, 22:34
He has not had time to make them go up yet. It is coming.

Exactly what i thought, there have been no new taxes (other than cigarettes which i am all for). So the entire premise of the "letter" is wrong.

He has had plenty of time though. He's been in office for over a year.



The most significant coming up real soon now I believe is the letting lapse the so-called Bush Tax Cuts which will affect a LOT of people. We'll have to see how they handle it.

Yea, we'll see.



Plus the threats of ObamaCare and Cap and Trade have business people cutting back and saving.


Sure its not the huge recession and crap economy that has people cutting back?

chadbag
03-09-10, 23:07
Exactly what i thought, there have been no new taxes (other than cigarettes which i am all for). So the entire premise of the "letter" is wrong.

He has had plenty of time though. He's been in office for over a year.


in case you have not noticed, he has been busy.

" Since being elected, Obama has raised cigarette taxes and has advocated raising healthcare taxes, energy and small business taxes, in addition to corporate taxes. What’s more, economic advisers like Larry Summers seem eager to get rid of all the Bush tax cuts, not just those on so-called wealthy Americans."

Taken from: http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/09/30/obamas-not-so-secret-plan-to-raise-taxes/

He wants to and will raise taxes. He has not had the time with everything else he has been doing and the taxes are there in the healthcare and carbon trading schemes in addition to elsewhere.




Yea, we'll see.




Sure its not the huge recession and crap economy that has people cutting back?

Business people are not hiring and have cut back more so than is normal at this point in a recovery because they fear the future and the promised new taxes and the future expense of having employees with healthcare requirements, etc. This is all over the country the talk of small business people. The uncertainty of the future under Obama is curtailing hiring and other business right now. There is no doubt about that.