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Solicitation Number:
EDOOIG-10-000004 Notice Type:
Combined Synopsis/Solicitation Synopsis:
Added: Mar 08, 2010 10:39 am
The U.S. Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven (27) REMINGTON BRAND MODEL 870 POLICE 12/14P MOD GRWC XS4 KXCS SF. RAMAC #24587 GAUGE: 12 BARREL: 14" - PARKERIZED CHOKE: MODIFIED SIGHTS: GHOST RING REAR WILSON COMBAT; FRONT - XS CONTOUR BEAD SIGHT STOCK: KNOXX REDUCE RECOIL ADJUSTABLE STOCK FORE-END: SPEEDFEED SPORT-SOLID - 14" LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.
The required date of delivery is March 22, 2010.
Interested sources must submit detailed technical capabilities and any other information that demonstrates their ability to meet the requirements above, no later than March 12, 2010 at 12 PM, E.S.T. Any quotes must be submitted electronically to the attention of Holly.Le@ed.gov, Contract Specialist (Contract Operations Group), with a concurrent copy to Sherese.Lewis@ed.gov, Contracting Officer (Contract Operations Group).
The following clauses are applicable to this requirement:
52-212-1 Instruction to Offerors - Commercial Items
52.212-2 Evaluation - Commercial Items
52.212-3 Offeror Representations and Certifications - Commercial Items
52.212-4 Contract Terms and Conditions - Commercial Items
52.212-5 Contract Terms and Conditions Required Implementing Statutes or Executive Orders - Commercial Items
In accordance with 52.212-2, the fill-in applicable to this requirement is below:
52.212-2 Evaluation-Commercial Items.
As prescribed in 12.301(c), the Contracting Officer may insert a provision substantially as follows:
Evaluation-Commercial Items (Jan 1999)
(a) The Government will award a contract resulting from this solicitation to the responsible offeror whose offer conforming to the solicitation will be most advantageous to the Government, price and other factors considered. The following factors shall be used to evaluate offers:
(i) Technical Capability
(ii) Price
In accordance with 52.212-5, the following clauses are applicable to this requirement:
52.225-1 Buy American Act - Supplies (February 2009)
52.232-33, Payment by Electronic Funds Transfer-Central
New equipment only; no remanufactured products. No partial shipments
Offer must be good for 30 calendar days after submission.
Offerors must have current Central Contractor Registration (CCR) at the time offer is submitted. Information can be found at www.ccr.gov.
This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulation Part 12, Acquisition of Commercial Items. The Government will award a commercial item purchase order to the offeror with the most advantageous offer to the government. All offerors must submit their best price and delivery capabilities.
Place of Delivery:
U.S. Department of Education
Office of Inspector General
c/o: Gary Pawlak, Special Agent
500 West Madison Street - Suite 1414
Chicago, IL 60661
Contracting Office Address:
550 12th Street, SW, 7th Floor
Washington, District of Columbia 20202
Primary Point of Contact.:
Holly Le,
Contract Specialist
Holly.Le@ed.gov
Phone: 202-245-6070
Fax: 202-245-6297Secondary Point of Contact:
Sherese Perrin Lewis,
Contracting Officer
Sherese.Lewis@ed.gov
Phone: 202-245-6235
Fax: 202-245-6296
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=cb68cf9f3fa2fe18a83d1c3dee0039b2&tab=core&_cview=0
NCPatrolAR
03-10-10, 10:05
and the point is?
woodandsteel
03-10-10, 10:20
What is the reason for this purchase?
Does the Dept. of Ed. have a security force?
No kidding...............the dept of ED and the next question is WHY?
1811tactikool
03-10-10, 11:03
Hey guys, pretty much every department in the federal government has an OIG or criminal investigation unit. They will investigate employees, contract fraud, threats against they agency, etc. They are 1811 Special Agents in most cases, just like FBI. They just have a narrower focus. They are authorized to carry weapons, make arrests, execute warrants, conduct investigations and so on.
Obviously depending on the warrant, long guns are desired for outside cover, etc. I would certainly prefer an ar15, but a Remington 870 will get the job done.
woodandsteel
03-10-10, 11:23
Hey guys, pretty much every department in the federal government has an OIG or criminal investigation unit. They will investigate employees, contract fraud, threats against they agency, etc. They are 1811 Special Agents in most cases, just like FBI. They just have a narrower focus. They are authorized to carry weapons, make arrests, execute warrants, conduct investigations and so on.
Obviously depending on the warrant, long guns are desired for outside cover, etc. I would certainly prefer an ar15, but a Remington 870 will get the job done.
That's what I was wondering. Thank you.
It would be funny to see them in their raid jackets sporting an 870. What a photo shop opportunity that would be.
Hey guys, pretty much every department in the federal government has an OIG or criminal investigation unit. They will investigate employees, contract fraud, threats against they agency, etc. They are 1811 Special Agents in most cases, just like FBI. They just have a narrower focus. They are authorized to carry weapons, make arrests, execute warrants, conduct investigations and so on.
Obviously depending on the warrant, long guns are desired for outside cover, etc. I would certainly prefer an ar15, but a Remington 870 will get the job done.
MY wife is a teacher and she once said she would be ok with M4's. No joke she should be issued a side arm in her school.
ForTehNguyen
03-10-10, 12:27
kids are out of line and need to be put back in line these days :p
lethal dose
03-10-10, 13:00
It's for the children.
Lol! Hey... maybe marksmanship is going to be a new course of curriculum taught in public school! No joke- we had archery in gym class my senior year.
Same 14" 870s that numerous other fed LE agencies have procured. They're nice guns that handle well, about the same OAL as a 16" barrel carbine.
There are umpteen 1811 billets at obscure government agencies, as well as armed security personnel for their facilities. Some even have their own SWAT or high-risk teams.
Let them buy what they need.
FlyAndFight
03-10-10, 14:56
Just the sound of the shotgun being racked will keep the students in line... ;)
Just addin' some more to the swarms of officers sent hither to harass our people and eat out our substance.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Submariner
03-10-10, 19:12
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of education in the first place, much less arming its employees?
I voted for Ronald Raygun because, among other things, he was going to disestablish the Department of Education.
Watch what they do instead of listening to what they say...
Belmont31R
03-10-10, 19:17
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of education in the first place, much less arming its employees?
I voted for Ronald Raygun because, among other things, he was going to disestablish the Department of Education.
Watch what they do instead of listening to what they say...
Exactly. Education is a state issue so there is NO NEED for a federal education dept.
Its only real purpose is further injecting the fed into places where it ought naught to be.
The High School here has it's own fully armed police department.
What was the name of that town in Russia? Breslan or something like that? Although I'll admit that I doubt that the Dept of E. is planning on putting together there own reaction force.
This reminds me of the FBI 20mm thread. I doubt that some of this stuff is quite as sinister as some people try to make seem. It's not so much what they (.gov ) got , it's more about who they plan to point it at.
Alpha Sierra
03-11-10, 16:01
and the point is?
The point is why the **** does the department of education need shotguns and an inspector general?
An even better point is why does such a government agency still exists?
They need an IG for the same reasons that Army units or the VA need IG's.
The 870's. I dunno. I'll leave that to somebody else.
Maybe I don't Need an 870 , either -- but mine is not for sale.
:cool:
Bulldog1967
03-11-10, 22:38
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of education in the first place, much less arming its employees?
I voted for Ronald Raygun because, among other things, he was going to disestablish the Department of Education.
Watch what they do instead of listening to what they say...
Ayup.
Alpha Sierra
03-12-10, 05:54
They need an IG for the same reasons that Army units or the VA need IG's.
I can sort of give the military a pass on it, since they are by definition a unique organization.
But federal bureaucracies? I don't think so. The FBI can police and investigate them all.
John_Wayne777
03-12-10, 07:15
The point is why the **** does the department of education need shotguns and an inspector general?
Because EVERY federal agency has an OIG that is in charge of ensuring contracting regulations are followed, rules on expenditures are followed...generally trying to eliminate fraud and abuse. Government employees are human and as such are capable of stealing from the agency or of using their position to personally enrich themselves or friends, or of simply being inexcusably incompetent. That's what OIG's offices are supposed to deal with. They serve an internal accountability function. Some positions are armed, but most are accountants who pour over inventory reports and expenditures.
I would much rather have the FBI spend their time dealing with violent criminal gangs and terrorists than trying to track down Bob's laptop.
1811tactikool
03-13-10, 09:58
I can sort of give the military a pass on it, since they are by definition a unique organization.
But federal bureaucracies? I don't think so. The FBI can police and investigate them all.
Because FBI covers most of Title 18 USC, there is an MOU between FBI and most OIGs allowing them to investigate and prosecute criminal violations with a nexus to their agency.
Not all though. For example TIGTA has some statury authority over Title 26 that FBI, by FEDERAL LAW, cannot have. Like IRS-CI (not an OIG, but a Criminal Enforcement division of IRS) has jurisdiction over most of Title 26, which FBI is prohibited by federal law to investigate.
The reality is that many of the crimes these OIGs investigate are simply not of interest to FBI. Rest assured though, that even with the MOU in place, if there is a case big enough (read publicity) involving one of these OIGs, FBI will immediately step in. Just the way they work.:rolleyes:
My wife teaches high school and we last night went to a wine bar with some for her coworkers and their spouces. Most of the teachers thougth the guns could be of use.
Submariner
03-13-10, 14:39
I would much rather have the FBI spend their time dealing with violent criminal gangs and terrorists than trying to track down Bob's laptop.
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of justice in the first place, a national police force in the the second place, much less arming its employees?
While I agree with the posts about why is there even a Dept of Education, since it exists, I would be much more impressed if they were procuring skeet or trap or clays guns and developing a national standard for shotgun sports to be taught in all HS :)
Alpha Sierra
03-13-10, 16:45
Because FBI covers most of Title 18 USC, there is an MOU between FBI and most OIGs allowing them to investigate and prosecute criminal violations with a nexus to their agency.
Not all though. For example TIGTA has some statury authority over Title 26 that FBI, by FEDERAL LAW, cannot have. Like IRS-CI (not an OIG, but a Criminal Enforcement division of IRS) has jurisdiction over most of Title 26, which FBI is prohibited by federal law to investigate.
The reality is that many of the crimes these OIGs investigate are simply not of interest to FBI. Rest assured though, that even with the MOU in place, if there is a case big enough (read publicity) involving one of these OIGs, FBI will immediately step in. Just the way they work.:rolleyes:
You're telling me how it is. I am telling you how it should be.
Don't worry. Before long this country will be so broke we will be rid of 90% of federal bureaucrats, along with their cops.
John_Wayne777
03-13-10, 20:34
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of justice in the first place, a national police force in the the second place, much less arming its employees?
Dude...armed federal law enforcement has existed since the founding of the nation.
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of justice in the first place, a national police force in the the second place, much less arming its employees?
What the **** are you smoking?
There are umpteen 1811 billets at obscure government agencies, as well as armed security personnel for their facilities. Some even have their own SWAT or high-risk teams.
Let them buy what they need.
Yes, the Police State is growing up fine and strong. Pay no attention to the gorilla in the bathroom. Yet.
And which enumerated power of the Constitution provides the authority for the department of education in the first place, much less arming its employees?
I voted for Ronald Raygun because, among other things, he was going to disestablish the Department of Education.
Watch what they do instead of listening to what they say...
Your views are in the minority in this nation today. You, like me and a few others, are a philosophical dinosaur, sir. The Founding Fathers, if they were around today, would be ridiculed, arrested, tortured and put to death. And the numbers that would cheer would appall God and Heaven.
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