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I've been getting a fever lately and the only cure is more 9mm. I'm a notorious .45acp guy amongst my friends but have been changing my ways for a more cheaper way of shooting. So I've started getting 9mms together. So far I got a Glock 17 Gen 4, HK P30L, and Sig Sauer P226 E2. Saving some more money up to get a Smith & Wesson M&P 9 full size. Is there any other guns I should really consider adding to my stable? Hopefully I'll be conducting a 2k test on these guns as well as making some sort of spread sheet comparable to Tactical Yellow Visor. Seeing how there are so many "which 9mm should I get?" threads.
Let me add that the pistols in my test are going to be full sized guns, both of metal and polymer frames. Ideally with something that has a rail for a light.
You've put some good ones on your list.
I've been though just about all of them, and settled on SIG's for myself. I carry an excellent condition older all Kraut stamped slide P226 every day, and also keep a later P226 Tactical.
I have wookie paws though, and the older SIG's fit my hand perfectly. I have yet to try the E2's.
The P30 is the Mercedes of 9mm handguns.....beautifully built and engineered.
I was never a really big fan of Sig because of the size of the gun. But after handling the E2 guns at SHOT, I was in love. The SRT trigger is amazing as well. If you got Wookie paws then I must have ewok paws (they compliment my T-rex arms), so the E2 guns fit great in my hands.
I agree the P30's are great, so much that I have a P30, P30L, and a P30 in .40cal inbound as well. The interchangeable back strap and side panels make fitting this gun to your hand a breeze.
I finally shot a M&P9 last week and I see what the buzz is all about! Great accuracy and very very soft shooting. I look forward to getting one to shoot and test.
citizensoldier16
04-05-10, 21:13
Beretta 92fs! :D
gtmtnbiker98
04-05-10, 21:19
I have also joined the 9mm bandwagon:
P30(2)
P30L (2)
P2000 SK
All in 9mm. I am all HK, now. I love my .40s and .45s, but at today's prices, the 9s get the nod for range and competition. Now that it's warmer, the SK is my EDC, now.
:( I was hoping no one would suggest the 92FS haha. I despise that gun, but I do see the warrant for the test since it is the primary side arm of the Military.
I love my .40s and .45s, but at today's prices, the 9s get the nod for range and competition.
I wholeheartedly agree.
For testing and evaluation purposes what about the XD9 or the FNP9?
I knew I was forgetting something! Thanks, whats the popularity of the XD/XDM and the FNP? I'd really like to spend the bulk of my testing/research/fun on the more popular firearms.
HK P9S. I'm starting to fall in love with mine all over again.
I knew I was forgetting something! Thanks, whats the popularity of the XD/XDM and the FNP? I'd really like to spend the bulk of my testing/research/fun on the more popular firearms.
I'm working on getting a FN FNX-9 (updated FNP) to try out. I don't know how popluar they are but I don't think many people have shot them let alone even know about them.
I'm working on getting a FN FNX-9 (updated FNP) to try out. I don't know how popluar they are but I don't think many people have shot them let alone even know about them.
I just looked at the FN site and saw it. I was only aware of the FNP series and the new FNP 45 Tactical (uber cool). Would it be a safe comparison of the FNP-FNX to the XD-XDM series? Physically I see the new safety lever, cocking serrations, grip pattern, and mag release. Anything else different?
lethal dose
04-05-10, 22:22
1) glock 19
2) sig p226
3) hk p30
4) beretta 92fs
5) cz75
My top 5 in order from best to worst. All decocker models with no safety.
The "SIMP" is strong with this one.
Hmmmm, I just traded strait across my used HK45 for a NIB P30. I miss the 45 ACP but damn its nice to buy cheap ammo now...
1) glock 19
2) sig p226
3) hk p30
4) beretta 92fs
5) cz75
My top 5 in order from best to worst. All decocker models with no safety.
I've never fired a CZ but I find a lot of loyal fans and enthusiasts. I like the idea of no safety levers...
lethal dose
04-05-10, 22:32
If you can score an older cz75 in a decocker model, don't hesitate.
crazymoose
04-05-10, 23:40
I've spent a lot more than I care to remember buying and shooting just about all of the major wondernines out there. In 9mm, I find the Glock and a decently-made 9mm 1911 (use good mags!) to be the kings of the hill. CZs and SIGs get honorable mention.
I'm working on getting a FN FNX-9 (updated FNP) to try out. I don't know how popluar they are but I don't think many people have shot them let alone even know about them.
The only bad thing I've heard was that a user reported issues around the 1500 mark. But a) that was a sample size of 1 b) no other conditions were given ie. didnt clean after range trips etc.
I've got limited trigger time on these and the only way I could describe shooting it would be to say that it was like shooting a hybrid of a P226 and an M&P9. It had a bore axis similar to the sig but sight radius similar to the m&p. Controls and modularity were similar to the m&p but has a de-cocker similar to the sig and the list goes on.
I'd be much more inclined to getting one if they ever released a striker fired version.
You've got some superb choices already. The only thng I'd throw out for your consideration would possibly be a current FN/Browning Hi-Power, if you prefer a single-action trigger. Unfortunately, as has been discussed in some detail here, current production Hi-Powers are both relatively low production (i.e., scarce) and spendy, even when discounted (i.e., in HK territory price-wise).
Best, Jon
HK P9S. I'm starting to fall in love with mine all over again.
Man, I've had 4 of those over the years, all Combat models, two in 9mm, two in .45 ACP.
Typically Tuetonically over engineered, but man are they cool.
:cool:
The only bad thing I've heard was that a user reported issues around the 1500 mark. But a) that was a sample size of 1 b) no other conditions were given ie. didnt clean after range trips etc.
I've got limited trigger time on these and the only way I could describe shooting it would be to say that it was like shooting a hybrid of a P226 and an M&P9. It had a bore axis similar to the sig but sight radius similar to the m&p. Controls and modularity were similar to the m&p but has a de-cocker similar to the sig and the list goes on.
I'd be much more inclined to getting one if they ever released a striker fired version.
Thanks bro! Maybe I'll spend the money on ammo instead of taking a chance.
Luckystiff
04-06-10, 11:16
I love my H&K P7M8. :D
I'm planning on picking up a SIG 239 in 9mm for CCW during summer/hotter months soon.
I completely understand what you're saying about the price difference in ammunition between 9mm and .45, feeding my .45 at the range has started to get astronomical.
Dragon Slayer
04-06-10, 16:38
I am a 45 guy also and my favorite gun as I have indicated before is a Glock 36/30 SF Hybrid but as others have said training with 45 ammo is becoming astronomical so I switched to carrying and training with my second most favorite gun the Glock 26 and for home defense the Glock 19 with Glock 17 mags.
BTW so I do not get tempted I sold all my guns in 40 caliber and the last one for sale a Glock 23 is in the Equipment sale exchange sub forum.
KalashniKEV
04-06-10, 16:41
DEFINITELY CZ-75...
DEFINITELY CZ-75...
Yeah OP, you should at least fire a CZ variant and see if you like it. I let a guy at the range shoot my CZ75 compact last weekend and he fell in love (he already owned a glock and HK). He said the next gun he buys will be a CZ. If they're knocked for anything it's weak springs, but that can be changed on the cheap. Triggers aren't great, but unless you're shooting in competitions, I don't think it'll bother you. CZ's sure feel good in your hand and I don't think anyone will argue with that.
That's a superb collection of nines, and an M&P would be my next choice.
RogerinTPA
04-06-10, 22:14
M&P9
M&P9c
P30
G17
G19
buckshot1220
04-06-10, 22:26
OP- You might want to try and LEM trigger conversion on one of the those P30's.
Why does everyone discard Rugers? My P95 is reliable and I am pretty accurate with it. Made in U.S. is a plus for me.
Magic_Salad0892
04-07-10, 08:55
Glock 17, Glock 19, H&K USP 9x19, H&K USP Compact 9x19.
Glock will always be my favorite.
H&K will always be the runner up.
jasonhgross
04-07-10, 09:33
If anything, I think you may have too many. I would go this route:
Glock 19
Glock 26
If glock 26 is too thick for concealed carry, then:
two glock 19's
Kahr PM9
Glock 19
HK P30
M&P
Sigs are no longer worth their premium price due to lower quality in the last few years.
decodeddiesel
04-07-10, 15:33
I guess I am just missing the point of this thread. :confused:
kaltesherz
04-07-10, 17:17
Glock 19 and an HK P7 PSP since you've already got a SIG 226.
I've had a CZ75 and HiPower before and don't miss them at all.
M9's are over sized and prone to have durability issues, at least our issue ones.
I've got a full size Kimber that I've had perfected by Miller Custom, yet because I can't justify shooting her anymore. I bought her when it cost $7 a box of .45, now it's over $20
One day I'll get a P9S, that's one sexy 9mil
M&P 9mm PRO, the Pro is one of the nicest shooting guns on the planet. Long slide, Fiber optic sight, great trigger. Its a great value with that considered. About 600 clams.
The FNP 9mm is pretty sweet too. They now have it with decocker / safety which I like.
But if your adding to that list, go M&P Pro.
KalashniKEV
04-08-10, 21:44
I let a guy at the range shoot my CZ75 compact last weekend and he fell in love (he already owned a glock and HK). He said the next gun he buys will be a CZ.
I've owned Glock, Sig, HK, and others, but the CZ I find to be the most accurate and ergonomic out of them all. Mine has been extremely reliable too, and I'm waiting for it to mess up so I have an excuse to respring- it hasn't.
Another common knock is slide stop breakage... but as soon as I purchased an extra I know mine will never break now. ;)
Don't know if their QC has slipped since they got big(er) in the states, but I'm a big fan.
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