Form 1 help

[Voodoochild]

I am trying to finish up the paperwork for NFA items. I did the Trust route via Quicken will maker 2007 and need to know the specs of an 11.5" A. I am using the online Title II forms so just need a little help with the length of barrel and OAL. Hopefully I did the trust stuff properly but who knows. Thanks for your help.

ETA: Do I put a check in the individual or corp or other business entity. And do I put anything in the trade name box? Also what about this?

Name and Title of Authorized Official of Firm or Corporation.

[gunny]

I am trying to finish up the paperwork for NFA items. I did the Trust route via Quicken will maker 2007 and need to know the specs of an 11.5" A. I am using the online Title II forms so just need a little help with the length of barrel and OAL. Hopefully I did the trust stuff properly but who knows. Thanks for your help.

My squared away Class III dealer told me the OAL box is not necessary to complete & put the minimum barrel length you would want in that particular box since you can go any greater length later. So, I wrote 7in & nothing in the OAL box. This may stun many SBR owners, however, it worked for me & BATF&E approved my stamp in less than 30 days after they cashed my check. ;)

[Voodoochild]

Mucho thanks Gunny I appreciate it.

[Voodoochild]

Anyone have the answer to the additional questions from the first post?

[Robb Jensen]

Here's one of mine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/235daec1.jpg

[SuicideHz]

I see you used the correct form! ;)

[mnono]

I was approved using the online form:D

[SuicideHz]

yeah :D a-hole!

[GunLovinTexan]

so wait, i have a Colt 6921 and im consider getting a shorter upper on one of them. My ATF form says 14.5 inches, can i legally put a shorter upper on it then?

[Robb Jensen]

so wait, i have a Colt 6921 and im consider getting a shorter upper on one of them. My ATF form says 14.5 inches, can i legally put a shorter upper on it then?


Yes. Just send the NFA branch a letter with a copy of your Form 4 and tell them you'll be using whatever barrel you are thinking of using.

[GunLovinTexan]

So is that gonna cost me 200 bucks everytime??? and say if i put down 9.25 inch upper could i switch to a 14.5 inch upper temporaly? so i just cant go shorter right?

[gunny]

Yes, however....I list LOB as 7" on my Form 1's. I will prolly never go that short, but I can attach any barrel greater than 7" on my registered lowers as long as it's on one of those registered lowers w/out having to pay an additional $200 each time I swap uppers. Now if you have one registered lower with a short barrel & buy another short barrel...that upper has to go on that already registered lower. You cannot place it on another lower that's not registered. As long as any additional short uppers with a barrel length greater than the length you've registered goes on the same registered lower you're fine? Make sense? HTH.

[SuicideHz]

Technically you aren't supposed to list something like 7" just to cover your butt for all lengths. You are supposed to put the correct barrel length and the correct OAL and then write the ATF when changing lengths.

It was a big thing back on TOS awhile back to just put 7" bbl and whatever for OAL or put a range but that was all squashed and I believe people were getting forms back because the ATF wants to know what you are doing.

I don't blame them- you are doing the SBR for a reason- put those dimensions in. They make it simple enough to change at any time you wish so just follow their directions and wishes...

No Rob you don't have to pay each time. You pay one tax fee to register it- you can change it as you see fit once registered. Like I said, don't put one short size just to cover your butt. Be realistic. Fill out the form accordingly and at a later date, send them a letter. AFAIK, you just send them a letter like the form's instructions on back state. You don't have to wait for another approval for anything. Same thing with crossing state lines with it. I believe you need to send a letter for that as well...

I would like to see examples of letters such as these though.

[altav]

I don't know about you guys but, if I remember correctly, all of my Form 1's were approved with:

Barrel length: 5"-16"
OAL: 21"-32"
Caliber: Multi

Seems kind of silly having to send the ATF a letter everytime you decide to build a new upper.

YMMV.

[GunLovinTexan]

its silly that we even have to do this...it should be legal to do right off the back.

So im screwed then I have a 9.25 inch upper thats gonna show up at my house one of these days next week, guess im loaning it to my buddy that has a M16, till i get the paperwork approved atleast.

Thanx guys, first SBR's i guess i should have done more research.

Rob

[SuicideHz]

AltaV- when were yours approved?

Rob- what exactly are you doing? Is your 6921 a SBR now? If none af your lowers are SBRs, then you can't have the other short upper at home.

Where are you getting 9.25"?

[GunLovinTexan]

SuicideHZ the 6921 is a Factory Colt M4 so yes its SBR'd now and in my possession. But regeristerd for 14.5 inch barrel.

Im getting a POF 9.25 from HkSpecialist.net


Rob