Noveske Questions

[SeaSoldier]

Looking to buy my 1st AR carbine. Pretty much settled on a Noveske N4 light. Their website is unclear to me as to the different models. Not sure what a Recce is and it's advantages or disadvantages. VIS, is this a good thing? Low profile ? I'm looking for the best rifle from Noveske. I'm not a LEO, the rifle will be used for home defense, competition, and class's. I will most likely buy a Micro and a light and call it good. Any help will be appreciated. I know there are less expensive alternatives out there. However I would really rather just cry once and have a quality rifle from the start.

[lmmmmm]

You wont go wrong with any choice of Noveske.

Recce is a generic term used for certain types of rifles. Noveske uses that term on their 16" models.

VIS allows you to swap out barrels and is a one piece assembly. Nice to have if you want to build alternative setups.

I have a 14.5" N4 Light myself. I like that it is lighter and is a smaller profile than a standard 16".

As for low profile sights that's subjective. Lots of people like the fixed standard front sight as opposed to a fold down front sight.

[JSGlock34]

I own a Noveske VTAC rifle, and Noveske Recons, N4 Carbines and Recces have all appeared in my local shooting group.

Recce indicates Noveske's 16" hammer forged barrel with a mid-length gas system. There's a lot of discussion of the advantages of the mid-length system on this site - here's a good article (http://www.03designgroup.com/technotes/midlengths-for-leo) by USMC03 on it. The N4 Carbine uses a carbine length gas system with a 14.5" barrel and a permanently attached flash hider.

VIS indicates the use of VLTOR's VIS monolithic upper (http://www.vltor.com/vis.htm). Note that the VIS allows builders to use any AR15 barrel, but it does not allow the quick change of barrels.

Lo-pro indicates that the rifle uses flip up front and rear back up sights; no fixed front sight block. I prefer the lo-pros because I sometimes use magnified optics like the ACOG on my rifle.

I think the Noveske N4 Light Carbine or N4 Recce are both great choices. I'd also check the 'specials and overruns' page on Noveske's site. Right now it has a neat N4 MOE Carbine (http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=lc-moe&cat=81&page=1&search=&since=&status=) with MagPul furniture. However, I'm very pleased with my new Noveske VTAC Light Recce (http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=lr-vtac&cat=67&page=1&search=&since=&status=), which combines the Recce barrel with the lightweight Troy/VTAC rail freefloat handguard. The Troy/VTAC handguard is noticably lighter than the SWS rail used on other Noveske rifles.

You really can't go wrong with Noveske.



http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x131/JSGlock34/NoveskeVTAC1.jpg?t=1270692945

[orionz06]

I thought the Noveske Recce was a 16" midlength gas system.

[djegators]

I thought the Noveske Recce was a 16" midlength gas system.


Yes, it is.


To the OP, pick the Noveske that you like, and fits your budget, and you will undoubtedly love it.

On the high end, I really like the Recce Low-profile, which was the VLTOR MUR upper, low gas block, and folding sights. Makes a nice sleek, accurate rifle, well suited for optics.

Here is my low pro, next to my recce basic:


http://i40.tinypic.com/2qnux5g.jpg

[SeaSoldier]

Is the stainless Afgan worth the extra boot? I assume it will be more accurate but how much? How much heavier? I would love to keep the weight down.

[orionz06]

Is the stainless Afgan worth the extra boot? I assume it will be more accurate but how much? How much heavier? I would love to keep the weight down.

Will you need accuracy better than MOA? I almost made the mistake of thinking I needed a benchrest type AR to shoot IPSC targets. I would assume you would be content with the N4 barrel, which is MOA or better (.75 per most reports).

[djegators]

Noveske is known for their barrels, and I am sure the double chrome lined hammer forged barrels will suit your needs. But if you prefer the stainless, they are in the same price range basically.

[JSGlock34]

Will you need accuracy better than MOA? I almost made the mistake of thinking I needed a benchrest type AR to shoot IPSC targets. I would assume you would be content with the N4 barrel, which is MOA or better (.75 per most reports).

I agree - depends on what kind of shooting you are doing. I used the Recon rifle for a while - it was a tack driver, but the combination of the stainless barrel and SWS rail was heavy. Personally I think that in order to derive the maximum accuracy benefit of the Noveske stainless barrels and VLTOR MUR uppers, you need a magnified optic.

I moved to the VTAC Recce and couldn't be happier with the weight, balance and accuracy.

[SeaSoldier]

Thanks for all your help. My AR experience is limited to 20" M16's while a Jarhead. All the new and improved carbine length rifles are Greek to me. I'm thinking an N4 light low profile VIS will be everything I could possibly want or need. If I'm missing something please let me know.