SBR Optics - What would you do? [Archive]

Jon G23

04-30-07, 20:05

I'm trying to decide what to put on a 10.5 inch 556 for optics. I willhave Troy flipup sights also.

I want to be able to hit coyote's (if they present themselves) out to 200+/-. I'd also like to be able to do some bench rest shooting at 100 yards and try to get some little groups. I'd also like to use it for home defense, but from what I have read... it might be best to go with just open sights for that. Honestly... most of my shooting will be for fun and plinking at rocks, pop cans, etc etc.... although I would like to take a carbine class some day too.

So.. my thoughts turn to the following options.... Leupold MR/T 1.5-5, Acog
TA33, Aimpoint M3L.

Would the Acog let me get as tight groups as the leupold? I am kinda guessing "NO".... but dang... I like the idea of an Acog.

So..... spit out your thoughts and help me decide!!

Thanks!

rob_s

05-01-07, 04:29

I have a 2x mini-ACOG on my 16" so I have a 1.5x Mini-ACOG on my SBR.

You should be able to make good hits at 200 with irons, so having any amount of magnification fo shooting at 200 yards and in is not required.

Robb Jensen

05-01-07, 04:34

A 2MOA Aimpoint would work well as would the MR/T in a LaRue mount or as RobS recommended the mini ACOGs, really for those distances it's all just personal choice, they'll all get it done easily.

slipknot

05-01-07, 06:36

i am leaning towards a eotech 552

MX5

05-01-07, 07:24

I get hits out to 200 with an EOTech on my 10.5".

RWBlue

05-01-07, 08:38

I think most people will reccomend an Eotech or ACOG for close range action. As I understand it the military uses both. I ended up with an EoTech. It is not bad.

Additionally, I have a Leupold 4x Scout scope on one rifle. I like it, and for that rifle, I wouldn't want anything else.

Additionally, I have a monster mil-dot (sorry don't remember brand or power, but it is up there) on an other rifle. I would not reccomend this for close fast action.

As far as tight groups, I get tighter groups with optics with the more magnafication the better up until 24x. At 24x I could see my heart beat and it tended to open up the group just a little. And although, this is great for the range, but would suck in the field. For my hunting rifles I usually get a 3x or a 4x variable up to 12x. I then leave it on the lowest setting (3x or 4x) while moving.

Paulinski

05-01-07, 09:27

I use Aimpoint on my 10.5". I'm in the process of aquiring the 3X Magnifier but I think I'm going to mount in behind the Eotech on the 16" upper.

ashooter

05-01-07, 16:37

If you don't want to shell out for an S&B Short Dot, an Aimpoint M3/ML3 2 moa with the magnifier would probably suit you. You could put the magnifier on for coyotes or targets, and take it off for defensive use or classes etc.

The Leupold MR/T, ACOG seems overkill for a 10.5" barrel... and neither is going to be anywhere near as fast as an Aimpoint or Short Dot for CQB.

EOTech... I've tried to like them, but I just can't do it. I've owned 2of them and decided there are just are too many things not to like.

nationwide

05-01-07, 17:35

I'm very happy with my EOTech 512 on my 11.5" SBR :)

edwin907

05-01-07, 21:39

an Aimpoint M3/ML3 2 moa with the magnifier would probably suit you.

I've been very pleased with that exact setup. Magnifier usually stays in the utility pouch, I use the same LT mount as the Aimpoint 2MOA M3, and you can leave the throw lever a little less tight making it easy to put on and off quickly.

http://www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/76683204/original.jpg

SuicideHz

05-15-07, 20:45

I can do MOM easily with an Eotech. Just practice a little. Besides, it's fun!

gunny

05-15-07, 21:57

You will spend about the same for an Aimpoint or Eotech coupled w/magnifier as you will with an ACOG. That decision is up to you & how much you are willing to spend. If it were me I'd just go with the ACOG in one package, but you're limited to magnification all the time with the ACOG verses the removal of the magnifier at your decretion with the Aimpoint or Eotech. Or you could just buy all of them & have 2 of the 3 stowed with your duty gear until you're ready to use one of the others.

Colnago

06-02-17, 17:21

Ostdarva

06-02-17, 19:16

Trijicon MRO is pretty sweat for SBRs and pistols. Buddy has one on his and it was a blast.

Ironman8

06-02-17, 20:09

I have a similar question and rather than start a new thread, I thought I would ask it here. I am looking for an optic when my 300 BLK SBR gets out of jail. I was also go to run the SBR'ed lower with a 5.56 short upper (10.5" barrel). I wanted to have similar optics on both uppers so the gun feels the same from my perspective. My plan was to put aimpoint H2s on both the uppers and be done with it. Does this make sense to you or is there a better way?

Pick the optic based on the role of the rifle, regardless of barrel length. RDS or LPVO can be interchangeable but IMO, if the rifle is a 0-200 gun with an emphasis on room distances, then go with RDS. If you have the need to reach out, then go LPVO.

Now the better question is why the heck would you piggyback on a TEN year old thread?? I know someone has had this discussion since then and probably sometime with it this year....just sayin.

MattC

06-15-17, 10:21

This has got to be some kind of necrobump record.....

That being said, I think your Aimpoint H2 idea is absolutely winning for an SBR. Post pics when you get it done.

duece71

06-15-17, 12:00

Trijicon MRO is on my BCM 9" .300blk. Aimpoint T-1 on my LMT 10.5 upper. I like them both.

mig1nc

06-16-17, 07:55

I run a compact ACOG 1.5x16 on my 5.56 SBR. It's on a high mount and is as fast basically as an Aimpoint for me while being as light as a micro. I don't discount the light weight. It's very important to me.

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plinkerr

06-16-17, 08:29

From 2 months ago lol. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?195254-Suppressed-sbr-and-optics

RHINOWSO

06-16-17, 09:37

This has got to be some kind of necrobump record.....

Yessir, 10 years plus. :D

That being said, I think your Aimpoint H2 idea is absolutely winning for an SBR. Post pics when you get it done.
Yes, great optic for an SBR>

mig1nc

06-16-17, 10:08

Achievement unlocked: Necrobump Master

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MadDog

06-20-17, 10:38

I put a 1.5x Mini ACOG on my 10.5" 458 SOCOM and love the setup.

slowrx

06-26-17, 22:26

My 9inch 300 blackout has a Aimpoint compM and my 11.5inch 556 has an Aimpoint H1. I love both of them, however have found myself wanting something magnified. You could always run a magnifier with a red dot and have the ability to go 1x or magnified as opposed to one or the other.

308sako

06-27-17, 22:33

http://i.imgur.com/GjdYmVD.jpg?1

Aimpoint set for low light and 35 yard encounters, ACOG handles everything else LOL.

Actually I prefer the ACOG for any coyote shots beyond 20 yards. It's fast enough to acquire a killing shot.

SilentRecon

07-06-17, 00:00

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x160/308sako/DSCN4701_zpsi86rpd6r.jpg

Aimpoint set for low light and 35 yard encounters, ACOG handles everything else LOL.

Actually I prefer the ACOG for any coyote shots beyond 20 yards. It's fast enough to acquire a killing shot.

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SRT72

07-09-17, 21:29

There are a good bit of people running low powered variable optics for CQB. Kyle Defoor has been recommending LPVO for years. Just try to get a true 1x if you really want to do cqb stuff. The vortex razor and the steiner scopes seem to be popular. I think there is a burris model too that seems to be good. I have personally used a LPVO Sig and was able to run it almost as good as my Aimpoint H-1.

msh441

07-22-17, 14:22

I have an old Aimpoint Comp M2 and Aimpoint magnifier in a twist mount on my 13" middy.

I get a little oval distortion in the fattened-up dot when using the magnifier... and it's not the lightest setup out there by any means. But the gun is a just tack driver, and it's that fact that comes to mind every time I toy with the idea of something smaller/lighter. Don't mess with success.

Vegas

07-22-17, 14:44

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Made me laugh, thanks.

H1 on my 10.5 works for me although if I see an MRO for the right price I might give it a try as I have an opticless rifle that would get the loser.

byou79

08-03-17, 13:30

I'm planning on putting a MRO Patrol on my 10inch SCAR SBR.

WynnS

08-08-17, 08:56

I am running a Aimpoint PRO on my 11.5 Sionics.

bob6117

09-10-17, 18:25

I run a TA33 on my 12" sbr.

gaijin

09-11-17, 15:47

"Getting hits at 200"- and hitting coyotes (per OPs intro) at 200, with consistency, is in LPV territory in my book.

longshot2000

09-12-17, 12:35

SBR will mean short distance and quick target acquisition, right? I would opt for a MRO or Aimpoint T-1 or T-2. If you are not concerned about being mil-clone correct, the Aimpoint has a larger optic, easier to read and less expensive.