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I cannot take credit for this -- basicload from the lightfighter board was the first to draw it to my attention.
The idea is to cut the shroud down so it can be run up higher (better draw stroke and no weight on the legs)
-- All I did was pull the holster up to the height I wanted and noted where the shroud would dig into me.
Then I took a black marker and traced a half moon along the shroud - then cut along the line (I used a saw blade off a SOG tool -- but recently some of my guys have been using Dremels -- and it works a lot better)
The new (cheaper and flimsier) shroud is much eaiser to cut -- but unlike the old one the new one needs to affixed to the leg strap since the plastic sucks (it has a bracket that fall out all the time- so tape it down.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Gear/HosterMod001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Gear/HosterMod003.jpg
How it wears
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Gear/beltrig3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Gear/Beltrig2.jpg
Needless to say I've done this two two Glock 6004's here (my light and non light ones) - as well as a Sig, 1911, and BHP one back home...
Thanks Kevin, I have been meaning to cut mine for the past three months. Your pictures and instructions will certainly help.
I was one of the fellas on the lightfighter board. My buddy Dan Colasanto and me wear our Safariland 6280's with the 2.5 inch drop UBL and a single leg strap to hold it against your leg better. A bunch of our fellow swat guys cut theirs down just like yours.
Derek_Connor
07-16-06, 23:26
the HSGI udhp can be placed VERY high on the leg, im guessing just as high as the one above.
I talked to Gene after having problems with it riding to low with the QD belt mount, and he sent me a simple "loop" to use with the holster instead of the QD. It rides real high...
the HSGI udhp can be placed VERY high on the leg, im guessing just as high as the one above.
I talked to Gene after having problems with it riding to low with the QD belt mount, and he sent me a simple "loop" to use with the holster instead of the QD. It rides real high...
Excellent! I have a UDHP and one of HSGIs plain leg panels. The leg panel has a shorter, simple loop with no quick release buckle. I have been thinking about trying to swap it and see if it would raise the holster up some more on my stumpy leg -- and I bet that's what he sent you. Unfortunately I haven't gotten to play with it too much yet as I'm still waiting on a proper belt.
That is a sweet idea. Thanks for the tip.
Kevin, I like the beard.
NOW you like a Canadian.
:D
FYI- I grew up about forty minutes from the border
Beard is gone now :( -- I was told I looked "too BlackWater"
militarymoron
07-18-06, 22:48
did the same mod as kevin's and others. like it much better than 2 straps. pics at the top of this page:
http://www.militarymorons.com/faq/faqs.html
Is that the Schmidt Bender Short Dot that I spy on that rifle?
Nice mod on the holster.
CapnCrunch
07-23-06, 02:59
I used MM's instructions to do mine. Works great, and doesn't look half bad either ;)
Kev,
I will post some pics of mine later. By the way guys mine is much nicer that his Sog tool hack job!
Ross I tried the belt adapter but it was still to high. I think that I only had a 1.5 inch adapter, do they make a longer one.
Gary
Good to see you here Gary.
BTDT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/MtnDiz/6004mod1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/MtnDiz/6004mod2.jpg
Well while mine works -- everyone else's looks better
BravoCompanyUSA
08-08-06, 19:56
That looks like a significant improvement to comfort and such a simple mod.
I wonder why Safariland doesn't offer a model variation like that?
Is there any drawbacks to that higher ride in some scenerios?
Not realistically, in my experience -- unless one rigs right sided for rappel (which should not be done for a right handed pistol shooter IMHO).
It is more awkward to access in a vehicle - but once again (IMHO) you should be using a rifle/carbine first in a vehicle -- and if I have to go to secondary - I will be contorting my body to get out of the line of sight - or even out of the vehicle itself that an extra bit to draw in that pos'n would bother me.
Rmplstlskn
08-08-06, 20:23
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Gear/Beltrig2.jpg
That is one hell of a magazine load you have there... :eek:
That will sink you in a river fast... :D
Just a random comment, off topic no less...
Rmpl
I'm not sure why they don't offer a single strap panel. It seems at one point all the big mfg's went to a double leg strap (cool factor?), and you can't hardly find a decent single strap anymore. So now many guys are modifying their own. In fact, the trend seems to be going with a rigid low ride panel (UBL) with no leg strap at all. I just ordered the new 6351 ALS holster with a medium ride belt slide panel for CCW. I'm also ordering a UBL for wear with a chest rig. The only problem is the belt slot is 2" and I wear a 1 3/4" riggers belt. May end up making my own kydex belt slot panel.
I finally got around to modifying my 6004 during some down time at work today. I will have to say it’s a noticeable improvement. You can very easily feel the difference having the weight up higher and off the legs.
It’s also very easy to do. It only took me about twenty minutes total and that’s after spending some extra attention to cosmetics. I spend almost as much time with a file & sandpaper as I did cutting it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/va_dinger/2004_010160040002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/va_dinger/2004_010160040004.jpg
Policetacteam
09-13-06, 01:36
Diz,
That looks $h!+ hot! Did you bevel the edges to smooth everything out.
LukeMacGillie
11-01-06, 12:18
Just had a Rep from Safariland here in my office. They are going to be offereing the Cut Shroud as an option on the 6004 and as a seperate part starting around Jan of next year.
Dont quote me on the part number, but might possibly be 6004-10
Luke, thanks for the info.
Does anyone know of a place or person who will do this mod for a fee?
Thanks.
I finally jumped on the Modded 6004 Bandwagon (I'm always late to the party) and like it a lot..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1117.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1116.jpg
Heres how it rides..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1122.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1120.jpg
The Mod is simple, make a template and a Sharpie to draw it on the back of the Shroud. The use a dremel with a cutting disc to remove most of the shroud about 1/8" away from your line. Finish up with an exacto Knife and some sand paper and Viola... add Krylon color of choice.
Kevin's is still cooler cause his looks like he did it with a Dull Multi tool serrated knife...;)
Here's my modified 6004. I free hand drew the cut. I used a Dremel then used the cut piece as a template for the other cut. Had to cut the belt strap and melt the end and re-attached. Rig started black and I masked off the hood release mechanism and shot it with Krylon. Even the straps took the paint though I don't expect that to last. I just wanted to get rid of the black.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/446804.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/img/446801.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/img/446803.jpg
Voodoochild
11-02-06, 21:37
Kevin I know this is off topic but what kind of chest rig is that you have in the picture.
Paraclete RAV
since replaced with a Eagle CIRAS Martime
I'm unable to get the search function to work. Could I please trouble someone to post a link to the leg shroud modifications for the 6004 that were done by, I believe, Kevn B?
These were the mods allowing it to ride higher up on the leg.
thanks
I found it for you:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=518
If you continue to have problems with the search function please make a post in the "Site Questions / Comments" part of this forum. The Staff/Admin guys will help you out.
LukeMacGillie
01-24-07, 05:19
So did anyone see the cut shroud mod from Safariland at SHOT?
that mod and trying to get one of the 6004's for a 229R/X200 is one hell of a task
Robb Jensen
01-24-07, 05:34
I looked at their booth but didn't see it.
Looks like it's already on the Safariland website. Called the small tactical leg shroud made in a 6004 and a 6005 model:
http://www.safariland.com/images/catalog/6004-10_l.jpg
Looks like it's already on the Safariland website. Called the small tactical leg shroud made in a 6004 and a 6005 model:
http://www.safariland.com/images/catalog/6004-10_l.jpg
I like that.
Looks like it's already on the Safariland website. Called the small tactical leg shroud made in a 6004 and a 6005 model:
http://www.safariland.com/images/catalog/6004-10_l.jpg
Giff,
I'm not by any sense of the imagination computer savy, thus I couldn't find this on the Safariland website. Can you point me in the direction as to who is selling these and how much? Also, can you get this shroud with the holster or is this an add on? Thanks.
Giff,
I'm not by any sense of the imagination computer savy, thus I couldn't find this on the Safariland website. Can you point me in the direction as to who is selling these and how much? Also, can you get this shroud with the holster or is this an add on? Thanks.
Here is the link.
http://www.safariland.com/products.asp?id=361
And what is an EDW unit? Just curious.
Here is the link.
http://www.safariland.com/products.asp?id=361
And what is an EDW unit? Just curious.
Guessing here, but Electrical Discharge Weapon perhaps? Tasers.
Anyone know if Grant will carry the above small tactical shroud and when?:confused:
Giff,
I'm not by any sense of the imagination computer savy, thus I couldn't find this on the Safariland website. Can you point me in the direction as to who is selling these and how much? Also, can you get this shroud with the holster or is this an add on? Thanks.
I'm sure anyone who sells them can order them. I think Grant could, and I'm pretty sure I could source them as well.
Here is the link.
http://www.safariland.com/products.asp?id=361
And what is an EDW unit? Just curious.
Interesting....this option does not come up for me. The following link is as far as I can get.
http://www.safariland.com/duty/dtholsters.asp
Interesting....this option does not come up for me. The following link is as far as I can get.
http://www.safariland.com/duty/dtholsters.asp
When you get to that page, do a search for 6004. You'll see all accessories available for the 6004 including the shrouds. You should also see the 6005 holsters, shrouds and such.
Giff
John Hearne
03-04-07, 21:20
I thought the group might be interested in knowing that the original design for the drop-leg holster, generally credited to the SAS, was exactly like the modded 6004. The holster was never meant to drop to the leg, just to get below body armor.
This is a copy of one of the originals:
http://c-rusty.com/Resources/holsters/tactical-med.jpg
fivepointoh
03-05-07, 00:41
Doesn't exactly show how but show's what...this is a 6005 for a G17
I also have this w/ an Emdom drop hanger flipped.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/DSC01257.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/DSC01256.jpg
LonghunterCO
03-06-07, 09:05
I have tried my buddies 6004 a long time ago. I was impresses with its speed, retention, and reholstering ability. I was set on buying on and ended up going with a Cordon nylon "soft" type. I have been considering a switch to the 6004/6005. What is the advantage of the small rig posted above?
i thought the old gunslingers had the hook up back in the cowboy days. on drop rigs.
Once you use a 6004/6000 series you will never want to use another drop holster again. Safariland really hit a home run with this holster.
Thanks to those pioneers that performed the shroud mod, I did it and it rocks.
BTT! Great thread with alot of pics and info! I just got one and may need to modify! I will be mounting a Strider using one of their modded sheaths for a EB knife! Pics to follow!
fivepointoh
03-07-07, 10:38
Posted this in another thread but here's my 6005. I've got a DBT Battelab belt on the way so more pics will be coming but I'm using an Emdom drop hanger flipped upside down w/ the 6005. Here are the pics (freshly painted) and also a pic of where I ride it
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/DSC01256.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/DSC01255.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/DSC01238.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/muhtalicbloo/DSC01236.jpg
Jarhead0331
03-07-07, 20:51
Excellent thread. I've been thinking about getting a 6004, now I know what to do with it, once I get it.
CarlosDJackal
03-13-07, 15:01
I'm jumping on this bandwagon as soon as I get home. I've heard people doing this before but I never gave it much thought until now. It makes perfect sense!! I wonder if the Sheriff would let me use this modified rig for duty instead of the normal manner (I'm runniong out of room on my duty belt)?
Kevin, how many magazines do you carry on your rig?
I couldn't contain myself after trying out my friend's modded 6004 so I had to re-do mine. I was able to do it with a small hand saw and then I cleaned it up with a dremmel and finished it with some sand paper. I haven't cut the suspension strap yet becuase I am still waiting for a quick release buckle from Safariland and don't know exactly how long it will be.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r29/l_jimenez30/DSCN1207.jpg
S/F
Libardo
Here's my Bolandized 6004. A Sig P226 with surefire Nitrolon sits inside.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/sgaaliyah/6004001.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/sgaaliyah/6004002.jpg
This is a very worthwhile modification that can be completed in about 15 min. if you have the tools and shop set-up - longer if using all hand tools, but worth the time. Go slow and be patient. In my shop we use aviation snips to rough cut the plate, then a Ryobi belt sander to fast cut the edges. The drum on the end makes a nice radius. Dremel tool to finish edges. Good to go!
i thought the old gunslingers had the hook up back in the cowboy days. on drop rigs.
Actually, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Han Solo had the first thigh rig. I'm getting ready to mod mine today.
Done! This cheapo coping saw worked perfect.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/trixiebud/andradepix025.jpg?t=1199569847
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/trixiebud/andradepix026.jpg?t=1199569996
Erick Gelhaus
01-05-08, 20:29
I'm with Pat A on this ... I just don't see the need for it in uniformed, patrol police work. We've seen this come up with a couple of our cops (& a few at other agencies) again of late.
The item was designed for use with an externally worn (heavy) entry vest and allowing the pistol to be worn just low enough to clear the armor.
If you're using externally worn armor, then this design is great - I've got 6004s with the modified shroud for my work 1911 and a M9.
The modified shroud is the way to go with these; I was able to mod mine with a set of trauma shears and emery cloth.
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