MS-2 For Use With UBR [Archive] - M4Carbine.net Forums

Sparky5019

04-26-10, 19:19

Hey Guys,

Seems like the UBR stock is becoming popular to balance out (or move balance point to the rear more) SBRs...is there any plan to add an ASAP style attachment option for the UBR...if there isn't, should there be? Personally, I think it would make a great, versatile stock even better and sell like matches in the middle ages! :D Just aking/suggesting!

Thanks...keep on making the best stuff around!!

Sparky

Sparky5019

05-08-10, 18:41

Travis, Chris, Drake...anyone out there?

Is this thing on?

I know the wheels are turning, guys...they never stop with y'all!

Seriously, am I just smoking crack here?

:D

Sparky

kmrtnsn

05-08-10, 18:48

I talked to Drake in February about an ASAP plate that would clamp the receiver extension instead of the current version's method of installation. Lots of different operators can't remove the receiver extension to install an ASAP Plate due to policies limiting modifications to issue weapons. Drake listened, understood the problem and the need but explained a few manufacturing/engineering issues with the idea. Nice guys at Magpul. I look forward to training with them again soon.

Sparky5019

05-09-10, 08:11

Cool,

I figured someone was thinking about it. Specifically, I was thinking about something that would mount on the spot of the forward QD socket on the underside near the rear endplate. I figured the manufacturing changes would be too great to actually allow an ASAP to mount in front of the stock. I was thinking more of an "upgrade" to be purchased separately. Good to know they are working on it. I'll ask them whenever I make it to a class!

Thanks,

Sparky

HeavyDuty

05-09-10, 08:20

That's really my only complaint with the UBR design. I'm getting around it right now with a KAC ball-lock eyelet, but I'd prefer something more like an ASAP's loop.

Robb Jensen

05-09-10, 10:31

What I did to make a Magpul MS2 sling work with a UBR was to mod a GEAR Sector QD adapter removing the plastic buckle and replacing it with a D ring and resewing it together.

Gear Sector QD adapter unmodified:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/MS2slingGEAR.jpg

After changing the plastic buckle to a D ring:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/MS2sling2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/MS2sling.jpg

Sparky5019

05-09-10, 11:31

Great idea Robb! I may try that. What I was thinking about was a bolt that would secure through the QD slot and have a stout ring under it like an ASAP. We'll see. Thanks.

Sparky

HeavyDuty

05-09-10, 12:08

I tried using a QD like that and had problems catching it under the web of my hand. YMMV, of course - I have broad palms and use a high grip.

TehLlama

05-09-10, 15:04

I too tend to catch on the QD's metal loop, and while I entertained the though of using the KAC stud, it seems like the new ASAP-UBR solution is going to be the real winner overall.

That said, if you 'need' an ASAP or DD/Noveske QD endplate attachment AND the constant-cheekweld on adjustable stock, the ERGO Licence built M93's will work with those endplates.

FromMyColdDeadHand

05-10-10, 08:18

Great idea Robb! I may try that. What I was thinking about was a bolt that would secure through the QD slot and have a stout ring under it like an ASAP. We'll see. Thanks.

Sparky

Sewing! You might as well told me to use a fusion reactor :)

I've tried a bunch of stuff, maybe someone can complete some of my half-baked ideas.

The QD cup is reversible, so I just took it off and tried running plastic covered wire rope thru and make a loop, but I never could figure out a way to make the loop small enough and make the loop junction points strong enough.

I've been looking for a carbinier or a D Ring big enough but thin enough to feed thru that same hole.

I've thought about putting QD cups on either side of the rifle and using two of HeavyDuty's KAC Eyelets on either side of the to string some wire thru. At $50 a pop X2, that is just getting to expensive to play with with out a set solution on the loop.

Sparky5019

05-10-10, 20:36

Brain is chewing on it...I need to get the stock and have a few rainy days to figure it out! Project for another day!

Sparky

jsebens

05-11-10, 08:03

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?aid=2380170&id=23324729

Let me know if this doesn't work for you, and I'll double-check the privacy settings.

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Sparky5019

05-11-10, 15:44

Did not work...I can send you a friend request if you want!

Sparky

Sparky5019

05-11-10, 15:45

I sent you a friend request!

Sparky

jsebens

05-11-10, 16:08

Sparky, sorry, I saw it, but didn't know it was you.

Try the link again; it should have been opened up for public viewing.

Dos Cylindros

05-11-10, 19:05

I just picked up a UBR and was thinking the same thing. Seems like something could be engineered to go through the hole at the receiver QD attachment point and give you a metal loop to run under the stock so I could continue to use my MS2.

I guess I will be picking up a gear sector sling with dual QD mounts and get one of their rail mount QD attachments and run a two point.

TehLlama

05-12-10, 13:04

I misplaced the link, but directly from Drake, they're going to roll out something exactly like that in the near future. My crystal ball tells me it's probably a quarter out, but that it is coming.

jsebens

05-12-10, 13:10

I misplaced the link, but directly from Drake, they're going to roll out something exactly like that in the near future. My crystal ball tells me it's probably a quarter out, but that it is coming.

So I heard when I sent him photos of this. I think it's a great idea, and I'm sure they can do a better job of it than I did; it's a shame to have two concepts as great as the ASAP/MS2 and UBR not work together.

Dos Cylindros

05-12-10, 22:33

I misplaced the link, but directly from Drake, they're going to roll out something exactly like that in the near future. My crystal ball tells me it's probably a quarter out, but that it is coming.

So they are coming out with something??!! That is the best news I have heard all week. I really like the concept of the MS2/MS3 but I love the UBR and how durable it is. I will make due with attaching it to a QD loop until the Magpul solution arrives.

That Guy v2.0

08-19-10, 12:33

I misplaced the link, but directly from Drake, they're going to roll out something exactly like that in the near future. My crystal ball tells me it's probably a quarter out, but that it is coming.

Anyone have any word on this product?

DrDrake

08-19-10, 12:36

We're getting there Fellas. Hang in there.

alecks

10-01-10, 15:06

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?aid=2380170&id=23324729

Let me know if this doesn't work for you, and I'll double-check the privacy settings.

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I was re-watching AOTCII and was thinking of a way to do exactly that!

I hope Magpul comes out with something soon, so I don't to go Dr.Frankenstein in the garage