Remington Golden Sabres, Thoughts? [Archive]

Taran

04-29-10, 01:32

Anyone use them? Know much about them? Can compare them to other 230 gr rounds?

My 1911 likes them better than Hornady XTPs, and they certainly make bigger holes in the 2x4s that are behind my paper targets, but that's about all I know about them.
Of course, I've only fired 3 different rounds through this gun, PMC Ball, Hornady XTP and these, so I don't have much experience with the different ammos for comparison's sake.

John_Wayne777

04-29-10, 06:59

For handgun ammo, I suggest sticking to the recommendations found here:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887

The 230 grain Golden Saber load is widely recognized for having the worst muzzle flash of any handgun round on the market. That's kind of a big deal if you are trying to fire the weapon in low light.

As for ballistic performance, IIRC it does OK, but since it isn't on DocGKR's list then it must have some issues.

Robb Jensen

04-29-10, 07:10

I agree the Canon Speedlite (strobe/flash) for my Canon 50D has a lot less flash than Remington Golden Saber. ;)

For .45 I like the Winchester 230gr PDX1 Bonded.

HK45

05-01-10, 01:46

It's a dated round. Good in it's time but not great if the shootee is wearing layers of clothing as it tends not to expand.

pac022

05-01-10, 02:19

my only experience with them was in 9mm. it wasnt a good one since it could have potentially gone a whole other direction. any other caliber however i have no experience with.

ChicagoTex

05-01-10, 03:15

For .45 I recommend Speer Gold Dots or Federal HSTs.

Actually, that's what I recommend for every caliber.

Robb Jensen

05-01-10, 04:29

Here's what I carry:

.380auto = Magtech 90gr FMJ
9mm = Winchester PDX1 147gr Bonded JHP
.357SIG = Speer Gold Dot 125gr JHP
.40S&W = Federal HST 180gr JHP
.45ACP = Winchester PDX1 230gr Bonded JHP

RAM Engineer

05-01-10, 07:00

Here's what I carry:

.380auto = Magtech 90gr FMJ
9mm = Winchester PDX1 147gr Bonded JHP
.357SIG = Speer Gold Dot 125gr JHP
.40S&W = Federal HST 180gr JHP
.45ACP = Winchester PDX1 230gr Bonded JHP

No love for the .40 S&W PDX1?

shadow65

05-01-10, 19:24

I like the 230Gr. Fed HST but the Winchester Bonded is a great round.

Robb Jensen

05-01-10, 19:29

No love for the .40 S&W PDX1?

Just don't have any but I do have access to 180gr Federal HST.

texag

05-02-10, 13:04

For handgun ammo, I suggest sticking to the recommendations found here:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887

The 230 grain Golden Saber load is widely recognized for having the worst muzzle flash of any handgun round on the market. That's kind of a big deal if you are trying to fire the weapon in low light.

As for ballistic performance, IIRC it does OK, but since it isn't on DocGKR's list then it must have some issues.

IIRC it was something about jacket separation when encountering intermediate barriers like auto glass.

Assy Mcgee

05-02-10, 13:23

i prefer Federal HST, Winchester ranger, or PDX1 Bonded.

silentsod

05-02-10, 21:30

IIRC it was something about jacket separation when encountering intermediate barriers like auto glass.

The bonded version of the bullet is supposed to have taken care of that issue. They can be found (I have a box of 185gr bonded that I picked up, but I carry 230gr Gold Dots) occasionally, but I have not seen them in abundance.

pofboom

05-02-10, 21:32

I have them for my 9mm but I mainly use Federal Tactical loads.