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Our site sponsor, TigerSwan, will have their own Glock models available this summer. These use the same parts/configuration that their instructors run. If you've ever seen guys like Kyle Defoor or any of them actually you'd know they run and run very well. I'm interested in the Wilson barrel because I didn't even know (because I'm not an industry insider) that Wilson made Glock barrels. But I'm looking forward to checking them out and picking one of these guns up when they're available!
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TigerSwan Glock 17
This Gen 3 Glock 17 has the same parts installed as our instructor guns. The Gen 3 model Glock has an aggressive grip to help manage recoil. The professional installation of select components makes an incredible difference in accuracy and shoot ability. The TigerSwan Glock 17 will be available in our Pro Shop 1 June.
The pistol includes:
Hand Fitted Wilson Match Barrel
3.5 lb Glock Trigger Bar Connector
Dawson Precision Adjustable Rear Sight
Dawson Precision Black Front Sight
Vickers Extended Tactical Glock Magazine Release
Glock Factory Extended Slide Release
Price: $760
Little on the pricey side for a Glock, but the features seem stellar on paper.
Heavy Metal
05-11-10, 20:35
Of course I see this just having purchased a new Gen 3 Glock 17 last week.
But that's ok. Only a fool would say it was my last G-17.
Well I'll be G' D'ed. LOL
A Wilson fitted match barrel! And when that Marine SGT asked about tips to improve the accuracy of his Glock he got dog piled about "software" not "hardware" and all the elite shooters just shoot them Glocks so much you get good. :p
This is very cool. I'll never buy one, I'm full up on Glocks but nice to know how these pro's hot rod their Glocks.
Business_Casual
05-11-10, 21:16
I think it takes nothing away from the Glock (durable, reliable, ubiquitous) and adds a measure of shootability and accuracy that helps with scoring well on the Aggregate and other 25 meter shooting.
But hey, as many here point out regularly, what do I know?
B_C
Do you really need a match barrel in a Glock? I feel this wouldn't be a real pro for the average shooter. Though it also wouldn't be a con.
Also, would these barrels last at least 200k rounds before being shot out?
Do you really need a match barrel in a Glock? I feel this wouldn't be a real pro for the average shooter. Though it also wouldn't be a con.
Also, would these barrels last at least 200k rounds before being shot out?
When I drop a Bar-Sto in my Glocks I notice an instant inprovement in the trigger quality. It locks up the barrel/slide frame fit more, which takes some of the mushiness out of the trigger. You can see it working as the rear of the slide doesn't dip as much when you pull the trigger before the sear is released.
The improved accuracy gains are both practical and inherent. Plus it improves the unsupported chamber issues in .40 and .45. Based on all these improvements, I always opt for a match barrel to improve a Glock's accuracy and shootability.
SWATcop556
05-11-10, 22:46
Interesting choice on the adjustable rear sight. I wonder why they went that route. My experiences with adjustable sights on handguns has been sub-par to say the least. I also don't see the extended slide stop as a benefit. Other than that it looks like a great setup. Change out those two things and I'd probably take one.
GermanSynergy
05-11-10, 22:49
Awesome! I'm game for one.
As long as i could get some good night sights on there, i would be interested. What qualities does the 3.5 lb Glock Trigger Bar Connector give to the trigger pull?
Beerswimmer
05-11-10, 23:28
The sights throw me off. Black front, and an adjustable rear? Seems to make it hard to see front, and rear sights that could move around on ya. :confused:
Ok for paper in the sunshine I guess......
Magic_Salad0892
05-12-10, 04:03
With the exception of the barrel, this would be a great buy. :)
I already have a Glock 17 that I find, perfect though.
Littlelebowski
05-12-10, 05:15
The sights throw me off. Black front, and an adjustable rear? Seems to make it hard to see front, and rear sights that could move around on ya. :confused:
Ok for paper in the sunshine I guess......
Do you really think the rear sight is going to move around on you?
As long as i could get some good night sights on there, i would be interested. What qualities does the 3.5 lb Glock Trigger Bar Connector give to the trigger pull?
Noticeably lighter than standard "5.5 lb". And this translates directly to being easier to hit more accurately faster. Of the 3 Glocks I've had with the 3.5 (now called the "-" I think) the one with the Scherer aftermarket version was smoothest.
The difference in drills and gun games is pretty dramatic in my experience - primarily when you get out past 10-12 yards.
My Scherer 3.5 Glock 17 was IMO too light a pull for CCW.
When I drop a Bar-Sto in my Glocks I notice an instant inprovement in the trigger quality. It locks up the barrel/slide frame fit more, which takes some of the mushiness out of the trigger. You can see it working as the rear of the slide doesn't dip as much when you pull the trigger before the sear is released.
The improved accuracy gains are both practical and inherent.
That is completely new info for me. Thanks much. I would like to pursue that one of these days.
And when that Marine SGT asked about tips to improve the accuracy of his Glock he got dog piled about "software" not "hardware"...
Hey I got dog piled too for posting that I noticed a slight improvement in accuracy with my Lone Wolf barrels. <shrug>
John_Wayne777
05-12-10, 07:27
Hey I got dog piled too for posting that I noticed a slight improvement in accuracy with my Lone Wolf barrels. <shrug>
Without question, replacing the factory Glock barrel with a match barrel can improve the mechanical accuracy of the pistol.
Generally the wisest money to be spent on accuracy is on proper training and developing excellent sight management and trigger control skills. If you're a Tiger Swan instructor, however, you're probably in the top percentile of shooters in regards to those skillsets already. At their high skill level, they may well find that the inherent accuracy limitations of the weapon itself are actually a significant drag on their level of performance and so improvements to the inherent mechanical accuracy of the pistol might make a lot of sense.
I'm sure that Tiger Swan instructors have fielded innumerable queries about their preferred equipment choices while teaching classes and that this pistol is the product of the expressed desire for such a product by a lot of students who wish to emulate the performance they see from the instructors during class. The pistol, though, isn't the reason they are good shooters. Years of some of the best firearms training in the world combined with dedicated practice and the benefits of heaven only knows how many rounds downrange to high standards of performance combines to make the equipment look really good. ;)
As long as i could get some good night sights on there, i would be interested. What qualities does the 3.5 lb Glock Trigger Bar Connector give to the trigger pull?
The exact nature of the change depends on the little idiosyncrasies of your particular specimen, but in general the commercially available 3.5# connector (I'm assuming that's what's in the TS guns) drops the felt weight of the trigger pull by a pound or so. It doesn't actually yield a 3.5# trigger in any stock Glock I've tried, but if combined with some other things that GotM4 could tell you about it can be a part of a true 3.5# trigger...or less. AFAIK there is a real 3 or so pound Glock factory drop-in connector that results in a label-accurate trigger pull, but they're only available to a certain high-speed unit that uses Glock sidearms.
Kyle Defoor
05-12-10, 08:11
Got a few emails about questions.
No, I don't shoot a match barrel, some instructors do. It's a personal preference thing.
Yes, I use my sights from Amerglo, not the Dawson's. Again, personal preference by the instructors.
This setup is used by a few of our instructors and we thought it was a great way to get the most out of the Glock. To our knowledge, no one has offered this combo before.
The match barrel will, for sure, shrink your shot group at 25. This is attained because of the tight fit, and higher quality manufacturer's process of making the barrel. It's a "heavy" barrel for a pistol, so to speak.
Littlelebowski
05-12-10, 08:47
How tight is the chamber on Wilson barrels? Would it be a problem with Wolf ammo?
Do you really think the rear sight is going to move around on you?
Typically, yes. Adjustable sights on a combat pistol does not make sense to me.
C4
Hey I got dog piled too for posting that I noticed a slight improvement in accuracy with my Lone Wolf barrels. <shrug>
I wouldn't have any issues with replacing the Glock barrel (as they tend to have "chambers like a porn stars A-hole." );)
If the gun is reliable and giving you the accuracy that you want, then go with it.
C4
Robb Jensen
05-12-10, 09:45
Typically, yes. Adjustable sights on a combat pistol does not make sense to me.
C4
I 100% agree. I've broken far to many adjustable sights on competition guns to ever trust them on a defensive/training/SHTF gun the ones I've broken include Dawson, Bomar, Caspian, STI. I've seen many others break Millet & Novaks.
I wouldn't have any issues with replacing the Glock barrel (as they tend to have "chambers like a porn stars A-hole." ;)
If the gun is reliable and giving you the accuracy that you want, then go with it.
C4
I agree. I find no need for match 'fitted' barrels in Glocks.
I've hit 8" plates at 75yds with a stock Glock 17 barrel. Looey hit these same plates even better than I did while an instructor down there.
But it's your money, if they work 100% in your guns and helps your confidence go for it.
Have to say I don't see anything in this pistol I want or need. Gotta have Warren sights for one thing. If I were to install a match barrel it would be a fitted Bar-Sto. Might as well go with the Gold Standard. Plus I'm committed to the Gen 4 Glocks as mine run like a top.
http://www.barsto.com/category_main.cfm?ID=GLOCK
If you're a Tiger Swan instructor, however, you're probably in the top percentile of shooters in regards to those skillsets already. At their high skill level, they may well find that the inherent accuracy limitations of the weapon itself are actually a significant drag on their level of performance and so improvements to the inherent mechanical accuracy of the pistol might make a lot of sense.
I'm sure that Tiger Swan instructors have fielded innumerable queries about their preferred equipment choices while teaching classes and that this pistol is the product of the expressed desire for such a product by a lot of students who wish to emulate the performance they see from the instructors during class. The pistol, though, isn't the reason they are good shooters. Years of some of the best firearms training in the world combined with dedicated practice and the benefits of heaven only knows how many rounds downrange to high standards of performance combines to make the equipment look really good. ;)
Outstanding post.
You my friend "Get It".
:D
JW777's post hits the nail on the head. This isn't a gun for the masses, or even the above average. This is a gun for a top shooter that can wring every centimeter of accuracy out of a gun.
The benefits of a match barrel are lost on the overwhelming majority of shooters, who are incapable of producing the differences in mechanical accuracy a match has over OEM. OEM barrels are also reliable across a broader spectrum of ammunition.
The (-) connector lightens trigger pull, but only has a place on a working gun when coupled with a NY1 connector.
Adjustable sights are indeed more susceptible to damage and movements due to incidental or intentional impacts. Can the Dawson be used to snag a belt or holster during a one-handed slide operation, be dropped, used to strike people or things, and retain adjustment?
I don't have much use for the Vickers mag catch or extended OEM slide stop, but I'm not necessarily a pundit of them, either.
Short: Specialists gun for a certain user, or for a buyer that likes to own unique things.
I think its too range focused.
NCPatrolAR
05-12-10, 12:17
The (-) connector lightens trigger pull, but only has a place on a working gun when coupled with a NY1 connector.
I've been running "-" connectors with standard trigger springs for years now with no issues. I dont view the NY1 as a needed addition.
SWATcop556
05-12-10, 12:24
My ideal G17 would be a stock Gen 3 with either Warrens or Kyle's new Ameriglo sights with a plug and Vickers mag release. There are good and bad (for me) with this gun. I am a fairly compitent shooter and probably could not shoot to the ability of the barrel so I can do without it.
I have not had a chance to try the"-" connector and NY1 spring combo but I'm going to pick up the parts and give it a run but so far the stock Glock trigger works just fine for me.
I think than John Wayne777's and Kyle's posts are points well taken. If you have the skill (and the money) and want to wring the most accuracy-wise from the platform, I can see where the Wilson fitted barrel and adjustable sights make sense.
I'm not sure that I'd welcome them on a gun for field operations/self defense, at least without extensive use in various environments/scenarios beforehand. I'd be particularly skeptical of the adjustable sight's ability to stand up to heavy field use.
While I'm certainly not chanting the "Glock Perfection" mantra, competitiors like Dave Sevigny seem to do just fine with the stock Glock barrel.
I guess that what I'm getting at is that the Tiger Swan mods as a package seem more applicable to a competitively-oriented G34 or G35, then say a G17...But things really depend on one's individual use intentions for a given gun (and pocketbook). All things taken into account, $760 really sounds like a pretty fair price for the gun and the mods.
Best, Jon
Got a few emails about questions.
No, I don't shoot a match barrel, some instructors do. It's a personal preference thing.
Yes, I use my sights from Amerglo, not the Dawson's. Again, personal preference by the instructors.
This setup is used by a few of our instructors and we thought it was a great way to get the most out of the Glock. To our knowledge, no one has offered this combo before.
The match barrel will, for sure, shrink your shot group at 25. This is attained because of the tight fit, and higher quality manufacturer's process of making the barrel. It's a "heavy" barrel for a pistol, so to speak.
Thanks for sharing your setup Kyle, great info! I do remember hearing that you shot the OEM Glock barrel because you're the only one I've heard of that has shot one out! :D
I wouldn't have any issues with replacing the Glock barrel (as they tend to have "chambers like a porn stars A-hole." );)
If the gun is reliable and giving you the accuracy that you want, then go with it.
C4
The run either a Lone Wolf conversion barrel in my G23 or a threaded barrel on my G19. I don't need a tighter camber in my carry gun.
Between my 17 and 34, I've got about 100K downrange. Both have Bar-Sto barrels, Dawson adjustable FO sights and factory 3.5# connectors. About the onlly issues I've had were front fiber optic rods coming loose (which I fixed by flaring both ends of the rod channel).
I have had out of spec reloads lodge in the chamber, which at matches is either corrected by grasping the slide overhand and whacking the back of the grip with the other hand, or whacking the muzzle against a solid object to dislodge the swelled case. I've yet to have any issues with the adjustable sight or the barrel with factory fodder.
My 34 did double duty as my duty gun until we went to G-21's. I never felt any of the mods were a hindrance and each of them added to the capability of the gun.
Is this trigger set up too light for CCW?
Littlelebowski
05-12-10, 16:59
Nope. Still over 5lbs.
They lost me on the adjustable sights.
In the 60's and 70's adjustable sights were very common on the most prolific defense handguns in the US - all those S&W revolvers in use by American LE.
LAPD - S&W Model 15s and even 14s (they know a thing or two) and who knows how many depts issued the Model 19.
Quality adjustable sights just aren't a liability for the vast majority of self defense purposes. One could make a different allowance for general issue military handguns and the nature of issuing them to different users and the treatment that they may endure over decades of service life.
An above average shooter (not "elite") absolutely benefits from a more accurate firearm. How in the world can one dispute this? ;) Surely most of us have actually seen this with our own eyes.
Many different premium JHPs shoot to fairly dramatically different points of impact at 25 yds. I've seen 4-6" differences in one or more directions. And with adjustable sights one can dial in the load you really want or really have to use.
I was not all that impressed with the adjustable Dawsons I put on a G34 some years back but if there were better options I wouldn't hesitate to use them.
Does any of this matter in the majority of defensive shootings? To paraphrase Matt E: probably not. Until it does. ;)
GLOCKMASTER
05-12-10, 19:58
Good looking pistol and I think TS did a good job setting this up. I spoke to Brian S. a couple of years ago during a class about adjustable sights and he left me with the impression that he is a firm believer in these sights. Not only on a target pistol but also on a combat pistol and I would have to say he would know just a little about a combat pistol.;)
Is this trigger set up too light for CCW?
Mine run about 4.25#. Glock calls it a 3.5# connector, but they rarely if ever create a pull that light.
I've never seen anyone measure a "3.5 lb" connector and find it at 3.5lbs. Just as you say, always a pound more. I don't avoid them for carry because they are 3.5lbs or I think they are. I avoid them because of the lack of a manual safety in conjunction with a relatively short and light trigger. It's a legitimate user preference either way I suppose.
I can understand someone wanting to maximize the performance potential of their pistol. I have Warne sights and a Vickers mag release on my G17 for this very reason.
Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of shooters delude themselves into thinking that if they had better gear, they'd be a better shooter. I think many shooters would be better off spending the money for an "upgraded" Glock' or any other model of pistol for that matter, on ammunition and sound practice.
Case in point: when I was at the Hackathorn 2 day Advance Pistol course recently, there was a shooter there with both a Les Baer and Nighthawk Custom Vickers model 1911. That's a lot of money for some primo hardware. Based upon his shooting performance he would have been better off with a single Springfield MC Operator and spending the difference on ammo and a lot more quality range time.
The adage "dude it's not your pistol, it's you," seems to be the case more often than not.
Magic_Salad0892
05-13-10, 11:28
I see this as a Glock for 1911 guys, or a 1911 for Glock guys.
Either way, I'm buying one for my girlfriend now. She saw it.
**** my next paycheck.
Neat. But Im more than satisfied with my Glock the way it is.
The adage "dude it's not your pistol, it's you," seems to be the case more often than not.
Yep. When I can't shoot worth a damn, I always ask more experienced shooters, or instructors, to watch my mechanics. It happened recently at USTC. Detmongo watched me shoot, made two suggestions, and suddenly my pistol started doing what it was supposed to do. :D
Honestly I'm kind of underwhelmed with the details on this model.
I'm running a 3rdGen G17 with the Defoor/Ameriglo sights, grip-tape, and likely a better trigger (the little mentioned 4.5 Ghost "Ranger" connector + 6lb Wolff trigger-spring... shorter and crisper than any 3.5 connector with a better reset, while at the same weight pull or lighter), and stock barrel... pretty sure my gun is close enough to what those guys are running day in day out, maybe closer than this one in some cases.
I've shot many Glocks with aftermarket barrels including the Wilson, none of which beat the stocker by much, if at all from what I've seen... my guess is the aftermarket one's have to get back what you give up with losing the polygonal rifling in the switch before they show much, if any, real gain in terms of accuracy.
JMHO
Honestly I'm kind of underwhelmed with the details on this model.
I'm running a 3rdGen G17 with the Defoor/Ameriglo sights, grip-tape, and likely a better trigger (the little mentioned 4.5 Ghost "Ranger" connector + 6lb Wolff trigger-spring... shorter and crisper than any 3.5 connector with a better reset, while at the same weight pull or lighter), and stock barrel... pretty sure my gun is close enough to what those guys are running day in day out, maybe closer than this one in some cases.
I've shot many Glocks with aftermarket barrels including the Wilson, none of which beat the stocker by much, if at all from what I've seen... my guess is the aftermarket one's have to get back what you give up with losing the polygonal rifling in the switch before they show much, if any, real gain in terms of accuracy.
JMHO
What were you expecting? Different sights, trigger mechanism, and barrel...
What else is there to replace? Sell them pre-stippled? (which would cause Glock to whine about warranty work, out of the box).
I have no need for adjustables, but otherwise, it looks like a great option.
Seems like a good option I guess, don't get me wrong... It's just that yeah, in a signiture model I would like to see something like a special textured grip with the logo or something, it's polymer, it could be stamped out and would offer something beyond what's available... Surprised no one has done it yet really...
Assy Mcgee
05-15-10, 00:38
i noticed on wilson's site that they've offered a glock barrel for quite some time now. however, i've never seen a review on one, so i'm not sure of their accuracy potential. (besides the obvious benefit of being able to shoot lead bullets without the high pressure worries).
not a fan of adjustable sites on a combat pistol either.....
Ga Shooter
05-15-10, 07:19
I have been running a Ghost connector in mine for over a year now and I think I am going to switch back to a 3.5lb connector. The Ghost is incredible but the problem I have is liability. While there is no overtravel at all there really is not "break" in the trigger. What I don't understand is people putting a lighter connecter and a NY (heavier) trigger spring in it. That does not make sense to me as you are increasing the trigger pull.
Robb Jensen
05-15-10, 07:25
I have been running a Ghost connector in mine for over a year now and I think I am going to switch back to a 3.5lb connector. The Ghost is incredible but the problem I have is liability. While there is no overtravel at all there really is not "break" in the trigger. What I don't understand is people putting a lighter connecter and a NY (heavier) trigger spring in it. That does not make sense to me as you are increasing the trigger pull.
A 3.5lb connector and a NY1 spring makes the DA pull feel a lot like a revolver. The first stage of the DA pull is much heaver than stock but the overall break to make the striker fall is about 5lbs if you shoot the gun to reset the reset is much snappier (much more positive). I like mine set up this way. My M&Ps are set up similarly I have Mass. compliant trigger springs with make the first part of the pull heavier but I use an Apex sear, trigger pull to drop the striker is right around 5lbs set up this way but it feels lighter because I mirror polished the working surfaces.
I have been running a Ghost connector in mine for over a year now and I think I am going to switch back to a 3.5lb connector. The Ghost is incredible but the problem I have is liability. While there is no overtravel at all there really is not "break" in the trigger. What I don't understand is people putting a lighter connecter and a NY (heavier) trigger spring in it. That does not make sense to me as you are increasing the trigger pull.
That combo makes the trigger feel more consistent throughout the pull. It feels more like a revolver trigger, as opposed to the very distinct "take up" then "break" stages of the Glock trigger. It remains at the same weight/ resistance throughout.
I tried it out for a while, but just didn't like it.
Edit: just saw that gotm4 already answered this. My bad.
Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of shooters delude themselves into thinking that if they had better gear, they'd be a better shooter. I think many shooters would be better off spending the money for an "upgraded" Glock' or any other model of pistol for that matter, on ammunition and sound practice.
"you cant buy competence"
30 cal slut
05-15-10, 09:40
Of course I see this just having purchased a new Gen 3 Glock 17 last week.
But that's ok. Only a fool would say it was my last G-17.
G17's are like potato chips. You can't just eat one ... or just half the bag. :D
This is interesting, I'll keep my eye on this because all my G17's are in stock configuration.
"you cant buy competence"
You can if you spend it right. Training and ammo cost money, but you'll be a lot better if you buy it. :)
Robb Jensen
05-15-10, 11:02
G17's are like potato chips. You can't just eat one ... or just half the bag. :D
This is interesting, I'll keep my eye on this because all my G17's are in stock configuration.
Exactly soon I'll have 3 Glock 17s. 1 Gen 1, 1 Gen 2, 1 Gen 4. :)
Exactly soon I'll have 3 Glock 17s. 1 Gen 1, 1 Gen 2, 1 Gen 4. :)
I feel the same way about G19s. I have four G19s (1 Gen2 and 3 Gen3s) to go along with me two G17s, one G26 and one G23. And there will be a G20SF added to that list soon :D
Ga Shooter
05-16-10, 15:47
A 3.5lb connector and a NY1 spring makes the DA pull feel a lot like a revolver. The first stage of the DA pull is much heaver than stock but the overall break to make the striker fall is about 5lbs if you shoot the gun to reset the reset is much snappier (much more positive). I like mine set up this way. My M&Ps are set up similarly I have Mass. compliant trigger springs with make the first part of the pull heavier but I use an Apex sear, trigger pull to drop the striker is right around 5lbs set up this way but it feels lighter because I mirror polished the working surfaces.
Thanks for the answer. I always wondered about this but if you like the feel of a wheelgun this makes sense.
if you shoot the gun to reset the reset is much snappier (much more positive).
I actually felt that the reset was too snappy in this config. As in practically pushes my finger forward.
In any case, this gun looks interesting, but it still looks more like something I'd want to run in Production class than for social work. I haven't seen any compelling evidence as to the superiority of adjustable sights over fixed sights for a defensive handgun.
Then again, I suppose I'm not even the target market. But new quality firearms on the market is never a bad thing.
The only reason I ever thought to get a non factory barrel was lead bullets.
I used a Taurus PT99 for the longest till the roll pin came out of the rear sight. After it was "fixed" my adjustable sights were no longer adjustable. There ended my dealings with adjustable sights.
Exactly soon I'll have 3 Glock 17s. 1 Gen 1, 1 Gen 2, 1 Gen 4. :)
betcha don't have a"gen 2.5" 2 pin, light rail?
The only reason I ever thought to get a non factory barrel was lead bullets.
I used a Taurus PT99 for the longest till the roll pin came out of the rear sight. After it was "fixed" my adjustable sights were no longer adjustable. There ended my dealings with adjustable sights.
I think there may be a slight quality difference between what Taurus uses, and what JD and Brian use (Dawson's).
Assy Mcgee
05-17-10, 20:06
I think there may be a slight quality difference between what Taurus uses, and what JD and Brian use (Dawson's).
even the best adjustable aren't as durable as fixed sites.
even the best adjustable aren't as durable as fixed sites.
Yes, and 1911's aren't as reliable as Glocks, but some people still prefer to use them. :D
Apparently the Dawson's are passing muster for TigerSwan, or they wouldn't be on there.
Assy Mcgee
05-17-10, 20:17
Yes, and 1911's aren't as reliable as Glocks, but some people still prefer to use them. :D
i prefer 1911's to glocks, and that's a dissimilar analogy.
Robb Jensen
05-17-10, 20:43
betcha don't have a"gen 2.5" 2 pin, light rail?
Nope I've owned about 30 Glocks and have owned a Gen 2.5 pin fingergroove and rail Glock 17 before.
Just picked up my Glock 17 Gen 4. I did the Jensen-Ready .25 cent polish but use about .75 cents! I added a set of Warren sights (plain rear, tritium front) and a Ghost 3.5lb connector. It came out really nice. I locked the slide back and will leave it that way till next week. I also bought 200 rounds of Federal 124gr FMJ 9mm NATO ammo. When I shoot it at the range I'll shoot that along with 100 rounds of Winchester 9mm 127gr+P+. And then try some slower 115gr, 147gr and 158gr stuff to see how it does. I don't think I'll texture the grip, undercut the triggerguard or remove the fingergrooves. I'll leave this ones frame stock and use it for carry, IDPA SSP-Division and USPSA Production.
I'm on a search for new sights, I'll call you. Th Gen 4 17 is nice-
I'm on a search for new sights, I'll call you. Th Gen 4 17 is nice-
Ameriglo Operators. 'nuff said.
Robb, keep us posted about your Gen4 G17.
Robb Jensen
05-18-10, 08:05
Ameriglo Operators. 'nuff said.
Robb, keep us posted about your Gen4 G17.
Cool will do, next time you're up in NoVA on a Wed or Thurs night we can hit the NRA Range and you can try it out.
Cool will do, next time you're up in NoVA on a Wed or Thurs night we can hit the NRA Range and you can try it out.
Sounds good! I've been trying to catch up with LB but so far we haven't been able to find the time to meet at the NRA range. Maybe the next time I'm up that way we can all meet up, hell, we'll even invite Shivan :p
Voodoochild
05-18-10, 19:01
Yeah but the real question everyone wants to know is what kind of cool guy tactical clothing will they be wearing? I mean do they have beards and will there be any TS man crush going on?
I kid..I kid..Looks like a great setup didn't even know Wilson made barrels for Glock's...Guess you learn something new everyday..
Looks like a great setup didn't even know Wilson made barrels for Glock's...Guess you learn something new everyday..
I didn't know either but I looked them up and damn they seem nice!
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