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VooDoo6Actual
05-23-10, 20:51
redacted.

Oscar 319
05-23-10, 21:19
Glad to see you are down there Hop. There is some seriously evil shit going on "down there" and moving north daily.

PERSEC/OPSEC; no response needed.

Happy hunting, stay safe Brother.

VooDoo6Actual
05-23-10, 21:24
redacted.

Kentucky Cop
05-23-10, 21:50
Sooo, I am behind a bit too. Just a beat cop. Is this footage of the heavily armed cartel moving god knows what north thru Mexican border? Also, are we hiring contractors to help with keeping the border safe?
I have no military backround. Obviously......;Most I watch is border wars.:)

Ky Cop

theblackknight
05-23-10, 21:53
PM sending

Grayling14
05-23-10, 21:56
A picture is worth a thousand words.
I do not often watch the 'formerly mainstream media' news networks due to their left-leaning bias, but I have some relatives who use it as their sole source of national/international 'news'; no wonder they are grossly uninformed. I think if the nightly news broadcasts dared to regularly show such pics, (#1-4), most constituencies would force their elected officials to implement real change, (i.e. serious resource commitment to ensure border security).

thopkins22
05-23-10, 21:58
Thanks for posting these.

Kentucky Cop
05-23-10, 22:07
HOP!

I was just PM'd and explained the situation. My family and I personally support you and your team for what your doing for us on the border. Give them hell down there. I also agree that some of those photos need to make the mainstream news. Most do not even have a clue as to what kind of shit is being hauled across our borders.

Stay safe and keep us up to date.

Ky Cop

chizuck
05-23-10, 22:10
Thanks for protecting our boarders hoploethos and be safe.

jaxman7
05-23-10, 22:16
HOPLOETHOS Godspeed and may political correctness be kicked in the ass wherever you may roam!

John_Wayne777
05-23-10, 22:17
Huh. Wondering what side of the border the blonde was from...and I'm wondering how often one runs into people...in that condition...on the border.

I'm also having a hard time deciding what was in the packs. I wanna say meth, but it could also potentially be coke. Probably meth, though.

mr_smiles
05-23-10, 22:20
Huh. Wondering what side of the border the blonde was from...and I'm wondering how often one runs into people...in that condition...on the border.

I'm also having a hard time deciding what was in the packs. I wanna say meth, but it could also potentially be coke. Probably meth, though.

Marijuana mostly.

thopkins22
05-23-10, 22:22
I'm also having a hard time deciding what was in the packs. I wanna say meth, but it could also potentially be coke. Probably meth, though.

My guess based on the size of those bags would be pot, but it could be heroine or coke. I believe that most meth is made right here in the USA.

John_Wayne777
05-23-10, 22:24
Marijuana mostly.

I know they mule a lot of MJ...and the packaging does look like your standard bulk MJ...but you would think it would be something with a higher profit margin given the number of grows going on on our side of the border.

I'm not a narcotics expert by any stretch as I don't deal with the stuff or the offenders...but I thought Mexico was cooking most of the meth on our streets these days, at least partially because it's a lot easier to get the necessary ingredients in bulk there. Pharma companies in India and other less reputable places will ship massive quantities of the key ingredients to Mexico, IIRC...the US enacted a bunch of laws that makes it harder to do that here.

SKULL1
05-23-10, 22:24
OMG..:eek:

stay safe hops...

mr_smiles
05-23-10, 22:25
My guess based on the size of those bags would be pot, but it could be heroine or coke. I believe that most meth is made right here in the USA.

SE asia and Mexico have meth production on an industrial scale, and can out produce any trailer house setup.

thopkins22
05-23-10, 22:26
Can't believe I missed it...loving the .308 action.

jaxman7
05-23-10, 22:27
Been out of the military loop now for a few years. Could someone enlighten me about the nomenclature in the IR shot in photo #1? Specifically lrf arm and lp arm.

mr_smiles
05-23-10, 22:29
I know they mule a lot of MJ...and the packaging does look like your standard bulk MJ...but you would think it would be something with a higher profit margin given the number of grows going on on our side of the border.

What's the cost to pay some cheap mexican to cross the border with a pack of pot and dumb it on the side of a highway for pickup, probably $100. If only 5% of the drops make it to their destination they've made a nice profit. So called "dirt weed" goes for around $5-10 gram, with higher grade "chronic" mostly grown on the west coast (California, Washington, Oregon) and around Canada goes for $20 or more a gram.

John_Wayne777
05-23-10, 22:30
Been out of the military loop now for a few years. Could someone enlighten me about the nomenclature in the IR shot in photo #1?

Might be best not to say publicly.

Kentucky Cop
05-23-10, 22:30
Been out of the military loop now for a few years. Could someone enlighten me about the nomenclature in the IR shot in photo #1?

I would like to know also. Interesting. Is it from one of the border drones?

Ky Cop

brit
05-23-10, 22:53
Either drones or from the DEA surveillance blimp in between Marfa and Valentine.

Pumpkinheaver
05-23-10, 23:01
Keep up the work boys. This country needs all the help it can get. Glad your out there. Stay safe.

longball
05-23-10, 23:19
Best of luck to you men down there. Thank you and stay safe.

VooDoo6Actual
05-23-10, 23:47
redacted.

tampam4
05-23-10, 23:54
thanks for what you are doing down there HOP. Stay safe and keep up the good work.

Honu
05-24-10, 03:16
What's the cost to pay some cheap mexican to cross the border with a pack of pot and dumb it on the side of a highway for pickup, probably $100. If only 5% of the drops make it to their destination they've made a nice profit. So called "dirt weed" goes for around $5-10 gram, with higher grade "chronic" mostly grown on the west coast (California, Washington, Oregon) and around Canada goes for $20 or more a gram.

someone who works down south said the new thing is to take the wife and kid hostage and make them take it or loose their family ?

quality people huh ! as lefties would say just poor people trying to get a job :( boo hoo

dont know if the kidnapping for mule is true ? but from sources its becoming more common

QuickStrike
05-24-10, 04:29
Thanks and stay safe! Why aren't these pictures on the news?! :mad:

ICANHITHIMMAN
05-24-10, 10:08
You have the best job in the world. I would love to do that. How do I get involved in stoping this?

TOrrock
05-24-10, 10:38
Huh. Wondering what side of the border the blonde was from...and I'm wondering how often one runs into people...in that condition...on the border.

I'm also having a hard time deciding what was in the packs. I wanna say meth, but it could also potentially be coke. Probably meth, though.


The hair could definitely be a result of exposure to UV radiation.

scjbash
05-24-10, 12:51
Thanks for doing what you do Hop. Stay safe down there.

Artos
05-24-10, 13:34
It's been documented down this way where the banditos have killed the coyote (paid human smuggler) and force or bribe the illegals into carrying dope for the cartels. They really don't have any choice as the saying goes: "Plato o Plomo"....silver or lead.

I hunt a 7000 acre ranch just north of the rio grande and we get a lot of traffic coming through our place. Never have any trouble but I think it's due to them just getting started on their journey. My buddies who hunt up around the check points have issues and do run across human remains every now and then. Our game wardens make more busts for dope runners and illegals than they do for game violations.

Hop, if you ever make it to the rio grande valley, shoot me a pm...there's a cold beer wait'n.

D. Christopher
05-24-10, 14:05
Hoploethos,

Thanks for your service and good hunting. I hope you come home without a scratch and with lots of stories to tell to Americans that are largely unaware of what is going on down there. I only wish there were thousands more like you on the front lines with you. All the best.

Jaxman7, here is what you are looking at in the HUD picture. (Giving definitions to these common sensor acronyms doesn’t hurt OPSEC or endanger patrols. If that were the case, Hop wouldn’t have posted the HUD picture, which is the bigger tell of operational capabilities.)

RANGE CAL = Range Calibration
MENU/RECALL = Menu Navigation
LRF ARM = Laser Range Finder On/Off
LP ARM = Laser Pointer On/Off
SAVE = For saving Data Points, Waypoints, Images, etc.
FOV/SENSOR = Field of View/Type of Sensor currently selected

JohnnyC
05-24-10, 15:29
Hop
Glad you're down there. It's a sad situation when my grandmother needs an escort to her cabin because of the illegals. She was a personal friend of the Krentz family and her cabin is close to their ranch. We need more guys like Hop down there kickin' ass and takin' names.

Hop when you're in Tucson hit me up, beers are on me.

jmoore
05-24-10, 17:35
The hair could definitely be a result of exposure to UV radiation.

Though certainly possible, not that likely. The hair appears too uniform in coloration. If I'm interpreting the photo correctly, that is skin on the posterior thorax, and it does not appear to have been bleached out or mummified to the degree that would match hair undergoing sunbleaching to that level of blond. It is interesting that the local fauna haven't snitched the hair for nestbuilding - a common happening. Yes, the skull has been out there long enough to go to complete skeletonization - but skulls often do that early on because they have 4 of the 7 natural bodily openings, and the insects can lay eggs there easily. Those appear to be human ribs in the photo (at least on my lousy monitor - which I am told is bordering on worthless:), but it's hard to tell if they belong to the decedent.

Stay safe!

jm

thopkins22
05-24-10, 17:39
TIf I'm interpreting the photo correctly, that is skin on the posterior thorax, and it does not appear to have been bleached out or mummified to the degree that would match hair undergoing sunbleaching to that level of blond.

I was assuming that it was a shirt.

Safetyhit
05-24-10, 17:39
Though certainly possible, not that likely. The hair appears too uniform in coloration. If I'm interpreting the photo correctly, that is skin on the posterior thorax, and it does not appear to have been bleached out or mummified to the degree that would match hair undergoing sunbleaching to that level of blond.


That is a dried out, sun bleached corpse if there ever was one.


HOP, many of us here wish we could be on your current front line to help in any way possible. You are fighting the good fight yet again.

ryan
05-24-10, 17:43
Honestly guys it really dont matter what that corpse is, the poor bastard is dead RIP. HOP stay safe watch your 6, Thankyou.

Safetyhit
05-24-10, 17:53
Honestly guys it really dont matter what that corpse is, the poor bastard is dead RIP.


The poor bastard? What do you suppose he/she might he have been up to out there?


Anyhow, it only matters in the sense that it is not some blond woman who was lost in the desert or kidnapped and executed there. Almost certainly an illegal in one form or another.

ryan
05-24-10, 17:55
Poor bastardette whatever the case may be I aint trying to argue just head one off

HK51Fan
05-24-10, 18:05
My guess based on the size of those bags would be pot, but it could be heroine or coke. I believe that most meth is made right here in the USA.

You're half correct there. Those big plastic packs are most likely pot. some of the smaller packs and the actual backpacks are more than likely cocaine, heroine, and occasioally MDMA.
As far as Meth being made in the U.S., The truckstop little baggies of meth and such are usually home made.
What the DEA calls Meth in the news is actually MDMA or a similar chem composite, which is chemically similar to Meth and is in the same class as meth. MDMA is used for ecstasy a drug very popular in night clubs, and strip clubs. It's made in bulk in Mexico and then the powder is brought over the border and it's capped in the U.S., typically after it's been stepped on to increase the profit margin...sometimes they'll dilute it so much that the taste is about the only thing still there and then they throw a little heroine in with it to make you feel like your on something. So it all goes hand in hand......bunch of dirty bastards!!!
don't think that all of these "Mexican Drug Runners" are only Mexican. Nope....., no way, there are a lot of ex military from a number of countries running and gunning down there. Hence the reason Hop finds himself chillin out in the country's butthole!

That FALs a perfect weapon for down there. IMO.

Irish
05-24-10, 18:25
What the DEA calls Meth in the news is actually MDMA or forms, which is chemically similar to Meth and is in the same class as meth. MDMA is used for ecstasy a drug very popular in night clubs, and strip clubs.
Why would the DEA call MDMA "meth"? Typically "meth" is referring to methamphetamines ,e.g. crank, speed, etc., and they're vastly different than ecstasy.

kaiservontexas
05-24-10, 18:51
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine = MDMA, it has speed in it.

Oscar 319
05-24-10, 18:53
Most of the real MDMA "Esctasy" comes from Europe, by way of our northern borders (yes, you CANADA :eek:) or smuggled through Customs from travelers or commerce. The real stuff can be difficult to obtain, and mixtures of meth/LSD or other combos/mixtures have been sold as Esctasy.

Meth, specifically crystal methamphetamine, is manufactured in large quantities in Mexico and other areas of Central America where the ingredients (precursors) are easily obtained and go undetected by Government or astute citizens. It is made specifically for sale in the United States.

Clan Labs are rarely encoutered anymore. Bikers may make a few small batches here and there, but the quality is poor and it is difficult and extremely risky to run a full production.

jaxman7
05-24-10, 19:32
D.Christopher copy that on the clarification. I appreciate it!



Hoploethos,

Thanks for your service and good hunting. I hope you come home without a scratch and with lots of stories to tell to Americans that are largely unaware of what is going on down there. I only wish there were thousands more like you on the front lines with you. All the best.

Jaxman7, here is what you are looking at in the HUD picture. (Giving definitions to these common sensor acronyms doesn’t hurt OPSEC or endanger patrols. If that were the case, Hop wouldn’t have posted the HUD picture, which is the bigger tell of operational capabilities.)

RANGE CAL = Range Calibration
MENU/RECALL = Menu Navigation
LRF ARM = Laser Range Finder On/Off
LP ARM = Laser Pointer On/Off
SAVE = For saving Data Points, Waypoints, Images, etc.
FOV/SENSOR = Field of View/Type of Sensor currently selected

thopkins22
05-24-10, 19:41
D.Christopher copy that on the clarification. I appreciate it!

I had most of them, I feel smarter than I probably have any right to now.

HK51Fan
05-24-10, 20:55
Most of the real MDMA "Esctasy" comes from Europe, by way of our northern borders (yes, you CANADA :eek:) or smuggled through Customs from travelers or commerce. The real stuff can be difficult to obtain, and mixtures of meth/LSD or other combos/mixtures have been sold as Esctasy.

Meth, specifically crystal methamphetamine, is manufactured in large quantities in Mexico and other areas of Central America where the ingredients (precursors) are easily obtained and go undetected by Government or astute citizens. It is made specifically for sale in the United States.

Clan Labs are rarely encoutered anymore. Bikers may make a few small batches here and there, but the quality is poor and it is difficult and extremely risky to run a full production.

that may be the case up north, but I know for a fact that's not the case in South Texas. FYI.

There was a large ring operating in Texas outside of San Antonio and they moved to Mexico....and really stepped up production.....take it for what it's worth.

Trajan
05-24-10, 21:19
Thank you for keeping us safe HOPLOETHOS.

jmoore
05-24-10, 23:24
I was assuming that it was a shirt.

Makes a lot more sense if it was a shirt/jacket! (Fiddling with color & resolution is part of the problem with my current monitor, i.e., don't mess with it if you don't know what you're doing:)

Most of the skeletonized bodies I've worked with have not been from arid locations. The timeline to get to complete skeletal remains can be as little as 2-3 weeks in a hot & humid environment. Different factors - especially insects - can alter that quite a bit in the SW. Distance from water determines type and number of flies - a major component of skeletonization.

jm

SpinRC
05-24-10, 23:36
Thanks for the good work Hoploethos, I understand and appreciate it. Stay safe.

kmrtnsn
05-24-10, 23:54
The bundles are marijuana. methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin are not backpacked across the border. MDMA (ecstasy) does not come from Mexico, most of it is Asian sourced by way of Canada. Most coke is entering by way of hidden compartments in tractor trailers; we can't impede free trade and NAFTA. Good quality Mexican methamphetamine comes across in small vehicle hidden compartments, 20-40lbs at a time. Along the Border towns you'll still see "football" loads. Hand sized packages thrown over the fence. Usually heroin and methamphetamine.

Dunderway
05-24-10, 23:54
I know they mule a lot of MJ...and the packaging does look like your standard bulk MJ...but you would think it would be something with a higher profit margin given the number of grows going on on our side of the border.
.

I'm also surprised that MJ would be the major focus of a haul. I've only seen it randomly tossed in to fill the extra space that wasn't taken up by coke or heroine.

Mac5.56
05-25-10, 01:08
edited because there is nothing new to say, and I changed my mind.

Jack-O
05-25-10, 09:07
Sweet trophy pics

Stay safe, check six, stay frosty, we got your back. Prayers sent. Keep your powder dry.

vetted PM inbound.

standsalone
05-25-10, 12:00
we need more qualified guys like you down there handling the situation.
I wish there were more contractors down there and less politically correct guys handcuffing everybody.
sign me up!

Safetyhit
05-25-10, 12:06
Apparently the President has called a high level meeting with certain Republicans today regarding immigration and utilizing the National Guard is the topic of discussion. This came from a good source.

Help may finally be on the way.

Artos
05-25-10, 12:26
This won't be the first time grenades have been recovered by leo in the rio grande valley...NOT the same ole drug trade as some want to think. Sticks in my craw that some want to belittle the overall issue at hand & turn a blind eye as long as it stays in mexico.

http://www.themonitor.com/news/grenades-39036-live-milpas.html

Live grenades found in Las Milpas

PHARR — The McAllen bomb squad is on its way to a report of four live grenades found at a house at 804 East Zavala Avenue in the Las Milpas neighborhood.

Pharr police have the area blocked off and are asking people to stay away from the area.

Fire and EMS personnel are also standing by.

Check back for more details as they become available

Oscar 319
05-25-10, 14:07
Apparently the President has called a high level meeting with certain Republicans today regarding immigration and utilizing the National Guard is the topic of discussion. This came from a good source.

Help may finally be on the way.

BREAKING NEWS on CNN; Obama sending National Gaurd and $500 million allocated to boost LE efforts along border. Nothing posted on web yet.

Irish
05-25-10, 14:32
Nothing posted on web yet.

Here ya go. :) http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/25/obama-deploy-national-guard-troops-mexico-border/

President Obama told Senate Republicans Tuesday that he's read the controversial Arizona immigration law and is concerned it would allow for discrimination -- but is planning to deploy up to 1,200 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border to allay security concerns.

An administration official confirmed to Fox News that Obama plans to request $500 million for "enhanced border protection and law enforcement" and deploy the National Guard troops as needed.

The official said the National Guard would be used to "provide intelligence; surveillance and reconnaissance support; intelligence analysis; immediate support to counternarcotics enforcement; and training capacity until Customs and Border Patrol can recruit and train additional officers and agents to serve on the border."

Velcro
05-25-10, 14:35
for sharing that info.

Velcro

CGSteve
05-25-10, 16:25
I work on the border as well in AZ. In our little part of the border, we hardly ever encounter any drugs other than marijuana out in the field. OFO sometimes get cocaine through the POE but that's about it.

I have always wondered how and where the hard stuff gets through. Realitisically, anywhere and everywhere, but we don't really see it.

GermanSynergy
05-25-10, 18:04
Hop,
Stay safe.

I have a very good friend and former employer (retired SF guy) who lives danger close to the Mexico / AZ border. Some of the things he's told me that take place down there would make the average person's skin crawl.

Artos
05-25-10, 20:12
hop...a question:

If the national guard is effecting and does indeed work intel to thwart narco traffic in AZ...what do you think will be the results of the cartels adjusting to moving dope??

I think this could get very interesting only cuz cartels may be fored to move routes on the south side of the rio where territories are 'established'.

VooDoo6Actual
05-25-10, 20:41
redacted.

Safetyhit
05-25-10, 20:49
2) we are imploding w/ corruption at all levels.


We as in the US? Err...maybe you shouldn't elaborate.

Any quick thought on the NG deployment? Is it a farce or something more proactive?

thopkins22
05-25-10, 20:57
We as in the US? Err...maybe you shouldn't elaborate.

Any quick thought on the NG deployment? Is it a farce or something more proactive?

Well, anytime there's a market worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars it's no surprise that some(many?) are on the take. Particularly a black market.

I'd also be interested to hear your thoughts on this NG deployment. Kind of wondering if they'll be issued ammunition...I recall a story a while back where they were there strictly as observers, and although they had weapons, they had no ammunition and were forced to retreat from their hide.

Safetyhit
05-25-10, 21:31
Well, anytime there's a market worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars it's no surprise that some(many?) are on the take.



I understand, just that he would appear to be going "back and forth" while interacting with all types of folks. Those to the south of us are known for their out of control corruption, but we aren't far behind.

I'll say one thing, working down there on a semi-private basis has got to be the best continental gig to have been going for some time.

VooDoo6Actual
05-25-10, 21:50
redacted.

arizonaranchman
05-25-10, 22:06
Full scale military operation on the border - tens of thousands of troops if necessary. Anything less is a joke. God bless you all for your efforts however. This is a war. It needs to be fought like one. Stay safe...

11B101ABN
05-26-10, 14:45
My guess based on the size of those bags would be pot, but it could be heroine or coke. I believe that most meth is made right here in the USA.

Coke or meth in a package that big would not be man portable. Too dense and heavy.

cosmok
05-26-10, 15:56
Stay safe and watch your six man.

VooDoo6Actual
05-26-10, 17:34
redacted.

Safetyhit
05-26-10, 17:40
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/Mexican-Drug-Cartel-Territories-and.jpg



Very interesting and informative map. Thanks for posting this great information.

Artos
05-26-10, 17:49
Hop...note the green lines. The mexican cartels control all areas of disty compared to the other narcotics. Although pot may be less expensive compared to the others, it is my opinion the profit margins are WAY better when they grow their own inventory compared to buying from another party. I think this is why you see the mules mostly humping it across the border compared to using their noggins and more sophisticated ways to smuggle coke / etc.

This just in and I get at least a couple of these a week in the local paper. Matamoros is at the mouth of the rio grande river across from Brownsville and +/-75- miles southeast of Monterrey to guide you in.

http://www.themonitor.com/news/tamaulipas-39113-hermoso-valle.html

Officials confirm three dead in northern Tamaulipas

Mexican officials have confirmed two executions in Matamoros and one in Valle Hermoso.

According to the Tamaulipas Timely Information Center, authorities are investigating the deaths of two unidentified young men that were found Tuesday morning in the Obrera neighborhood in Matamoros. The two men had been killed by gunfire.

On Wednesday at approximately 6:45, a.m. in Valle Hermoso, authorities responded to a rural area in regards to an unidentified young man that had been shot and showed signs of torture reported the Mexican news organization Reforma.

The body appeared to have several gunshots to the head and to the back. The man had also been shackled and was blindfolded, Reforma stated, quoting Ministerial Police Commander Juan Jose Mancha.

Police found several spent casings of .223 caliber rounds at the scene.

As of 4:30, p.m. Wednesday, the Tamaulipas Timely Information Center had not reported the Valle Hermoso murder.

Ark1443
05-26-10, 18:29
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/Mexican-Drug-Cartel-Territories-and.jpg

I used this very image during my class presentation in World Geography about the border violence.

The teacher, very left, grimaced when I announced my topic. When I was finished however, the class applauded very high and then started talking amongst each other for almost 10 mins about the laws being weak, not enough being done about it by the government, etc, until the teacher changed the subject. I did good on that day. :)

VooDoo6Actual
05-26-10, 20:05
redacted.

Artos
05-26-10, 21:31
i have no doubts the zetas are bad juju but cartel del gulfo will squash them do to overwhelming numbers...the showdown will more than likely happen in Reynosa.

This is why schools are running at 50%:

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/reynosa-39121-stray-bullet.html

Stray bullet injures Reynosa middle school student

REYNOSA — A student was shot during a gun battle that erupted near a middle school Wednesday afternoon.

The girl, whose age was not immediately available that day, was hit in the leg or foot with a stray bullet outside Marte R. Gomez middle school, located near the city’s Petroleros Mexicanos refinery — better known as Pemex.

Reynosa police officer Pablo Ramirez said the girl’s wounds were not serious. No other injuries were reported.

“She was outside during recess,” Ramirez said. “All the other girls were there when it happened.”

Reynosa officials urged the public to avoid Acapulco Avenue after the shooting about 6:30 p.m. via Twitter feed, but offered few details about the incident.

According to the state’s emergency notification website, Tamaulipas authorities discovered two bullet-riddled bodies Tuesday morning in the Obrera neighborhood in Matamoros.

The Mexican news organization Reforma also reported that Valle Hermoso authorities found the corpose of an unidentified man that had been shot and showed signs of torture.

The body seemed to have gunshots to the head and to the back. The man had been shackled and was blindfolded, according to Reforma. Police found several spent casings of .223 caliber rounds at the scene

HK51Fan
05-26-10, 21:31
great last post Hop, this is exactly what I was alluding to in my earlier post. I didn't know how much of this was public knowledge and since I have some close friends working here in TX I decided to be vague. I have a good friend in the FBI, former military, that is getting transferred from NYC down here because of the extent this para drug group has infilled into TX......It's no longer just a border patrol, DEA problem. AFT and FBI are actively involved in TX now as well.

VooDoo6Actual
05-26-10, 21:37
redacted.

Kentucky Cop
05-26-10, 23:33
Lets get some media down there to cover this on Dateline or 60 minutes. Get the cameras some footage of this carnage of rape, murder, and shootouts with the local LE. Let that shit hit prime time TV by a major network and end the show by saying "OUR" government sent 1200 troops to the area.

This is ridiculous. I am speechless after reading the last few posts. Take care HOPS!

KY COP

kry226
05-27-10, 06:26
Zetas captured arsenal cache...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/Zetas2.jpg

You may not know, but are those Class III ARs?

John_Wayne777
05-27-10, 07:45
You may not know, but are those Class III ARs?

I can't tell from the pics....but I think I can say with reasonable certainty that they aren't buying their RPG's, grenades, and belt-fed machine guns from gun shows in the US.

Moose-Knuckle
05-27-10, 08:41
As a native Texas resident and LEO let me say stay safe and give them hell brother.

There are reasons why the founding fathers of this state kicked that country's ass. But today our elected officials invite their president to come and tell us how we don't need our 2nd Amendment rights and somehow if we ban guns his country will be safer all the while condemning states rights to protect their borders...makes the blood boil in my veins.

This nation has gone to war for less. The US Mexico border ought to be declared a DMZ and militarized ASAP.

Daemonbane
05-27-10, 08:48
If I were a betting man, I'd say those were the weapons they were issues while either training in the US or serving with the Mexican Military.

I'd also say that it's anyone's game when it comes to Zetas versus the Gulf cartel, but I'd only going off of what I've seen on the History Channel program Gangland and various news stories so it's hardly a complete opinion.

Keep sharp out there, Hoploethos.

VooDoo6Actual
05-27-10, 10:50
redacted.

Moose-Knuckle
05-27-10, 11:36
The beautiful Sonora Desert...(pics sent to me by a friend from AZ)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/AZillegaltrash1.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/AZillegaltrash2.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/AZillegaltrash3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/AZillegaltrash4.jpg

Looks like a landfill... Maybe the limp wrists should jump on the issue due to the impact that illegals have on the environment.

VooDoo6Actual
05-27-10, 11:46
redacted.

Artos
05-27-10, 13:18
Let's not forget that one of AZ main problems is the amount of federal land that borders mexico & is protected...this currently prohibits motorized enforcement for much of the border.

I would love to see some data of the arrests on govt property.

kry226
05-27-10, 13:54
I can't tell from the pics....but I think I can say with reasonable certainty that they aren't buying their RPG's, grenades, and belt-fed machine guns from gun shows in the US.

Roger. Just curious.

VooDoo6Actual
05-27-10, 14:20
redacted.

Artos
05-27-10, 16:16
this made the hair on the back of my neck stand to...my guess is both CDG and Zeta leadership will see the results within hours of completion. How can they even trust their superiors?? Scary stuff...

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/05/600-mexican-police-confined-for-drug.html

600 Mexican Police Confined for Drug Probe


Monterrey, NL - All of the roughly 600 members of the Monterrey police department were confined to their stations without prior notification and will have to undergo screening to determine whether they have ties to drug traffickers, the mayor of Mexico’s industrial capital said Monday.

The army and Nuevo Leon state police will be in charge of law enforcement in the city during the two-day lockdown.

The army determined that the Monterrey police department has been infiltrated by organized crime groups and many of its officers work for Los Zetas, a band of special forces deserters turned outlaws.

Several municipal cops have been arrested in recent months for carrying out kidnappings on behalf of drug cartels.

“Each one of the officers on the force will be subjected to five evaluations,” Monterrey Mayor Fernando Larrazabal said.

“We understand that this will be a bitter time, especially for the good police officers, who are the majority,” the mayor said.

“We cannot let the bad behavior of some officers, who in recent days have stained the name of the force, stain the work of all police,” Larrazabal said.

The department’s 14 command-level officers and approximately 600 patrolmen will have to undergo five tests, including psychometric exams, antidoping tests and polygraph examinations, the mayor said.

Officials expect to have the results of the screenings on Friday, when they will determine who remains on the force and who gets sacked.

Officers who refuse to take the tests will be summarily discharged from the force, Larrazabal said.

The Monterrey police department is about 100 officers under its full operating strength.

A total of 180 police officers have been fired by the city’s current administration for “loss of confidence.”

Artos
05-28-10, 11:56
I can't tell from the pics....but I think I can say with reasonable certainty that they aren't buying their RPG's, grenades, and belt-fed machine guns from gun shows in the US.

I hope they put this one under the jail & really surprised the anti's don't have this all over the front pages. I feel you are correct and most of the weapons are not from the u.s. but greed is a terrible thing.


Be careful when cruising this site...it does have graphic photos:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/05/marine-corp-reservist-charged-with.html

Marine Corp Reservist Caught Attempting To Export Assault Weapons.

Last week on the morning of Thursday, May 20, border patrol agents on duty near the south Texas brush country town of La Pryor encountered a pickup truck stopped on the side of the road due to mechanical problems. This area is approximately 50 miles from the border with Mexico.

Agents became suspicious after observing that the truck had sustained substantial damage, and the two occupants of the vehicle made conflicting statements.

A Border Patrol canine alerted agents to the rear of the pickup where weapons were found hidden inside a load of plywood in the bed of the truck.

The vehicle was transported to the Uvalde Border Patrol Station for intensive inspection. Agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives responded to the Uvalde Station to launch an investigation.

Agents found 52 AR-15 assault rifles, 4 AK-47 assault rifles, 1 SKS rifle, 1 Ruger Mini-14 rifle, 1 FN Fal assault rifle and 49 high-capacity rifle magazines.

Soon after, the driver of the pickup, Cristobal Riojas, 29, a Marine Corp reservist and native of Dallas, Texas was arrested and charged by criminal complaint with unlawfully attempting to export firearms. If convicted, Riojas faces up to 10 years in federal prison and a maximum fine of $250,000.

Federal judge denies bond

A week later on Wednesday, May 26, Riojas appeared in federal court in Del Rio, Texas for a detention hearing before U.S. Magistrate Judge Victor R. Garcia.

Judge Garcia listened to testimony from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Special Agent Jose Mendoza, who reviewed Riojas’ detention by the Border Patrol and described a series of seven photos taken during the search of the truck Riojas was driving.

Some of the photos show the rifles and magazines, which were wrapped in green cellophane and stashed inside a compartment cut out of the load of plywood in the bed of the truck.

Mendoza, answering questions posed by Assistant U.S. Attorney Ben Seal, also testified Riojas was arrested while he was a juvenile on state charges of burglary, criminal trespass and marijuana possession.

Cross-examined by Riojas’ attorney, Heather Fisher of Denton, Mendoza said Riojas readily provided agents with his driver’s license and his military identification showing that he is a member of the United States Marine Corps Reserves.

Mendoza said Riojas readily allowed the search of the truck, while a passenger, identified as Erika Amaya of Carrollton “lawyered up” – refused to talk to agents – and was later released.

Following the testimony, Seal argued that Riojas posed “a danger to the community.”

“A person who possesses 59 assault rifles in an illegal manner, that person poses a danger to the community,” he said. “These were not hunting weapons. . . (these types of) weapons are made for . . . the specific purpose of killing another person.”

Seal further argued that Riojas posed a special danger because he was allegedly trying to “transport those guns to Mexico,” into “an area filled with drug-related violence,” and charged that the weapons would eventually have been used to protect routes along which drugs are transported.

Fisher countered that Riojas is not a flight risk, pointing out to the court that he has not been to Mexico since he was 11 years old.

She asked that Riojas be released on a personal recognizance bond.

“We do not feel he is a danger, (and) the United States Marine Corps does not think so as well,” Fisher said. “(Riojas) is trusted by the government, and that should carry some weight.”

Immediately following the presentations by the two attorneys, Garcia ordered Riojas detained without bond pending trial and remanded him to the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service.

VooDoo6Actual
05-28-10, 12:29
redacted.

GermanSynergy
05-29-10, 13:26
I can't tell from the pics....but I think I can say with reasonable certainty that they aren't buying their RPG's, grenades, and belt-fed machine guns from gun shows in the US.

More likely corrupt and/or compromised Mexican military personnel. I'm wondering if any Venezuelan AK-103's have been showing up... :mad:

m4fun
05-29-10, 20:40
HOP - outstanding post(s) - extremely informative. Stay safe out there - doing the will.

This really needs to get out and will try what I can. Forget about our safety, humanity, sanctity of our nation - we should rile up the tree huggers and environmental whackos to get this fixed!

Artos
05-29-10, 21:48
this really says alot...i gotta stop watching the news.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/29/obama-arizona-governor-dont-ill/

Obama to Arizona Governor: Don't Call Me, I'll Call You

President Obama has turned down Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer's request to meet while she's in Washington next week as tensions mount between his administration and Arizona over the state's new law cracking down on illegal immigrants.

Brewer will be in Washington to meet with other governors. She said Friday that she had asked to meet with Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to discuss border security and immigration. But Obama's schedule "doesn't allow for a meeting" with her, White House spokesman Adam Abrams said, adding that the president "does intend to sit down with the governor in the future."

When Obama returns from his Chicago vacation on Tuesday, he will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Peru President Alan Garcia at the White House. On Wednesday, Obama is meeting with Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, before heading to an event in Pittsburgh and hosting a concert at the White House to honor Paul McCartney.

On Thursday, Obama will speak at Secretary Clinton's reception for a new partnership between U.S. and India. On Friday, the president will welcome the Major League Soccer men's championship team, Real Salt Lake, to the White House.

The apparent snub comes after Justice Department officials told Arizona's attorney general and aides to the governor Friday that the federal government has serious reservations about the state's new immigration law. They responded that a lawsuit against the state isn't the answer.

"I told them we need solutions from Washington, not more lawsuits," said Attorney General Terry Goddard, a Democrat.

The Justice Department initiated separate meetings by phone and face-to-face in Phoenix with Goddard and aides to Brewer to reach out to Arizona's leaders and elicit information from state officials regarding the Obama administration's concerns about the new law.

The strong message that the Justice Department representatives delivered at the private meetings -- first with Goddard, then with Brewer's staff -- left little doubt that the Obama administration is prepared to go to court if necessary in a bid to block the new law, which takes effect July 29.

Goddard said he noted that five privately filed lawsuits already are pending in federal court to challenge the law.

"Every possible argument is being briefed," said Goddard, who is running unopposed for his party's nomination for the governor's race.

Brewer, who is seeking re-election, later said in a statement that her legal team told the Justice Department officials that the law would be "vigorously defended all the way to the United States Supreme Court if necessary."

Brewer, who has hired private attorneys to represent her in the pending cases, said the department officials "were advised that I believe the federal government should use its legal resources to fight illegal immigration, not the state of Arizona."

Key provisions of the sweeping law include a requirement that police enforcing any other law question people about their immigration status if there is "reasonable suspicion" that they are in the country illegally. It also makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally.

Arizona has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants, and the law's supporters contend it will save taxpayer money and reduce crime by pressuring illegal immigrants to "self-deport."

Federal officials and other critics fear the state law could lead to widespread racial profiling.

Goddard said it would be wrong to assume that Arizona law enforcement officers would not act in a fair and highly professional manner."

The federal officials' trip to Phoenix also was an effort to see if the two sides can find common ground in the debate, which has reignited immigration as a major political issue nationwide.

A number of other states are considering laws similar to Arizona's.

Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller noted that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder met with a number of police chiefs Wednesday in Washington "to hear their concerns about the impact of the Arizona law on their ability to keep communities safe.

"We continue to have concerns that the law drives a wedge between law enforcement and the communities they serve and are examining it to see what options are available to the federal government," Miller said.

While numerous police chiefs have criticized the law, several Arizona associations representing rank-and-file police officers support it.

VooDoo6Actual
05-30-10, 20:45
redacted.

Artos
05-30-10, 21:24
My brother hop,

I learned early on that I had to be careful to with whom I shared such pics with...I became quite immune to the graphic nature as I dove into the narco culture. I Sent one to an leo buddy without putting a warning in the subject line and caused a restless night for one of his kiddos when he opened my email while he was on is lap. It really hit home for me.

While I wouldn't call M4 a family site by any means with the language we use, I would suggest we consider the innocent eyes looking over our shoulders amigo.

That can be pretty heavy for some.

Paul

VooDoo6Actual
05-30-10, 22:43
redacted.

Chuck
05-31-10, 17:50
Artos,
The question comes down to should or should not M4C be a family friendly place.
I think not.
Adults need a venue where they can learn of and discuss topics freely.
Control your children, not the free dissemination of information.

thopkins22
05-31-10, 18:21
Artos,
The question comes down to should or should not M4C be a family friendly place.
I think not.
Adults need a venue where they can learn of and discuss topics freely.
Control your children, not the free dissemination of information.

Agreed. The concerns are understood, but I for one appreciate Hoploethos posting the reality of what's going on and around the border.

Artos
05-31-10, 19:29
I have no problem w/ the said pics...i receive lots of them as I keep up with this constantly. Hop and I are on the same page with the situation overall.

I'm no prude if they are fine with the gang. I just worry about what is safe for work for the other members in these cases... Just seems a graphic warning might save a headache for some members.


Carry on...


Good stuff hop...I'll be going across later in the week.

Avenger29
05-31-10, 22:50
Lets get some media down there to cover this on Dateline or 60 minutes. Get the cameras some footage of this carnage of rape, murder, and shootouts with the local LE. Let that shit hit prime time TV by a major network and end the show by saying "OUR" government sent 1200 troops to the area.

This is ridiculous. I am speechless after reading the last few posts. Take care HOPS!

KY COP

60 Minutes? Dateline? Make no mistake, the mainstream media isn't interested in telling the truth about the border and illegal immigration.

Furthermore, if they did tell the truth, and mentioned the 1200 soldiers, I'm willing to bet that many of the public would think 1200 soldiers would be a large number and capable of handling the problem. Much of the general public has no idea how few 1200 soldiers is, how large the border area is, or that the troops will (more than likely) be unarmed and thus defenseless, not to mention end up doing "support work" instead of being on the front lines.

Artos
06-01-10, 07:59
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/monterrey-39302-city-officials.html

2 Mexican government officials kidnapped in Monterrey

MEXICO CITY — Two senior officials from the local government of Monterrey were kidnapped within 24 hours, authorities said Monday, the latest sign of deteriorating security in Mexico's most affluent city.

The northern industrial hub was until recently relatively free of the drug-trafficking violence engulfing other parts of Mexico. But warfare between gangs is now taking its toll in Monterrey and its tony suburbs.

Both kidnapped officials ran the city's transportation department, which controls roadways, truck routes and car registrations, a division that would make a desirable asset in a drug lord's empire.

Heavily armed gunmen used vehicles to barge through the front gates of the home of Enrique Barrios Rodriguez, city transportation secretary, about 3 a.m. Monday, officials said. The assailants seized Barrios and bundled him out of his Elite Hills neighborhood.

Residents told reporters that the electricity on the street went out shortly before the abduction.

About 24 hours earlier, Reynaldo Ramos, operations chief of the department, was snatched from his home not far from where Barrios lived.

Mayor Fernando Larrazabal said he did not think either man had received specific threats.

"All we know is ... they were taken from their houses by people not yet identified," Larrazabal said at an impromptu news conference outside City Hall. "Given the gravity of this case, the state prosecutor's office is handling the investigation."

The mayor said both officials had drivers but no bodyguards. He would not say why security for Barrios, a former federal congressman, was not stepped up after the abduction of Ramos.

Outside Barrios' home, pieces of an electric garage door could be seen, toppled on the ground, and people thought to be his relatives were packing up and leaving. The kidnappers also took Barrios' SUV and a BMW.

Monterrey, capital of Nuevo Leon state, had traditionally been relatively quiet in part because top drug traffickers moved their families there, taking advantage of the city's prestigious schools and hospitals. But as the notorious Zetas gang has fought to challenge the dominance of its onetime patron, the Gulf cartel, gun battles, kidnappings and other violence have spread.

In the first 4 ½ months of this year, as many people were killed around Monterrey as in the two previous years combined.



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http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/us-state-department-warns-of-alliance.html

US State Department Warns of Alliance Between Zetas and Federal Police

A confidential report issued by the US State Department warns the Mexican government of a complicity of a new alliance between the criminal group Zetas and the commission Secretariat of the Federal Public Security (PFP), Genaro Garcia Luna and other senior officers of the Preventive Federal Police.

It is alleged the Zetas were to make payoffs of sums of millions dollars in order for the federal police to implement an all out offensive through a mega operation against members of the Gulf Cartel.

Such alliance, according to the confidential report, was reached between Miguel Angel Treviño Morales, aka "Z-40," and mediated by a close relative who forms part of ranking members of the federal police agency, which calls for them to conduct operations to capture or kill his enemies.

Despite the fact that the Federal Police had been replaced in the direct fight against organized crime by elements of the Sedena and the Navy because they had lost trust and for suspected of being infiltration by organize crime and corruption, the federal police in full complicity with the Zetas is preparing to wage an all out offensive against the Gulf cartel in the border cities of Reynosa, Matamoros, Miguel Alemán, Camargo, Mier, Nueva Ciudad Guerrero y Díaz Ordaz (known as Frontera Chica).

This is according to the confidential U.S. report, which was obtained from statements given by a sicario that had been captured in the "frontera chica" and is one of the closest associates of Z-40.

As a result of this, the Federal Preventive Police in an unusual way has established bases of operation in "Hotel Tío Luz" in the town of Miguel Alemán, while in Camargo they have set up a base in "Hotel Arturo's." This new offensive was authorized by Genaro García Luna and senior officers of the PFP, after Morales Treviño through his family/contact used the excuse to blame the Gulf Cartel for recent killing of two highway officers in the municipality of China, Nuevo León.

He also blamed the Gulf Cartel for the abduction of police officers in Cadereyta, a zone controlled by the Zetas, this is alleged information provided by El Flaco, a lieutenant for Z-40.

However, the above remains unsubstantiated, because since early last week, following the incursion of elements of the Secretariat of National Defense who discover a lair of the Zetas located in the community of Vallecillos, Nuevo León, where in addition to confiscating an arsenal of weapons, they also found the badges of the officers killed by this criminal group.



The U.S. Department of State has offered a reward of $5 million for information leading to the arrest of Treviño Morales. It has been established that since 2008 this has been Treviño Morales' modus operandi to eliminate his enemies, even the very members of the operational structure of the Zetas, including his own boss Heriberto Lazacano Lazacano Alias El Lazca.

The files from the federal agency of the United States reveal that Treviño Morales has conducted reprisals and executions of members from within the same organization and the ranking structure of the Zetas.

First, he hired a sicario to execute Efraín Teodoro Torres "Z-14" or "La Chispa" who was in charge of the plaza in the state of Veracruz.

Then, using the assistance of his connection from the family member working within the ranks of the Federal Police, he provided information that eventually reached the Deputy Attorney Specialized Investigation of Organized Crime (SIEDO) of the Attorney General of the Republic, that resulted in the arrest of Luis Reyes Enriquez alias “El Rex” or “Z-12”, in the municipality of Atonilco El Grande, in the central state of Hidalgo.

At the same time, Morales Treviño finding himself displaced as a second in command to Heriberto Lazacano by Daniel Perez Rojas alias "El Cachetes" and assigned to control the movement of drugs from Central America to Mexico through Guatemala. El Z-40 filtered information about the whereabouts of Rojas to federal authorities so they could capture him.

Daniel Perez Rojas was one of the original 31 former military Special Forces Airmobile Group (GAFE) who deserted to form Los Zetas, the armed wing of the Gulf Cartel. Rojas was finally arrested by the Civil National Police of Guatemala.

"El Cachetes" received training thanks to the Mexican Army on psychological warfare and special operations, most was provided at the military base in Fort Bragg, USA. He established himself as one of the key men next to Heriberto Lazcano, the current leader of the Zetas. He joined the expansion plans of the organization to operate in Latin America.

Authorities admitted that this explains the presence of "El Cachetes" in Guatemala, or at least until he was betrayed by Treviño Morales. Since the end of 2008 Miguel Angel Treviño "Z-40" provided information through his cousin that included phone numbers and codes from radios of communication of Jaime González Durán aka "El Hummer," who was ultimately located and arrested by Federal Police in Reynosa.

Similarly, in November 2009, using the same method he leaked information to the PFP that facilitated the capture of Sergio Enrique Ruiz Tlapanco, alias "El Tlapa," principal operator of the Zetas in the states of Veracruz, Tabasco and Puebla.

In this way Treviño Morales intended to gain absolute power of the Zetas, he also planned to eliminate his top leader, Heriberto Lazcano.

To do this, with the help of federal authorities in exchange for millions of dollars, he was planning the capture Heriberto Lazcano, when he convened a meeting of the top officers of the Zetas in the ranch of El Atorón in the state of San Luis Potosi.

The Federal Preventive Police then mounted an operation to capture Heriberto Lazacano dead or alive, however the leader of the Zetas managed to escape and evade arrest.

During the flight to evade arrest a personal confident of Lazca and manager of la plaza of San Luis Potosi named Pedro fell into a ravine and his body was found three days later.

In that same raid the federal police managed to arrest "El Chiricuas" who was a lieutenant and right hand of Heriberto Lazcano, as well as another subject who went by the name of "Paguas Grande," a high ranking Zeta.

In the absence of leadership in San Luis Potosi Morales Treviño appointed another man of trust nicknamed "El Cachorro" who retains control of the city.

Following the raid, Lazcano currently is experiencing a state of paranoia from persecution, which has caused problems within the organization, mainly with Miguel Angel Treviño Morales and his body guards, due to the extreme measures Lazcano has adopted in fear of being betrayed by "Z-40" that might eventually lead to his arrested or to be killed, the report said.

VooDoo6Actual
06-01-10, 08:19
redacted.

VooDoo6Actual
06-01-10, 08:40
redacted.

d90king
06-01-10, 09:03
Hop, keep doing what you are doing and above all STAY SAFE!

Thank you for the honest assessment of the current crisis on our border!

VooDoo6Actual
06-01-10, 09:39
redacted.

jklaughrey
06-01-10, 11:42
Good deal Hop I think everyone that travels OCONUS should get the state dept. risk assessment. Not to mention all CDC risk factors when going on trips. Just being prepared and keeping your wits helps a lot. On another note Hop, good work down there. I was attached to a unit from 5th Mar. that assisted in drug interdiction on the border in 93/94. Nothing like lying in the dirt waiting for drug mules to walk in or fly in across the border. We worked as support for the feds but still a good experience. PS I hate El Centro reminds me of Hell with good iced tea.

Cold Zero
06-01-10, 18:08
http://www.yumasun.com/news/cross-61393-luis-immigrants.html

May 31, 2010 12:11 PM
CESAR NEYOY - BAJO EL SOL
SAN LUIS RIO COLORADO, Son. - SB 1070, which takes effect July 29, may not stop the flow of illegal immigration, as illegal immigrants say they will try to find some other way to cross.

This is the view of illegal immigrants who are deported and are waiting for another opportunity to cross the border from San Luis Rio Colorado, Son.

Pedro Noel Bojorquez, an immigrant from the Mexican state of Sinaloa, said SB 1070 “is an inhumane law. Many of us want to cross so that we can work. Immigrants founded that country. Why is there such hatred toward us? Things are getting worse instead of getting better.”

Pedro crossed to the U.S. on May 17, and he was deported to Mexicali on the following day. This situation is not new to him. Since 1982, he has been going back and forth but said he has found it harder to cross in recent years and fears that it will only get harder to do so.

“If I cross over through here (Arizona), I run the risk of being detained. If I go through Mexicali, I run the risk of being stopped by the police, mugged or picked up by 'bajadores', then the Border Patrol and the police here again. There are many obstacles.”

The new obstacles facing illegal immigrants in Arizona make him more cautious.

“I will cross again but not through Arizona, maybe through California. I think it may be easier there. I hope things there don't become as hard as in Arizona, because I don't know what will happen then.”

Pedro was interviewed while he was having breakfast at Casa del Migrante, a shelter in San Luis Rio Colorado where deportees can eat, shower and spend the night.

They can spend up to three days while they decide whether they will keep trying to cross to the United States, return to their families or find work somewhere other than their hometown, where Pedro said there are few work opportunities.

Another deportee, Juan Cervantes, said he has been deported more than 60 times but will continue trying to come to America. “I've worked (in the U.S.) for 27 years. If I can cross and can stay, I will find a job with a company in San Diego.”

“You know when I'm going to stop trying to cross? When I die. I'm going to try to cross again tomorrow or the day after.”

Juan, who is from the Mexican state of Guerrero, said SB 1070 has made Arizona the worst state for immigrants. “They are wrong if they think we are going to stop trying to cross. I've lived there half of my life. I'm not afraid.”

For others like Fidel López, these bad experiences have made him stop trying to make it to America.

“I don't want to hear anything about the United States anymore. Wednesday was the last night I tried to cross and I almost died,” he said.

Fidel jumped the fence in San Luis but had to return because the Border Patrol was following him. When he jumped back over into Mexico, he slipped and injured his face.

His family raises cattle in the Mexican state of Guanajuato. Fidel said he decided to cross illegally into the United States because he wanted a better life. Instead, he said he found hatred toward immigrants.

“This law only empowers those who don't want us there,” he said.

Jorge Luis Mendoza, who is waiting at Benito Juárez Park in San Luis Río Colorado so that he can cross through Los Algodones or Tecate, Baja Calif., agrees with Fidel and adds that in the long run, legislation such as SB 1070 will impact the U.S.

“They don't accept the fact that without illegal immigration they lose productivity. Americans don't do those kinds of jobs.”

“They are blaming us for their problems and all they are doing is generating hatred,” Jorge Luis said. He explained that he was deported Wednesday after being detained in El Centro.

“Arizona is the most racist state, but they are already feeling the consequences because businesses are closing and the only thing that is coming is more crisis for them and more problems for us.”

Belmont31R
06-01-10, 18:32
Thanks for fighting the good fight, and wish those putting their lives on the line for the rest of us got more national praise than the zilch they get now.


I certainly appreciate it!

austinN4
06-01-10, 19:21
Pedro Noel Bojorquez said he has found it harder to cross in recent years and fears that it will only get harder to do so.
"Things are getting worse instead of getting better."
"If I cross over through here (Arizona), I run the risk of being detained. If I go through Mexicali, I run the risk of being stopped by the police, mugged or picked up by 'bajadores', then the Border Patrol and the police here again. There are many obstacles."

As it should be! Sounds like 1070 is starting to work. :D

mattjmcd
06-01-10, 20:36
Pedro Noel Bojorquez said he has found it harder to cross in recent years and fears that it will only get harder to do so.
"Things are getting worse instead of getting better."
"If I cross over through here (Arizona), I run the risk of being detained. If I go through Mexicali, I run the risk of being stopped by the police, mugged or picked up by 'bajadores', then the Border Patrol and the police here again. There are many obstacles."

As it should be! Sounds like 1070 is starting to work. :D

Amen. Sucks to be you, Pedro.

VooDoo6Actual
06-02-10, 00:18
redacted.

tampam4
06-02-10, 00:22
video link was removed, but knowing liveleak I'm sure it was very nice!:D

Artos
06-02-10, 09:38
sad...pretty cute gals too:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/alleged-execution-of-three-young-girls.html

Alleged Execution of Three Young Girls in Piedras Negras



Alleged Execution of Three Young Girls in Piedras Negras
Wednesday, June 2, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Buggs

Piedras Negras, Coahuila - The abductions and executions that for more than a month have shaken the border city of Piedras Negras have not subsided. All this violence coupled with the daily street shootings and local missing local businessmen just add to the growing list and it's specifically tragic in the recent disappearances and possible execution of three young girls in this city.

With a possible linked to organized crime, these girls held relationships with powerful young narcos. It is believed that after the disappearance of these girls about a week ago, they were executed in the city of Nuevo Laredo by either their boyfriends or sicarios that are rival enemies of the "Zetas" in that state.

Olga Herhard, Edna Saucedo and another friend identified as Noelia, left Piedras Negras for what appeared to be a normal weekend and according to relatives were going for a ride to San Antonio Texas, but their real plan was totally different. They actually went to Nuevo Laredo to visit a boyfriend of one of them, but he turned out to be an narco who was having a casual romance with one the girls.

The days went by and the girls failed to return to their homes. Family made constant calls to the girls cell phones but they got no response. The parents and friends started to fear for them, who now believed that Olga, who has a month-old girl, Edna and Noelia, may have fallen victims to those who had promised love, wealth and comfort that only organized crime can offer.

The unofficial information hints of a possible abduction and subsequent execution of the young ladies, after authorities received several reports from Nuevo Laredo that point to a location where they found three mutilated bodies that were burned. The bodies had all the apparent characteristics of the missing girls.

May the Lord have mercy on their souls and comfort to their families.

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crap!!

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/147-assault-rifles-seized-in-laredo.html

147 Assault Rifles Seized in Laredo Texas

joint operation between the Laredo Police Department and the Webb County Sheriff’s Office resulted in the seizure 147 fully automatic AK-47 assault rifles, 263 high capacity magazines, 53 bayonets and 10,000 rounds of ammunition on Saturday, May 30 in the border city of Laredo Tx.

This city is located across the Rio Grande from Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, a stronghold of the powerful Zeta drug cartel.

This is the second large seizure of assault rifles in South Texas within the last 2 weeks (see “Marine Corp reservist caught attempting to export….” on this site)

It is believed the weapons were in the process of being illegally exported into Mexico.

According to authorities, the Laredo Police Department initiated a traffic stop on a van after receiving a tip from the Webb County Sheriff’s Office Crime Stoppers Division. The Sheriff’s office had received anonymous information that the van was transporting illegal contraband.

The vehicle was stopped heading east on International Boulevard. The passenger of the vehicle, who has not been identified, attempted to flee on foot before being apprehended. Officers then discovered the arms cache inside the van.

In a press conference on Tuesday announcing the seizure, local and federal authorities said this was the largest assault rifle bust in the U.S within the last 10 years.

“Certainly, in the wrong hands, the devastation could have been incredible,” said LPD Chief Carlos Maldonado. “All you need to do is look at the news accounts from Mexico. You’ll see that this is comparable (to) a lot of weapons being used in Mexico.”

"I think this demonstrates more than anything else that we are responding to protect our citizens, protect our borders and protect this great country of ours,” added the Chief.

“This is going to create a big blow to the narco-trafficking because we believe it was heading south,” said Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar.” they are having a lot of trouble over there at this point...getting a hold of these arms."

“This is something long term, because federal agencies are involved. We can’t discuss the mechanics of it yet.” Stated Sheriff Cuellar

A federal investigation is ongoing.

Moose-Knuckle
06-02-10, 09:53
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/147-assault-rifles-seized-in-laredo.html

147 Assault Rifles Seized in Laredo Texas

joint operation between the Laredo Police Department and the Webb County Sheriff’s Office resulted in the seizure 147 fully automatic AK-47 assault rifles, 263 high capacity magazines, 53 bayonets and 10,000 rounds of ammunition on Saturday, May 30 in the border city of Laredo Tx.

This city is located across the Rio Grande from Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, a stronghold of the powerful Zeta drug cartel.

This is the second large seizure of assault rifles in South Texas within the last 2 weeks (see “Marine Corp reservist caught attempting to export….” on this site)

It is believed the weapons were in the process of being illegally exported into Mexico.

According to authorities, the Laredo Police Department initiated a traffic stop on a van after receiving a tip from the Webb County Sheriff’s Office Crime Stoppers Division. The Sheriff’s office had received anonymous information that the van was transporting illegal contraband.

The vehicle was stopped heading east on International Boulevard. The passenger of the vehicle, who has not been identified, attempted to flee on foot before being apprehended. Officers then discovered the arms cache inside the van.

In a press conference on Tuesday announcing the seizure, local and federal authorities said this was the largest assault rifle bust in the U.S within the last 10 years.

“Certainly, in the wrong hands, the devastation could have been incredible,” said LPD Chief Carlos Maldonado. “All you need to do is look at the news accounts from Mexico. You’ll see that this is comparable (to) a lot of weapons being used in Mexico.”

"I think this demonstrates more than anything else that we are responding to protect our citizens, protect our borders and protect this great country of ours,” added the Chief.

“This is going to create a big blow to the narco-trafficking because we believe it was heading south,” said Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar.” they are having a lot of trouble over there at this point...getting a hold of these arms."

“This is something long term, because federal agencies are involved. We can’t discuss the mechanics of it yet.” Stated Sheriff Cuellar

A federal investigation is ongoing.

Yeap, those must have been purchased from an individual private sale at a gun show... :rolleyes:

Heartland Hawk
06-02-10, 12:50
Great Thread. Very informative. I use the LP/OP slides and map in my briefings as well.

I think the populace at large has no idea how deadly the southern border has become. I am down on the AZ border on a regular basis, and the violence is increasing, and the drug seizures are increasing as well. Talk to ANY rancher on the border. the area is reaching critical mass.

dookie1481
06-02-10, 13:36
You may not know, but are those Class III ARs?

It unfortunately looks like quite a few of those are carbines w/ 16" barrels. Not likely military :mad:

Jay

EDIT: Clearly a lot of that is military stuff. Just commenting on the pic itself.

jaydoc1
06-02-10, 21:22
Met my wife on a church missionary trip from Harrisonville, MO to Piedras Negras. She was thirteen, I was 16. Now I'm 40. Things have changed a bit since then. We walked all over town.

Cold Zero
06-03-10, 11:07
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Mexico-opens-California-office-to-provide-ID-for-illegals-95434969.html


Only in California so far. Will they open branch offices all over the country......

ChrisL
06-03-10, 20:17
FYI

Those photos from page one are NOT from a bordering Arizona/Mexico county. They were taken 60+ miles north of the border.

Artos
06-05-10, 10:46
hmmm...think they are trying to squeeze any info out of this??

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/san-39491-navy-mexican.html

Mexican navy arrests two Zeta accountants

A financial manager and accountant for the Zetas were arrested in the last week in two separate operations conducted by the Mexican navy, according to a news release from military officials.

Raul Amberto Padilla, 32, from San Fernando, Tamps., Mexico, was taken into custody Wednesday night at a stash house in the city of San Pedro Garza Garcia in Nuevo León, the news release states. Padilla, who services as a financial manager for the Zetas criminal organization, was then flown late Thursday night to Mexico City, where he is expected to face a federal judge who specializes in organized crime.

Padilla was apprehended during a raid in which Mexican sailors searched three houses.

The first raid took place at the Residencial Satelite neighborhood, where authorities arrested Padilla, the news release states. Officials said the first incursion resulted in the seizure of two vehicles, an all-terrain vehicle, communication equipment and an undetermined amount of cash.

Padilla is accused of managing the funds for the Zetas in the San Pedro region, according to the news release.

During the second raid, sailors stormed a nearby house and arrested Omar Melesio Berjano Lescas, 35, of Sonora, Mexico, and Enrique Padilla Mendoza, 40, of Nuevo León, Mexico, the news release states. The sailors also seized one SUV, a small cache of firearms, communication equipment and military uniforms.

The third raid took place in the Country neighborhood, where sailors arrested 21-year-old Erick Humberto Gomez Mendez, of Monterrey, and seized two SUVs, various handguns, communication equipment and a small bag of marijuana.

The arrest of Padilla is the second blow to the financial operations of the Zetas’ criminal organization in six days.

In a separate operation on May 29, the Mexican navy arrested Hipolito Bonilla Cespedes, 52, who is accused of being the personal accountant to Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, the leader of the Zetas, the news release states.

Bonilla was arrested in the town of Guadalupe, N.L., Mexico, during a raid on a stash house, according to the news release. The Mexican navy seized an undetermined amount of cash and arrested Bonilla’s two assistants, Maritza Gonzalez Olivares, 21, and Jesus Gilberto Gonzalez, 50. The navy also arrested Bonilla’s bodyguard Francisco Alejandro Ibarra Aguilar, 26, who is also a local police officer.

VooDoo6Actual
06-05-10, 15:22
redacted.

d90king
06-05-10, 17:59
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/ArizBillboard.jpg

Priceless!:D

Caeser25
06-05-10, 19:29
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/02/la-school-district-teaches-az-law-is-un-american/

Los Angeles Students to Be Taught That Arizona Immigration Law Is Un-American
By Jana Winter

Published June 02, 2010
| FOXNews.com

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This article was updated on June 3. See update at the end of the article.

The Los Angeles Unified School District school board wants all public school students in the city to be taught that Arizona's new immigration law is un-American.

The school board president made the announcement Tuesday night after the district's Board of Education passed a resolution to oppose the controversial law, which gives law enforcement officials in Arizona the power to question and detain people they suspect are in the U.S. illegally when they are stopped in relation to a crime or infraction.

Critics of the law say it will result in racial profiling.

The school board voted unanimously on Tuesday to “express outrage” and “condemnation” of the law, and it called on the school superintendent to look into curtailing economic support to the Grand Canyon State. About 73 percent of the students in the school district are Latino.

But supporters of the law say the school board is way out of bounds and that the measure will just distract from the children's education.

“This is ridiculous, it’s ridiculous for us to be involved in Arizona law,” said Jane Barnett, Chairman, Los Angeles County Republican Party. “There is a 50 percent dropout rate in some parts of the school district—is this going to keep kids in school?”

According to its press release, "The Los Angeles Board of Education also requested that Superintendent Ramon Cortines ensure that civics and history classes discuss the recent laws with students in the context of the American values of unity, diversity and equal protection for all people.”

"America must stand for tolerance, inclusiveness and equality,” said Board President Monica García, according to the release. “In our civics classes and in our hallways, we must give life to these values by teaching our students to value themselves; to respect others; and to demand fairness and justice for all who live within our borders. Any law which violates civil rights is un-American."

In an e-mail to FOXNews.com, school district spokesman Robert Alaniz elaborated:

“The Board of Education directed the Superintendent to ensure that LAUSD civics and history classes discuss the recent laws enacted in Arizona in the context of the American values of unity, diversity, and Equal Protection for all. Much like a number of controversial periods and laws that are part of our history and are currently taught including:

-- Slavery

-- Jim Crowe laws and segregation

-- Native American reservations

-- Residential schools (for Native Americans)

-- The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882

-- Anti-Irish racism in the 19th century

-- Racism against immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe in the 20th century

-- Anti-Semitism

-- Internment camps for Japanese Americans during World War II

-- The Mexican Repatriation Program (1929-1939)."

The school district resolution also opposed another new Arizona law that bans schools from teaching classes that promote the overthrow of the government or advocate ethnic solidarity.

The school board called on Arizona's leaders to reverse both of these “misguided” new laws, the press release said.

The board said the laws “effectively sanction and promote unconstitutional racial profiling and harassment,” and “blatantly violate the civil rights of both Arizona residents and all visitors to the State.”

They said Arizona’s new laws also “severely restrict the education of all children in Arizona by refusing to incorporate vital sections of history that incorporate the contributions of this country’s many diverse groups.”

The superintendent was also asked to investigate ways to curtail contracts with Arizona-based businesses and district travel to the state.

"We need to do everything in our power to help our students be global citizens, develop appreciation for the diversity in our midst, and reject any forms of racism or bias," said Board Vice President Yolie Flores. "This resolution highlights our commitment to ensuring that our students understand the ideals and constitutional rights that this great country is founded on, while also gaining an appreciation of the histories and cultural contributions of those who have helped build this nation."

“It is a sad day in America when the rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution are trampled upon under the color of law and authority,” said LAUSD Board Member Martinez. “Everyone, regardless of their status in the United States, has the right to equal protection under our laws. These Arizona laws are nothing but a knee-jerk backlash resulting from the lack of a comprehensive and well thought out immigration reform policy.”

The LA County Republican chairwoman said she’s been inundated with phone calls, e-mails and Facebook messages from people all over Los Angeles who say their school district has no business meddling in another state’s laws when they’ve got so many problems of their own to deal with.

“This is really crazy,” she said. “Everybody is upset about this.”

Barnett called the school board resolution a “pathetic stunt” that distracts educators from what they should be focusing on: educating the students.

“This is nothing we should be involved in. Let the courts deal with this,” she said. “We need to keep out of other people’s states’ business.”

Nathan Mintz, the founder of the South Bay Tea Party and the Republican nominee for the 53rd State Assembly seat.

“This is just another example of these embedded bureaucrats in California doing anything they can to deflect and distract from the poor job their doing of educating our children,” said Nathan Mintz, the founder of the South Bay Tea Party and the Republican nominee for the 53rd State Assembly seat.

He said attacking Arizona’s immigration law is just “a distraction from the key issue of educating the kids in our schools.”

“We support Arizona,” Barnett said. “In fact, I think we ought to go there right now for vacation.”

______

UPDATE: On June 3, The Los Angeles Unified School District Board of Education offered the following official response to this article:

“The Board of Education has directed the Superintendent to ensure that LAUSD civics and history classes discuss the recent laws enacted in Arizona in the context of the American values of unity, diversity, and Equal Protection for all. This very important piece of current events would be taught in our classrooms along with a number of controversial periods and laws which are a part of our history and are currently being taught including: slavery; Jim Crow laws and segregation; reservations and residential schools for Native Americans; The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882; the anti-Irish racism in the 19th century; racism against immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe during the 20th century; anti-Semitism; internment camps for Japanese Americans during World War II and the Mexican Repatriation Program during the 1930s.

Let’s remember that these laws were all deemed as “necessary” (in some cases for the security of our nation) during particular times in our history. To ignore what is currently happening in Arizona would be total denial of current events and a part of our history. At the very least it’s a discussion that should take place in the classroom.”

Artos
06-05-10, 20:10
this was on borderlandbeat...


Renewing the Mexican police...Is it possible?

by Lourdes Cardenas for the El Paso Times and Danica Coto A.P.

Mexican President Felipe Calderón has the support of most of the state governors to replace local police departments with unified state police forces so the government can better fight unrelenting drug violence that has claimed nearly 23,000 lives since he took office in 2006.

On Thursday, Calderón announced that he is ready to introduce a Constitutional reform bill that would create 32 state police forces, each one operating under a unified command. Pending a cost analysis, Calderon intends to present it to Congress when it resumes session in September.

According to Mr. Calderon, unified state police forces would allow the government to have a better knowledge and control of the police, create mechanisms to carry out routine examinations to officers and providing more effective training and coordination to fight against organized crime.

So far, the military and federal police have led the war against drug cartels launched shortly after Calderon took office in December 2006.

"We want a safe Mexico in which there is no room for the fear, violence and impunity that we suffer today," Calderon said.

The idea makes sense. Currently, Mexico has more than 2,400 municipal police forces, which are not necessarily coordinated or integrated into a state or national body. In many of these little police departments, the agents receive no training or equipment enough to do their job.

The mayor of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico's deadliest city with 2,601 drug-related killings reported last year, backed Calderon's proposal and said municipal police are often easy prey in small, close-knit towns.

"The more (a police officer) knows, the more he becomes known," Jose Reyes Ferriz said. "All this makes him more vulnerable to criminals."

Teresa Incháustegui, a federal legislator from the leftist Partido de la Revolución Democrática (PRD) has said that only five percent of the law enforcement officers in the country meet the minimum requirements -in terms of training and equipment- to face organized crime.




The majority of those municipal police officers receive a monthly salary of less than $300, according to Public Safety Secretary, Genaro García Luna. In some areas of the country, their salary is even less than $100 per month. Poorly paid officers are an easy prey for corruption, García admitted in a meeting with federal legislators in the beginning of the year.

Part of the goal is to root out corruption by replacing these generally low-paid, poorly educated local police, who are seen as more susceptible to bribery and intimidation by the powerful cartels.




In Calderon’s view, a unified police would help to solve many of the problems that municipal and state police forces face every day. But most important, it would facilitate coordination in the areas of intelligence, investigation and crime prevention.

The government is also proposing to create a national crime database that would include information on kidnappings, stolen cars and prisoners. A separate database would contain photos of all police officers, their fingerprints and other identifying details.


It does sound good in paper. The problem, however, is in the many questions on implementation of the proposal.

What is to become of the more than 400,000 current municipal police officers? Are they going to be integrated into the state police forces? How are they going to clean up the current state police forces? Are better salaries and working conditions enough to deter corruption? How can they guarantee that the high state commands won’t be corrupted? How long will it take –if it happens– to restore the public’s confidence in the police corps? How will the government guarantee the police’s forces accountability?

Let’s not be pessimistic. Let’s think that these reforms could be a good beginning, but if we are realistic, to have a reliable and capable Mexican police force could take more than one generation to happen. Maybe the children of our children shall be the one to see the results.

5pins
06-05-10, 22:52
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/ArizBillboard.jpg

Shouldn’t that be in Spanish?:D I think it would work better.

Mac5.56
06-06-10, 22:50
Priceless!:D

photoshoped.

Artos
06-07-10, 08:19
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/o...els-padre.html


Valley officials learn lessons on drug cartels


SOUTH PADRE ISLAND — More than 300 members of the law enforcement community gathered on South Padre Island last week to get the latest information about drug cartels and gangs in Mexico.

Several topics were discussed during the session, including the spread of the cartels into the United States, their organizational structure, ongoing struggles and the use of emblems and tattoos to identify organizational affiliation.

The Palmview Police Department hosted the seminar, which featured an intelligence expert with more than 35 years of experience. For security reasons his name was withheld.

Agencies in attendance included the Brownsville Police Department, Cameron County Sheriff’s Department, FBI, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Texas Department of Public Safety, as well as various sheriff’s departments and police departments from throughout the state.

“This is designed to help the law enforcement community stay informed,” said Palmview police spokesman Sgt. Jason Arms. “The speaker has a wealth of information that will give us a better idea of things to look out for such as tattoos, colors, signs, anything that can help keep officers safe.”

Because much of the information discussed is classified, details of the meeting were not disclosed.

In a lighthearted discussion, those in attendance learned about the continued use of the “Grim Reaper” or “Santa Muerte” in pendants or as car stickers by members of organized crime.

According to the speaker, drug traffickers, predominantly those aligned with the Zetas criminal organization, have a deep devotion to the Grim Reaper. In some raids at stash houses, authorities have found shrines to the Grim Reaper on top of the drugs, he added.

In addition to the Grim Reaper, the speaker also warned about certain emblems from luxury cars or famous sport brands that are being used by criminal organizations. The specific emblems and brands were deemed sensitive and could not be released to the public.

“This is for those of you who conduct traffic stops. Nowadays you don’t know who you might be stopping,” he said, advising those in attendance to take extra precaution when encountering those symbols.

The intelligence expert also talked in detail about the cartels’ organizational structure and how it differs from the Zetas.

Most cartels, such as the Gulf, Sinaloa, Tijuana and Beltran-Leyva cartels, have a familial structure, with power being passed from father to son or between brothers, cousins or others with family ties, he said. The Zetas, on the other hand, have a military structure where power is passed by rank rather than family ties, he said.

In addition to the cartel seminar, Arms said he is working to host more training seminars for Valley police departments. In August, Palmview police will host a special training course for police dogs

VooDoo6Actual
06-07-10, 13:43
redacted.

Heartland Hawk
06-07-10, 16:04
Great Pics Hop! Keep them comming. Thanks for pitching in and stay safe.

Caeser25
06-07-10, 17:05
2 men shot to death in volatile area near Casa Grande

http://www.azfamily.com/news/2-men-shot-to-death-near-where-Pinal-Cty-deputy-was-wounded-95782179.html

by Catherine Holland

Posted on June 7, 2010 at 10:06 AM

PINAL COUNTY -- Deputies are on the scene of an apparent double homicide near milepost 150 on Interstate 8, which is west of Casa Grande.

Crime scene techs were just arriving on the scene at 9:30 a.m. so information was still quite limited.

According to Lt. Tamatha Villar of the Pinal County Sheriff's Office, the call came in late Sunday night. Villar said the man who called said he and a friend had been shot out in the desert.

This is the same general area where Deputy Louis Puroll was shot, allegedly by drug smugglers, more than a month ago.

The communications center lost when cell service apparently dropped out. Crews were sent out to try and locate the caller. Those searchers found the bodies of two men who had been shot to death. Detectives had to wait for daylight before they could begin their investigation.

Villar said that area is a "primary corridor for human and drug smuggling" and that unfortunately the deadly shooting is "not something that's completely unexpected given the volatility of the area right now".


Posted on April 30, 2010 at 5:18 PM

Updated Sunday, May 2 at 2:27 PM

Pinal County deputy shot near Casa Grande

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Authorities-seeking-wounded-Pinal-deputy-92556204.html


CASA GRANDE - Authorities have apprehended 17 illegal immigrants inside the search perimeter after a police deputy was shot in the abdomen with an AK-47 on Friday.

Thee of the 17 individuals reportedly match the description provided by 53-year-old Deputy Louie Puroll. The three people are bieng interviewed by investigators.



According to Pinal County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Tammy Villar, rescuers found Deputy after an hour-long search through a remote span of desert near Interstate 8 and Arizona 84, some 50 miles south of Casa Grande. Villar said rescuers found Puroll by using the GPS coordinates from his cell phone.

According to Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, Puroll had been following a group of five men who were transporting drugs. One of the suspects allegedly hid while the others moved on, and Puroll continued to follow the group. Around 4:00 p.m. the suspect ambushed Puroll and shot at him, grazing his left side above his abdomen.

"They've become more aggressive," Babeu said, referring to the ambush. "They're always armed, but we've never had this happen."

Babeu said Puroll returned fire, and the deputy believes he hit the suspect who shot him.

Puroll, who has been with the Pinal County Sheriff's Office for 15 years, was released from Casa Grande Regional Hospital Friday evening after being treated for the wound.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/Copy138MilemarkerPinalCounty.jpg


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/CopyofPinalMaricopaCounty5-17-10060.jpg

Why Green?

Artos
06-07-10, 17:11
Why Green?


Are you talking about the BP uniforms??


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Hop,

There are unconfirmed reports of the military striking the zetas hard on the outskirts of Reynosa. This is coming from landowners and plant managers in the area.

Keep an eye on the blogs...

Artos
06-08-10, 20:50
borderlandbeat has some jems for those keeping up...

Marines Executed in Piedras Negras, Coahuila


Tuesday, June 8, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Gerardo


A blog based in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico is claiming that 2 marines were executed and a third marine abducted by gunmen along the Texas-Mexico border in Piedras Negras, Coahuila.

According to the information posted, the incident occurred at approximately 5 PM on Sunday, June 6 as the soldiers ate at the restaurant “La Estrella” on Roman Cepeda street.

The 3 marines were attacked by an unknown group of gunmen who fired at close range. The bodies of the 2 dead marines were thrown into the back of the gunmen’s pickup and taken away. The third wounded marine was kidnapped by the criminals. His fate remains unknown.

A detachment of marines is in Piedras Negras and is leading operations against members of organized criminal groups. The attack was in all likelihood an act of retaliation by a band of narcos against these marine operations.

Mexico's marines have acted as the government's primary strike force in operations against the drug cartels. Previous successes have included the raid that resulted in the death of Arturo Beltran Leyva, head of the Beltran Leyva cartel, in December 2009as well as the seizure of huge arms caches and the arrests and deaths of other important drug cartel figures this year.

On Monday a naval aircraft flew over the city as rescue operations and searches for weapons and drugs throughout the city continued. More clashes are expected as public threats have been issued by organized crime groups.

Civil authorities warned the population of Piedras Negras not to frequent night clubs or to remain on the streets late at night due to these threats. A formal curfew has not been imposed.

Feelings of outrage and sorrow were expressed by the inhabitants of the city against the criminals who perpetrated the attacks against the marines.

It is acknowledged that organized criminal activity in the Piedras Negras plaza is under the control of a particularly strong faction of the Zeta drug cartel.

The incident has been confirmed by the naval ministry according to the blog source.

Another violent incident also occurred early Sunday morning in Piedras Negras in the “Casino Oasis”.

In this attack a grenade was thrown inside the casino which is located next to the Quality Inn hotel. A panic ensued among the audience and a woman suffered shrapnel wounds.

In another action by marines along the U.S-Mexico border 2 members of the Zeta drug cartel were apprehended in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas. They were identified as Hugo Homero Garcia of Nuevo Laredo and Alberto Aguilar Toledo from Santiago Laollaga, Oaxaca.

Cold Zero
06-09-10, 06:24
For anyone interested in this topic. Be sure to watch Sean Hannity's show Friday night, they will be discussing the Border in depth.

No doubt the murders that took place this week just west of Casa Grande will also be discussed. The lack of LE Patrol in that area, has turned it into a combination Combat Zone, Garbage dump and illegal entry crossing point for UA's and Drugs.

tampam4
06-09-10, 08:34
Border Patrol Agent Shoots 15-Year-Old Boy At Bridge
06/ 8/10 09:50 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/border-patrol-agent-shoot_n_604358.html?page=32&show_comment_id=49784832#comment_49784832


CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico — A U.S. Border Patrol agent fatally shot a 15-year-old Mexican boy after a group trying to illegally enter Texas threw rocks at officers near downtown El Paso, U.S. authorities said Tuesday.

The shooting, which happened Monday evening beneath a railroad bridge linking the two nations, drew sharp criticism from Mexico, where President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his goverment "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement.

It was the second death of a Mexican at the hands of Border Patrol officers in less than two weeks, and the case threatened to swell into a full-blown international incident when U.S. and Mexican officials traded suggestions of misconduct.

Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua Attorney General's office, said a spent .40-caliber shell casing was found near the body – raising the question of whether the fatal shot was fired inside Mexico, although he did not explicitly make that suggestion. That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side of the border.

A U.S. official, meanwhile, said video shows the Border Patrol agent did not enter Mexico.

The official, who agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name, said the video also shows what seem to be four Mexican law enforcement officers driving to the edge of the dry but muddy bed of the Rio Grande, walking across to the U.S. side, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico near the area where the boy's body was. Like their U.S. counterparts, Mexican law officers are not authorized to cross the border without permission.

According to the FBI, Border Patrol agents were responding to a group of suspected illegal immigrants being smuggled into the U.S. near the Paso Del Norte bridge, across from Ciudad Juarez around 6:30 p.m. Monday.

One suspected illegal immigrant was detained on the levee on the U.S. side, the FBI said in a statement. Another Border Patrol agent arrived on the concrete bank where the now-dry, 33-feet (10-meter) wide Rio Grande is, and detained a second suspect. Other suspects ran back into Mexico and began throwing rocks, the FBI said.

At least one rock came from behind the agent, who was kneeling beside the suspected illegal immigrant who he had prone on the ground, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons said.

The agent told the rock throwers to stop and back off, but they continued. The agent fired his weapon several times, hitting one who later died, said the FBI, which is leading the investigation because it involved an assault on a federal officer. The agent was not injured, Simmons said.

Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Ramiro Cordero said preliminary reports showed Border Patrol agents on bicycle patrol "were assaulted with rocks by an unknown number of people."

"During the assault at least one agent discharged his firearm," he said. "The agent is currently on administrative leave. A thorough, multi-agency investigation is currently ongoing."

The U.S. State Department said in a statement that it regretted "the loss of life" and directed all further questions to the FBI and Border Patrol.

Chihuahua state officials released a statement Tuesday demanding a full investigation into the death of the boy, identified as Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka.

The boy was shot once near the eye, Sandoval said. Authorities are still investigating the bullet's trajectory, he said.

Sandoval said he couldn't comment on the video reported by the U.S. official because he didn't know anything about it.

"I am unaware about those hypotheses," he said. "What I can tell you is that there is an ongoing investigation."

Sandoval said investigators were questioning three teenagers who were with the victim at the time of the shooting.

The boy's sister, Rosario Hernandez, told Associated Press Television News that her brother was playing with several friends and did not plan to cross the border.

"They say that they started firing from over there and suddenly hit him in the head," she said Monday.

His father, Jesus Hernandez, asked for justice during the boy's wake at the family's two-room adobe house attended by some 30 friends and relatives.

"They killed my little boy and the only thing I ask is for the law" to be applied, Hernandez said sobbing.

Earlier Tuesday, the boy's mother, Maria Guadalupe Huereka, told Milenio TV in Mexico that her son had gone to eat with his brother, who handles luggage at a border customs office. While there, he met up with a group of friends and they decided to hang out by the river, she said.

"That was his mistake, to have gone to the river," she said. "That's why they killed him."

She said he ran and hid underneath one of the bridge's pillars upon hearing gunfire.

"He was a boy, and even then they killed him," she said. "I ask that they punish them. ... They left me without anything."

Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said its records indicate the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over.

T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents are common and capable of causing serious injury.

"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.

The violence in Mexico combined with assaults on Border Patrol agents in the U.S. has increased the level of apprehension agents have about their safety, Bonner said.

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastacio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico.

Last week the San Diego medical examiner's office ruled that death a homicide.

___

Associated Press Writer Christopher Sherman reported this story from McAllen, Texas, and Olivia Torres from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico.

(This version CORRECTS size of spent shell to 40 caliber instead of 40-mm.)

Oscar 319
06-09-10, 10:18
President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his goverment "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."


A wise leader would urge his citizens it would be a good time to stay off the border a NOT throw rocks at armed men.

Calderon is starting to remind me of another corrupt politician....

http://cdn.wn.com/ph/img/7a/7c/496e7919ea4429178ef77de2166d-grande.jpg

500grains
06-09-10, 10:41
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/500grains/claymore.jpg

Moose-Knuckle
06-09-10, 10:59
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/NukeOrbit.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1MspmfEwg&feature=player_embedded

VooDoo6Actual
06-09-10, 15:05
redacted.

500grains
06-09-10, 18:37
The bull dyke is incompetent.

Agile53
06-09-10, 18:57
Amen 500grains & Hop that mod on the front is outstanding.

Safetyhit
06-09-10, 19:01
The bull dyke is incompetent.


Off all of his useless buffoons, I truly believe she is by far the worst.

Extremely sad to see her in such a critical position.

VooDoo6Actual
06-09-10, 21:51
redacted.

500grains
06-09-10, 21:58
"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.


No.

The Mexican entered the U.S. illegally. He is a foreign invader. THAT justifies use of deadly force, period. The rocks are just icing on the cake.

Artos
06-10-10, 09:49
Monterrey a Battleground after Top Zeta Captured


Thursday, June 10, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Gerardo



Hector Raul Luna Luna aka "Tori", the head of the Zetas drug cartel for the state of Nuevo Leon was arrested by the Mexican Army in the city of Monterrey, after which armed attacks and road blockages occurred throughout the city. El “Tori” worked under Miguel Trevino Morales (L-40), one of the top 2 leaders of the Zeta drug cartel.

The Ministry of Defence, SEDENA, confirmed the arrest after a confrontation with the military.

According to neighbors, “el Tori” was captured around 4:30 PM in a house located in the Barrio Colonia Estrella in northwest Monterrery.

Minutes after his detention, a military convoy supposedly repelled an attack by gunmen, after which about 5:30 PM a series of blockades were thrown up by armed street gang thugs who hijacked buses, tractor trailers, cars and pick-ups throughout the metropolitan area.

The vehicles were then placed at main intersections across the roadways in order to block access. Some of the main roadways such as Fidel Velazquez had up to different 4blockages in place.


In the avenues Miguel German and Las Americas up to a dozen public transport buses were taken at gunpoint and used for the blockages. This area was particularly affected as gang members armed with steel bars and guns threatened civilians and hijacked their vehicles en masse.

Many vehicles used in the blockages had their tires shot out or were otherwise damaged to make the task of removal more difficult.

A total of 19 streets and intersections were affected.

Areas of the city most affected were Monterrey proper and the suburbs of San Nicolas, Santa Catarina and Guadalupe.

Traffic flow was severely disrupted and reports describe a city in chaos
.
At many of these points, the authorities took more than three hours to react and were kept busy until after 8:00 PM.

Officers of the State Investigation Agency (AEI) were given the task of removing these obstacles, Highway and transit police allegedly received threats from gunmen and the city of Monterrey made a decision to quarter all municipal police.

Gun battles were heard throughout the city. In the Gonzalitos area the ministerial police headquarters were attacked by gunmen. Also attacked was the municipal police headquarters in the suburb of Garcia where several injuries were reported..

There were unconfirmed reports that the U.S. Consulate may have also been targeted.

Dirk Williams
06-10-10, 10:31
This thread has been a real eye opener for me. I knew it was not good down there in Texas and AZ but this is insane.

Are we at war with criminals, or the entire mexican government. It appears that the mexican government is not real stable.

My wife 1st cousin is CAO of Wal- Mart in Mexico and Central America. He keeps inviting us down to Mexico city for a vacation. Ive told my wife I think this is a very bad idea, mexico is not a place to be if your a white guy right now.

He rides around in armored up war wagons and has guards 24-7. I worry about his saftey daily.

Good work guys.

D Williams

d90king
06-10-10, 11:13
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/TacoClaymore1.jpg



http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2010/me_gulf0487_06_03.asp

Janet Napolitano offers to help put stop to illegal border crossings — in Saudi Arabia

The United States government, which has difficulty controlling its own borders, has agreed to help Saudi Arabia secure its dangerous border areas near Yemen.

"It is a very rough border, very difficult to protect from illegal crossings," U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said.
In late May, Ms. Napolitano met Saudi leaders to discuss a range of security programs, including training, joint exercises, intelligence and arms sales. Officials said both the Americans and Saudis agreed that the Iranian-backed Shi'ite insurgency from Yemen was the leading threat to Riyad.

Officials said Riyad and Washington were expanding cooperation in protecting the kingdom's borders from insurgents and smugglers, Middle East Newsline reported. They said the biggest threat was the Shi'ite insurgency in neighboring Yemen, which shares a 1,600-kilometer border with Saudi Arabia.

Officials acknowledged that thousands of Yemenis were infiltrating Saudi Arabia despite recent border security measures. They said many of the Yemeni infiltrators were smugglers.

"So many of our discussions were about how to protect a very tough, geological, topographical border from illegal crossings," Ms. Napolitano said during a visit to the Saudi kingdom on May 31.

Officials said Saudi Arabia and the United States were also expanding their intelligence exchange. They said the expansion began during the Yemeni Shi'ite war in southern Saudi Arabia in November 2009, which included the capture of two Saudi towns.

"We all share a concern about terrorist activity emanating from Yemen," Ms. Napolitano said. "Actions of the U.S. in Yemen are with the consent, cooperation of the government of Yemen."

Officials said the U.S. military was modernizing the Saudi Arabian National Guard as well as Interior Ministry security forces. They said Riyad has ordered hundreds of millions of dollars worth of air- and ground-based reconnaissance equipment to monitor the desert border with Yemen.

Another area of consultation has been the Al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which operates in both Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Officials said most of the AQAP leadership was comprised of Saudi nationals.

"The security coordination is very strong with Saudi Arabia," Ms. Napolitano said.

PS: You can't make this shit up, the truth is stranger than fiction



PATHETIC! In so many ways.

Kentucky Cop
06-10-10, 12:33
Thats awesome that we have video of the shooting......AND the mexican officials creeping over onto our side to "retrieve" items after the shooting. I am glad they sent the video to Mexico and hopefully they told them to go get F'ed!

I hate to say this, but if we start shooting at people more that attempt to cross our border I would think that many of them would second guess trying to screw with our BP and agents on the line. Just saying...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgCIl7c7XpM here is the shooting footage

KC

VooDoo6Actual
06-10-10, 12:57
redacted.

Artos
06-10-10, 13:33
wow!!

Drug charges against Sullivan City police chief unsealed

June 10, 2010 11:57 AM
Jeremy Roebuck
The Monitor

McALLEN – Sullivan City Police Chief Hernan Guerra Jr. faces multiple counts of conspiracy and drug possession, according to a federal indictment partially unsealed Thursday.

FBI agents arrested Guerra on Wednesday while conducting a simultaneous raid of his office at the Sullivan City police department but remained tight-lipped throughout the day about the nature of the allegations against him.

On Thursday, federal investigators confirmed his arrest came as part of a nationwide sweep of more than 2,200 suspects believed to have played a role in aiding the operations of Mexican drug cartels in the United States.

Dubbed “Project Deliverance,” federal agents detained nearly 430 individuals – including Guerra -- in 16 states on Wednesday and seized more than $5.8 million, 141 weapons and several tons of drugs, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said during a press conference in Washington D. C.

Federal prosecutors along with agents from the FBI, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection, the Marshals Service, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the Internal Revenue Service participated in the nearly two-year investigation.

“Our aim was not to target just cartel operations, but the networks of individuals across the United States the cartels tap to distribute drugs in our country and smuggle cash and guns out of it,” he said. “This operation as struck a significant blow against the cartels, but make no mistake: we know that as successful as this operation was, it was just one battle in what is an ongoing war.”

According to the indictment in Guerra’s case, the police chief was part of a conspiracy that moved at least two tons of marijuana through the Rio Grande Valley over the past year. Investigators have not yet disclosed the exact nature of his suspected involvement.

Guerra’s attorney – Oscar Alvarez – did not immediately return phone calls for comment Thursday morning.

Pending the outcome of his case, the police chief has been placed on administrative leave, Sullivan City City Manager Rolando Gonzalez said Wednesday. Investigator Eloy Treviño has been named to lead the department in the interim

Safetyhit
06-10-10, 15:00
McALLEN – Sullivan City Police Chief Hernan Guerra Jr. faces multiple counts of conspiracy and drug possession, according to a federal indictment partially unsealed Thursday.



Ahhh, this........this is just so.......


If the main stream media continues to ignore ultra relevant things like this, all circumstances considered, then when an actual pro-American President gets back in office many of them should be tried for Treason. May not be realistic, but ideally...

This specifically because they are actually going out of their way to avoid a great news story with truly negative national security implications simply to further their insane agenda. It may be their right to do so, but it almost gets to the point of aiding and abetting.

Even if it doesn't, fu*k the liberal MSM anyway. We have too much to lose, people need to get mad and be proactive. Vote, write letters, make calls. Tell the networks what you think. Do something to make a difference, no matter how small.

Artos
06-10-10, 15:34
Ahhh, this........this is just so.......


If the main stream media continues to ignore ultra relevant things like this, all circumstances considered, then when an actual pro-American President gets back in office many of them should be tried for Treason. May not be realistic, but ideally...

This specifically because they are actually going out of their way to avoid a great news story with truly negative national security implications simply to further their insane agenda. It may be their right to do so, but it almost gets to the point of aiding and abetting.

Even if it doesn't, fu*k the liberal MSM anyway. We have too much to lose, people need to get mad and be proactive. Vote, write letters, make calls. Tell the networks what you think. Do something to make a difference, no matter how small.



According to the indictment in Guerra’s case, the police chief was part of a conspiracy that moved at least two tons of marijuana through the Rio Grande Valley over the past year. Investigators have not yet disclosed the exact nature of his suspected involvement.


Sullivan City is a spec on the map...two yellow blinking lights on HWY 83. between Mission and Rio Grande City. It's known as a speed trap & where they get lots of revenue from a couple of patrol cars. Very small and sits on the river. The terrain is perfect for moving goods undected. Sadly, this is not causing a huge stir in the rio grande valley. Just like the northern border of Mexico, we've become numb to corruption and presense of dope to some degree. Nothing like Mexico but sad nontheless. We should be screaming for his head instead of shrugging and waiting for the next one. My guess is he had no choice and picked "plato over plomo".

I would love to see some follow up on this from the other states affected. 400+ arrests in 16 states?? Sounds like this is a HUGE ring they busted up with LOTS of hours invested!!

Caeser25
06-10-10, 17:34
A wise leader would urge his citizens it would be a good time to stay off the border a NOT throw rocks at armed men.

Calderon is starting to remind me of another corrupt politician....

http://cdn.wn.com/ph/img/7a/7c/496e7919ea4429178ef77de2166d-grande.jpg

I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the paper today.

Artos
06-11-10, 08:22
fyi...Brownsville is the sister city to Matamoros.


Zetas Attack Police in Matamoros

Thursday, June 10, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Gerardo
Los Zetas on the offensive against the Gulf Cartel



A comando of heavily armed Zetas attacked the building housing the Ministry of Public Security in Matamoros, Tamaulipas on Wednesday June 9th. Matamoros is considered one of the main plazas and home territory of the Gulf Cartel.

According to unofficial information, the shooting began at five in the afternoon and ended around nine o'clock at night. No civil authority has officially confirmed this incident. An unknown number of municipal police were killed, wounded and kidnapped.

Gunmen belonging to Los Zetas have attacked other cities and towns under the control of the Gulf cartel in the last two weeks such as Mier, Reynosa, Tampico and Valle Hermoso.

On the morning of June 4, groups of gunmen entered the border town of Mier where they burned homes, businesses and vehicles and looted several properties and abducted people.

Gunmen believed to be Zetas raided the municipal police headquarters in Valle Hermoso early Sunday, June 6. According to neighbors, gunmen kidnapped an unknown number of municipal policemen. The Zetas then staged other shootings in different parts of the city.

Also this weekend a similar attack occurred in the town of Abasolo, by a group of Zetas that kidnapped at least ten people, according to reports from inhabitants of the town.

In the case of Matamoros, police sources revealed that Los Zetas searched for two days to enter the city, which is one of the most sheltered places under the control of the Gulf cartel, until the afternoon of Wednesday's attack materialized .

According to The Brownsville Herald the mayor , Pat M. Ahumada Jr., called for U.S. citizens to avoid crossing the international bridge to Matamoros due to the violence that occurred that occurred Wednesday afternoon and night.

"The mayor says he learned that up to ten people, including police officers, may have died in the shooting," notes the article published in the newspaper.

This confrontation, during which opposing armed groups, as well as elements of the Navy, began in Los Laureles, located just off Sixth Street, near Matamoros New World Theater.

Versions of the attack were also disseminated to the effect that the Municipal Security Secretary Ruben Hiram González Barrera, was abducted during the armed raid, but no authority confirmed or denied the rumors.

In Tampico, this morning a command executed a traffic policeman and wounded two elements of the Metropolitan Police while they were at the crossroads Tampico-Mante.

The Zetas were originally the bodyguard and enforcement branch of the Gulf cartel (CDG) but split off to form their own drug trafficking organization. Since February 2010 the CDG and the Zetas have been waging a brutal war against each other.

VooDoo6Actual
06-11-10, 14:12
redacted.

Cold Zero
06-11-10, 19:58
Hannity starts in less than 2 minutes. This should be worth watching.

Heartland Hawk
06-11-10, 20:18
I've been watching and waiting. I think its comming up next...

uwe1
06-11-10, 20:30
Off all of his useless buffoons, I truly believe she is by far the worst.

Extremely sad to see her in such a critical position.

It is sad, but the silver lining was that it got her out of Arizona. As a AZ resident, I'm very thankful for that.

Her departure has paved the way for a variety of needed laws to get through the legislature. The most notable one being SB1070.

GermanSynergy
06-11-10, 20:43
We live in increasingly surreal times, gentlemen.

Artos
06-12-10, 09:16
We live in increasingly surreal times, gentlemen.


understatement for sure amigo...

for those keeping up, borderlandbeat.com has some good stuff 06/12/10.

Careful, there are some graphic pics:

500grains
06-12-10, 10:20
understatement for sure amigo...

for those keeping up, borderlandbeat.com has some good stuff 06/12/10.

Careful, there are some graphic pics:


Thank you for that link.

VooDoo6Actual
06-12-10, 11:42
redacted.

Artos
06-14-10, 08:30
link has vid...

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/pinal-county-sheriff-mexican-drug.html


Pinal County Sheriff: Mexican drug cartels now control parts of Arizona




CASA GRANDE, AZ - Two men shot earlier this week could be the result of the ongoing battle between Mexican drug cartels now spilling over deep into Arizona, officials say.

Pinal County investigators say an area known as the smuggling corridor now stretches from Mexico's border to metro Phoenix.

The area, once an area for family hiking and off road vehicles has government signs warning residents of the drug and human smugglers.

Night vision cameras have photographed cartel members with military arms delivering drugs to vehicles along Highway 8.

"We are three counties deep. How is it that you see pictures like these, not American with semi and fully automatic rifles. How is that okay?" asked Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu.

Babeu said he no longer has control over parts of his county.

"We are outgunned, we are out manned and we don't have the resources here locally to fight this," he said at a Friday news conference.

Five weeks ago Deputy Louie Puroll was ambushed and shot as he tracked six drug smugglers.

Sheriff Babeu said the ambush mirrored military tactics.

Even more disturbing, Babeu said the man who called in to 911 operators for help seemed to know a lot about the sheriff deputy's case.

"He told operators they could find him where the deputy was shot and talked about our search helicopter. Things that were not talked about on the news," Babeu said.

When operators asked the fatally wounded man how he knew the area, he claimed he sold cantelope near mile post 150.

Both men were found dead several hours later.

Detectives say next to them was a Bushmaster automatic rifle used by police officers for patrolling. It does not appear to be stolen.

Investigators also revealed that an autopsy showed strap marks on one of the men that likely came from hauling heavy loads, they suspect were drugs.

One of the men, deputies say, was voluntarily deported seven times.

Babeu said he doesn't believe the drug cartel problems will not be solved when SB 1070 becomes a law, or with President Obama's promise of 1,200 troops spread out among four border states.

"It will fall short. What is truly needed in 3,000 soldiers for Arizona alone," Babeu said.

VooDoo6Actual
06-14-10, 18:31
redacted.

Irish
06-14-10, 18:40
Here ya go Hop.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/622/cid5b877da152a74484a855.jpg

Heartland Hawk
06-14-10, 18:57
We need more CITIZENS to get involved.

FlyAndFight
06-15-10, 10:54
http://www.barbaraespinosa.com/

...U.S. Post Office now enabling illegal aliens
Immigration Reform Examiner Looking to capitalize on the growing remittance industry, largely fueled by illegal aliens sending money earned through illegal employment in this country, back home, the U.S. Post Office now offers a wire transfer service, but only to countries in Latin America. The service, called Dinero Seguro (Sure Money) is being advertised in local post offices with posters showing a Latino family, along with the caption “for your wire transfer of funds back home.”
The following description of the service was taken directly from the official USPS website: “It’s easy to wire money with Sure Money™ (Dinero Seguro®). Whether you are sending it to a business or to family or friends, all you have to do is visit a participating Post Office* and send your money. It will be transferred in just 15 minutes to a participating branch in the destination country.”
The wire transfers are only available to the following countries:
-Argentina-Colombia-Dominican Republic-Ecuador-El Salvador-Guatemala
-Honduras-Mexico-Nicaragua-Peru
The new plan will allow a sender to transfer up to $2,000 a day to Latin America. The fee to the sender begins at $10 on an amount of up to $750.[/B]



Hop, I looked up that "Dinero Seguro" and found a release notice from the USPS dated 2005. It's been active for 5 years. Unreal.

Artos
06-15-10, 13:55
Sheriff Paul Babeu came out swinging on this just now...fox news.


Hop, i got a good compadre that works the local post office counter here in the valley. I'll pick his brain & ask how common the seguro dinero is for this area anyway.

Irish
06-16-10, 16:49
Video here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

Immigration Uptick in Violence Forces Closing of Parkland Along Mexico Border to Americans

Published June 16, 2010
| FOXNews.com

About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona have been closed off to U.S. citizens due to increased violence at the U.S.-Mexico border, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

The closed off area includes part of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge that stretches along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu told Fox News that violence against law enforcement officers and U.S. citizens has increased in the past four months, forcing officers on an 80 mile stretch of Arizona land north of the Mexico border off-limits to Americans.

The refuge had been adversely affected by the increase in drug smugglers, illegal activity and surveillance, which made it dangerous for Americans to visit.

"The situation in this zone has reached a point where continued public use of the area is not prudent," said refuge manager Mitch Ellis.

“It’s literally out of control,” said Babeu. “We stood with Senator McCain and literally demanded support for 3,000 soldiers to be deployed to Arizona to get this under control and finally secure our border with Mexico. “

U.S. Fish and Wildlife officials have warned visitors in Arizona to beware of heavily armed drug smugglers and human traffickers.

“We need support from the federal government. It’s their job to secure the border and they haven’t done it,” said Babeu. “In fact, President Obama suspended the construction of the fence and it’s just simply outrageous.”

Signs have been posted warning Americans not to cross into the closed off territory south of Interstate 8. Babeu said the signs are not enough – he said Arizona needs more resources to help scale back the violence caused by the drug cartels.

“We need action. It’s shameful that we, as the most powerful nation on Earth, … can’t even secure our own border and protect our own families.”

Cold Zero
06-16-10, 16:52
BLM land too dangerous for camping and recreation, now closed.

I think the US money in Arizona should now be printed in Pesos....


http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges/arizona/buenosaires/PDFs/Closure.pdf


Too bad so many people wait for other people to volunteer their time and money to help secure the border, as the Mexicans take larger and larger swathes of our land.......

Irish
06-16-10, 16:55
Too bad so many people wait for other people to volunteer their time and money to help secure the border, as the Mexicans take larger and larger swathes of our land.......

I would gladly use my own money, transportation, vacation time and ammunition if given a hunting permit to protect our sovereign country.

Cold Zero
06-16-10, 16:57
I would gladly use my own money, transportation, vacation time and ammunition if given a hunting permit to protect our sovereign country.

While it is the Wild Wild West there, no one is going to give you a hunting permit. You do have the inherent right to self defense and the right to carry there.

If you are willing to spend some money, time and effort, there are many Border watch groups that you can break a sweat with. More people need to get involved and do more than just comment on the 'net.

Chuck
06-16-10, 19:50
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z228/pistolwrench19/border/fence11.jpg

VooDoo6Actual
06-16-10, 21:42
redacted.

Moose-Knuckle
06-17-10, 12:38
Indian reservations on both U.S. borders become drug pipelines

By Tim Johnson, McClatchy Newspapers Tim Johnson, Mcclatchy Newspapers – Wed Jun 16, 4:36 pm ET

SELLS, Arizona — Like any young man on the Tohono O'odham Indian reservation on the border with Mexico , Clayton Antone can reel off the going rate for smuggling a load of marijuana into the U.S.

"You get $2,000 for a 45-minute drive," Antone said.

The Mexican and Canadian shiny pick-up trucks and late-model SUVs outside the homes of unemployed Indians on the reservation suggest that some have acted on the math.

Traffickers in Mexico and Canada increasingly are using Indian reservations along the borders as conduits for bringing marijuana, Ecstasy and other illicit drugs into the U.S. The drug gangs take advantage of weak and underfunded tribal police forces and the remoteness of tribal lands, and they find that high unemployment rates and resentment of federal law enforcement agencies make some young native Americans ready allies.

Drug seizures on the tribal lands have risen sharply. In 2005, law enforcement agents made 292 seizures totaling 67 tons of marijuana. By 2009, they tallied 1,066 seizures totaling more than 159 tons.

Cocaine also is moving in. On June 11 , the U.S. attorney for Arizona indicted nine Tohono people on trafficking charges, ending a five-month probe in which undercover agents made 39 buys totaling over 250 grams of cocaine.

The U.S. Justice Department is closely watching on two reservations where it says the problems are most acute: the St. Regis Mohawk Reservation in upstate New York and the Tohono O'odham Reservation in Arizona .

As much as 20 percent of all the high-potency marijuana grown in Canada each year is smuggled through the St. Regis Mohawk Reservation , according to the National Drug Intelligence Center's 2010 drug threat assessment report.

Drug gangs smuggle 5 percent to 10 percent of all the marijuana produced in Mexico through the Tohono O'odham Reservation in Arizona , it adds.

The Mohawk reservation includes about 20 miles, or half a percent of the 3,987-mile U.S. border with Canada (not including Alaska ), while the Tohono O'odham tribal lands take up about 75 miles, or 4 percent of the 1,933-mile border with Mexico .

The Tohono O'odham Police Department employs some 65 officers, yet they must cover a sprawling Sonoran Desert reservation the size of Connecticut . Roads are good, but communities are far apart.

"It takes an officer at least two hours to respond in some cases, depending on the locale," said Timothy Joaquin , a tribal council member on the security committee that oversees public safety issues.

Compounding problems, the tribal population is only 27,000 — really a large extended family. Those involved in the drug trade aren't distant neighbors but a friend's cousin, or one's own relative, and loyalty runs deep.

"I know people who actually go to Mexico and bring the drugs across," said Antone, who works at the Tribal Youth Council , which helps young people find jobs, and he doesn't condone the smuggling he sees around him. "Everybody knows who's doing it."

Those involved know the back roads and trails better than do the Border Patrol agents who police the reservation for illegal migrants and smugglers. They're also familiar with when the agents take breaks, change shifts and use sniffer dogs at the checkpoints on the three roads leading out of the tribal area.

Tohono smugglers send spotters out to the Border Patrol checkpoints to see when it's safe to pass along the route.

"They'll send the message, 'There's no K-9. Come on through,'" Antone said.

Joaquin, the council member, said a trip around tribal land suggests that something doesn't quite add up.

"You think, 'how can somebody who's not employed afford such a good vehicle?'" he said.

At one village, Al-Jek, less than a mile from the border, where a special type of fencing allows the passage of livestock and people but not vehicles, Angelita Castillo said a few hamlets are deeply involved, such as nearby Pisinemo.

"Some of us who are here, we try to keep away from it," Castillo said.

The trafficking is in people as well as drugs, and the Tohono O'odham reservation pays dearly. Mexican migrants leave trash strewn across the desert, break into homes in search of food, receive treatment at the tribal health services clinic and impose a burden on tribal police. The tribe has paid for autopsies for more than 50 migrants found dead on its land.

"They find tons of trash that these individuals leave behind, backpacks and clothes. They've stolen so many bicycles," said Frances G. Antone , a member of the Tohono legislative council who's distantly related to Clayton Antone .

Legal experts say Washington bears some blame for what has happened.

"The quality of law enforcement on all tribal lands is generally weak," said Kevin Washburn , the dean of the University of New Mexico law school in Albuquerque . "It is primarily a federal responsibility, and the federal government's commitment has been weak.

Roughly 2,500 miles northeast, severe environmental pollution and economic dislocation have afflicted the 22-square-mile St. Regis Mohawk Reservation in upstate New York .

"The Mohawks basically had their traditional economies destroyed by General Motors and Alcoa polluting the land with PCBs," said David Stoddard , a spokesman for the tribal government.

Three foundries and plants that the companies operated, beginning in the 1950s, have become Superfund sites to clean up polychlorinated biphenyls, or PCBs, a contaminant that's gotten into mothers' milk on the reservation.

Each year, federal agents say, as much as a billion dollars of hydroponically grown marijuana and other drugs move through the reservation, which straddles the St. Lawrence Seaway. Some drugs, particularly cocaine, are smuggled north.

"Multiple tons of high-potency marijuana are smuggled through the St. Regis Mohawk Reservation each week by Native American (drug trafficking organizations)," the drug threat assessment report said.

In warmer weather, smugglers use speedboats and Jet Skis to zip across the river, turning to snowmobiles when the river ices over in winter.

Montreal is a 90-minute drive, while New York City is a straight shot down Interstate 87 .

Amid new busts on the reservation, Sen. Charles Schumer , D- N.Y. , proposed last December that 10 years be added to the term of any drug trafficker if they use Indian lands. The proposal hasn't yet become law.

The smuggling trial of Russian emigre Andrey Nevsky , a left-handed pro boxer, last month in Albany, N.Y. , brought new testimony that the reservation was a major transshipment point for tons of marijuana headed south.

Prosecutors said smugglers who brought vehicles full of marijuana down I-87 used "blocking" vehicles to break traffic laws on purpose to distract police and protect the smugglers.

Irish
06-18-10, 18:05
Are you ****ing kidding me?!?!?! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/17/clinton-administration-file-suit-arizona-immigration-law/

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer expressed outrage Thursday over Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's comments that the Obama administration will sue over Arizona's controversial immigration law -- and Brewer said she's ready for a fight.

Clinton said in an interview with a TV station in Ecuador that the Obama administration "will be bringing" suit against Arizona for its immigration law, though the Justice Department for weeks has said that the issue is still under review.

"What a disappointment," Brewer told Fox News' Greta Van Susteren on Thursday, saying she was shocked the administration would make such an announcement on foreign TV without giving Arizona officials the news first. Her office hadn't heard from the administration as of Thursday evening.

"We are not going to back away from this issue," Brewer said. "We are going to pursue it, we're going to be very aggressive," Brewer said. "We'll meet them in court ... And we will win."

She added: "The population of America agrees with Arizona."

In a clip of the interview posted on a conservative blog, Clinton was asked how the Obama administration was handling the debate over the law.

"President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy. And the Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act," the secretary of state responded, before calling for comprehensive immigration reform.

President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have both criticized the Arizona law, but the administration has maintained that its attorneys are reviewing the legislation to determine the next step.

Clinton was in Latin America last week for the general assembly of the Organization of American States in Peru.

Despite the release of the interview, a Justice spokesman said Thursday that the department "continues to review the law."

Another Justice official could not confirm whether the White House directed the department to sue, but said the White House would be within its rights to do so.

"It would not be inappropriate for the White House to tell us to sue. It's not a criminal matter," the official said.

On April 23, Brewer, a Republican, signed what is considered the toughest legislation in the nation targeting illegal immigrants. It is set to go into effect July 29 pending multiple legal challenges and the Justice Department's review.

The law requires police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there's a "reasonable suspicion" they're in the country illegally. It also makes being in Arizona illegally a misdemeanor, and it prohibits seeking day-labor work along the state's streets.

The law's stated intention is to drive illegal immigrants out of Arizona and discourage them from coming in the first place. It has outraged civil rights groups, drawn criticism from Obama and led to marches and protests organized by people on both sides of the issue.

The law's backers say Congress isn't doing anything meaningful about illegal immigration, so it's the state's duty to address the issue.

A State Department spokesman said the department would defer to the Justice Department "on what legal steps are available."

"The president and Secretary (Clinton) have said clearly that the administration opposes the Arizona law," spokesman Andy Laine said. "A number of leaders in the region have raised the issue with the United States. It came up during her recent trip to South America. As the secretary said, a better solution is comprehensive immigration reform."

Moose-Knuckle
06-19-10, 07:46
Are you ****ing kidding me?!?!?! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/17/clinton-administration-file-suit-arizona-immigration-law/

AZ, NM, TX, and CA need to sue the Obama administration for failing to do it's JOB and keep their states secure.

VooDoo6Actual
06-19-10, 10:00
redacted.

GermanSynergy
06-19-10, 10:05
Don't forget a 400 million dollar check to HAMAS. :mad:


http://www.barbaraespinosa.com/



We have money for Haiti & Greece etc. BUT, no money for our BORDERS / SOVEREIGNTY ? I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...

Oscar 319
06-20-10, 05:57
From my neck of the woods.

Video http://connect2utah.com/news-story/?nxd_id=95105


A murder suspect out of Mexico was arrested Saturday evening in Salt Lake City by U.S. Marshals.

A 2 News photographer was there, soon after 18 year-old Gary Hidalgo Gaines was taken into custody.

Gaines had been wanted out of Baja Mexico, for shooting and killing a man.

He was tracked down by U.S. Marshals at a grocery store in West Valley.

"This was a very very high profile case in Mexico, there was some corruption involved initially in this case, he was arrested right after the shooting in Mexico and somehow the attorney general there dismissed the charge and that attorney general came under some criticism, was fired,", said Jim Phelps from the U.S. Marshals Office

The new attorney general issued a warrant to arrest Hidalgo Gaines.

Phelps said there is a disturbing increase in individuals fleeing from their countries to hide in the United States.

Gaines is in the Salt Lake County Jail, awaiting extradition to Mexico.

VooDoo6Actual
06-20-10, 11:13
redacted.

Artos
06-21-10, 08:39
Catholic Church warns of cartel control in Mexico

June 21, 2010 7:35 AM
The Associated Press
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's Roman Catholic Church says drug cartels now control parts of some cities and warns that the gangs may be trying to influence this year's state elections.

The Archdiocese of Mexico says in an editorial that organized crime groups may try "to impose candidates" in the July 4 elections that will decide 12 of Mexico's 31 governorships.

It says cartels may also try to impede voters from going to the polls.

The editorial posted Sunday on the archdiocese's website says drug gangs are intimidating governments in some states and "control entire neighborhoods in some cities."

More than 22,700 people have died in drug-related violence since Mexico launched an anti-drug offensive in late 2006.

Irish
06-21-10, 16:01
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=12675989

PINAL COUNTY, AZ (KOLD) - A group of citizens plans to arm themselves with heavy weaponry and patrol the Vekol Valley area of Pinal County, looking for drug smugglers entering the country. They plan to conduct their patrol operation from 3:00pm Saturday to 3:00pm Sunday.

"We're going to block off the narcoterrorists that come up through this area," said Mesa resident Jason "J.T." Ready, who is organizing the gathering.

Ready says volunteers are coming from all over Arizona, and even out of state, to support the effort.

"This is the Minuteman Project on steroids," Ready explained. "We've got people with assault weapons. We will use lawful, deadly force where appropriate."

But Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu responds, "Though I appreciate their support and offer to take up arms and patrol, this would not be helpful, and would only cause a strain on already strained resources, and their safety needs to be a priority. I do not ask or encouraged them to come here."

The Vekol Valley area has become a highly-trafficked corridor for drug runners. The situation has become so dangerous that signs now warn people to stay away. Not far from the area, a Pinal County sheriff's deputy was shot and injured in late April.

Ready has ties to extremist groups, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, including a neo-Nazi group known as the National Socialist Movement. Ready has denied the group is neo-Nazi.

Honu
06-21-10, 23:51
Ready has ties to extremist groups, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center

that itself is funny :)
pot calling the kettle black for sure !!!!!

considering they have their HATE LIST or Black list of people that are patriots and conservatives

they are a hardcore super far left radical extremist organization I guess it takes one to know one ?

Artos
06-22-10, 07:36
There is so much corruption in the govt, military & police, I'm not sure who the advisors could trust??

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Jorge Castaneda: Mexico Cannot Win Without U.S. Advisors
| Borderland Reporter Gerardo


U.S. Marine Corp advisor in Colombia

The former Mexican Minister of Foreign Affairs said that without a broad alliance with the United States winning the war on drugs will be impossible.


Mexico's former foreign minister, Jorge Castañeda, said that the country can not win the drug war without a plan like the one implemented in Colombia, which would mean the acceptance of U.S. military advisers on Mexican territory and other conditions such as a major improvement in the human rights records of Mexico’s military and police forces.

Mexico has been traditionally extremely sensitive to the presence of any foreign military or any type of intervention within its borders.

Castañeda participated on Monday with a keynote speech addressing the difficulties of the struggle against organized crime by the Calderon administration at the Binational Forum "The challenges of insecurity and violence Mexico - United States" held in Mexico and attended by officials from both countries.

"If there is no Mexican equivalent to Plan Colombia we can not win the war" he said.

Plan Colombia is the name of the U.S initiative to curb drug trafficking and re-establish the rule of law in Colombia through mainly military and counter-narcotic assistance.

Castañeda noted that U.S. aid, as in the case of Colombia, is subject to certain conditions, including those relating to compliance with human rights standards in military and police operations.

In Colombia, he said, there has been an average of one thousand U.S. advisers in the last ten years. The equivalent number for Mexico in terms of the higher population would be to have three thousand U.S. advisors.

He also noted the vast difference in the flow of resources to both countries to combat organized crime and said the 1.3 billion dollars pledged to Mexico through the Merida initiative is grossly inadequate for the task.

“Plan Colombia has received eight billion dollars in 10 years for a country two and a half times smaller than Mexico” he said.

Not all of the pledged aid promised thru the Merida initiative has been funded by the U.S. Congress due to budgetary problems and also restrictions on some of the aid due to human rights violations by the Mexican military.

"The American condition was that you have to remove the immunity from military justice for violations of human rights”. “Is the army going to accept this condition after what happened in Tamaulipas? " he asked.

rat31465
06-22-10, 09:35
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f37_1276992277
This is only news to ABC...But it is a good Video.

VooDoo6Actual
06-22-10, 12:04
redacted.

jwfuhrman
06-22-10, 14:02
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f37_1276992277
This is only news to ABC...But it is a good Video.



now that is a good video. If someone doesnt watch that, or watches it and isnt furious, they are either ignorant, afraid of the truth, or doesnt want to believe anything a "Right Minded Conservative" has to say because they are blinded by the "Obamamania"

Ive shared that on my facebook page, hope everyone does as well.

VooDoo6Actual
06-22-10, 17:48
redacted.

Irish
06-22-10, 19:25
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/police-az-border-city-threatened-smugglers-duty-officers-thwarted-drug-load/

PHOENIX (AP) — Police in the Arizona border city of Nogales have been told to carry guns when they aren't at work after smugglers threatened to retaliate against two off-duty officers who stopped a vehicle carrying 400 pounds of marijuana.

Nogales Police Chief Jeff Kirkham said Tuesday that he considers the threat credible because various informants were able to identify the specific officers in the city of 20,000 who thwarted the drug load earlier this month.

"Are they credible? Yes," Kirkham said. "Are they going to carry through with those threats? I don't know."

Kirkham said the U.S. Border Patrol has sent additional agents to the area east of the city where the off-duty officers, who were riding horses, stopped the smugglers during the first week of June.

The smugglers left behind their vehicle and fled into Mexico, while the two armed officers guarded the vehicle and its drugs.

No one was injured in the bust, and there hasn't been any retaliation against officers.

Nogales police managers advised off-duty officers to carry their guns, avoid the part of the desert where the bust was made, and carry a cell phone or police radio to report retaliation attempts or anything suspicious.

Kirkham said smugglers view off-duty officers differently than uniformed officers. "They believe that when you don't have a uniform on, you are not a cop anymore, that you are a civilian who doesn't take action on felony crimes," he said.

Border Patrol spokesman Omar Candelaria declined to say how many additional agents were sent into the desert area where the bust was made.

The police chief said he believes this is the first threat made by smugglers on an officer in his city and that his city doesn't have the cartel murders that are seen in communities south of the border.

Two weeks ago, two Border Patrol agents shot and wounded two suspected drug smugglers about 40 miles west of Nogales after agents said the traffickers threw rocks at them.

The neighboring Mexican city of Nogales has had attacks on police officers since the Mexican government started its war on the country's powerful drug cartels.

A deputy police chief in Nogales, Mexico, and his bodyguard were fatally shot in March when gunmen in a pickup truck opened fire on them with assault rifles.

In November 2008, the police chief for the Mexican state that includes Nogales was fatally shot as he entered a hotel with his bodyguard and other officers. The gunmen used grenades as diversions in the fatal ambush a few miles south of the Arizona border.

The threat was first reported by the Nogales International.

apd268
06-22-10, 19:42
just ridiculous, way out of hand

thopkins22
06-22-10, 19:43
"Police in the Arizona border city of Nogales have been told to carry guns when they aren't at work after smugglers threatened to retaliate against two off-duty officers who stopped a vehicle carrying 400 pounds of marijuana."

A little off topic, but they weren't told to carry off duty anyway?:confused: I volunteer with HPD and all the officers I know are supposed to carry off duty as a matter of course. Most do not though....

Irish
06-22-10, 22:39
Does this deserve a separate thread or just post it here? And a big WTF?!?! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/22/mexico-files-lawsuit-overturn-arizona-immigration-law/

PHOENIX -- Mexico on Tuesday asked a federal court in Arizona to declare the state's new immigration law unconstitutional, arguing that the country's own interests and its citizens' rights are at stake.

Lawyers for Mexico on Tuesday submitted a legal brief in support of one of five lawsuits challenging the law. The law will take effect July 29 unless implementation is blocked by a court.

The law generally requires police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there's a "reasonable suspicion" they're in the country illegally. It also makes being in Arizona illegally a misdemeanor, and it prohibits seeking day-labor work along the state's streets.

Citing "grave concerns," Mexico said its interest in having predictable, consistent relations with the United States shouldn't be frustrated by one U.S. state.

Mexico also said it has a legitimate interest in defending its citizens' rights and that the law would lead to racial profiling, hinder trade and tourism, and strain the countries' work on combating drug trafficking and related violence.

"Mexican citizens will be afraid to visit Arizona for work or pleasure out of concern that they will be subject to unlawful police scrutiny and detention," the brief said.

It will be to a U.S. District Court judge to decide whether to accept the brief along with similar ones submitted by various U.S. organizations.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed the law on April 23 and changes to it on April 30, has lawyers defending it in court.

In a statement issued late Tuesday, Brewer said she was "very disappointed" to learn of Mexico's filing and reiterated that "Arizona's immigration enforcement laws are both reasonable and constitutional."

"I believe that Arizona will ultimately prevail and that our laws will be found constitutional," Brewer added.

Brewer and other supporters of the bill say the law is intended to pressure illegal immigrants to leave the United States. They contend it is a needed response to federal inaction over what they say is a porous border and social problems caused by illegal immigration. They also argue that it has protections against racial profiling.

Mexican officials previously had voiced opposition to the Arizona law, with President Felipe Calderon saying June 8 that the law "opens a Pandora's box of the worst abuses in the history of humanity" by promoting racial profiling and potentially leading to an authoritarian society

Calderon voiced similar criticism of the law during a May visit to Washington.

U.S. officials have said the Obama administration has serious concerns about the law and may challenge it in court. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton recently went further by saying a lawsuit is planned.

tampam4
06-22-10, 22:44
I don't even know what to say here....

If this makes any progress, I will write off all hope I have for this country under our current administration.

Moose-Knuckle
06-23-10, 02:49
Does this deserve a separate thread or just post it here? And a big WTF?!?! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/22/mexico-files-lawsuit-overturn-arizona-immigration-law/

Interesting, funny how the US just bends over and takes it. Mexico wants to "defend it's citizens rights"....what rights? They don't have any here...:mad:

When the Mexican goverment officals show up at the US court house they ought to be kicked out on their asses and handed a law suit for the trillions of dollars that the US has given Mexico and for the tab it's illegals keep running up here at the US tax payer expense.

Davy Crockett is spinning in his grave!

jwfuhrman
06-23-10, 07:16
maybe its time for another Alamo, minus the whole getting overrun and gunned down part.....

Moose-Knuckle
06-23-10, 07:19
maybe its time for another Alamo, minus the whole getting overrun and gunned down part.....

More like another San Jacinto. ;)

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/SS/qes4.html

Caeser25
06-23-10, 21:21
drug cartels to hire snipers to target leos

http://www.thefoxnation.com/border-chaos/2010/06/22/mexican-drug-cartels-openly-threaten-az-cops-snipers

Caeser25
06-23-10, 21:24
I got it, it's a ploy by Obama to suspend posee comitatis (sp?) once it gets bad enough (subjective)

Artos
06-23-10, 21:54
drug cartels to hire snipers to target leos

http://www.thefoxnation.com/border-chaos/2010/06/22/mexican-drug-cartels-openly-threaten-az-cops-snipers


...i would call this a straw to break the camel's back the same way another 9/11 would bitch slap the country awake. The borders are broken but I would hope the narcos understand not to wake the sleeping giant in this manner.

I'm sure they (smart ones) want the ugly stuff to stay on their side.

kmrtnsn
06-23-10, 22:30
Already happened. A few years back two co-workers of mine were both taken out by a south-side sniper. Both shot through the thigh, one with a shattered femur and severed nerve. Both eventually returned to full and limited duty, respectively. Back in '99 we had $100,000.00 bounties on our heads; everyone went to work like any other day. 99% of what has been posted in this thread is "nothing new" and "same ole, same ole" to Border Patrol Agents on the line. This has been the situation since 1924.

Honu
06-24-10, 00:53
time to push back ? to bad the people in the white house want this to happen !!!!! its hosed

I say make a big no mans land
make a fence then heavily mined and tons of razor wire and another fence
let our snipers go practice on bad guys that get into the zone !

Artos
06-24-10, 08:04
Already happened. A few years back two co-workers of mine were both taken out by a south-side sniper. Both shot through the thigh, one with a shattered femur and severed nerve. Both eventually returned to full and limited duty, respectively. Back in '99 we had $100,000.00 bounties on our heads; everyone went to work like any other day. 99% of what has been posted in this thread is "nothing new" and "same ole, same ole" to Border Patrol Agents on the line. This has been the situation since 1924.

I meant with more randomness and frequency. I understand what you mean about you guys on front lines are always none to nose with the boogyman. I don't think military or leo has changed in that regards for the big picture.

For us mortals, it is nowhere near the same...even 5 years ago. It's going to get worse. There's a vid in the link worth watching. I have dozens of friends and co-workers living with this mess. My backyard may very well be the heart of the battle.

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http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/gulf-cartel-against-los-zetas-in.html#more




Gulf Cartel Against Los Zetas in Reynosa
Thursday, June 24, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Buggs
CNN
By Karl Penhaul



Maria Jesus Mancha had just come from burying her son.

It took her about 20 minutes to drive to the cemetery from her house in a lower middle-class neighborhood in the Mexican border city of Reynosa. In just half that time she could have driven across the border into Texas.

That's how close the frontlines in Mexico's drug war are to the United States.

Mancha says Reynosa is not so much a city under fire in the drug war as a city where security officials have cut a deal with the devil and now work with or for the cartels.

Her son Miguel Angel Vazquez, 27, was a computer engineer in a U.S.-owned assembly plant in Reynosa. He was married with two young children.

"I blame the authorities, our bad government and the police. You must realize these people are disguised as police," she said, referring to cartel gunmen as "these people."

A local newspaper El Sol, citing police sources, said only that her son was caught in crossfire when narcos opened fire on a police patrol as he drove home around midnight.

But Mancha dares to contradict the official version. Other residents of Reynosa also believe that some in the police take orders from the now-dominant Gulf Cartel -- but they keep their opinions to themselves.


Mexico-U.S. border In a city like Reynosa where a drug cartel imposes its rule at gunpoint, Mancha knows speaking out may be like asking for a death sentence.


Asked if she preferred not to be quoted by name, she was defiant and pleaded not to edit her words.

"If they want to kill me for saying this then here I am. They killed me when they killed my son. I'm already dead," Mancha told me.

From Mancha's living room, you could see a large pick-up truck with tinted windows -- like the ones favored by the cartels -- slowly patrolling up and down the street.

There was no way of knowing who was really inside. But that's the problem these days in Reynosa -- people suspect the cartel has eyes and ears everywhere.

A few minutes into an interview, one of Mancha's daughters suggested she cut short the chat. "What's done is done. Just let it go now," she whispered.


Another of the vocal exceptions, publicly condemning official corruption, is Jose Sacramento, a senator in President Felipe Calderon's ruling National Action Party (PAN).

He's running for the state governor's office in July elections. "What we are seeing now across Tamaulipas state is the result of complicity between state and municipal police and organized crime," he said.

In an off-camera chat, municipal police chiefs dismissed allegations that cops were on the Gulf Cartel payroll.

But President Calderon's government has acknowledged police and military units nationwide -- not just municipal and state police -- have been infiltrated by the cartels.

Fighting erupted in Reynosa at the start of the year between the Gulf Cartel and its former hit squad, the Zetas. The war has spread along the border between Matamoros, across from Brownsville, Texas, up to Nuevo Laredo.

At stake is not just control of cocaine and marijuana smuggling routes but migrant trafficking routes, and extortion and kidnap rackets.


With the Gulf Cartel gaining the upper hand in Reynosa, the fate of a city of 500,000 inhabitants now seems to be in the hands of a pudgy-faced 37-year-old known by the codename Metro-Three.

According to local residents, and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Metro-Three, whose real name is Samuel Flores Borrego, is a former cop who went rogue and is now the alleged head of Gulf Cartel operations in Reynosa with a $5 million U.S. State Department reward on his head.

Flores-Borrego's State Department wanted poster

In its bid for supremacy, the Gulf Cartel has called in extra firepower thanks to an alliance with former rivals in the Sinaloa and La Familia cartels. Given the shifting sands of Mexico's drug conflict, it's difficult to predict how long that pact will hold. If it breaks down it will almost certainly herald a new spiral of killings.

It's difficult to compare the levels of violence, or the threat of violence in Reynosa with other parts of Mexico.

Reynosa City Hall officials said they "simply have no idea" how many people may have been killed so far.

Unlike in other Mexican cities, officials here say they believe the cartels gather up and secretly dispose of their own dead.

Red Cross officials say the vast majority of victims are cartel members, not innocent bystanders.


Whatever the threat level to civilians, it's easy to become paranoid in Reynosa.

During a five-day stay in Reynosa, pick-up trucks and luxury SUVs shadowed our movements. From time to time one of the trucks would crack open a window, revealing four men inside and the driver holding a walkie-talkie.

On pedestrian streets, we were followed by three young men in shiny, sequined baseball caps -- one of the hallmarks of young cartel lookouts known here as "falcons."


Visiting journalists have the option of leaving. It's a different story for the Mexican journalists.

This year alone at least six journalists from Reynosa and the surrounding area have been "disappeared" by suspected drug cartel gunmen, according to Jaime Aguirre, head of Reynosa's Democratic Union of Journalists.

It is not known whether they are dead or alive. It's also not known whether they were taken because of their reporting.

In a bid to survive, most local journalists seem to have decided self-censorship is the better part of valor. There's little news of the home-grown drug war in the newspapers or on the radio.

"It's not fear but simply the lack of security which obliges us to keep certain things quiet," Aguirre told me. "Our state (Tamaulipas) is ranked first in the number of disappeared journalists. We simply have no guarantees to be able to inform about daily events."

The information void left by the traditional media is being filled by concerned citizens using web tools like Twitter.

They warn of gangsters setting up roadblocks and of the echo of gunfire. They ask each other for status reports from neighborhoods across Reynosa and outlying border communities.


The tweets flew thick and fast in February when the Gulf Cartel and the Zetas fought day and night in downtown Reynosa.

The battles were so public that each side emblazoned the initials of their faction -- CDG, the Spanish acronym for Gulf Cartel, and "Z" for the Zetas -- on the side of their trucks.

Senior city hall official Juan Triana has also stepped into the online fray. Drawing on advice from his two teenage daughters about how to use the social networking site, he opened his own Twitter account (@dirdegobreynosa).

He and a colleague now work 16 hour days monitoring Twitter. If tweets are false Triana tries to halt the virtual psychosis. If they're true he simply warns readers to stay away from what he terms "risk situations."

"It's clear the local media cannot inform about this. The immediacy of the information (on Twitter) is very useful to the community," he said in a face-to-face conversation.

None of the other Twitter users on #reynosafollow agreed to meet in person in Reynosa. They said they didn't feel safe talking in the real world.

In a virtual world, they're protected by their aliases. But back out on Reynosa's streets, the cartel-imposed law of silence reigns.

And such psychological and physical threats of terror may be damaging people's mental health, according to Dinorah Guerra, psychotherapist and head of the Red Cross in Reynosa.

"There is a huge risk for people's self esteem. They cannot speak about what they have seen or what they have heard," she said. "You lose yourself and lose your identity."

VooDoo6Actual
06-24-10, 19:02
redacted.

Safetyhit
06-24-10, 19:58
I could write 20 paragraphs regarding my frustration over these endless slaughters of good, ultra-courageous people fighting against those on both on the outside and inside of their ranks.

But my lowly disgust would do nothing to get the immoral ****tards off the planet. Weapons, willpower and diligence are the only answer.

HOP, Godspeed to you, your brethren and the Border Patrol. Even though their PC "higher ups" (now clearly of lesser intellect) have for some unfathomable reason dropped Arizona for their next upcoming convention due to the new law. I am sure many among the ranks are less than pleased, at least I sure hope so.

If you are still at the World Cup, get back soon and introduce one or more of these soulless bastards to a desert bleaching.

Belmont31R
06-24-10, 21:07
Damn that shit is wicked....



Noticed most of the ambushes are with small arms. Are they using IED's? I guess its a good thing they haven't learned how to make EFP's...

thopkins22
06-24-10, 21:16
Noticed most of the ambushes are with small arms. Are they using IED's? I guess its a good thing they haven't learned how to make EFP's...

That ripped up AR made me think explosives too. I don't think an EFP would really help the bad guys any since those trucks aren't armored. Of course I'm out of my lane by a solid mile.

Belmont31R
06-24-10, 21:31
That ripped up AR made me think explosives too. I don't think an EFP would really help the bad guys any since those trucks aren't armored. Of course I'm out of my lane by a solid mile.



One of those dead Federales looks like his front is burned from a flash, and that gun is tore to shit. I wasn't aware if explosives are employed in ambushes or not (or very common). Seems like that would be a big step up from just small arms fire.

Belmont31R
06-24-10, 22:07
Democrat supporting boycott against AZ doesn't think AZ borders mexico: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ecd_1277412328

Safetyhit
06-24-10, 22:21
Democrat supporting boycott against AZ doesn't think AZ borders mexico: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ecd_1277412328



This unimaginable, yet rampant ignorance plaguing the Democratic party at this critical time is absolutely unacceptable.

Think I am exaggerating? Google Alvin Green or see this thread: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=55920

Ineptitude has become the norm with the Dems. Ideology is all they know, facts be damned.

5pins
06-24-10, 22:28
Democrat supporting boycott against AZ doesn't think AZ borders mexico: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ecd_1277412328

That is one dumb woman. She would have to look twice if Arizona was on the border? I bet she has no clue what the law says and has not looked at it once. More then likely she was told it was racist and decided she was opposed to it.

Honu
06-25-10, 05:13
Democrat supporting boycott against AZ doesn't think AZ borders mexico: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ecd_1277412328

and what is scary is she is most likely not the only one ? and most likely some like this are in some kind of power ?

sadly this is making me laugh at the ignorance of people like a bunch of our own gov apossing the law and never read it ? OH like our AG or head of homeland security and I bet the man himself
must be nice to be so full of yourself and ignorant that you believe your own lies

GermanSynergy
06-25-10, 12:02
This unimaginable, yet rampant ignorance plaguing the Democratic party at this critical time is absolutely unacceptable.

Think I am exaggerating? Google Alvin Green or see this thread: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=55920

Ineptitude has become the norm with the Dems. Ideology is all they know, facts be damned.

I agree 100%. It's like the far left psychotics have hijacked the Democrat party and run it off a cliff.

I can't imagine how anyone with even an 8th grade education would vote Democrat today.

GermanSynergy
06-25-10, 12:06
Democrat supporting boycott against AZ doesn't think AZ borders mexico: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ecd_1277412328

Anyone that passed 4th grade geography would beg to differ- so that probably excludes this particular Dem...

Artos
06-25-10, 15:39
what do you all think happened to the AR??

Caeser25
06-25-10, 18:30
what do you all think happened to the AR??

A gun show reload:confused: I honestly have no idea as none of the trucks show any evidence of an ied. My guess would be spike strips and then an ambush, every single tire is flat. God forbid they should start bartering for ied information.

Artos
06-26-10, 08:55
Please click the link and watch this hit go down...this is a pretty crazy vid.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/23-seconds-in-monterrey-in-2007.html




23 Seconds in Monterrey in 2007

Saturday, June 26, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Buggs

Sometimes these executions move very fast and the sicarios will kill anyone who is nearby. This a video that happened in Monterrey in April 2007 in a jewelry store. Killed was a police chief (the target), his wife, the sales lady and a guard by the door. One of the sicarios was injured by his one of his own people and was rescued.

We show this video just to give an idea how fast and cold blooded these sicarios can be.



In the seconds before the gunmen burst into the tiny Lozano Garza jewelry store in this city's downtown, three shoppers browsed the display cases.

An unarmed security guard sat by the door.

Then three men with assault rifles ran in, one after the other, the muzzles of their weapons ablaze.

By the time anyone reacted to the gunfire, it was too late. The four people collapsed in the barrage of bullets. One of the gunmen helped another, apparently wounded by a comrade, out of the store. Before the last killer fled, he fired final shots into a customer and the guard.

Twenty-three seconds after they came, the gunmen disappeared into the traffic of busy Francisco Madero Avenue, lined with hardware and lighting shops, taco vendors and newsstands. The page of a catalog on one case fluttered in the breeze.

The killers left the jewelry. Nor did they touch the cash register. They paid no heed to the three video cameras that recorded the entire scene.

Lying dead that afternoon of March 14, 2007, were an off-duty police commander and his wife, Benjamin Espinosa and Griselda Melendez, who apparently were shopping for a religious medallion in gratitude for a successful intestinal operation on their hospitalized infant daughter.

VooDoo6Actual
06-26-10, 18:50
redacted.

Belmont31R
06-26-10, 19:15
Ariz. Gov. Jan Brewer's plea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzDlN7VLmXQ&feature=player_embedded




God I wish it was 100 years ago, and we'd likely be hundreds of miles deep in mexico in a punitive action right now instead of having a commie CINC who flat out REFUSES to do anything about this.


Maybe if we all wrote letters to Michele O. asking her to give her husand's nuts back to him for a week we could actually do something...:mad:

kmrtnsn
06-26-10, 21:53
Oh sure, the Pershing foray into Mexico was a resounding success; not.

VooDoo6Actual
06-27-10, 19:28
redacted.

Artos
06-28-10, 10:06
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_15382488?source=most_viewed

Narco tunnel found in El Paso: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande
By Alex Hinojosa \ El Paso Times
Posted: 06/26/2010 12:00:00 AM MDT


EL PASO -- U.S. Border Patrol agents on Friday discovered a tunnel used by drug traffickers that stretched 130 feet under the concrete-lined Rio Grande from Mexico into the U.S. -- a surprising find and the first such tunnel in El Paso.

The crudely made tunnel, about 2 feet high and 2 feet wide, was found near the Bridge of the Americas, officials said.

Though small, dark and unventilated, the tunnel was wide enough for people to crawl from the Mexican side into the U.S. It opened up inside a storm drain in El Paso.

The tunnel, which was dug 2åfeet under the river, was discovered after Border Patrol agents became suspicious of noises and used electronic devices to find them, officials said.

They found 200 pounds of marijuana inside the tunnel and arrested 17-year-old boy from Mexico who was nearby about 1:30 a.m. Friday, officials said.

"This is the first of its kind. This is the first time a Border Patrol agent has found one," said El Paso Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier.

"Agents patrolling the area grew suspicious when they heard noises in the area near the canal," Mosier said. "A sensor technician and a border agent then discovered the tunnel."

Officials said they don't know how long the tunnel had been used or what kinds of drugs had been smuggled into the U.S.

Tunnels used by drug traffickers have been found in various parts of the U.S-Mexico border including Douglas and Nogales, Ariz., and San Diego. The largest tunnel was 4 feet high and 2 feet wide and had lighting and a railway car inside, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Leticia Zamarripa said Mexican officials were working with the agency to find the origin of the tunnel in Juárez.

Smugglers have used storm drains in El Paso to cross illegally into the U.S. for some time, officials said.

"They try to abuse the usage of the storm-drainage systems in order to make their entries into the north," Border Patrol Agent Ramiro Cordero said. "But when they do so, they run the risk of getting stuck or injuring themselves when they take these risks."

He said he was surprised that the drug traffickers would tunnel under the river to get to the U.S. He said most officials thought it would be a barrier.

"This is something we never thought of and it was surprise, surprise," he said.

He said agents found clothes and gym bags inside the tunnel that could belong to the 17-year-old suspect or to the tunnel diggers.

Officials use seismic sensors, infrared and magnetic sensors in looking for tunnels. The tunnel diggers had to break through a concrete wall in the storm drain on the El Paso side, officials said.


they show an inside Pic of the tunnel here hop...

http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/06/narcotunel-debajo-del-rio-bravo.html

thopkins22
06-28-10, 10:49
they show an inside Pic of the tunnel here hop...

http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/06/narcotunel-debajo-del-rio-bravo.html

The comments on that blog are cute.

Artos
06-28-10, 13:55
the narcos are going to own the govt this next go round.

Tamps. gubernatorial candidate assassinated

June 28, 2010 12:26 PM

Tamaulipas gubernatorial candidate Rodolfo Torre Cantu was ambushed and killed in Ciudad Victoria earlier today, six days before elections were scheduled to begin, reported Mexican newspaper El Universal.

Family and close sources of the victim confirmed his death, and said four other people might also be dead.

Torre was shot on a road near the municipality of Soto La Marina.

Polls reflected Torre was a clear favorite. No more details are available.

VooDoo6Actual
06-30-10, 14:36
redacted.

Artos
06-30-10, 15:49
hop, how do you think the narcos are holding up with alex?? Go here and put it in the loop. Gonna go straight up the rio.

http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/USTX0166?zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar&from=today_nontropical_map

VooDoo6Actual
06-30-10, 19:10
redacted.

theblackknight
06-30-10, 19:11
Haybale hider

http://www.itstactical.com/2010/06/30/youll-never-look-at-hay-bales-the-same/#more-5983

tampam4
06-30-10, 19:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVpMwqv7QM

the smugness and "I'm better than you and you have no idea of nothing" attitude of that man is unbearable. To avoid getting banned, I'll leave it at that.

scottryan
06-30-10, 19:57
Oh sure, the Pershing foray into Mexico was a resounding success; not.


That doesn't matter.

Belmont31R
06-30-10, 20:05
That doesn't matter.




Since WW2 our lack of will to attack the SOURCE has cost us big time.


Korea- never did anything to China.


Vietnam- primarily stayed in Vietnam giving NVA a safe haven.


GW- We had over 400k allied soldiers, and stopped short of removing Saddam.


Afghanistan- W. Pakistan is a safe haven for jihads, and the HVT's are there.


Mexico- Border region is staging ground for cartel attacks, human smuggling, drug running etc. We won't send anyone there to even "help" clean up, and don't even defend on our own territory.

Irish
06-30-10, 20:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVpMwqv7QM

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!

thopkins22
06-30-10, 20:54
Collectively OUR elected officials etc.

The system is BROKEN @ the moment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVpMwqv7QM

That's glorious. Make condescending remarks and try to move past the actual question and then say something blatantly untrue.

Will a wall work? Not in this world. Will 25,000 troops work? Not a chance in hell. But let's not pretend that a porous border is acceptable or that it's not porous at all.

The opposition always makes it out to be about gun nuts or racists. I'm not racist at all, hell I'm in favor of allowing significantly more people into this country legally than we do currently.

I would like someone to ask this congressman how many people he thinks the minutemen have killed.

Artos
07-01-10, 07:36
Shots fired from Juárez hit El Paso City Hall
Thursday, July 1, 2010 | Borderland Reporter El Viento
By Daniel Borunda
El Paso Times

Police said the bullet flew through the window, then through an interior wall before hitting a picture frame and stopping.

El Paso, Texas - Several gunshots apparently fired from Juárez hit El Paso City Hall on Tuesday afternoon.



No one was hurt, but nerves were rattled at City Hall in what is thought to be the first cross-border gunfire during a drug war that has engulfed Juárez since 2008.

El Paso police spokesman Darrel Petry said investigators do not think City Hall was intentionally targeted but rather was struck by stray shots.

"It does appear the rounds may have come from an incident in Juárez," Petry said.
City Hall, whose east and west sides are covered by glass windows, sits on a hill about a half-mile north of the Rio Grande.


About 4:50 p.m., city workers were going about a regular day when a bullet penetrated a ninth-floor west side window of the office of Assistant City Manager Pat Adauto.

The building was not evacuated, but several secretaries with windows facing Juárez described the incident as scary. Several police officers were sent to City Hall. A police crime scene investigator could be seen taking photos of the building.

Petry said an inspection by police and city staff found that City Hall was hit by seven gunshots, which appeared to be losing velocity when they struck. Six of the rounds hit stucco walls on the north and south sides of the building. Two bullets were recovered -- the one that went through the window and one that bounced off an exterior wall. The size of the bullets was not disclosed.

"Any time somebody takes a shot at City Hall, it's of great concern to us," El Paso Mayor John Cook said. "It's OK if people take political shots at us, but this is unacceptable."

Police said that an investigation into the shooting continues and that they would be contacting authorities in Juárez.

El Paso police said the time the gunshots hit City Hall coincides with a shooting in west Juárez on Bernardo Norzagaray boulevard, which runs parallel to the Rio Grande.

Authorities said a Mexican federal police officer was killed during an attack by gunmen near a Smart supermarket on Norzagaray boulevard.

Chihuahua state police identified the dead man as Domingo Hernández Espinoza and said that two other people were wounded. Investigators found 40 bullet casings from an AK-47 and other firearms.

A Mexican federal police Blackhawk helicopter and a smaller helicopter were flying in circles over west Juárez after that shooting. A Border Patrol helicopter was later flying on the U.S. side.

More than 1,300 people have been murdered in Juárez this year as a war continues relentlessly between the Juárez and Sinaloa drug cartels.

Daytime shootings, grisly mutilations and ambushes of police have become common.
Attacks on government leaders in Mexico have also increased.

But Tuesday's shooting was thought to be the first time that bullets shot in Juárez hit El Paso during the current violence, Petry said. The last time bullets fired in Juárez landed in El Paso was probably celebratory gunfire during New Year's Day in 2000, he said.

Similar cross-border shootings have occurred in other cities. Last September, the University of Texas at Brownsville was closed for a weekend after a building and a parked car on campus were hit by bullets fired during a shootout across the border in Matamoros, Mexico

VooDoo6Actual
07-01-10, 15:29
redacted.

Irish
07-02-10, 15:47
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38050468/ns/world_news-americas

HERMOSILLO, Mexico — A massive gunbattle between rival drug and migrant-trafficking gangs near the U.S. border left 21 people dead on Thursday, prosecutors said.

The clash occurred in a sparsely populated area about 12 miles from the Arizona border — a prime corridor for immigrant and drug smuggling. Mexican media said the gunbattle was on the road connecting Altar and Saric.

Sonora's Attorney General's Office said in a statement that nine people were captured by police at the scene of the shooting, six of whom had been wounded in the confrontation. Authorities at the scene found seven rifles.

El Dario said after the fray police seized 19 high-powered weapons and 11 late-model vehicles.

Officials did not say why the gunfight had broken out, but powerful and well-armed Mexican gangs often fight for control of smuggling routes into the United States.

In a city on another part of the U.S. border, gunmen killed an assistant attorney general for Chihuahua state and one of her bodyguards.

After being chased by armed assailants through the darkened streets of Ciudad Juarez, the vehicle carrying Sandra Salas Garcia and two bodyguards was riddled with bullets Wednesday night.

Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Attorney General's Office, said the second bodyguard was seriously wounded.

Salas was responsible for evaluating the work of prosecutors and special investigations units in Chihuahua.

On Thursday, unidentified men also left a head outside the house of the favorite for Ciudad Juarez mayor, Hector Murgia, who is running for Mexico's main opposition Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, before the vote in 12 states Sunday.

Drug violence has killed more than 4,300 people in recent years in Ciudad Juarez, which borders El Paso, Texas.

More than 23,000 people have been killed by drug violence since late 2006, when President Felipe Calderon began deploying thousands of troops and federal police to drug hot spots.

Artos
07-04-10, 08:33
people of mex are spooked...plants closed on Monday. Election day & i hope not all the good candidates have been whacked.

U.S. consolate in Monterrey put out another no travel advisory from Mier to Matamoros to Monterrey. That would be from Roma to Brownsville TX. HWY 2 has been a killing field recently.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Drug gang violence casts shadow over Mexico elections
Saturday, July 3, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Gerardo
By Julian Miglierini
BBC News, Mexico City

MEXICAN ELECTIONS JULY 4th
•14 of Mexico's 31 states holding elections
•12 of them choosing new governor
•Elections also for state deputies, mayors and councils




"Violence has started to form part of the daily landscape of Mexico"

Lorenzo Cordoba
Electoral expert, UNAM


Sunday is election day in more than a dozen Mexican states, with voters set to choose governors, state deputies and mayors.

Attention will not just be on the results but on how polling day unfolds given the wave of violence that has marred campaigning in some areas.

Mexico's powerful drug gangs have been blamed for much of the violence, a sign, according to some, of the growing influence of organised crime in the country.

For months, candidates in many of the 14 states holding elections have complained of intimidation by alleged criminal gangs that has forced them to adopt special security measures and limit their campaigning in high-risk areas.

In areas of the country worst-hit by the drugs conflict, which has left some 23,000 people dead since late 2006, political parties admit they have found it hard to find citizens willing to run for office.

One person ready to stand was Rodolfo Torre Cantu of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), who was favourite to be elected governor in the north-eastern state of Tamaulipas.

Mr Torre had spoken about his priority, if elected, to boost security in Tamaulipas, a key battleground between two powerful gangs, the Gulf Cartel and the Zetas, over drug-smuggling routes into the US.

But on 28 June, gunmen ambushed a convoy carrying Mr Torre and his team, shooting him and four of his aides dead.

Mr Torre's murder - the highest-profile political killing in Mexico since the assassination of presidential candidate Luis Donaldo Colosio in 1994 - has deepened concerns over how Mexican democracy is suffering at the hands of organised crime.

"There is an escalation in the influence of the drug cartels in Mexican politics," says Lorenzo Cordoba, electoral expert from the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM).

Many see the threats and intimidation of this year's election campaigns as evidence of how Mexico's drug conflict has permeated into the political system.

"Almost all members of my campaign team have received dozens of calls," Xochitl Galvez, a candidate for governor of the state of Hidalgo, told the BBC recently.

The callers "identify themselves as members of organised crime", she added.

The head of the National Action Party (PAN), Cesar Nava, also said recently that many of his party's candidates had received threats which he attributed to the Zetas.

A mayoral candidate for the PAN in Tamaulipas was killed in an attack in May.

The violence has reignited the debate about President Felipe Calderon's decision to take on the cartels and deploy thousands of troops in violent hotspots.

Decoys

The candidates on the ground have meanwhile learned to take extreme precaution when out trying to win votes.

President Calderon urged unity in the face of the violence Take for example the northern state of Chihuahua, where Ciudad Juarez - Mexico's most violent city - is located.

The state's electoral institute was forced to ask for extra protection for candidates who are afraid of campaigning in areas like the valley east of Juarez, a crucial drugs route into neighbouring US territory.

Jorge Abraham Ramirez, the PRI's candidate for state legislator in Ciudad Cuauhtemoc, in central Chihuahua, says that he has taken special security measures on the campaign trail.

"We do not make our daily schedule public, and many times we use decoys. We announce we are heading for one place and then carry it out it another," he told the BBC.

Alex Lebaron, a fellow candidate in Nuevas Casas Grande, Chihuahua, told the BBC that his team had decided not to hold rallies during the evening and that they kept a low profile when canvassing some areas.

Disruption

Many in Mexico think that local elections are the perfect chance for the drug gangs to flex their muscles - mayors control local police forces and, by being in charge of specific territory, are valuable targets for the cartels' pressure tactics.

Concern is now focused on how violence could disrupt election day and dissuade voters from going to the polls.

The federal authorities say they will deploy extra security forces to make sure the election goes according to plan and that safety for voters can be guaranteed.

Electoral officials sound optimistic.

"Many said we wouldn't find enough people to man the ballot stations around the state," says Fernando Herrera Martinez, president of the Chihuahua electoral institute. "But we are ready, 100%, to hold the election."

But the violent campaign, electoral export Lorenzo Cordoba believes, shows how Mexicans citizens have become all too used to news of drug-related crime.

"It's a regrettable scenario, in which the violence has started to form part of the daily landscape of Mexico," he says.

VooDoo6Actual
07-04-10, 19:32
Edited.

geezerbutler
07-04-10, 21:54
I think this definitely fits into the thread.


I sent this to several LE border contacts last week.


Watch this video and be disgusted.


The time is near.


The US Government under Barry Soetoro and Eric Holder is about to throw the US Border Patrol Under the Bus.

I guess when there aren't any more ridiculous "borders", and therefore no "illegals" to arrest, they will task the BP with confiscating guns and books.

Here is the video. This lady probably has Barry's cell#.


http://www.verumserum.com/?p=15447&cpage=1#comment-661192

GEEZER

VooDoo6Actual
07-06-10, 17:19
redacted.

jklaughrey
07-06-10, 17:29
Nice vid Hop, thanks to you and your comrades sir. Give them my thanks!

geezerbutler
07-06-10, 20:07
Not sure if this is in the Thread...


All the cartel death and dismemberment information that's fit to print.


http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

Artos
07-06-10, 20:34
most of my posts come from borderland...it's the best up to date site i trust in general when passing along info of the big stories.

many posts confirm / follow up what gets posted on the narco blogs days before.

VooDoo6Actual
07-11-10, 19:35
redacted.

Safetyhit
07-11-10, 21:21
Getting to be a smaller version of the Sunni vs Shiite (or tribal hostilities in general) crap, this withstanding the vastly different motives.

I say that because it is almost at the point where you would rather bad guys "A" and "B" simply extinguish, or at the very least diminish each other en masse.

Artos
07-12-10, 07:53
There is a vid worth watching in the link & a pic of what to appears be an MS13 killed along the border. Man, this one hits home hard hop.

sigh...the rumors of hiring on the central american thugs is coming to pass. This will reallly complicate & prolong the whole situation imho.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/07/chronicles-from-terror-island-part-ii.html


It’s impossible to blend in around these towns, where everyone knows everyone. No outsider can hide here, between walls shot through 3 times between February and June, and the murder of the man who most likely would have been the next mayor of Valle Hermoso.

The visitor arouses a mixture of curiosity and a sense of intense awareness among the locals.

Ordinary people ignore any mention of the tragedy, much less a direct question. They look away and lower their voice to change the subject. Hopefully, after several minutes of petty small talk, mistrust of the stranger eases and the stories flow like a catharsis, but with no names, dates and places.

Nothing to identify victims, or the talker who disclosed his grief during a moment of release.



In the capitol, Ciudad Victoria, public officials, politicians, academics, journalists and notables avoid any compromising position and resort to euphemisms: the clashes, bombings, kidnappings, murder, barbarism are all labeled “incidents”. The drug traffickers and their assassins are “La Gente” The People, “ La Maña” The Mafia, “Las Comadres de Gloria” The Friends of Gloria, “Los de La Letra” Those of the Letter. For the Army they are simply known as aggressors “agresores”.

The press is a parody of itself. Front pages full of society news. Insides full of civic bulletins. The police page only mentions traffic accidents; in other circumstances, nobody would know how bad driving really is in Tamaulipas. Radio and television are harmless.

Corruption is an integral part of local journalism and the war of the cartels divided loyalties in the newsrooms. Some paid the price: eight journalists were kidnapped on March 8, five of them are still unaccounted for. Now all are under the same threat: “plata o plomo” silver or lead, take the money or die. Serve one cartel or the other?

The People have their own spokespersons and reporters who work for them. They call you into the editor’s office, you can write this, you can’t write that. Los Narcos are the real newspaper publishers and news directors. Self-censorship thrives. The real problem is that often you don’t quite know who you’re speaking to or who you’re writing about. You live in fear of making mistakes.

Los Narcos all call themselves the good guy, the bad thing is you don’t know who’s who.The war between the Gulf Cartel and Los Zetas is not limited to the control of the Plaza”, the streets. It’s also a battle for the hearts and minds of those who will submit in return for a bit of peace.

They issue press releases to clean up their image and vilify their enemies. They distribute flyers door to door and spread rumors thru online social networks. The propaganda shapes perceptions.

A woman walks sadly on the side of the road.” What are you doing here alone?” They ask from the trucks labeled CDG, or XXX, or Z-40. “Don’t you know it's dangerous?” Tearfully, she explains that a man just stole her car and left her there. “The car was old but it was all I had.” She is a teacher and earns a pittance.

“Hop in” They say. They open a suitcase full of dollars. “Put your hand in, grab what you want,” They tell her. “Take more, all you can hold, and tell what happened here.” The story has a half dozen versions, according to the faction that’s telling it.

In another story, They help two young women recover a stolen truck and kill the thieves. In all the versions, Los Narcos give justice to the poor.

Even the extortion has a benevolent face. Los Narcos control all the informal economy in the places they dominate. Before, the vendors paid bribes to the police and the inspector. They offer an administrative simplification. “As of today you only pay us and we’ll take care of the rest. Nobody will bother you again.”

The old customs have been lost in Tamaulipas. Excursions are limited, reunions are only safe at home. You eat at restaurants for business only. You drive with the radio off to listen for any shooting nearby. You dress differently: no boots or wide belt buckle or cowboy hat. Nothing that resembles the Narco stereotype. Trucks and new, more expensive SUV’s remain in the garages and old modest cars are purchased for everyday use.

Businesses close early, even in cities where violence is still not endemic. If the bustle of the state capital ends at nine o'clock at night, people obey a sunset curfew in the smaller towns. Some people are in their homes by late afternoon.

The only reason some of the border communities in the “Frontera Chica” have not been emptied completely is because some of the inhabitants have no means to cross the border and flee into Texas, or anywhere else in Mexico for that matter.




Moving from one point to another in Tamaulipas is a gamble you don’t want to lose.

In the military checkpoints there are a few routine questions: “Where did you come from?” “Victoria”
“And where are you headed?” “To Valle Hermoso, sir”
“What do you do?” “I am a teacher”
The right answers and tone are rewarded with a “Pasale”, go ahead. Travelling in a dusty sedan really helps.


The blockades of Los Narcos are more rude. They do not stop everyone, mostly those that look out of place. License plates from another state are equivalent to a red light. Driving in a Suburban or a 4 x 4 pickup is to invite disaster.

It is best to convince them you do not to represent any threat, but that is becoming more difficult.

The war has new players. The response of the Zetas to the alliance between the Gulf cartel, the Sinaloa Cartel and La Familia Michoacána, has been to recruit Mara Salvatrucha gang members. The reinforcements come from Honduras or El Salvador. They are young, all tattooed. It is going to get worse.

Society is caught between two evils and fighting for its life without weapons. But some of the rich people are moving into another phase and building small private armies. There are rumors of a Tampico businessman who hired a dozen Israeli mercenaries. We are headed for a civil war where everyone is the enemy.

Artos
07-17-10, 07:33
hmmm...i'm not sure what to think of terrorist type tactics with the narcos. we talking copycats or strange bedfellows??

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The Car Bomb and the Lure of the Feds
Saturday, July 17, 2010 | Borderland Reporter Buggs



The mayor of Ciudad Juárez, José Reyes Ferriz said that the explosion of a car in that city was intended to attract federal forces.

In a radio interview with Jose Cardenas, the Mayor said that around 1900 hours, an armed group dropped off a person dress as a police officer, who was shot and the men drove away.

There was an immediately emergency call to report the execution of a man.


Minutes later elements of the federal police arrived and they thought that the person might still be alive. A renowned doctor, whose office is nearby, went to the person who was first believed to be a federal police officer.

Federal police began inspecting a suspicious parked car that appeared to be Ford Taurus according to the images captured on Channel 5. Inside the vehicle was an explosive device that was about ten kilograms of C-4 explosives and a cell phone that was used as a trigger.

Seconds later the vehicle exploded splitting it in half. The front of the vehicle crashed into one of the federal patrol trucks, this is why police initially though the suspicious car had hit the patrol truck before the explosion.

The doctor who was assisting the injured person was standing and was one of the first to receive the full impact of the bomb causing him to die instantly.

In addition to the doctor, the federal agent who was inspecting the vehicle died, while other police officers sustained minor injuries.

VooDoo6Actual
07-23-10, 06:33
redacted.