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PMC X-TAC 5.56 M855 62 Grain Full Metal Jacket with Steel Core
$319 per 1000
$12 shipping
Palmetto State Armory (http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/1101.php)
Wasn't this stuff supposed to be LE only in the beginning?
I'm a little leary of PMC after the last few Bronze Kabizzles to hit the boards. :eek:
Bronze Kabizzles
Kabizzles? Now I'm feeling bamboozled. I have not heard of this. I've always had good luck with the Bronze 55 grn.
Have a link?
I didn't save any of the links, but I think it was probably posted on Barf. In the thread there was a comment about the incident not being the first Bango reported on the boards.
Eddiesketti
06-03-10, 08:10
Is this stuff any good or taking a second look at?
i just got some. ill let you know when i shoot it
i just got some. ill let you know when i shoot it
Same here. I just received a bunch myself.
PMC X-TAC 5.56 M855 62 Grain Full Metal Jacket with Steel Core
$319 per 1000 through Memorial Day
$12 shipping
Palmetto State Armory (http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/1101.php)
Prices are still the same. Not bad if the stuff shoots well.
GermanSynergy
06-10-10, 11:54
I've got an upcoming carbine class at USTC and need some ammo. If this stuff turns out to be decent I'll order a case.
going to shoot today. report soon.
Pumpkinheaver
06-10-10, 16:25
Cool would like to know how it performs.
I went to Cabelas looking for this ammo, but couldn't find it. They have every other round there, but none of this yet.
They do however have pallets of PMC bronze.
I picked up 100 rnds to play with from Palmetto State Armory on Tues.
Went to the range and all went boom no problemo.
I fired about 100 rnds of Federal XM193 and 100rnds of the PMC X-Tac and the Federal seemed to be loaded hotter, but I don't have any chrono data or anything to back that up. Just my impression.
No issues with feeding or extraction, not that I expected any. Shot close enough to point of aim at about 30-35 yds.
I've always had good luck with PMC and this was no different.
-RD62
I picked up 100 rnds to play with from Palmetto State Armory on Tues.
Went to the range and all went boom no problemo.
I fired about 100 rnds of Federal XM193 and 100rnds of the PMC X-Tac and the Federal seemed to be loaded hotter, but I don't have any chrono data or anything to back that up. Just my impression.
No issues with feeding or extraction, not that I expected any. Shot close enough to point of aim at about 30-35 yds.
I've always had good luck with PMC and this was no different.
-RD62
That's good to hear since I have 1000 rounds sitting here waiting on me to "play" with it. :D
I hope to try out some at longer range within the next week.
GermanSynergy
06-10-10, 21:56
Thanks. Gonna order 1000 rds tonight.
Pumpkinheaver
06-10-10, 22:09
I picked up 100 rnds to play with from Palmetto State Armory on Tues.
Went to the range and all went boom no problemo.
I fired about 100 rnds of Federal XM193 and 100rnds of the PMC X-Tac and the Federal seemed to be loaded hotter, but I don't have any chrono data or anything to back that up. Just my impression.
No issues with feeding or extraction, not that I expected any. Shot close enough to point of aim at about 30-35 yds.
I've always had good luck with PMC and this was no different.
-RD62
How was the accuracy? Did you happen to chronograph any of it?
shot 40 rounds of pmc bronze, 20 of some 55 gr remington, then 60 of pmc x-tac, I'll be buying the xtac from now on. PS, If youre in the Myrtle Beach SC area, I dont remember the name of the shop but there is a gun store on 501 with an attatched range near the mall, dont waste your time going there. DPMS .223 rifles for 1200 $ and Bushmasters for 1600$. :eek:
fullmetalredhead
07-08-10, 21:49
I compared this ammunition against PMC Bronze .223, American Eagle XM193 5.56, Remington UMC .223, and a number of higher end rounds at the range tonight. This stuff is the real deal IMO.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/X-TACgroup.gif
Of the four "cheaper" ammo brands tested, I found X-TAC to be the most accurate/consistent; PMC Bronze and Remington UMC were about the same in my hands; and American Eagle XM193 was by far the least accurate.
InfiniteGrim
07-09-10, 03:21
Here are results from two different outings....
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2716/moaa.jpg
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5448/93977552.jpg
These were shot with a bipod and thats it. No bags or rests.
The last 180 rounds i have will stay in SHTF stash and out of my plinking stash. As you can tell, my rifle REALLY likes the PPU M855.
Pumpkinheaver
07-09-10, 23:18
I'll have to try some if I can find it in my area.
This stuff looks decent. I'll give it a go as well.
Looks good, I will try some too.
I finally came across some of this ammo at some pissant gun store in Tucson. I only shot a box of it, but it seemed like decent ammo.
The Koreans make pretty good ammo.
Just picked up two boxes to test, i'd never even heard of it.
You might find this funny though, since i'd never heard of it i asked the guy (owner of the shop/range i was at) if it was steel cored like M855 stuff (since it was green tipped, i'm not a retard)....his answer "nope, lead core FMJ". I thought..hmmm i dont know about that.
lol why do i keep finding out that gunshop people dont know crap about the stuff they sell and USE.
Call me stupid, but will M855 penetrate range steel? I see a lot of guys mention running classes with it, but I've also seen a lot of ranges post that if you penetrate the steel, you just bought it.
Thanks!
Call me stupid, but will M855 penetrate range steel? I see a lot of guys mention running classes with it, but I've also seen a lot of ranges post that if you penetrate the steel, you just bought it.
Thanks!
I think it would depend on steel thickness and hardness... aka the range. I know some ranges won't allow m855. I don't shoot my rifle at a range, just out in the country, so this is all from what I have read.
Bumping this back up. Does anybody have any updated data on this or long term reports after say shooting a 1000 rnds? I'm looking at picking some up. I've used the PMC bronze and while I've seen reports that is underpowered (by up to 200fps out of a 16" barrel), haven't had any problems with it running in my DDM4v1. Just wondering how the X-TAC was fairing. Anybody with a chrono tested it against other 5.56 loads?
Thanks
InfiniteGrim
03-15-11, 18:12
Bumping this back up. Does anybody have any updated data on this or long term reports after say shooting a 1000 rnds? I'm looking at picking some up. I've used the PMC bronze and while I've seen reports that is underpowered (by up to 200fps out of a 16" barrel), haven't had any problems with it running in my DDM4v1. Just wondering how the X-TAC was fairing. Anybody with a chrono tested it against other 5.56 loads?
Thanks
If you want I can chrono some, but I only have 5 rounds left so it will give you an idea of the velocity.
My brother did just buy some and it ran fine in his LMT. One thing I noticed was he was getting extractor swipes on the brass which to reloaders means really high pressure and to back the load down a bit.
Thanks, I'd definitely be curious to see the results.
So based the "extractor swipes"--apologies but I don't really know what is meant by this-- you're thinking is the xtac is loaded a little on the hot side? Interesting as most of what I see on the pmc bronze is it's loaded weak. Good to know it ran without incident though.
Hopefully i might be able to write up a report on how this ammo preforms on live targets. I'll either be using barnes tsx, TAP, or X-Tac...so either way i'll be able to report back. That is if the pigs will cooperate.
So based the "extractor swipes"--apologies but I don't really know what is meant by this-- you're thinking is the xtac is loaded a little on the hot side? Interesting as most of what I see on the pmc bronze is it's loaded weak. Good to know it ran without incident though.
I think he's talking about the extractor gouge that you'll find on the case rim. And it happens on 223 ammo too. Usually from an over gassed gun, but also from hot ammo.
Any updates? Range reports?
Eurodriver
08-21-11, 04:55
Any updates? Range reports?
AIM was selling this stuff for $289 per thousand with free shipping.
I bought three cases from them a few weeks ago.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=87200
For an extra bit of info: Today I shot an 8" group of 20 rounds at 300 yards with PMC XTAC M855 with this upper. I was shooting at an 8" Shoot-n-c target and there were zero shots off the sticker. Just over 2.5 MOA. That seems to be typical for this upper and M855.
I like it alot better than the Federal XM855.
How do you get free shipping?
Robb Jensen
08-21-11, 07:57
I've shot almost 6k rounds of the X-Tac 55gr M193 and had no issues.
I've shot a whopping 60 rounds of the x-tac through my bcm 14.5 middy with no problems... seemed alright hitting pop bottles at 100 yards using an aimpoint
I have used the X-TAC with no issues what so ever in my stock DDM4-V1. I have ran a total of 400 rounds.
Good all purpose round that will get the job done. Good prices are floating on the net so snatch them up before others do like myself.
Bumping this back up. Does anybody have any updated data on this or long term reports after say shooting a 1000 rnds? I'm looking at picking some up. I've used the PMC bronze and while I've seen reports that is underpowered (by up to 200fps out of a 16" barrel), haven't had any problems with it running in my DDM4v1. Just wondering how the X-TAC was fairing. Anybody with a chrono tested it against other 5.56 loads?
Thanks
Using a 16" Midlength, at 5300 ft elev., 85 def F, no wind, I chronoed an average 2926 fps (vs. 3100 claim) for the 62 gr PMC Tac-x.
To compare,
2674 (vs. 2870) for BVAC 64 gr PSP
2715 (vs 2855) for the 69 gr PRVI
3290 (vs 3550) for the UMC 45gr HPBT
saddlerocker
08-27-11, 21:52
I noticed the "Extractor Swipes" on my brass as well.
My first thought was soft brass, because im shooting IMI193 (as well as various other .223) and nothing else has marks like the X-Tac.
I believe I read somewhere else about it having soft brass.
All shot fine though, real happy with it.
I've fired about 400 rounds of 62gr green tip X-Tac with zero malfunctions. I accuracy tested it yesterday with my fairly new PSA carbine and AimPoint PRO RDS.
My target was the center of the head portion of Law Enforcement Target #F-TQ19ANT-A (letargets.com). 5 Shot groups @ 100y averaged 1 9/16 inches from center to center of farthest apart shots. The rifle was fired off a bench using sand bags on a warm sunny day at 100' above sea level with very little wind.
I suspect that groups would have been a mite smaller if I had used a traditional scope and a scope-friendly target with a precise aiming point. However, the PSA Carbine came with the PRO, so I tested the ammo that way. In comparison, this same carbine will average 1.0 inches with PPU 69gr Match ammo.
Have fired 500 rounds of 62gr X-Tac so far with zero issues.
Bottom Line: X-Tac is excellent general purpose ammo at a good price! Basically it is a civilian version of the military M855 round.
I noticed the "Extractor Swipes" on my brass as well.
My first thought was soft brass, because im shooting IMI193 (as well as various other .223) and nothing else has marks like the X-Tac.
I believe I read somewhere else about it having soft brass.
All shot fine though, real happy with it.
Could be that or a fast propellant. A lot of these foreign ****s produce .223 ammo with too fast of a powder. They get velocity with a sharp pressure curve.
That WOLF M193 that was on the scene briefly was a classic example.
I'd be doubtful on the brass hardness unless someone posted some Rockwell figures compared to another flavor of brass.
I did a quickie chrono on 5 rds of this last Sat. Only shot it out of my 20"......It averaged about 3150 fps. (15 ft. from the muzzle)
That's movin pretty good.
Even faster was the mid 90's Radway Green SS109 type stuff. It was clocking over 3200. I clocked some Canadian C77 at about the same as the Xtac.
Some of that Radway had some jookie propellant in it. It was hot, but would short stroke a Colt Rifle.
I think the powder had a fast burn rate with an early pressure curve.
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