View Full Version : AR-15/M4 pistol grips
ParkisMaximus
05-28-10, 18:40
since there is a thread for butt stocks, i took a look for pistol grip threads and didnt see any so i figured id start one.
which are yall using??
i prefer the CAA tactical pistol grip. fits great in my hand. so natural.
I'm a MIAD guy and have been since the show began back in what,
2004. All my AR's are thusly equipped, except for the oldie SP1
ultra-retro. I use the large rear, and A2 front strap.
ParkisMaximus
05-28-10, 19:05
ive used a MIAD before, its better than a stock pistol grip but it just doesnt feel right in my hand.
ParkisMaximus
05-28-10, 19:27
are you using just the ergo grip or the ergo sure grip? the sure grip looks like you would be holding a sword.
DaBears_85
05-28-10, 19:33
since there is a thread for butt stocks, i took a look for pistol grip threads and didnt see any so i figured id start one.
which are yall using??
i prefer the CAA tactical pistol grip. fits great in my hand. so natural.
I go back and forth between the MOE and the A2. I like the MOE cause it doesn't have that slit that runs up the side of the MIAD and it fits my hand very well. It's also light...
I'm currently in the process of making my rifle as light as possible. The A2 weighs 2.8 and the MOE weighs 2.7 with the insert so I'm gonna be sticking with that one for now. I know a tenth of an ounce doesn't sound like much but It's a game of ounces. They add up.
Check out this thread about Stark Equipment. Some very respected M4C members talk highly about the Stark SE- pistol grip.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=30169&highlight=Stark
Tango Down Battle Grip; to me it keeps a similar angle as the A2, which I would have kept the A2 but the little finger rest is not comfortable with my hand size.
I've used the MOE(angle is funny for me), RRA Hogue(accidentally melted it with mineral spirits), ERGO(slippery when wet) and the A2(don't like the finger divider).
Cagemonkey
05-28-10, 19:48
2 A2's and 1 Command Arms G26.
are you using just the ergo grip or the ergo sure grip? the sure grip looks like you would be holding a sword.
The regular ambi version
Ridge_Runner_5
05-29-10, 00:01
Hogue.
Replaced it with a MOE for a while, but hated it...uncomfortable, and actually gave me hand cramps, so I went back...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/Shooting/DSC_0006.jpg
Ergo grips on all mine.
You want mine:rolleyes:? I did not like it and it just sits in a box. I have one MIAD and the rest are Tango down. I like them about equally, maybe the MIAD a slight bit more
Captains1911
05-29-10, 00:16
miad in its largest configuration, anything else feels too small for me.
kaiservontexas
05-29-10, 00:38
MIAD is my favorite.
Jake Bauer
05-29-10, 01:53
Magpul MOE works great for me
I try not to over think things...I have been using MOE's for awhile now and I believe I have tried all the others and settled on MOE's with all thing considered, price being maybe the biggest....plus you can not beat hidden logo's in your gear as far as zombie repelling goes:cool:
http://i50.tinypic.com/6yl260.jpg
ChicagoTex
05-29-10, 04:26
miad in its largest configuration, anything else feels too small for me.
Same here, I've got gorilla hands and while smaller grips are basically usable for me, they're quite a bit less than ideal (especially in situations where I have to remove my support hand from the rifle, like for reloads or malf. clearances).
I've yet to personally find anything WORSE than an A2, although the Troy grip coming out that's basically a standard AK grip might do it (I hate those pencil-thin military AK grips).
ForTehNguyen
05-29-10, 08:01
magpul MIAD
ParkisMaximus
05-29-10, 09:15
i just really dont like grips without finger grips on them. and the CAA isnt to big or to small. it fits my hand perfectly.
I use the Magpul MOE currently. I may be changing my furniture over to FDE, so I may go with a different grip when I do that. I HATE finger grooves, so whatever I get won't have one of those. I also find the Hogue and Ergo grips way too damn thin.
MIAD for me. But I've found that the medium back strap fits me best, so future builds will probably get MOEs.
Over the years I've used A1, A2, Hogue, TD, Ergo, MIAD and MOE grips. I've ended up with MOEs on most and A1 or A2 grips on a few. MOEs fit my hand very well.
arizonaranchman
05-29-10, 16:07
Hope this isn't considered a hi-jack, but since we're talking about grips... I want one with the trap door to stow a firing pin, etc but the only one I seem to see is the Magpul that has that extended web up the back of the frame which I do NOT like. Who makes a standard type A2 grip with trapdoor? Thx...
Ergo on my old Bushmaster and a Tango Down on the new Noveske VTAC.....................
Hope this isn't considered a hi-jack, but since we're talking about grips... I want one with the trap door to stow a firing pin, etc but the only one I seem to see is the Magpul that has that extended web up the back of the frame which I do NOT like. Who makes a standard type A2 grip with trapdoor? Thx...
MIAD. It comes with a backstrap without the extended web and a front strap with the finger rest. You'll have to buy the extra cost bottom plug for the firing pin.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=635399
ChicagoTex
05-29-10, 16:28
A2 grip with trapdoor storage, 6th one down. (http://www.bushmaster.com/products.asp?cat=13)
arizonaranchman
05-29-10, 16:33
Wow thanks alot fellas, answer in minutes as usual. This site is fantastic... Much appreciated.
Just ordered the Bushmaster A2 stow-away grip for my middy...
Tango Down Battle Grip; to me it keeps a similar angle as the A2, which I would have kept the A2 but the little finger rest is not comfortable with my hand size.
I've used the MOE(angle is funny for me), RRA Hogue(accidentally melted it with mineral spirits), ERGO(slippery when wet) and the A2(don't like the finger divider).
looks like its just you and me... this is the only grip i use. as you say, it's basically an improved A2, which is why i dig it.
little more ergonomic, little better retention, but basically the same size and position with no stupid nub- AND it covers the gap.
Hope this isn't considered a hi-jack, but since we're talking about grips... I want one with the trap door to stow a firing pin, etc but the only one I seem to see is the Magpul that has that extended web up the back of the frame which I do NOT like. Who makes a standard type A2 grip with trapdoor? Thx...
I think the Tango Down pistol grip has a trap door too
I think the Tango Down pistol grip has a trap door too
it does.. more of a trap rubber plug, but there it is.
Magpul MIAD with the smallest backstrap and no finger-notch frontstrap.
i love the standard a2 pistol grip. :D
dennisuello
05-31-10, 01:46
MOE came on my M&P15, I like it and feel no reason to change. The only one I'd like to try is the Stark.
TD - love it. Just ordered a Stark for my current middy build...
Liked the MIAD in medium profile...so went with the MOE.
I use A-2 grips that have been stippled with a soldering iron.
Original A1 style grip; can't stand the A2 or anything with finger grooves. But I'm the same way on DA revolver stocks because I like to be able to adjust my grip a bit on the fly if necessary.
And, BTW, a rubber magazine cover for the M1/M2 carbine mag makes a dandy bottom cover for the grip and allows storage. Not sure if it's completely waterproof but it is definitely a very close fit. A hair dryer on high helps get it fit on and shaped the first time and thereafter it works like it was designed for the job. The hardest part is finding the covers these days.
I replaced the standard grip on my 6920 with the Magpul MOE. It fits my hand well and has storage. I haven't tried any others.
outrider627
06-03-10, 17:34
I'm using a MIAD with the flat front strap and medium backstrap, essentially the MOE size. I just finished stippling it, not because it truly needed it, but because I had the day off from work and I was bored :D. I got to handle a rifle with the upcoming MOE+, I think I'll be switching to that.
MOEs for me. In identical configuration, the MOE feels better than the MIAD to me.
Just got the MOE. Love it!
I figered I would never get the MIAD to a configuration that I would be happy with.
ghostman1960
06-03-10, 23:31
MIAD
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt45/ghostman1960/002-5.jpg
deadduck357
06-04-10, 00:05
Tango Down & A2
Stark on my SPRs and A2 on everything else.
tr1kstanc3
06-04-10, 07:43
I prefer the Ergo that came with my LMT lowers over the stock A2 and the MIAD/MOE grip. I need a grip with a little bit of 'give'.
Hogue w/ finger grooves for me.
MIAD's with medium backstraps,
one MOE & one HK416 grip.
I handled a bunch of grips before I settled on the MIAD. I have it with the biggest back piece and the front piece that includes the trigger guard. It feels really comfortable. The A2 grip always felt way to small.
cronus5116
06-04-10, 17:50
Tango down battlegrip on both of mine
I try not to over think things...I have been using MOE's for awhile now and I believe I have tried all the others and settled on MOE's with all thing considered, price being maybe the biggest....plus you can not beat hidden logo's in your gear as far as zombie repelling goes:cool:
http://i50.tinypic.com/6yl260.jpg
Sorry for the Highjack, but whose ambi selector/safety is that?
Sorry for the Highjack, but whose ambi selector/safety is that?
Check it out here pal....
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=54648
How does the MOE compare to the MAID? As in which front and back straps would you use on a MAID to get a MOE? Does the MAID have the possibility of being slimer than the MOE?
How does the MOE compare to the MAID? As in which front and back straps would you use on a MAID to get a MOE? Does the MAID have the possibility of being slimer than the MOE?
It's basically the medium insert with no finger grooves on the pistol grip.
I went with the MIAD on this AR, but, realistically, for me I see no point not to use the MOE, as the stock configuration is exactly how I use it.
I have a bunch of extra back straps, and I guess front straps, that I'll never use.
kaltesherz
06-05-10, 12:09
I had a MOE on my M4/203 overseas and really liked it but had to take it off when flying back and it was "liberated" (along with my MOE stock) by a USAF baggage handler. I used a Tango Down on my work M4 after that (as technically it's "issued" as I took it off one of our old M14 Sage stocks) but use a MIAD with no finger groove and the smallest backstrack at home. It's basically a improved A1 pistol grip and I keep 3 M856 tracer rounds in the bottom plug.
Pumpkinheaver
06-05-10, 12:10
I have a Magpul M.O.E. on mine.
I hated how small the A2 grip was, switched to an Ergo ambi. The Ergo was better, but still not quite there. Enter the Stark grip, simply outstanding, I'll be getting another one for the older AR soon when I make some more upgrades.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk58/kwrangln/new%20ar%20build/newar60.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/FP2000H/040101_0782.jpg
Have used the MIAD and liked it but this feels better on my bare hands. The MIAD seems better suited for gloved use.
TangoDown and MIAD are used here. Prefer TangoDown for now. It fits my hand better.
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