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mnoe82
06-01-10, 19:59
I just got these knives yesterday. Spyderco Delica 4 and Endura 4.

Wanted to let you see what Spyderco's new colors looked like compared to what you're probably already using.

I apologize for the quality of the photos. I don't have a nice camera.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01620.jpg

Those are hats directly from CYRE. The one on the left is Cotton (about 4 years old) and the right is brand new nylon.http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01621.jpg

Magpul FDE
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01622.jpg

Magpul FDE
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01624.jpg

Magpul FDE
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01626.jpg

Blackhawk FDE
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01629.jpg

Magpul Hat
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01630.jpg

More Multicam
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/clevelandairsoft/DSC01631.jpg


Here's some links to reviews by NutnFancy (I apologize for the length and his polarizing nature)

Endura http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy#p/u/2/LNEvcmLtVYM
Delica http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy#p/u/3/O4K5iHf7GpE

SeriousStudent
06-01-10, 21:10
A friend has a Delica on a pass around, and I'm toting it for a week.

I do actually like the colors. I'm wearing khaki Dockers at work during the week. I like how the color is a bit less obtrusive than the tacikewl black knives.

It's also not as shiny as the black FRN, which I was never fond of.

VG-10 seems to work pretty well, on that price point. You can find the Delica for under $60 on fleabay.

jmcrawf1
06-01-10, 21:45
MNOE, where can you find the brown ones? I'm not having any luck.

mnoe82
06-01-10, 21:54
I ordered mine from yourcornerstore.com

I've always had great results from them, fast shipping and GREAT prices.

Endura 4 http://yourcornerstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=734_1971_4615&zenid=a96ee0ae44cedc436f81f9699e23f8d4

Delica 4 http://yourcornerstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=734_1971_4614&zenid=a96ee0ae44cedc436f81f9699e23f8d4

Looks like they're out of stock right now, but they have really fast turnaround on getting new stock.

Good luck

SeriousStudent
06-01-10, 21:58
MNOE, where can you find the brown ones? I'm not having any luck.

Right here:

http://newgraham.com/store/product/7187/Delica-Flat-Grind-Brown-PE/

New Graham are good folks. Mike and New Graham have the same sort of rep in the knife business that Paul Buffoni has at BCM. I have bought probably 12-15 knives from him.

SeriousStudent
06-01-10, 22:04
If you order from yourcornerstore, be aware of their policy on backorders.

You do not get a refund if they are out of stock, you get store credit.

A friend has been waiting on a full flat grind Manix 2 for several months, and was just told he would not see it until September. No refund offered, he has to try and find another knife on their site he wants.

I'll be happy to PM you his username, and you can verify the details.

I'd rather pay 3-5 dollars more, and see real-time inventory, and know I was going to get a knife. Not trying to start a urinating contest, just help a brother out. ;)

mnoe82
06-01-10, 22:10
If you order from yourcornerstore, be aware of their policy on backorders.

You do not get a refund if they are out of stock, you get store credit.

A friend has been waiting on a full flat grind Manix 2 for several months, and was just told he would not see it until September. No refund offered, he has to try and find another knife on their site he wants.

I'll be happy to PM you his username, and you can verify the details.

I'd rather pay 3-5 dollars more, and see real-time inventory, and know I was going to get a knife. Not trying to start a urinating contest, just help a brother out. ;)

No problem man. I have ordered a total of 3 knives in my life and all of them were from there, cheap, in stock, and no problems.

But if they are shady, piss on em. If you've had bad experiences with them I'll keep my mouth shut on recommending them in the future haha. I'm a total newbie to the knife world.

ST911
06-02-10, 01:33
A friend has a Delica on a pass around, and I'm toting it for a week.

I do actually like the colors. I'm wearing khaki Dockers at work during the week. I like how the color is a bit less obtrusive than the tacikewl black knives.

Now, if we could only get them to do away with the black pocket clips on those other color options.

Vic303
06-02-10, 08:34
Now, if we could only get them to do away with the black pocket clips on those other color options.

There's always the shiny silver ones...:D

Or Duracoat!


Personally I favor the wire-clip style from Spydie.

SeriousStudent
06-02-10, 18:37
mnoe82, my apologies if I gave the impression that they are shady. That was not my intent. I just wanted folks to understand their ordering policies.

I have personally had issues where I ordered a product from Company X, blithely assuming that because they did not ship in 30-60 days, I could obtain a refund. That's not the case with all vendors.

I'm a fan of sights like BCM, G&R, New Graham and others that allow you to check the inventory. If they don't get it to you, they will send you the refund post-haste. That's all I was really driving at.

I like those Spydies you posted, and hope they bring you years of trustworthy service. I'm a big fan of that company, and have probably a half-dozen or so sitting in the safe now.






I reeeeeeeally need to sell some knives.... :p

SeriousStudent
06-02-10, 18:40
Skintop911 - I agree with Vic303. I'm an inch away from pulling the trigger on a brown Delica, and then just using some flat tan Duracoat on the clip.

It's just as easy to do two when I do one, so if you want one....... :D

mnoe82
06-02-10, 18:50
I'm thinking of doing one in flat green and the other in flat black. Looking at the knives, I can tell ill wanna duracoat the hardware holding the knife together as well. The pins and screws really stand out to me.

Agile53
06-02-10, 18:58
PM into you SS & ordered one of the brown Enduras today.

Got an OLD Endura that I've run w/ since the mid 80's, some 15k +

miles on her, time to give her some down time.

Thx for the heads up on these mnoe82.

SeriousStudent
06-02-10, 21:05
Agile53 - PM received and message sent.

I wonder about the durability of Norrell's baked-on finishes? It's supposed to last longer that Duracoat.

I know Robb (gotm4) uses the Brownell's stuff. But it isn't cheap at $32 a can.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1145/Product/TEFLON_MOLY_OVEN_CURE__GUN_FINISH

Might be worth spraying some other stuff while you were at it.

Moose-Knuckle
06-03-10, 06:44
Good looking knives, though I wished they would put a dull finish of some sorts on the blades. Kind of pointless to have a combat knife with a FDE handle but a nice bright shiny blade to gleam rays of light.

IMHO the handles appear to be more of a CB (coyote brown) than FDE.

Vic303
06-03-10, 09:21
I'm thinking of doing one in flat green and the other in flat black. Looking at the knives, I can tell ill wanna duracoat the hardware holding the knife together as well. The pins and screws really stand out to me.
Biggest problem I can see in wanting to color the hardware on the knife is the heads of the pins tend to be proud, and they'll wear off quickly, plus surface prep on a part that tiny is not going to be easy.

mnoe82
06-03-10, 09:58
I've never duracoated anything. I didn't know you had to prep the surface. That's probably gonna change things.

Vic303
06-03-10, 10:45
If you want it to stick well yeah, surface prep is helpful. Your cheap option is to get an artists paintbrush (small) and a jar of modeling paint in your favorite tan, and just reapply as needed. Cheap, workable, and if you are on the two-way range, as many goodly folk here on M4C are in reality, it is small/light enough to consider taking in your field gear if you think it might wear off on a mission, and possibly compromise your position.

wingspar
06-03-10, 13:51
Good looking knives, though I wished they would put a dull finish of some sorts on the blades. Kind of pointless to have a combat knife with a FDE handle but a nice bright shiny blade to gleam rays of light.

IMHO the handles appear to be more of a CB (coyote brown) than FDE.

I don’t think many think of a Delica as a “combat knife”. I know I don’t. My EDC is an older Delica with a combo blade, and it’s great for that purpose. I also like the new brown Delicas with FFG blades, and I plan on getting one since they are a limited edition, and once they are gone, they are gone. It’s a nice size knife. On the Spyderco forum, the brown is thought of as “moca brown”. :)

Moose-Knuckle
06-03-10, 13:55
I don’t think many think of a Delica as a “combat knife”. I know I don’t. My EDC is an older Delica with a combo blade, and it’s great for that purpose. I also like the new brown Delicas with FFG blades, and I plan on getting one since they are a limited edition, and once they are gone, they are gone. It’s a nice size knife. On the Spyderco forum, the brown is thought of as “moca brown”. :)

Well it is open to speculation as any knife carried into harm's way would be essentially a "combat knife". Folders are more popular than ever especially with troops deployed abroad due to their size and weight.

ST911
06-03-10, 16:49
Skintop911 - I agree with Vic303. I'm an inch away from pulling the trigger on a brown Delica, and then just using some flat tan Duracoat on the clip. It's just as easy to do two when I do one, so if you want one....... :D


Agile53 - PM received and message sent. I wonder about the durability of Norrell's baked-on finishes? It's supposed to last longer that Duracoat. I know Robb (gotm4) uses the Brownell's stuff. But it isn't cheap at $32 a can. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1145/Product/TEFLON_MOLY_OVEN_CURE__GUN_FINISH

Might be worth spraying some other stuff while you were at it.


Biggest problem I can see in wanting to color the hardware on the knife is the heads of the pins tend to be proud, and they'll wear off quickly, plus surface prep on a part that tiny is not going to be easy.

I tried rattle can, modeling paint, and nail polish. None lasted any reasonable length of time. It's possible that I am painting inept, however. :D


I don’t think many think of a Delica as a “combat knife”. I know I don’t. My EDC is an older Delica with a combo blade, and it’s great for that purpose. I also like the new brown Delicas with FFG blades, and I plan on getting one since they are a limited edition, and once they are gone, they are gone. It’s a nice size knife. On the Spyderco forum, the brown is thought of as “moca brown”. :)

The advantage to the Delica is that it is small enough to be legal in most places, small enough to conceal extremely well, yet substantial enough to perform a number of utility and defensive functions.

Not a "combat knife", no, but a lot of knife in a little package.

SeriousStudent
06-03-10, 17:07
.......

The advantage to the Delica is that it is small enough to be legal in most places, small enough to conceal extremely well, yet substantial enough to perform a number of utility and defensive functions.

.......

And inexpensive enough that if it gets pitched into a trash bin, I'm not wailing about losing a Strider/Busse/Whatever.

ST911
06-03-10, 17:11
And inexpensive enough that if it gets pitched into a trash bin, I'm not wailing about losing a Strider/Busse/Whatever.

Yes, another big advantage.

wingspar
06-03-10, 20:01
Well it is open to speculation as any knife carried into harm's way would be essentially a "combat knife". Folders are more popular than ever especially with troops deployed abroad due to their size and weight.

A pencil, screwdriver, meat thermometer, or what ever is handy can be used as a weapon. True, I’ll bet there are hundreds or thousands of Delicas in the pockets of our military in Iraq and Afghanistan, tho I don’t think most would define a Delica as a “combat weapon”, it can certainly be used as one.


The advantage to the Delica is that it is small enough to be legal in most places, small enough to conceal extremely well, yet substantial enough to perform a number of utility and defensive functions.

Not a "combat knife", no, but a lot of knife in a little package.

I would agree 100%. It’s a great little EDC knife.