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D. Christopher
06-05-10, 00:24
Anyone know what model Glock these guys are using?


When St.-Sgt. S. fast-roped down from an air force Black Hawk helicopter onto the Mavi Marmara Turkish passenger ship on Monday morning, he did not expect to be landing in what he called “a battlefield” and facing off against a group of “murderous mercenaries.”

The 15th and last naval commando from Flotilla 13 (the Shayetet) to rappel down onto the ship from the helicopter, S. said on Thursday that he was immediately attacked by what the IDF has called “the mob of mercenaries” aboard the vessel, just like the soldiers who had boarded just before him.

Looking to his side, he saw three of his commanders lying wounded – one with a gunshot wound to the stomach and another with a gunshot wound to the knee. A third was lying unconscious; his skull was fractured by a devastating blow with a metal bar.

As the next in the chain of command, S., who has been in the Shayetet for three and a half years, immediately took charge.

He pushed the wounded soldiers up against the wall of the upper deck and created a perimeter of soldiers around them to begin treating their wounds, he said. He then arranged his men to form a second perimeter, and pulled out his 9 mm. Glock pistol to stave off the charging attackers and to protect his wounded comrades.

The attackers had already seized two pistols from the commandos, and fired repeatedly at them. Facing more than a dozen of the mercenaries, and convinced their lives were in danger, he and his colleagues opened fire, he said. S. singlehandedly killed six men. His colleagues killed another three.

On Thursday, S. sat down with The Jerusalem Post at the Shayetet’s base in northern Israel for an exclusive interview, during which he described the dramatic events aboard the Mavi Marmara on Monday; he is being considered for a medal of valor.

“When I hit the deck, I was immediately attacked by people with bats, metal pipes and axes,” S. told the Post. “These were without a doubt terrorists. I could see the murderous rage in their eyes and that they were coming to kill us.”

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177445

HK45
06-05-10, 00:36
Glock 17

PRGGodfather
06-05-10, 04:21
D'oh! Never get them wet or feed them after midnight. ;)

D. Christopher
06-05-10, 05:23
HK45, Thanks.

And PRGG, did you post in the wrong thread? What are you talking about?

My question was what model Glock does the Israeli Shayetet 13 use? It has nothing to do with kicking in doors or caliber choices or cheap ammo. Do you have any specific details on this team's Glocks or this story?

Pumpkinheaver
06-05-10, 12:22
Interesting I didn't know they used Glocks. I guess I assumed they would use some home grown IMI product.

Robb Jensen
06-05-10, 12:31
Likely 17s or 19s.

Bulldog7972
06-05-10, 14:34
IIRC, the most commonly used pistols over there are the Glock 17/19 and the Sig 226/228

willowofwisp
06-05-10, 22:42
Glock 17/19 like previously stated..now i wonder if he had to do a mag change before dropping 6 people

Pumpkinheaver
06-06-10, 01:56
Glock 17/19 like previously stated..now i wonder if he had to do a mag change before dropping 6 people

Wonder what ammo they where using as well.

Mr Gone
06-06-10, 03:44
I wouldn't say these guys are an example to be followed.

Fast roping a half dozen guys onto a boat with hundreds of people on board isn't the most sound of decisions.

Hat Creek
06-06-10, 09:48
Elements of the IDF and multiple LE entities there went to the ported G17 a number of years ago.

Luke_Y
06-06-10, 10:49
Anyone know what model Glock these guys are using?



http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177445

Glock 17 or 19


Glock 17/19 like previously stated..now i wonder if he had to do a mag change before dropping 6 people

Doubt it, but likely did if there was a break in the action. ;)


I wouldn't say these guys are an example to be followed.

Fast roping a half dozen guys onto a boat with hundreds of people on board isn't the most sound of decisions.

FWIW I wouldn’t want to be on a boat that Shayetet 13 was boarding... Unless I was a hostage. :D

The (probably politician made) decision to send guys down the rope with paintball/pepper ball guns as a primary likely contributed to the result...

Abraxas
06-06-10, 12:03
D'oh! Never get them wet or feed them after midnight. ;)

That is funny

D. Christopher
06-06-10, 21:00
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D. Christopher
06-06-10, 21:13
PRGGodfather,

You are a funny man! I laughed till I hurt.

R/

Dave

HK45
06-06-10, 21:24
None of us know what really happened. I've spent way too much time in that part of the world and if there is one thing I know its that neither side can be trusted to tell the truth.
Back on topic, Israel also bought some G17's with a manual safety.

Pumpkinheaver
06-07-10, 21:00
Wonder if they where using ball ammo?

HK45
06-07-10, 21:08
All I ever saw over there is Nato ball 9mm. Doesn't mean thats all they use but its all i ever saw over a wide swath of the Israeli military.