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Belmont31R
06-09-10, 13:02
Lots of these coming out lately but heres another one...:cool:


Now for sale: http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=463


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/BM31R/0e5bbce6.jpg

noops
06-09-10, 13:35
So it appears to be for medium-high grippers and sits in the webbing of your hand, yes?

Skyyr
06-09-10, 13:44
Looks like the handstop portion beats everything else out there.

Unfortunately, unless use something other than their QD-method for attachment, I'm not interested.

Belmont31R
06-09-10, 13:47
So it appears to be for medium-high grippers and sits in the webbing of your hand, yes?


I suppose thats one way of using it but it would work "traditionally" as well.

noops
06-09-10, 13:48
Any links to more pictures? I'd like to see the other/mounting side too.

Belmont31R
06-09-10, 13:58
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/BM31R/57064dcd.jpg





Oh and if you look at the 1st pic above thats a new T1 mount....:cool:

noops
06-09-10, 14:03
Thanks Belmont.

graffex
06-09-10, 14:07
Very interesting...

Titleist
06-09-10, 14:18
Looks nice, only thing I don't like about side hand stops is that you usually need two of them if you switch shoulders, but it does help keep grip consistent.

mattpittinger
06-09-10, 16:31
Seems like a very interesting concept of running one at 9 o' clock and one at 3. If you had a X-300 or similar light at 12 o' clock I think it could be very effective for the "thumb over the top" crowd. Cool idea LaRue.

Could one on each side double as a barricade rest?? Just a thought, has anyone got to play with one yet?

PatEgan
06-09-10, 17:50
Looks nice, only thing I don't like about side hand stops is that you usually need two of them if you switch shoulders, but it does help keep grip consistent.

Great point, I hadn't thought about the need for two for going to the weak side. I like the simplicity of LaRue's version, but the versatility of the Magpul.

Speaking of which, they're coming out with a Version 2 of the AFG this Summer...
Pat

JohnnyC
06-09-10, 18:02
I may be speaking out of turn here, but it seems to me like this isn't very useful in the position in the photos. Stop me if I'm wrong but handstops were originally designed to keep you from putting your hand in front of the muzzle of small SMG's with very little real estate (think MP5K's or the KAC PDW). The idea is that if for whatever reason your hand goes forward you won't become the next member of the body modification club. This makes sense if you're pulling the gun out from your body and using sling tension to stabilize the gun like the SAS guys we've all seen video of. Current doctrine stresses pulling the weapon into your shoulder, essentially rendering a handstop worthless weight and wasted rail space since you're pulling away from the stop. Turned around like a bunch of people did with the KAC makes sense.

Someone correct me if I'm way off base, I'm here to learn, but I don't see the usefulness of something like this unless you utilize it backwards and put tension on it like an AFG. If you're using it as an index point, it seems a little big.

99HMC4
06-09-10, 18:06
That doesnt look like a Pearce grip extension at all....:rolleyes:

JTrusty
06-09-10, 18:18
Current doctrine stresses pulling the weapon into your shoulder, essentially rendering a handstop worthless weight and wasted rail space since you're pulling away from the stop...

I wouldn't call it worthless space nor worthless weight...

Well over 2 years ago we sat down and designed a complete line of components to achieve a very specific set of goals. How to maximize the available space on a carbine length rail system while still be able to positively maintain a consistent grip and engage your weapon mounted flashlight with the least amount of movement in your support hand. The end result was our complete line of low profile rail mounted components - which includes sling mounts, hand stops and offset flashlight mounts.

As you can see below, our hand stops are extremely low profile. They can be mounted either forward or rearward pulling double duty as both an index point and for rearward pressure. Running a pair ( or in my case three ), brackets the hand and ensures a consistent grip each and every time with perfect hand placement behind your weapon mounted light.

Until you actually puts your hands on a side mounted stop, you truly can't understand the benefits. Try it and you will be a believer. ;)

http://photos.gearsector.com/galleries/Carbine%20Images/00.jpg

http://photos.gearsector.com/galleries/Carbine%20Images/01.jpg

Belmont31R
06-09-10, 19:34
I may be speaking out of turn here, but it seems to me like this isn't very useful in the position in the photos. Stop me if I'm wrong but handstops were originally designed to keep you from putting your hand in front of the muzzle of small SMG's with very little real estate (think MP5K's or the KAC PDW). The idea is that if for whatever reason your hand goes forward you won't become the next member of the body modification club. This makes sense if you're pulling the gun out from your body and using sling tension to stabilize the gun like the SAS guys we've all seen video of. Current doctrine stresses pulling the weapon into your shoulder, essentially rendering a handstop worthless weight and wasted rail space since you're pulling away from the stop. Turned around like a bunch of people did with the KAC makes sense.

Someone correct me if I'm way off base, I'm here to learn, but I don't see the usefulness of something like this unless you utilize it backwards and put tension on it like an AFG. If you're using it as an index point, it seems a little big.



For those people who just like gripping the rail yet want something to index off of they work good when reversed (so the sloped portion is facing forward).


The AFG works for some, and not for others. The couple I bought are sitting in the parts bin. Much prefer the LaRue FUG.

thopkins22
06-09-10, 19:44
Thanks for posting the Gear Sector version Jason. I'm getting ready to order a pair of yours as the low profile appears to be a much better solution(at least for my uses) compared to others on the market.

mattpittinger
06-09-10, 20:26
What about running this type of handstop in conjunction with an AFG? Might be a little busy, but it would fit like a glove.

militarymoron
06-09-10, 21:38
another use for a side-mounted handstop (flat side facing forward) is supported shooting from barricades. some teach you place the rail against the side of the wall to brace it with the hand (pool cue style), with some forward pressure. a handstop helps in this regard. some folks just jam the front of the rail against the barricade but that can deflect the barrel. placing the rail against the wall using the handstop ensures that the barrel isn't touching the wall.

JTrusty
06-09-10, 21:46
another use for a side-mounted handstop (flat side facing forward) is supported shooting from barricades.

Absolutely correct and also another excellent use for side mounted handstops. We sponsor the Noveske Shooting Team and they are doing exactly that in the 3 gun matches. Albiet a bit more violently. But it definitely validates the durability of our handstops. They have been taking a beating and are no worse for wear. :)

mattpittinger
06-09-10, 22:19
another use for a side-mounted handstop (flat side facing forward) is supported shooting from barricades. some teach you place the rail against the side of the wall to brace it with the hand (pool cue style), with some forward pressure. a handstop helps in this regard. some folks just jam the front of the rail against the barricade but that can deflect the barrel. placing the rail against the wall using the handstop ensures that the barrel isn't touching the wall.

That was my first thought

tobasco
06-09-10, 22:35
http://photos.gearsector.com/galleries/Carbine%20Images/00.jpg

http://photos.gearsector.com/galleries/Carbine%20Images/01.jpg

really digging that color. how did you paint it?

JTrusty
06-09-10, 22:42
really digging that color.

Thanks brother! :)


how did you paint it?

I put the color scheme together and than shipped off the components to Amelon Firearms. They did the Cerakote.

JohnnyC
06-10-10, 02:13
Thanks for the explanation guys, that makes a lot more sense now. I'm diggin' the Gear Sector now that you mention being able to stabilize it against a barricade. I might have to place an order.

Kissel
06-10-10, 05:55
If you turn that LaRue around with the curve facing forward, you are approaching the ideal stubby VFG for a SBR.

Deaj
06-11-10, 23:48
If you turn that LaRue around with the curve facing forward, you are approaching the ideal stubby VFG for a SBR.


Indeed!

Curare
06-12-10, 12:22
Does that Aimpoint T1 mount in the Larue picture look different than what I'm used to?

Titleist
06-12-10, 12:34
Yes. It's something new, and as far as we're aware no other shots of it are out there yet.

Surf
06-12-10, 12:39
I just finished another basic carbine class. I run my new guys with bare bones set ups, irons and no fore grips. I also run my rifle that I teach with in this manner. I am an old die hard fore grip type who uses it more as an index, but every time I give one of these classes and run my rifle bare bones and I always consider dumping the whole fore grip / hand stop thing. :)

eva05
06-12-10, 21:05
I recently stopped using vert grips and VFGs in favor of a KAC hand stop. But if Larue makes it, it's generally the answer for me. Can't wait for these to drop to Team members :-D

Belmont31R
06-13-10, 17:47
Heres another pic which also shows the new T1 mount:


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/BM31R/56ac3be8.jpg

Kentucky Cop
06-13-10, 21:33
The hand stops look awesome. Is that a 6920 or a new 6720? Just curious......

Ky Cop

texag
06-13-10, 23:01
The hand stops look awesome. Is that a 6920 or a new 6720? Just curious......

Ky Cop

Looks like a Larue stealth 12" upper with 9" rail on a colt M16 lower to me.

Tom Swift
06-14-10, 00:02
I'm just wondering what the deal is with the OBR Lite's can someone fill me in?

Belmont31R
06-16-10, 10:16
Now listed for sale: http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=463


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/BM31R/3496f3fa.jpg

Cascades236
06-16-10, 16:34
Looks like they run them doubled up, is that the recommended use?

they
06-16-10, 16:51
LOVE IT... i'm glad someone is innovating :D

JTrusty
06-16-10, 16:59
Looks like they run them doubled up, is that the recommended use?

I am sure you can use them however best suits your particular shooting style.

Interesting that they chose to market them in pairs though. This is the technique we came up with and have been pushing since we first released ours. You can read more about that in the Military Times Article (http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/?p=4006). Even more interesting is that they chose a nearly identical marketing image. Here is one we posted back in September of '09

http://www.gearsector.com/img/misc/forum/gsr/sbr/13.jpg

Either way, looks like you get a pair when you buy the theirs. You can relegate them singularly to two different weapons, or run them as a pair to bracket your hand. I will tell you though, when you run them in pairs, hand placement is dead consistent each and every time you grab your weapon.

:)

Dave_M
06-16-10, 18:55
Looks good to me. I especially like the price. However, I probably will not be purchasing these anytime soon as most of my rifles are already equipped with KAC handstops that I use for index points. Instead of one on the front, I overhang my index finger right on the front of the rail system as an index point (obviously I wear gloves!)

Moose-Knuckle
06-17-10, 09:18
Now listed for sale: http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=463


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/BM31R/3496f3fa.jpg

I'm digging that concept, really would help with indexing. Also would be tits in the dark.

eva05
06-17-10, 10:09
I'm also digging the modular rail panels that come with the set up. Ordered mine yesterday. Still waiting for it to ship though >o<