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Anyone wish to comment of this Charging Handle?
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cart=692557&cat=28&noCookiePassThrough=Y&
Had one; dumped it for a PRI Gas-buster Charging Handle with Mil. Fat Latch.
The Badger puts too much counter pressure on the right side of the charging handle and really wears out the anodizing.
Had one; dumped it for a PRI Gas-buster Charging Handle with Mil. Fat Latch.
The Badger puts too much counter pressure on the right side of the charging handle and really wears out the anodizing.
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Will the PRI Gas-buster Charging Handle fit any AR15?
Had one; dumped it for a PRI Gas-buster Charging Handle with Mil. Fat Latch.
The Badger puts too much counter pressure on the right side of the charging handle and really wears out the anodizing.
Resulting in...worn annodizing? I've got fat latches on my CH's and they all wear through the anno. Wash, rinse and replace as needed.
How about-
They're too big and catch on just about everything...
They dig into you on transitions or when you let the gun hang on the sling unless you're wearing armor or a chest rig. If you are wearing armor or a chest rig, they snag the bolt out of battery.
After the first time it snags the bolt out of battery, and you get a very loud "click" instead of a bang, you'll take it off and sell it to a gungamer.
How about-
They're too big and catch on just about everything...
They dig into you on transitions or when you let the gun hang on the sling unless you're wearing armor or a chest rig. If you are wearing armor or a chest rig, they snag the bolt out of battery.
After the first time it snags the bolt out of battery, and you get a very loud "click" instead of a bang, you'll take it off and sell it to a gungamer.
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You are meaning the PRI Gas-buster Charging Handle
http://www.talonarms.com/talonarms/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=279
Just want to be sure what you are refering to.;)
Robb Jensen
05-27-07, 20:11
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You are meaning the PRI Gas-buster Charging Handle
http://www.talonarms.com/talonarms/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=279
Just want to be sure what you are refering to.;)
Really?
I have done roughly 15K rounds in training using Gas-Busters, and a bunch of rec. shooting and competition using Gas-Busters and have never had a problem with anyone of them that I own. On the other hand I've sheared two charging handle roll pins that hold the latch into the charging handle and I've had when using Badger latches on my chest rig many times. It's what caused me to get a Gas-Buster the first time before I even owned a suppressor. I now don't own any Badger latches.
The original question was asked about "Charging Handle w/Badger Ordnance Tac Latch"...
This monstrosity is what my comments referred to-
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/images/702.jpg
no one is going to ask about it's use? I was under the impression that that sort of latch was generally used on rifles with larger optics that would block the charging handle, like varmint models, in which case catching them on your vest while running or whatever probably wouldn't be an issue?
No, I'm not going to ask about application.
I have a fair sized optic on my AR10, and I manage to get by without one.
With all due respect to Marty, that thing is an abomination on fighting gun.
YMMV...
Yes that badger was made for rifles with larger scopes.
The comment about it putting extra torque on the charging handle refers to when it is used on such rifles. When you pull on the charging handle that far out away from the center, it puts much more stress on the CH and it will rub against the right side of the inside of the rear of the upper much more. Likewise the front left side of the CH will rub on the inside of the upper.
It's probably not enough to matter but you CAN feel it.
I ditched my badger for a gen 2 badger but that SOB poked me even more.
I am now using the PRI big latch and will continue to do so.
it FEELS so much nicer and does make it easier to operate IMHO.
Well I'll be odd man out here. On Pat Rogers recommendation I put them on both my personal rifles and my County issue rifle. They have never given me any problems. Of course YMMV.
I have both- I have used the badger for years, but I tried the PRI GB on my last build
After careful consideration, I am ditching the pri...I have a new badger latch inbound
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=54487#post54487
Just how does the 'gas buster" in design really differ from a Std. charhing handle that would come with a new AR? They sure have a much higher price.:mad:
Robb Jensen
05-28-07, 10:10
Just how does the 'gas buster" in design really differ from a Std. charhing handle that would come with a new AR? They sure have a much higher price.:mad:
IIRC the PRI gas buster is a billet part.
Higher price doesn't always mean just higher price. Sometimes some things that are higher prices are actually higher quality. The PRI gas buster is one of those things. If your AR is a safe queen, a range toy or something you just use to impress your brother-in-law. More than likely you will never see or need the benefit of the PRI gas buster. As someone who's broken a charging handle in half during hard use I can say the PRI gas buster is money well spend.
Here's some pics of a regular charging handle with a Badger Gen II latch and a PRI gas buster with the flat latch (my wifes, she doesn't like the PRI big latch).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/SWpics016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/SWpics015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/SWpics014.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/SWpics013.jpg
Ok but other then the PRI design being a tougher in design and material what else does it offer? That gas buster name implys it is doing something the Std. charging handle does not. Is this a fact or just slick marketing?:rolleyes:
Again I am asking will the PRI charging handle fit on my AR without any changes to my AR?
Robb Jensen
05-28-07, 10:36
Ok but other then the PRI design being a tougher in design and material what else does it offer? That gas buster name implys it is doing something the Std. charging handle does not. Is this a fact or just slick marketing?:rolleyes:
It's stronger, straighter and diverts gases (when using a KX3 or sound suppressor) to the right side of the gun keeping much less of the gases from reaching your eye. Hence the little channels you can see on top and bottom of the charging handle.
Like I said some of use are ARs very hard and break all kinds of things and benefit from the Gas Buster.
Some don't. More than likely brother-in-law won't know the difference.
Will I have to make any changes to my AR for the PRI charging handle to fit?
Robb Jensen
05-28-07, 10:41
Will I have to make any changes to my AR for the PRI charging handle to fit?
It'll fit everything I know of and won't fit a HK416.
Thanking everyone for taking the time to answer my questions regarding the PRI charging handle.;) I feel my using it with the flat type latch will be a good choice.:D
I've used a couple of the tac-latches on my AR's. Since I'm left handed, it works out fine. Doesn't catch in stuff like it does for right handers. I'll be putting them on most of my AR's.
My sister-in-law thinks it's cool - even if she doesn't know why. Did I say that out loud?
Heavy Metal
06-08-07, 10:58
I love the Gasbuster and I don't run a can.
It is stronger, easier to manipulate and will keep you from getting 'spit' on your glasses from a highly lubed upper.
I do do one thing on my PRI latches. I pull them from the CH and stone the hook to break the corners and edges and polish it up good. I use a dab of TW-25B on the hook.
This may be unecessary but I look at is as protecting the aluminum notch on the upper reciever.
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