View Full Version : HK416C finally on HK's website
variablebinary
07-11-10, 03:43
Looks neat. I'm really curious about the shooting characteristics.
The HK416 already has a thumping recoil impulse, and with the 416C having very little buffer travel, it will be interesting to see how it shoots
http://www.heckler-koch.com/HKWebText/detailProd/1928/475/4/19
http://www.heckler-koch.de/media/Products/Assault_rifles/HK416Clinks.jpg
http://www.heckler-koch.de/media/Products/Assault_rifles/HK416Crechts.jpg
HK416C
Small. Lightweight. Powerful. The ultra compact family member.
The HK416C is an ultra short cal. 5.56 mm x 45 NATO assault rifle – the smallest member of the world reknowned HK416 family. With it's 9" barrel the HK416C is small enough to be deployed in confined environments yet with the power and accuracy to achieve the objective.
Key features:
Free-floating MIL-STD-1913 picatinny handguard
New retractable buttstock design
Trend-setting rifle concept for special operations
Reliable HK-proprietary gas piston system
Gas regulation for use with suppressors/different types of ammunition
Cold forged barrel for maximum lifetime
Fully ambidextrous operation
Commonality with the HK416 family
Compact and lightweight
Reduced training time
Target usage:
Special Operations (Close Quarter Combat)
Support personnel (Personal Defence)
Para Trooper
Sweet Jesus! The stock looks bad ass.
Magic_Salad0892
07-11-10, 03:58
Holy shit. I really want a 10.5 version of that.
Actually, I want an HK-416C stock system available commercially.
11.5 KAC gun + 416C stock system *drool*
The meat grinder stock returns, to grind some more meat.
It's H&K, so it probably won't be sold to civilians.
Stock design is interesting, but I don't really see the point unless you're having a 5 year old shoot it.
It's H&K, so it probably won't be sold to civilians.
Stock design is interesting, but I don't really see the point unless you're having a 5 year old shoot it.
The stock is fully retracted in that picture, and obviously you can extend it to a proper LOP. It's to make it easier to conceal and carry in tight spaces. It's not designed for a 5 year old shooter.
eternal24k
07-11-10, 06:39
that is awesome, I would love one but probably wont ever sell them and the few that leak from PDs and whatnot will probably go for around 1k :rolleyes:
ChicagoTex
07-11-10, 06:58
That may be the flimsiest stock design I've ever seen.
I'm also not a fan of how it'll obviously interfere with manipulation of the safety/selector when in the collapsed position.
That is one awesome looking carbine. I'd definately buy one. However, do you really think H&K would put out a civilian version for the US market?
That may be the flimsiest stock design I've ever seen.
I'm also not a fan of how it'll obviously interfere with manipulation of the safety/selector when in the collapsed position.
have you ever shot a HK with a retractable stock of similar design? also how exactly does it interfere with the selector? it appears to have plenty of room to "flick it" with your thumb.
ChicagoTex
07-11-10, 12:30
have you ever shot a HK with a retractable stock of similar design?
I have not. But I would point out that previous H&K stocks had much thicker "support bars"
"also how exactly does it interfere with the selector? it appears to have plenty of room to "flick it" with your thumb."
Might just be me, I have serious "hitchhikers thumb" as well as large hands and can guarantee it'd get in my way, others may fare better.
That may be the flimsiest stock design I've ever seen.
I'm guessing that it will be pretty durable. It not only has the sliding portion around the buffer tube, but the additional collapsing bars on the sides. Three anchor points of retraction. It's all speculation of course.....
ChicagoTex
07-11-10, 12:54
I'm guessing that it will be pretty durable. It not only has the sliding portion around the buffer tube, but the additional collapsing bars on the sides. Three anchor points of retraction. It's all speculation of course.....
It's just the bars when extended.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hk416c_02-tfb.jpg
It's just the bars when extended.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hk416c_02-tfb.jpg
Ahhh......my bad. You're right, it does look a little flimsy. :(
Hot Dang:p.....that is damn near MP-7 sexy.
QuietShootr
07-11-10, 13:50
Hot Dang:p.....that is damn near MP-7 sexy.
I am pretty much the last guy to criticize something for the way it looks without shooting it, but that stock looks like something scraped out of a 19-year-old ghetto hooker's womb. Having spent some time with the original meat grinder, that thing doesn't look like anything close to comfortable to me.
I agree with CTex, that stock looks MEGA Flimsy!
CaptainDooley
07-11-10, 18:01
What was the "meat grinder" on before? I've never heard the term until this thread.
ChicagoTex
07-11-10, 18:05
What was the "meat grinder" on before? I've never heard the term until this thread
I've never encountered the term either, but I'm almost certain they're referring to the collapsible stocks found on the G3 and MP5 series weapons.
cougar_guy04
07-11-10, 20:09
I've never encountered the term either, but I'm almost certain they're referring to the collapsible stocks found on the G3 and MP5 series weapons.
Pretty much. Though, I've generally referred to it as the meat tenderizer.
John Bonham
07-11-10, 20:22
Man that thing is sweeeeeeeeeeet. :eek::cool:
I'm guessing that it will be pretty durable. It not only has the sliding portion around the buffer tube, but the additional collapsing bars on the sides. Three anchor points of retraction. It's all speculation of course.....
Yes, definitely speculation, nothing more.
1.) I wonder how reliable it will be with the shorter buffer spring.
2.) Surprised they didn't name it Kurtz, I guess they're really pursuing the American Market.
3.) That thing looks flimsy and uncontrollable, neat... but a terrible idea, IMHO, looks like an attempt at a PDW.
Kurz? You're surprised? G36C anyone?
Looks like a PDW for sure. They didn't been need to market it as one-it is being marketed to agencies- they don't use them for defense, just offense lol :-D
Kurz? You're surprised? G36C anyone?
Looks like a PDW for sure. They didn't been need to market it as one-it is being marketed to agencies- they don't use them for defense, just offense lol :-D
MP5K, HK21K, G3K sorry forgot about the G36C.
http://www.tscmachine.com/gallery.html (http://www.tscmachine.com/gallery.html)
Just seemed interesting to me, that a European manufacturer is moving to English prefixes is all.
If I could get an HK 416, I'd go with the 10'' I think that'd fit the role much better, but interesting design non the less. Effective? Eh.
QuietShootr
07-12-10, 07:14
I've never encountered the term either, but I'm almost certain they're referring to the collapsible stocks found on the G3 and MP5 series weapons.
The G3 and HK33 collapsibles had a convex buttstock with about 3 lpi checkering on it that looked for all the world like the face of an old-time meat tenderizer hammer. On the 308, this was akin to using said implement on your shoulder.
1.) I wonder how reliable it will be with the shorter buffer spring.
there're some vids on youtube about the colt pdw which uses a similar buffer/spring...and it works :p
That's a pretty short RE. What kind of BCG does this variant use?
ChicagoTex
07-12-10, 08:01
The G3 and HK33 collapsibles had a convex buttstock with about 3 lpi checkering on it that looked for all the world like the face of an old-time meat tenderizer hammer. On the 308, this was akin to using said implement on your shoulder.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l46/Syntax360/PTR/EDSC_0883.jpg
Yeeouch! Is that bare steel?
QuietShootr
07-12-10, 09:33
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l46/Syntax360/PTR/EDSC_0883.jpg
Yeeouch! Is that bare steel?
Next best thing, extremely hard rubber/plastic.
GermanSynergy
07-12-10, 13:13
Not really digging the stock.... Reminds me of my days shooting HK91's with the retractable stock.... Not a pleasant memory...... :cool:
HK_Shooter_03
07-12-10, 15:21
The G3 and HK33 collapsibles had a convex buttstock with about 3 lpi checkering on it that looked for all the world like the face of an old-time meat tenderizer hammer. On the 308, this was akin to using said implement on your shoulder.
LOL :D
Waiting for $4k uppers on the ee.:D
I saw this in London an DSEI in 2009 when they debuted it publicly. This is a very mission-specific rifle, built for a specific customer requirement. I still can't wrap my head around the 9" barrel rather than 10.5", but I think the stock design is pretty damn interesting considering the limitations of the M4/416 platform. I can't wait to get one on the range.
have you ever shot a HK with a retractable stock of similar design? also how exactly does it interfere with the selector? it appears to have plenty of room to "flick it" with your thumb.
If this stock works the same way as the 9X series collapsable does and I am assuming it does then it will not get in the way of the selector.
interesting. fancy and a little weird, but interesting.
Neat looking but how would it look in my hands? :dance3:
and it can be yours for what...$5,000 ?
Perhaps this is the runner up for the Jordanian 8" PDW being licensed for local production. Since others might be interested, why not try to sell some and cover the research/development costs?
Magic_Salad0892
07-16-10, 17:13
Pretty poor contender if you ask me.
8'' 6.8mm gun with collapsible stock >> 9'' 5.56mm gun with para stock.
Pretty poor contender if you ask me.
8'' 6.8mm gun with collapsible stock >> 9'' 5.56mm gun with para stock.
I think it's safe to assume that 5.56 NATO was part of the program requirement.
Considering price and other options, who cares.
. . . Gas regulation for use with suppressors/different types of ammunition
Interesting. A suppressor on a 5.56/9" barrel. It's unusual enough to see a suppressor company say a 10.5" barrel is ok.
Buckshot TX
07-17-10, 21:03
I saw this in London an DSEI in 2009 when they debuted it publicly. This is a very mission-specific rifle, built for a specific customer requirement. I still can't wrap my head around the 9" barrel rather than 10.5", but I think the stock design is pretty damn interesting considering the limitations of the M4/416 platform. I can't wait to get one on the range.
Could you share more info on it's intended customer & mission?
Magic_Salad0892
07-18-10, 03:58
I think it's safe to assume that 5.56 NATO was part of the program requirement.
The Jordanians ordered the 6.8mm PSD.
The stock is now available....!
TheChunkNorris
03-27-16, 05:01
The stock is now available....!
It's a clone stock and not an H&K stock.
That is a six year old post. NECRO POST WARNING.
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