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variablebinary
07-14-10, 07:39
You have to give the Russians credit for trying but there is still a huge chasm between what is issued to American forces compared to Russians.

It's clear they are modeling their enhancements and improvements after the Americans and British.

And that is a rather ambitious AK. Any Marine with an off the rack M16A4 could kill them well before they got within effective range.

Low IR signature camo but with black boots?

The Russians are so broke they cant even field their so called AK replacement, so how are they going to support all those different camo patterns.


http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/53/avtosportru.fa/0_52460_5a9c9c5c_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2814/avtosportru.fa/0_52463_95ca49d7_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3418/avtosportru.fa/0_52466_b7221e21_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3416/avtosportru.f9/0_52412_5a0b6de1_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5102/avtosportru.f8/0_523a1_26a0411e_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2814/avtosportru.f8/0_52392_993270ea_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3417/avtosportru.f8/0_523a2_4b515a17_XL.jpg
variablebinary
07-14-10, 07:40
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3417/avtosportru.f9/0_52401_ac76d9fe_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3418/avtosportru.f9/0_52403_61fc4e83_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3415/avtosportru.f9/0_52405_99372c5e_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3415/avtosportru.f9/0_5240c_fa75370_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5100/avtosportru.f8/0_523fc_2f568728_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5101/avtosportru.fb/0_52485_74215a60_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5100/avtosportru.fb/0_52484_2904e9ea_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5102/avtosportru.fc/0_524c2_a36af554_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/0/avtosportru.fc/0_524c5_72c9c37d_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3418/avtosportru.fc/0_524d9_55a92931_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3417/avtosportru.fc/0_524cb_45326714_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3418/avtosportru.fb/0_5249f_35a36e90_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/0/avtosportru.fd/0_524db_cf5ffebc_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5100/avtosportru.fc/0_524d3_ffd78bb0_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5100/avtosportru.fd/0_524f9_2e719bea_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/52/avtosportru.fd/0_524f3_b6d64f7_XL.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/722/densur1.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/103/surpatoptions.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4922/densur4.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8821/surpat1.jpg
TOrrock
07-14-10, 07:43
A lot of the cammo patterns remind me of Waffen SS circa 1945.
variablebinary
07-14-10, 08:00
Apparently one of the new patterns is called SURPAT (Survival Pattern).

A few more pics, which again, show the American influence, even down to the cut of the uniform.


http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/PERY1.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/PERY6.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/medved.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/medved1.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/den%20sur%20vest%20ruis.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/medved3.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/A%20FCB6.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/denis%201.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/PERY2.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/PERY13.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/cicilia%205.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/den%20sur%205.jpg


http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/den%20sur%207.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/PERY3.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/PERY4.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/SURPAT%20WINTER4.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/denis%202.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/surpat%20tactik.jpg
variablebinary
07-14-10, 08:01
More SURPAT

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/surpat%20tactik10.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/surpat%20tactik5.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/surpat%20tactik7.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/surpat%20tactik2.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/den%20sur%20vest%20ruis2.jpg

http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/surpat%20tactik9.jpg
Nathan_Bell
07-14-10, 08:05
VB-
You need to recall that there is a fairly large percentage of the globe that would allow a semi-competent person to sneak within useful range for that AK before your rifleman had a chance to see them. Too much desert and arid mountain mindset in your statement.
Alex V
07-14-10, 14:37
VB-
You need to recall that there is a fairly large percentage of the globe that would allow a semi-competent person to sneak within useful range for that AK before your rifleman had a chance to see them. Too much desert and arid mountain mindset in your statement.

I have to agree... The Russian/Soviet mindset was not to wage war in the sand, but in the forest. This is why Soviet tanks were green, not FDE and why they sucked so bad in Iraq. They were made to fight a war in Eastern Germany not the Middle East.

Same reason why the Mi-24 Hind had a hard time in A-Stan, its engines were made to take off from air fields close to sea level, not in the sand and at high mountain altitudes.

Its a totaly different mindset. I am sure that the US army has better training and gear, but I have a feeling if fighting in the forests of Europe a US Marine would have trouble in adapting [at first] because right now, the training [i assume] is more focused on the desert. The Russian soldier would have the ability to get within effective range of his AK. Thats not to say he will be able to hit the Marine, but he could get close enough to lol.

Never underestimate your "enemy"
chadbag
07-14-10, 14:54
After the motley group pictures, the rest don't look like russian troops at all except for the AKs. The boonie hats (especially the MC one), the "caps" like you see USMC guys wearing, etc look totally like western soldiers.

Interesting to see all the EO Techs and Aimpoints and what looks like a CAA stock on one of the AKs.
Scoby
07-14-10, 14:58
This looks like it would work well in the southeastern US.

Where can I get some? :cool:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/Scoby/RussianCamo.jpg

Scoby
theblackknight
07-14-10, 15:08
a US Marine would have trouble in adapting [at first] because right now, the training [i assume] is more focused on the desert. The Russian soldier would have the ability to get within effective range of his AK. Thats not to say he will be able to hit the Marine, but he could get close enough to lol.
/QUOTE]

We still train for the sticks.

[QUOTE]Never underestimate your "enemy"
True Dat
wahoo95
07-14-10, 15:09
[QUOTE=variablebinary;705950]
http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/medved1.jpg[quote]

What kinda gun is that?
theblackknight
07-14-10, 15:10
Hey AK guys, how would those AKs hold zeros with the optics mounted to the top receiver cover? Is that enthusiasm over capability?
dennisuello
07-14-10, 15:17
Hey AK guys, how would those AKs hold zeros with the optics mounted to the top receiver cover? Is that enthusiasm over capability?

they are mounted to the side-mount rail, not the cover.

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/images/UTG978.JPG
dennisuello
07-14-10, 15:22
http://survivalcorps.com/UserFiles/Image/medved1.jpg

What kinda gun is that?

SR-3M Vikhr (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as65-e.htm)

http://world.guns.ru/assault/sr3m_3.jpg
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-14-10, 15:41
MultiCam-ski
mr_smiles
07-14-10, 21:48
Maybe it's just me, but russian forces always remind me of southern militias. Pasty white guys with poor fitting bdu's in crazy patterns.
Belmont31R
07-14-10, 22:01
I was about to laugh at all the different patterns but then I remembered the last time I deployed I had 4 different patterns just on me.




I guess the good thing is the Russians could never afford a prolonged war with a western nation let alone NATO. They do better fighting Georgia or Chechnya, and selling their crappy equipment to the 3rd world.
chadbag
07-14-10, 22:07
The first group of pics looked like some reserve or second line troops (mixed uniforms, equipment, etc).

The later pics looked more first line.
GermanSynergy
07-14-10, 22:49
A lot of the cammo patterns remind me of Waffen SS circa 1945.

One looks identical to the 1943/44 Oak pattern.
armakraut
07-15-10, 02:06
They probably hired a waffen ss guy from circa 1945 to redesign it.
Pumpkinheaver
07-16-10, 21:04
A lot of the cammo patterns remind me of Waffen SS circa 1945.

That's what I thought as well.
DragonDoc
07-17-10, 16:51
I have to agree... The Russian/Soviet mindset was not to wage war in the sand, but in the forest. This is why Soviet tanks were green, not FDE and why they sucked so bad in Iraq. They were made to fight a war in Eastern Germany not the Middle East.

Same reason why the Mi-24 Hind had a hard time in A-Stan, its engines were made to take off from air fields close to sea level, not in the sand and at high mountain altitudes.

Its a totaly different mindset. I am sure that the US army has better training and gear, but I have a feeling if fighting in the forests of Europe a US Marine would have trouble in adapting [at first] because right now, the training [i assume] is more focused on the desert. The Russian soldier would have the ability to get within effective range of his AK. Thats not to say he will be able to hit the Marine, but he could get close enough to lol.

Never underestimate your "enemy"

I don't know about the Marines but I spent my first 18 years in the Army training for woodland combat. Everything was geared towards scrapping in the woods until OIF came along. Desert fighting is easy and woodland training more than suffices to make the transition. Now Urban and mountain warfare is a different story all together. But we are all getting a graduate level education in both.
CENTCOM_Survivor
07-17-10, 17:06
Its just a matter of time before all those patterns get mixed and matched. Every Russian soldier I saw in Bosnia (98) had different tops and bottoms. I cant recall any of them having a complete matching uniform.
GermanSynergy
07-17-10, 22:53
Its just a matter of time before all those patterns get mixed and matched. Every Russian soldier I saw in Bosnia (98) had different tops and bottoms. I cant recall any of them having a complete matching uniform.

You saw that too, huh? BTW where were u at in BiH in 98? I was in Tuzla and Sarajevo. Small world.
CENTCOM_Survivor
07-18-10, 00:42
You saw that too, huh? BTW where were u at in BiH in 98? I was in Tuzla and Sarajevo. Small world.

I was at Tuzla also, small world indeed! I was with the Cav (545th MP) as the ADC driver. The 89th did our PSD. You know Fred Killea?