*Last of the Colt LE6920's*

[USMC03]

This winter all of my AR's when through a metamorphasis, as I'm constantly figuring out what works best for me.

Something that I did on all my guns is I moved the vertical foregrip further forward, I find that this helps me "drive" the gun better. Some guys advocate moving it further foward than what I have it, but I'm some what short in stature and still need to have access to the Surefire. I have the Surefire moved as far forward as it will go. I am liking the vertical foregrip in it's current location, works well for me.

Another item that I changed was, on all of my M4 carbines, I went back to 14.5" barrels. I have been from 14.5" barrels on all my M4's to 16" barrels, and now back to 14.5" barrels.

Of the guns that I'm running an Aimpoint on (5 total), some had LaRue BUIS others had Troy Ind BUIS. A couple of years ago I didn't care for a non-folding BUIS. But after using the LaRue BUIS for a couple years, I prefer it to a folding BUIS on guns that I run an Aimpoint on. This gun had a Troy BUIS on it, I traded out the Troy Ind BUIS for a LaRue as well as added the Surefire Scout Light with LaRue Tactical Mount.

The final modification to this gun is the addition of the LMT SOPMOD stock. I had tried this stock a couple years ago and it was a decent stock, but didn't feel that it was worht the price they were charging. Late last fall, I put the LMT SOPMOD stock on one of my duty guns and ran it for a while. I really warmed up to the SOPMOD. I don't know how I ever lived without a rubber buttpad. Ergonomics were perfect. Longer length was perfect. Cheek well was perfect. Footprint of the buttstock was perfect. There was literally nothing that I didn't like about the LMT SOPMOD. Of all the M4's that I had that had VLTOR's were chaged out and a LMT SOPMOD was added.


This gun had the second S&B Short Dot on it. I put the Short Dot on another gun (new gun) and replaced the Short Dot with an Aimpoint.


Colt LE6920:

-Factory Colt LE6920

-14.5" Colt M4 SOCOM barrel

-Gem-Tech Bi-Loc A2 flash hider perminately attached

-Gem-Tech G5 suppressor

-LaRue 7.0 rail system

-Tango Down rail pannels

-Tango Down vertical foregrip

-Tango Down Battle Grip pistol grip

-Aimpoint ML3 (2 MOA version)

-LaRue Tactical Cantalever Aimpoint Mount

-LaRue Tactical Back Up Iron Sight (BUIS)

-KNS non-rotating hammer / trigger pin set

-LMT SOPMOD Stock

-Mid West Industries rail mounted sling swivel

-Blue Force Gear VCAS Sling

-Surefire M600 Scout light with clicker tail cap and incandesent bulb

-LaRue Tactical Scout light mount.


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02123.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02124.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02128.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02129.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02126.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02127.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/DSC02125.jpg


-Jeff

[Paulinski]

Jeff - I have to admit all your AR's are super nice. Congrats on the fine weapons.

[MaceWindu]

*Drinking Hatorade* I hate Jeff al and his cool toys! *Drinking Hatorade*

:D


ace

[USMC03]

As asked for on another board (group pic):

All 3 Colt LE6920's:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/group%20pics/AllColtLE6920s.jpg



Semper Fi,
Jeff

[USMC03]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt6.jpg?t=1202675673

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt7.jpg?t=1202675695

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt5.jpg?t=1202675715

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt4.jpg?t=1202675734

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt3.jpg?t=1202675759

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt1.jpg?t=1202675800

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/Colt2.jpg?t=1202675785





S/F,
Jeff

[taliv]

i love seeing how people change their config over time. i wish i had taken pictures of mine, as it has changed a good bit as well.

thanks for sharing

is the aimpoint magnifier setup a keeper?

[rob_s]

Jeff, ever do a writeup of all three together, with emphasis on what you've done to tailor each firearm to each task?

[55Kingpin]

<snip>

Something that I did on all my guns is I moved the vertical foregrip further forward, I find that this helps me "drive" the gun better. Some guys advocate moving it further foward than what I have it, but I'm some what short in stature and still need to have access to the Surefire. I have the Surefire moved as far forward as it will go. I am liking the vertical foregrip in it's current location, works well for me.

<snip>

-Jeff

Jeff,

I noticed in your new photos that the VFG has been moved forward significantly. Do you feel like this causes your arms/shoulders to get fatigued faster, or is it working out for you?

[USMC03]

taliv,

The 3x Aimpoint Magnifier is definately a keeper, there is a review in the optics section of this forum: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=11504



rob_s,


I will definately consider doing that in the near future.



55Kingpin,


VERTICAL FOREGRIPS:



I copied the following question and my reply from another post in reference to vertical foregrips:




Originally posted by In2Deep:

Jeff,

do you find any mechanical advantage in running your vfg further out, or do you have monkey arms?


My reply:


No monkey arms here, I'm only 5'06".


Running the vertical foregrip all the way forward on a carbine length rail is not anything new and it's not anything I thought up myself.

Guys much higher speed than me have been suggesting that I move my vertical foregrip all the way forward since 2003 or 2004. I believe there was also a thread about this same subject in the CQB room.


I had tried moving the vertical foregrip all the way forward several times in the past and it just never "felt right" or was causing me some pain and discomfort due to an injured left shoulder.

In late May of last year, I tried moving the vertical foregrip all the way forward and everything finally "clicked". After several years and several attempts I finally figured out why there were so many advantages to having the vertical foregrip all the way forward.


Think of how things balance and piviot points and maybe the following will make some sense


I have found that the magwell hold or having the vertical foregrip toward the delta ring places the center of gravity too far to the rear. Not a big issue when shooting in a CQB enviornment, but when engaging targets at further distances I have found this technique doesn't work well for me, and it's hard to keep the gun steady.


Kind of hard to explain this via a written message but here goes:

Think of your carbine like as if it were an old 1800's musket, you know the really long muskets, like the one that SneakySFDude carried in Basic. The stock is in your shoulder, and thus is supported at one end.

If you wanted the best control over the musket when moving it up and down and left to right where would you want to put your support hand? Would you want your support hand in close (near your firing hand), in the middle (dead center) of the musket, or as close as you could get it to the muzzle?

Obviously you would want to get the second point of support as close to the muzzle as possible.


Here is an exercise to try to illistrate the point I'm trying to make. Pick several targets out in your area, and stagger the distance both from left to right and front to back (ie. target #1 - 50 yards, target #2 - 350 yards, target number #3 175 yards, target #4 25 yards, etc).

Now take the longest rifle you have avalible to you (it can be a hunting rifle, AR15A2, M1 Garand, etc....the longer the rifle the better) and put your support hand as close as you can to the firing hand and transition from targets 1 - 4 as fast as you can. Do this a couple times. Now move the support hand the middle of the gun (ie. as close to center as possible) and transition from targets 1-4 as fast as you can. Do this a couple times. Now, move the support hand as far out on the forend as possible and transition from targets 1-4 as fast as you can. Do this a couple times.

I'm sure you will find that the further you get the hand out on the fore end the easier it is to control the gun, the quicker your transitions from one target to another, and when the support hand is in close you tend to "over shoot" your target but when it's further out, you can stop on a dime.

Moving the hand or vertical foregrip as close as you can get it to the unsupported end of the gun (ie. the muzzle) provides the best level of support and also helps you drive and control the gun much better.

With the vertical foregrip I'm constantly pushing rearward on the vertical foregrip, thus providing constant rearward pressure into my shoulder.

While at first having the vertical foregrip all the way forward feels ackward, I find that my support shoulder and arm doesn't fatigue as quickly and I can hold the gun up on target for longer periods of time.






S/F,
Jeff

[55Kingpin]

<snip>

While at first having the vertical foregrip all the way forward feels ackward, I find that my support shoulder and arm doesn't fatigue as quickly and I can hold the gun up on target for longer periods of time.




S/F,
Jeff


Thank you, sir! I will have to try your exercise.

My own post began to make me wonder.....and I realized how I hold a shotgun when I shoot trap/skeet. I hold my support hand out far on the forend.....makes sense for quickly moving targets that vary in distance, so it stands to reason that it would make sense for my carbine as well.

Off to the range....(i.e., back 40).

[Cuda444]

Damn fine shooters, as always. Every time I see one of your pics my wallet starts to cry... Eh, it'll get over it! I'll be ordering a similar set up very soon. Great pics, too btw.

[ctrmass]

Nice blaster!:D

[Guilty]

Jeff, I would like to know more about the furniture on the #2 Colt in the family picture. I am liking the pattern and colors - did you paint it yourself? If so, how did you achieve the "scales" or checkered look?

[USMC03]

Jeff, I would like to know more about the furniture on the #2 Colt in the family picture. I am liking the pattern and colors - did you paint it yourself? If so, how did you achieve the "scales" or checkered look?

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=5784




S/F,
Jeff

[USMC03]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0089a.jpg?t=1202784793

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0090a.jpg?t=1202784810

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0091a.jpg?t=1202784875

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0092a.jpg?t=1202784898




S/F,
Jeff

[USMC03]

Aimpoint 3x Magnifier directly behind the Aimpoint ML3
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0039a.jpg?t=1202738341

Aimpoint 3x Magnifier flipped to the right side (2 o'clock), out of the way of the Aimpoint ML3
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0040a.jpg?t=1202738850

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0042a.jpg?t=1202738874

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0056a.jpg?t=1202738891

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/molsen2295/USMC03/Colt%20with%20Aimpoint/IMG_0057a.jpg?t=1202738913





S/F,
Jeff

[ckay]

Those are things of beauty! I'm jealous.

[ebisu]

I know it is off topic, but what rig is that you use in the pictures