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Robb Jensen
07-17-10, 12:59
"I recently ran a class of military shooters, and among other things, ran them through the IDPA classifier, participated in a local steel match, and shot the Arizona State IDPA Championships!

Let me share with you some interesting observations. They get more wound up and nervous in a match than they do in combat! Why? Because they have time to think about it and get tense! I respect these guys' opinions more than ANY so called tactician out there who is sure he knows the tricks to surviving an armed confrontation. These guys have been doing that a bunch lately and think IDPA and IPSC shooting both offer much to the testing phase of ones ability.

On the other hand, they to a man do not agree with the philosophies that either is inherently more practical. All the little things like which way do you turn or where you reload is something we can discuss all day on the range, but on the battlefield, men do things that may not be considered practical or tactical and live because they did it fast, accurately and decisively.

And, there are those who did it "right" by some folks' judgement and still lost. We all have our ideas of how it should be done, and the rules of the existing games are just that, someones' ideas. To say going to any kind of shooting event will teach you technique that will get you killed is idiotic and irresponsible. Guys, it is cool to have your own plan but do not try to pass it off as gospel to the rest of us. A discussion of technique and philosophy seldom ends in agreement, but that does not make the other guy wrong or stupid.
These are just games designed to test your abilities in a very controlled and pre-planned arena. Who wins is your best shot, not your most likely survivor. That can not be tested under the clock. However, those that master executing under the timer are probably more likely to do well in a pressure situation, than someone who chokes, misses or gets procedural penalties. This is a point the boys all agree on, thus they train hard and test themselves in the arena of competition to see what they know and whether they can do it. "
-Rob Leatham

BWW
07-17-10, 13:38
fast,accurately, and decisively - words to think about - great post

FromMyColdDeadHand
07-20-10, 01:02
Interesting to read TGO and compare it to the other thread about Zen and combat.

ROCKET20_GINSU
07-23-10, 16:02
Thanks for posting that. Some very wise words and good points from one of the greatest shooters on the planet. IPSC and IDPA are really fun games and there is a lot you can learn about shooting from playing them and getting good at them. I think that the accuracy at speed and weapons manipulation that you learn, stress, and test during these shooting games can go a long way towards complimenting your "real world tactics" and doing well in actual hostile encounters. While I am nowhere close to being an exceptional shooter, I did gain a certain warm fuzzy from knowing that I was a more proficient marksman than my average "competition" when I was overseas :D.

GU

uscbigdawg
08-05-10, 19:19
I'm the first person to say that competition shooting (USPSA/IPSC, 3-Gun) helped me more than my military training on my deployments.

Rich