P.I.G. Plate Carrier

[DREK]

Got it last week, some photos of my P.I.G. Plate Carrier from SKD.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4383/pigpc047.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1162/pigpc039.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8163/pigpc040.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8168/pigpc041.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8864/pigpc045.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5273/pigpc043.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2749/pigpc046.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/519/pigpc048.jpg

[ZuluDeltaBravo]

I've been thinking of grabbing one of these once they came out. Whats your take on it so far?

[the automator]

Sweet 'Moron Label' patches.

[SkyStorm82]

How tall are you? I'm trying to get a sense of the size of those.

[bearstalker]

The guy in the pics looks like he is a wearing a vest too small for him, or is that normal? Excuse the ignorance...

[DREK]

How tall are you? I'm trying to get a sense of the size of those.

I'm 5 '11" (1meter80).
I have try with Large Plate.
I'll send photos.

[DREK]

The guy in the pics looks like he is a wearing a vest too small for him, or is that normal? Excuse the ignorance...

Looks maybe too small, but you can put inside a Small or XLarge plate.
So it is not necessary that he should be bigger or larger.

[DREK]

Photos with Large Plate.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8291/pigm4.jpg

[militarymoron]

The guy in the pics looks like he is a wearing a vest too small for him, or is that normal? Excuse the ignorance...

it's a plate carrier, not a vest/soft armour carrier, so it doesn't need to be any bigger than the plate that it carries. it's also designed to ride high for proper placement of the plates. the high ride also provides adequate clearance when wearing a battle belt.

[SkyStorm82]

When you put it on, do you have to lift the two panels on the front?

Wouldn't that interfere with having magazine pouches on it? Or are you not supposed to really attach stuff to this vest?

[DREK]

When you put it on, do you have to lift the two panels on the front?

Wouldn't that interfere with having magazine pouches on it? Or are you not supposed to really attach stuff to this vest?

You can lift only one panel on the front when you put it on. Not necessarily the two panels.
It will interfere if you put a mag pouch between the two panels.

Yes, I will install Double "Blue Force Gear " Mag pouch on each Front panel.
And "FastMag" on the left side.
Nothing on the rigth because I have my G19 on my belt.

More pics when I will do it.

A perfect review here http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/protective3.html#pig ^^

[JSantoro]

When you put it on, do you have to lift the two panels on the front?

Wouldn't that interfere with having magazine pouches on it? Or are you not supposed to really attach stuff to this vest?

You're presupposing that a 3- or 4-mag shingle is the only possible option for the flap (flaps, in this case) that holds the cummerbund in place.

Lots of folks don/doff their armor like I do, by pulling the panel and yanking only one side of the cummerbund. It has the advantage of being pretty fast, and since I only open up the right side of the cummerbund, all the stuff on the left remains exactly where it works for me, without the need to maybe fart around with minute adjustments brought on by removing both sides of the cummerbund. All the stuff on the right ISN'T ammo, so who cares if my strobe or GPS is .25" out of place from optimal (presuming I was that anal to begin with)?

With the PIG, one'd only pull the side you need, and I get the feeling that that's there by design. As mentioned, use a double of whatever flavor of pouch you like on one side, and a double or single on the other, depending on whatever configuration you prefer. If you like having all your primary ammo on the direct center line, you still have that option, you just need a different pouch(s).

[piggly_wiggly]

Guys, the comments above are correct- the ideal PIG configuration was intended to allow for donning and doffing from one side by disengaging 1 cummerbund flap and punching out of the side-release buckle on the shoulder strap on the same side. Only when you have to overlap the ends of the cummerbund do you get a situation when you need to lift up both flaps- but that is limited to the smaller end of the torso-size spectrum. For a better idea of how some of the components work together, you can view the PIG PC Instructional videos HERE! (http://www.youtube.com/skdtac) Thanks-
p_w

[smp444]

Here's mine with pouches... Eagle double pistol, BFG Tourniquet Now, BFG 10 speed double AR, and HSGI Blowout on the cummerbund.

You can see that the flap with the pistol/TQ on it easily lift to access the cummerbund. I can lift the side with the AR mags as well, just not as easily.

I can actually don the carrier just by sliding it over my head and only lift the flap/pop the cummerbund to doff it.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/smp444/2010-08-06121611.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/smp444/2010-08-06121853.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/smp444/100_1379.jpg

[sweatpants]

Got my PIG yesterday ... waiting for the next match or course to pop up here locally to give my real 2 cents about it.

Initial impressions are ... :cool:

PIG modeled on 5'0" girl.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2vrza80.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/167r32h.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/5b8jmc.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2yw97yd.jpg

[DREK]

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[piggly_wiggly]

Wuh? Huh? What'd I miss??
:confused:

[DREK]

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/470/pig002.jpg

Just this photo.
But my magazine are in the bad direction. :)

[Kentucky Cop]

Does anyone know or read if SKDTAC will eventually make the PIG with soft armor abilities down the road. It would be the perfect plate/soft armor carrier available! (kind of like the mayflower plate/soft armor carrier that accepts bullet proof vest panels).

KC

[piggly_wiggly]

Oh, I see. Not sure how I feel about the photoshop'd background, but that sure is a nice rig- where'd you get it?? :p

KC, we already have a soft armor backer capability (100% Dyneema Backers specifically sized for the PIG arrived this week- should be up NLT tomorrow), and we have final prototypes on our soft armor cummerbund, which will be out in full production by December. Both are being made by Velocity Systems.

Hope that helps!
:)

[Kentucky Cop]

Oh, I see. Not sure how I feel about the photoshop'd background, but that sure is a nice rig- where'd you get it?? :p

KC, we already have a soft armor backer capability (100% Dyneema Backers specifically sized for the PIG arrived this week- should be up NLT tomorrow), and we have final prototypes on our soft armor cummerbund, which will be out in full production by December. Both are being made by Velocity Systems.

Hope that helps!
:)

Thanks Pigs, are you going to post pics eventually as the rig evolves? Also, will you guys ever have a design that I can slip in my body armor that I wear as a LEO some day? Its a long shot but I had to ask. No biggie...., I like it as is but always wishing!

Thanks again,,,KC

[Kentucky Cop]

I read my post and its confusing. I cant even explain what I am trying to say. So,.......something like this is what I am talking about. Whew, there it is. Sorry for the confusion!

http://www.mayflower-rc.org/store/7016/25/Low-Profile-Assault-Armor-Carrier.html

KC

[JSantoro]

PW, any drama with the Triad plate backers and CB PACA armor inserts fitting, that you know of?

http://www.triadtactical.com/PACA-Heat-Sealed-IIIA-Soft-Inserts-Eagle-Plate-Carrier.html

http://www.triadtactical.com/PACA-Heat-Sealed-IIIA-Soft-Inserts-Eagle-Cummerbund.html

[piggly_wiggly]

KC,

I feel what you are saying, but the PIG is completely a different animale (looking for the accent symbol over the e)... The closest thing to what you are describing we will carry is the Eagle LE Armor Carrier (Non-releasable CIRAS), or the Velocity Systems OAV below which we are waiting up put up on the site- just got a shipment in!

http://www.velsyst.com/images/our-products/tactical/oav-th.jpg

JSantoro,

The PACA MBAV inserts will not fit, but the cummerbund inserts will "likely" fit in our soft armor cummerbund- we just received the final proto today for approval. We expect the soft armor cummerbunds to be in production and arriving late December.

Keep in mind that depending on your size, you may be able to use the Eagle PC/MBAV Cummerbund directly on the PIG Chassis.

Thanks!

p_w

[Kentucky Cop]

Thanks Pigs!

Looking forward to checking it out when it hits your site. Just checked and its not up.

KC

[DaveC]

Anyone have a pic of how the cummerbund attaches on the back ?

[militarymoron]

Anyone have a pic of how the cummerbund attaches on the back ?
i have some pics in the writeup i did a while ago:
http://militarymorons.com/equipment/protective3.html#pig

[skd_tactical]

Anyone have a pic of how the cummerbund attaches on the back ?

Here's a quick review done by Stickman too. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/09/24/skd-pig-rig-get-your-pig-on/

Also check out the links for the PIG PC youtube page.

SOS

[Iraq Ninja]

Here is my Pig rig set up for work. I bought it back in July from SKD after my Crye CAGE chassis finally wore out (flexible soft armor broke on both sides). My backup vest was a Mayflower low pro vest previously described here, but in multicam. We were told not wear multicam vests anymore and thus I was in a bit of a hurry to get a new rig. None of the Mayflower dealers had the tan versions in stock, and I got no reply back from my email to Mayflower, so I took a chance with the pig...

Overall, the pig has been an excellent rig and better than I thought it would be. As our team medic, mine is set up for that role. The front med pouch is from NARP and fits nicely. The radio pouch is also from SKD and is actually one of their adjustable 20 round pouches. It works perfectly with our ICOM radios and is the best radio pouch I have ever used.

All my rifle and pistol mags are on my belt since that is how I wear em now. This makes the vest much more lighter and is what I think is the ultimate setup for my job.

My plates are triple curved gov issued armor. While they are not SAPI shaped, they do fit the carrier. My side plates are 6x6 ceramics since I detest the larger and heavier side plates most folks have to wear. Though I was a bit worried about how the side plates attach, they have been rock solid and have not come loose. They can get a bit twisted if you have to put your vest on quickly, so you have to make sure they are good to go before using.

Shooting with the pig on is very nice, and I don't even notice the armor, unlike my previous vests (Crye CAGE, CIRAS, etc).

I can't think of too much I would change on the vest, other than making sure the side plates don't become twisted. Since the vest was built by Eagle, it is tough as nails. If you need a full wrap of soft armor, the Mayflower is probably the best option. If you need just a plate carrier, the Pig is what I consider the best one around right now.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Misc/pigrig.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Misc/pigrig2.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Misc/pigrig3.jpg

[DaveC]

So the cummerbund has a channel on the back of the PIG correct ? is it held in place by velcro, snaps ?

Basically looking to see what other cummerbunds may be able to be used with the PIG.




i have some pics in the writeup i did a while ago:
http://militarymorons.com/equipment/protective3.html#pig

[piggly_wiggly]

Iraq Ninja,

Thanks for your detailed assessment and pics! :D
FYI- we just took delivery of the final prototype of our soft armor cummerbund from Velocity last week and we now have them on order in 4 different colors (due in December).

DaveC,

The cummerbund channel in the back is a pass-through channel, ala Eagle PC w/ CB. The elastic cummerbund (which is what I prefer) is a two piece system that attaches in that channel via velcro. The Molle cummerbund passes through and floats, just like the Eagle PC cummerbund.

Hope that helps!
p_w

[Danny Boy]

I wear Large SAPIs. Are large size DBT plate backers gonna slide around in the dedicated soft armor pocket?

[DaveC]

Thanks, that is what I was looking for, I just was not very clear with the question.

PM on the way piggly_wiggly



Iraq Ninja,

Thanks for your detailed assessment and pics! :D
FYI- we just took delivery of the final prototype of our soft armor cummerbund from Velocity last week and we now have them on order in 4 different colors (due in December).

DaveC,

The cummerbund channel in the back is a pass-through channel, ala Eagle PC w/ CB. The elastic cummerbund (which is what I prefer) is a two piece system that attaches in that channel via velcro. The Molle cummerbund passes through and floats, just like the Eagle PC cummerbund.

Hope that helps!
p_w

[piggly_wiggly]

I wear Large SAPIs. Are large size DBT plate backers gonna slide around in the dedicated soft armor pocket?

While it wont be a seam-to-seam fit like the PIG Plate Backer, it will get the job done. The XL backers would be a tighter fit, but you'll have do so some contorting to get the flap closed. The L backers are a better drop-in fit, with some room left over from left to right. We have a lot of customers running Large backers right now with no complaints. HTH!

p_w

[CENTCOM_Survivor]

Here is a review I did with some photos and video: ITS Tactical PIG Review (http://www.itstactical.com/2010/12/13/skds-pig-plate-carrier-a-versatile-solution-for-diverse-threats/)