View Full Version : Mesa Tactical Urbino (short LOP) stock for Benelli shotguns and Rem 870
For all who don't know. Looks like someone in the US is actually making shorter LOP Benelli stocks.:smile:
http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?s=file_download&id=49
http://www.mesatactical.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=811
http://www.mesatactical.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=722&p=4
No one? Was it something I said?
donlapalma
08-14-10, 10:30
Thanks for the info. I've been waiting for something like this.
militarymoron
08-14-10, 11:33
that's great - this is something that was missing from the market. if i hadn't already shortened my M3 stock, i'd definitely be up for one.
This is good new for me! I've always wanted a shorter LOP for my M1S90 because I'm considering the purchase of a plate carrier. The ergonomics are good right now, but I think the added heft of a carrier would put the LOP beyond my ideal
This is BIG news for M1S90 owners.... But it is about a year too late for me, as I sold mine last year.
Looks good but I don't think there's been any movement on this since they announced them in January. I hope it's coming out soon.
Supposedly they start shipping sometime at the end of this month.
Thanks for the heads up. If only Benelli had chosen to do the very same thing... :angry:
Innovatation is a damned good thing, no? :happy:
I pre-ordered one with Mesa already. Supposed to be coming in by next week...
Let me know if anyone wants my custom shortened 12" LOP Benelli M4 stock after I replace it!
Dennis.
I pre-ordered one with Mesa already. Supposed to be coming in by next week...
Let me know if anyone wants my custom shortened 12" LOP Benelli M4 stock after I replace it!
Dennis.
Post some pics or PM some pics of it, please.
Here are some pics:
I basically cut down the stock just above the main fastening bolt, then I added a metal bracket under the bolt that has screw holes for the buttpad to attach to. Then I attached a Speedfeed youth pad I had lying around which fit pretty good. I also added Velcro directly to the stock for a low profile and easily changed ammo holder.
In this picture there is an OEM stock underneath showing the difference in length. It makes a huge difference in handling!
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad74/stocknum/BenM4ShortStock/RightSide.jpg
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad74/stocknum/BenM4ShortStock/LeftSide.jpg
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad74/stocknum/BenM4ShortStock/BackRight.jpg
Very nice. I've seen a few other guys who have done that, but they usually have shit sticking out the sides of the stock.
Could I persuade you to post some pics of the guts? I'm having a little trouble visualizing your description.
Since I never seem to have any time at home to get a good pic of my short stock internals, here is a crappy hand drawing of what I did.
http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad74/stocknum/Drawing.jpg
Basically, after cutting the stock I inserted a rigid metal bracket under the main stock attachment screw. This bracket has threaded barrels attached to it that the new buttpad can screw into. Pretty simple although finding a rigid enough metal bracket is important because any give in the metal will cause a loose buttpad. Also, there were some fit issues with the mainscrew being 1/8" or so backed out causing the whole stock not to attach correctly to the receiver that I had to deal with (but I forget how). I think it was just an alignment issue.
I hope this helps...
Good Luck!
Dennis.
Let me know if anyone wants my custom shortened 12" LOP Benelli M4 stock after I replace it!
Dennis.
PM sent.
Dennis,
Thank you for the drawing and explanation! That's a much more elegant solution than the ones I've seen before!
Rob Haught
09-23-10, 10:06
Any news on this stock? Is it in production now? Id be interested in trying one for my Benelli. The factory length has always been problematic and so far no simple solution. This may be the way to go.
Rob
Production still delayed. Will be sure to post back here once they hit the pipeline but I get the impression that it's still a few months off. Probably early next year.
Thank GOD someone is doing this. I love my M4, but the stock just has to go (way too long).
C4
Rob Haught
09-23-10, 12:39
My feeling exactly!
My M4 is my ideal shotgun in every manner except for the LOP. I can't wait for this stock to hit the market.
I have an Urbino on pre-order with Mesa and talked to them yesterday. They said they are hoping to get production models in a couple weeks.
Dennis.
If you're following the Urbino Stock Production Status thread over on Mesa's forum (http://www.mesatactical.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=811), you know that things are going slowly. The owner is doing a great job of keeping folks posted from week to week but I get the impression that "I'll have production models in a couple weeks" means something more along the lines of him actually having a few more MODELS in hand from the mold makers to evaluate to rather than having the merchandise ready to ship. As an example, his post as recently as two weeks ago read...
Yesterday I spent some time at the moldmakers. We have been concerned about the cheek riser, since with the current mechanism it can't be removed if the material is stiff enough to ensure it doesn't deflect during use. This has been an issue for a month or so now.
We arrived a solution, however, by going back to our original proposal for a mechanism to secure the riser. This will require a minimum of changes to the existing tooling. And it will be a much more reliable set-up. Should have stayed with it from the beginning.
Here are some close-up pics of the first articles. Note that they have not been textured yet.
http://www.mesatactical.com/images/249.jpg
And then just a couple days ago he was contacting Magpul for samples of FDE to see what color his tan stock should be. :(
So...I think it's pretty safe to assume that it's gonna be a while before we see these things shipping. Remember that there are going to be many variations of the Urbino (blank, tan, with cheek riser, without, with recoil pad, without, with shell holder, without, Benelli, M1/M2, M4, Remington, etc.), so there is still a lot of work to be done from what I've gathered reading the various posts.
Here's a photo of the latest test model. Looking pretty good!
http://www.mesatactical.com/images/255.jpg
Latest prototype, a tan model. Pistol grip will eventually be tan too.
http://www.mesatactical.com/images/256.jpg
Seems like that old adage rearing its ugly head again... "You can have it right -- Or you can have it right now -- But you can't have both."
Personally, I'll wait for a better finished product.
Thanks for the updates and keeping us in the loop.
Just saw this thread!
Excellent news, and I'm on the fence. If they ever decide to produce a non-pistol gripped stock, then I'm on it like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
More good news. They just cut pricing roughly in half!
http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?id=152
magikbullet
11-09-10, 15:51
that's excellent news, and pretty much makes it a definite buy for my m2...
I wish they made them for Super Nova Tacticals ...I just cut mine down 2 " and now it's perfect.... I wonder if Benelli will ever get a clue that the LOP on their defense shotguns is way too long?
So I take it, they will only be producing the pistol grip variety?
I wish they made them for Super Nova Tacticals ...I just cut mine down 2 " and now it's perfect.... I wonder if Benelli will ever get a clue that the LOP on their defense shotguns is way too long?
Oh but they do now!
http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?s=file_download&id=55
magikbullet
11-11-10, 20:58
has mesa tactical stated what the stock will weigh? that's obviously a crucial factor for us m1/m2 owners.
I have a 3 gun gear 8 shell holder on my gun now with no issues, and it would be nice if the urbino weighed sufficiently less than the factory stock to negate the addition of a light or surefire fore end.
It would have been super sweet to have a QD mount installed in these....
It would have been super sweet to have a QD mount installed in these....
It is super easy to drill a 1/2" hole and JB Weld a QD adapter anywhere into about any stock. I have a couple on a M1A Scout stock with no issues.
You can get QD adapters at Brownells.
Dennis.
It would have been super sweet to have a QD mount installed in these....
They do. It's optional though. One side or ambi.
http://www.phildorsett.com/images/mesaqd.jpg
They do. It's optional though. One side or ambi.
http://www.phildorsett.com/images/mesaqd.jpg
Sweet.
It is super easy to drill a 1/2" hole and JB Weld a QD adapter anywhere into about any stock. I have a couple on a M1A Scout stock with no issues.
You can get QD adapters at Brownells.
Dennis.
Thanks Dennis.
Awesome that they have one for the 870 too. Im giddy.:D
My M4 Urbino finally arrived in the mail yesterday. It is very well made and as short as my cut down OEM stock. I have no idea why it took so long for anyone to finally make shorter length Benelli stocks, but now we have them :)
Mesa Tactical has a winner with this stock!
Dennis.
Robb Jensen
12-20-10, 13:01
My M4 Urbino finally arrived in the mail yesterday. It is very well made and as short as my cut down OEM stock. I have no idea why it took so long for anyone to finally make shorter length Benelli stocks, but now we have them :)
Mesa Tactical has a winner with this stock!
Dennis.
Got any pics with in on your Benelli M4? I'm interesting in getting one these with the cheekpiece and a Limbsaver pad.
Sweet! Hopefully the ones for the Ben M1 will also start shipping...
Hopefully they will make some matching M1 fore-ends also for those of us who have the older surefire forearms with the light that want to use a stock one but unable to find a factory one or they are way overpriced. Make them internally threaded on the top and sides to add rails for lights, etc..
Hopefully they will make some matching M1 fore-ends also for those of us who have the older surefire forearms with the light that want to use a stock one but unable to find a factory one or they are way overpriced. Make them internally threaded on the top and sides to add rails for lights, etc..
Interesting....
Curious, why would you not want to use the Surefire forend?
Be advised, this stock isn't mine and it's the standard buttpad (non-Limbsaver) version. But it lets you see what the Urbino looks like, particularly in comparison to the factory Benelli stock. Very nice if I may say so myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStock010800x600.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockABC007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockABC001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockCompare012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockCompare005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockCompare004.jpg
That looks good....I had to cut down the stock on my Super Nova Tactical.
Beautiful. Thanks for the pics. Impatiently awaiting mine...
Does anyone know if the M1/M2 version has been released yet?
Also, is the M1/M2 version compatible with the M3? I just picked up the M3 and don't have a whole lot of knowledge base on its accessories and such.
Does anyone know if the M1/M2 version has been released yet?
They're hoping to have it available within the next two weeks. Not sure about the answer to your second question.
I believe only the m4 stock has been released. I'm not sure about the m3.
I've had one on order for a little while now. For an 870. I've been told that Benelli is priority & 870 should ship in couple of moths. This is the only thing I have left to complete my shotty. Running a youth factory stock now & no complaints, but I've always loved the Benelli stock. I'm an 870 guy so when I saw this I thought "just have to have".
I don't know if seeing this thread will cost me money or save me some. I was about to pull the trigger on the Mesa high tube adapter for my 870 but I may now wait for this stock to come out.
Got mine. A marked improvement over the factory, but I don't have a warm fuzzy over the pistol grip. I'll shoot it some more and see if I can get used to it.
Anyone else get their hands on one?
If you can't seem to get used to it and still just hate it, you can remove the factory Benelli rubber overmold grip and place it onto the Urbino stock.
How would I do that? I thought that would violate some fundamental law and tear a hole in space time or something.
Really, though. That would be PERFECT.
Supposedly you can just slip the rubber overmolding off the stocks and swap them.
Supposedly you can just slip the rubber overmolding off the stocks and swap them.
Cool, that was the only thing I didn't like about the Urbino, was the goofy "almost Benelli" grip! Being able to take the one off my factory stock definitely removes one major reservation I had.
Got it! They indeed just slip right on and off.
It might be useful to note that the Urbino's came off much more easily than the factory, so you may want to do that one first to get a feel for it.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_GxV4XyqiTvw/TTyw3EoCvpI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/j9qC0w4I1UI/s400/IMG_0056.JPG http://lh5.ggpht.com/_GxV4XyqiTvw/TTyw3q4-5iI/AAAAAAAAAVU/Tl3dp-6Faa0/s640/IMG_0059.JPG
Can't wait to get mine. Made this pic from one that a guy posted on the benelli forums. Not mine but love his setup.
http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/benellim4-small.jpg
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Good Lord, man. That's pretty ninjafied. I don't know if I'm man enough to handle THAT beast. :ph34r:
How much does it weigh?
Good Lord, man. That's pretty ninjafied. I don't know if I'm man enough to handle THAT beast. :ph34r:
How much does it weigh?
Lol don't know it's not mine but probably not too bad.
I got impatient and ended up just chopping my factory stock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/choppa1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/choppa2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/choppa3.jpg
LOP is now about 12 3/4", which is just fine for me. Keeps me from spending excess money on a weapon that isn't going to get as much range time as the rest.
Nicely done. Any pics of the interior of the stock where it accepts the screws for the pad?
I got impatient and ended up just chopping my factory stock.
LOP is now about 12 3/4", which is just fine for me. Keeps me from spending excess money on a weapon that isn't going to get as much range time as the rest.
Nice job! The black screws are unobtrusive and look just fine.
What did you use for blocks inside the stock?
Dennis.
Got mine. A marked improvement over the factory, but I don't have a warm fuzzy over the pistol grip. I'll shoot it some more and see if I can get used to it.
Anyone else get their hands on one?
The Urbino looks like it has a better pistol grip, maybe a little more slender. Not that fatassed Benelli style. That thing feels like a 2x4.
I just roughly went by the guide that one of our own members posted here and on hkpro. (Don't remember the exact thread, but it was the first hit when googling "Benelli M1 stock shortening.")
His version entailed forming a block of wood to fit inside the stock, complete with roll pins, epoxy, and a hole drilled in the center of the block for access to the buttstock screw.
My dad and I hacked a single wood block into rough shape with hand saws and a dremel, then just secured it in the stock with four screws, two on each side. Then just screwed the butt pad to that. If I ever have to take off the stock, it means I'll have four screws to undo to get to the buttstock screw rather than two, but eh, it was much simpler this way. (Admittedly it was my dad's idea to just use those screws, and get ones with countersunk heads so they don't stick out. He's much better at this stuff than I am.)
Be advised, this stock isn't mine and it's the standard buttpad (non-Limbsaver) version. But it lets you see what the Urbino looks like, particularly in comparison to the factory Benelli stock. Very nice if I may say so myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStock010800x600.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockABC007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockABC001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockCompare012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockCompare005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/babob/Mesa%20Tactical%20Urbino%20Stock/MesaTacticalUrbinoStockCompare004.jpg
Holly pic stealing batshit BATMAN!
Ya stolded mah pics! :haha: LOL
The Urbino looks like it has a better pistol grip, maybe a little more slender. Not that fatassed Benelli style. That thing feels like a 2x4.
Depends on your hands ;) This guy has big ol meat puppets.
Depends on your hands ;) This guy has big ol meat puppets.
My Urbino grip has a squared off backside which can be somewhat uncomfortable to hold as opposed to the rounded Benelli one.
I ended up switching them out. Best of both worlds now!
Dennis.
My Urbino grip has a squared off backside which can be somewhat uncomfortable to hold as opposed to the rounded Benelli one.
I ended up switching them out. Best of both worlds now!
Dennis.
Amen!
How do you take off the pistol grip?
IZinterrogator
04-07-11, 15:08
How do you take off the pistol grip?
Just try to get up behind the rubber and start working it down. I used a small eyeglass screwdriver to get it started. I would follow their suggestion of taking the grip off the Urbino first. It was much looser and you get a good feel for where the problem areas are going to be on the Benelli grip.
Thank you. Please forgive me if it was already discussed.
CAR-AR-M16
04-24-11, 19:02
I just got my new Mesa Tactical Urbino stock mounted on my 870 SBS. The stock is very comfortable and the LOP is quite a bit shorter than the factory stock. So far I am happy with it. Will have to try it out at the range once it stops raining.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/CAR-AR-M16/Shotgun-Remington870.jpg
Got one on my Benelli M2..... The rear sling attachments rattle..... Normal?
CAR-AR-M16
04-26-11, 22:29
Got one on my Benelli M2..... The rear sling attachments rattle..... Normal?
Yes. I think the instructions that come with the stock even mentions that it will rattle a little. Mine stopped rattling when I attached the sling.
I installed one of these this weekend on my wife's 870. Wow! We really like this stock. The short LOP is great, it was easy to install, we couldn't be more satisfied. My wife is very petite and she commented today on how much more controllable the 870 was now with the Urbino when compared to the original full-size stock, going as far to say, "there is no recoil". I am waiting for the go-ahead from our armorers for permission to install one of these on my work SG. I only wish it was an inch or so shorter still. Good job, MT!
Damn it!! 8 months after I sell my m4 because the lop is too long this comes out. Time to get back in the shotgun market.
Damn it!! 8 months after I sell my m4 because the lop is too long this comes out. Time to get back in the shotgun market.
2 inches too long, eh? Some men would kill to have this problem.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj216/mlbartha/IMG_00441.jpg
I got mine last week. Shot it Friday. One word, SWEET! I let another shooter shoot 6 rounds of SB 00 Buck out of it. He was shooting a similar 870 with a MESA LEO and standard carbine stock and a rubber recoil pad. His comment "That ain't fair"
I am 5'9" 200lbs and I wear a 36" sleeve dress shirt. This is the best fitting stock I have used. I have used regular Speed Feed stocks (standard and reduced LOP) but the Urbino seems to let me get "lower" and my bead is where it should be on the target, I am no longer hitting high like I was before. I shot 20 rounds of SB and Federal 00 buck, 5 Federal LEO slugs, and 5 Remington 3" 000 Buck rounds. All felt really good with this set up and stayed in the 10" center out to 25 yards. Follow up shots were much quicker.
M2C, YMMV, LRR
Mesa Tactical Urbino with limbsaver for Benelli Supernova Tactical. These are pictures my girlfriend sent me when it arrived as compared to my chop job I did already with a grind to fit limbsaver. She says she is going to install it for me.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/mattexass/Firearms/photo2.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/mattexass/Firearms/photo1.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/mattexass/Firearms/photo.jpg
bmyk - Good lord, dude. I'm 6'4 and wear a 37. You have some gorilla arms.
matt - She sounds like a keeper. I heard one report of it rotating on a supernova under recoil. I'd be interested to know if you experience anything similar.
bmyk - Good lord, dude. I'm 6'4 and wear a 37. You have some gorilla arms.
matt - She sounds like a keeper. I heard one report of it rotating on a supernova under recoil. I'd be interested to know if you experience anything similar.
I will get her to test it out. So far def. a keeper she listened to all my suggestions (no airsoft crap) when she bought her parts for the AR I put together for her.
IZinterrogator
06-30-11, 15:16
bmyk - Good lord, dude. I'm 6'4 and wear a 37. You have some gorilla arms.
matt - She sounds like a keeper. I heard one report of it rotating on a supernova under recoil. I'd be interested to know if you experience anything similar.I'm not sure about the Supernova, but on the M4, the trigger assembly extends into the stock to keep it straight. Sounds like incorrect assembly to me.
I finally broke down and bought an Urbino a few weeks ago. It makes a WORLD of difference. Should have gotten one sooner! Here's the gun as I currently have it outfitted...
Benelli M4
Carriercomp Ti Mag Tube
Carriercomp Replacement Top Rail
Aimpoint Micro T-1 w/LaRue LT661 QD Mount
GG&G Oversized Bolt Release
Dave's Metal Works (DMW) Oversized Safety
Mesa Tactical Urbino Stock w/Cheek Riser, Benelli OEM Pistol Grip Cover, Limbsaver Pad, & QD Sling Attachment
Original SOE Bungee Sling
Surefire M80 Railed Handguard w/LaRue Index Clips (UDE)
3GunGear Velcro Side Saddle
White light and Sidearmor 2-Shell Carrier to follow...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6854507439_648d65e431_b.jpg
Ridge_Runner_5
02-13-12, 08:08
Yeah, they ARE nice stocks.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/Shooting/DSC_0001-2.jpg
I remember reading awhile back that Mesa was planning to redesign the grip. Did it ever happen?
I remember reading awhile back that Mesa was planning to redesign the grip. Did it ever happen?
No, and I doubt they will. At least for a while. They seem to be selling well as-is.
My advice is to buy an $18 Benelli M4 rubber outer grip from Brownell's to go along with your Urbino.
JRDrew0309
03-29-12, 10:53
For those who have put the Urbino stock on the supernova, what did you use for an extension on the stock support rod? When I ordered the stock, I was under the impression that i didn't need to mod anything. Any help would be appreciated.
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