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macnamara
08-31-10, 19:19
Gents,

I've been having issues with my Glock 22 Gen 3 for a while now. Originally, it didn't offer enough traction in my hand, so I stippled the ever loving **** out of it. So much so that I had to "smooth" her over as the stippling was too extreme.

(first stipple job seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29676628@N04/4572918986/in/set-72157623804565049/

"smoothed" job seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29676628@N04/4861352720/in/set-72157623804565049/)

Anyway, today was the trial run for my new "smoothed" grips. Works like a charm. However, now that my hands are not being eaten alive by the old stipple job, I have found a new problem...The underside of the trigger guard bites into my middle finger as it wraps around the grip, making it rather uncomfortable after only a few rounds.

I'm looking at getting a Lone Wolf drop in conversion barrel so I can run 9mm, but really want to address the "middle finger bite" issue before I do.

Can anyone recommend anything to help? I am not adverse to grip reduction / modifications of the trigger guard.

Thanks
spr1
08-31-10, 19:33
You can either send it off to Bowie or Boresight for a fix, or, if you are handy sand/grind it to suit yourself.
macnamara
08-31-10, 20:27
You can either send it off to Bowie or Boresight for a fix, or, if you are handy sand/grind it to suit yourself.

Cheers. Any idea what kind of angle / cut to go for to eliminate the bite though?
uwe1
08-31-10, 23:59
I did my own with 600 grit sandpaper and a dremel. For me, it necessary to remove/sand down that bottom bump. That was where the majority of the contact with my middle finger was taking place. Afterwards, you can slowly thin the rest of it down until you get comfortable with it and until it looks uniformly thick.
vigilant2
09-01-10, 07:36
The underside of the trigger guard bites into my middle finger as it wraps around the grip, making it rather uncomfortable after only a few rounds.

I'm looking at getting a Lone Wolf drop in conversion barrel so I can run 9mm, but really want to address the "middle finger bite" issue before I do.

Thanks

I had the same problem, I was developing a callous on the inside of the middle finger that would cause discomfort during long range sessions. I'm too "chicken" to try stippling myself, but I had no problem taking an X-acto knife with varoius
blades, a dremel tool with sanding heads and rounding/smoothing
out the edge of the guard where the side and bottom of the
trigger guard were . It didn't take much removal of material to
make a big difference. Its now very comfortable in my hand, like
a "new" grip in my hand and I'm also able to get up "higher" on
the gun. I removed the upper finger groove the same way.
All I can say is take your time, try gripping and then continue as
needed.
macnamara
09-01-10, 07:38
Thanks guys.

Vigilant, can you post pics of the work you did? Thanks.
JohnN
09-01-10, 12:11
This is a picture of a trigger guard treatment done by Boresightsolutions. Ben does the best cosmetic and ergonomic work on polymer pistols that I have seen. Gives you an idea how to fix your middle knuckle issue.
http://a.imageshack.us/img375/899/glockwork20091205176167.jpg
Seraph
09-01-10, 19:20
Macnamara, I think you ought to consider turning it over to one of the guys who do it for a living, like Boresight, mentioned above. Three strikes, and you might be out a good pistol.
Gutshot John
09-01-10, 19:25
Does it look like this?

http://tacticalshooting.com/images/glockknuckle.jpg

If so it's called "Glock knuckle" ... problem with your grip not the gun though radiusing under the trigger will improve the situation.
polymorpheous
09-01-10, 20:00
Does it look like this?
*snip*
If so it's called "Glock knuckle" ... problem with your grip not the gun though radiusing under the trigger will improve the situation.

could you elaborate?
i just got my 1st glock.:D
macnamara
09-01-10, 20:34
Seraph, good point. I'm willing to give it a shot though (technically, I'm 1/3 ;)).

Gutshot, here's a pic of where it bites:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Amy_Van_doren/joes%20shit/L1000750.jpg

As you can see, not on the knuckle itself, but it's where the trigger guard "rests" on my hand.
Gutshot John
09-01-10, 20:55
could you elaborate?
i just got my 1st glock.:D

It's caused by over-gripping the gun.

It doesn't happen to everyone, I've never experienced it though I've been in classes with those that have.
Gutshot John
09-01-10, 20:56
Seraph, good point. I'm willing to give it a shot though (technically, I'm 1/3 ;)).

Gutshot, here's a pic of where it bites:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Amy_Van_doren/joes%20shit/L1000750.jpg

As you can see, not on the knuckle itself, but it's where the trigger guard "rests" on my hand.

The trigger guard should rest forward of the knuckle...you're way overgripping if that's where it rests.

The knuckle should be at the apex of where the front strap and the side panels meet.
Jay Cunningham
09-01-10, 20:57
I get Glock knuckle after some classes. I am thinking about trying out a radiused undercut.
wahoo95
09-01-10, 20:59
Dremel with a roundgrinding wheel to undercut that area. Would show you a pic of mine but having trouble with Photobucket.
uwe1
09-02-10, 00:35
I don't have the skills of Ben at Boresight, but this definitely made my Glock19 my favorite gun. The narrower top finger space (versus a Glock 17) made "Glock knuckle" a major problem especially with a Hogue grip. Similar mods have been done to all but one Glock.

http://m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=5989&stc=1&d=1283405692

I used a dremel to remove the bulk of the material, but this leaves ripple/wave like textures on the trigger guard. Next I get some 600 grit sandpaper to smooth the rippling out and finally some 1500 grit to really smooth out the deep grooves left by the 600 grit stuff. Go slow, taking time to remove material and then drawing the gun and doing some dry-fire to make sure it feels right.
macnamara
09-02-10, 06:43
The trigger guard should rest forward of the knuckle...you're way overgripping if that's where it rests.

The knuckle should be at the apex of where the front strap and the side panels meet.

Dammit, I'm a retard! I rushed to post that pic before hitting the sack last night. LOL, I can barely hold the pistol like I described where the bite was supposed to be in that original pic!

I edited the pic to show where the bite is in blue.

Edit to add the edited pic as it wasn't showing up in my original post:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Amy_Van_doren/joes%20shit/L1000750-1.jpg

Thanks for all your help gents.
Magic_Salad0892
09-03-10, 20:43
Sorry for being off topic, but I really like your tattoo... :]
macnamara
09-04-10, 18:59
Sorry for being off topic, but I really like your tattoo... :]

Thanks. :)

OK, took the Dremel out and had a go:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/4958306512_bc7ab42f10_b.jpg

Tested it out on Thursday and it feels much better. Was running carbine and pistol drills and no "bite" as described in my original post.

Thanks for all the input guys.