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Picked this up today. Beretta Stampede Birdshead in .45 Colt.
Sorry for the bad picture, had to use the cell phone cuz the wife hid the camera somewhere.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm229/killerchase2000/2010-09-01_155820.jpg
gtmtnbiker98
09-01-10, 18:30
How old is that?
Its new, just a Single Action Army copy.
Cool weapon. How does it shoot?
ccw? how you gonna carry it?
remember that guy that got into a shootout with some banger in a fast food restaurant with his OC 6-shooter... and it broke?
That's a pretty old school looking revolver...let us know how it shoots! :D
ccw? how you gonna carry it?
remember that guy that got into a shootout with some banger in a fast food restaurant with his OC 6-shooter... and it broke?
oh man..
this gun broke?
i remember hearing about a guy who got in a shootout with a single action and he got the guy...
i guess if ya shoot enough cowboy action CCW'ing a single action might not be a bad idea. gotta go with what ya know.
oh man..
this gun broke?
i remember hearing about a guy who got in a shootout with a single action and he got the guy...
i guess if ya shoot enough cowboy action CCW'ing a single action might not be a bad idea. gotta go with what ya know.
yea.. i think the spur of the hammer broke.. whatever it was, he said the gun would still fire, but that he had to do shit to it to get it to shoot. single action's a bitch, if you can't readily cock it.
i've only ever heard of one story about a guy with a single action in public shooting somebody else. at least within the last 100 years.. we're probably thinking of the same one. he DID get the guy, but he also got his own ass shot up pretty good... with a broken single in his hand.
Business_Casual
09-02-10, 06:10
i guess if ya shoot enough cowboy action CCW'ing a single action might not be a bad idea. gotta go with what ya know.
:confused:
CCW a single-action revolver? That seems like a very bad idea, when reliable self-loading pistols are ubiquitous and cheap.
B_C
:confused:
CCW a single-action revolver? That seems like a very bad idea, when reliable self-loading pistols are ubiquitous and cheap.
B_C
I saw the whole thing Clint Smith did on them and it was nice to see its not the arrow its the INDIAN......
Business_Casual
09-02-10, 06:39
Do you have the skill level of Clint Smith? I can make absurd statements about swords or maces, but that won't change the fact that those weapons, as well as the single-action revolver, are antiquated and sub-optimal in 2010.
B_C
John_Wayne777
09-02-10, 08:19
I saw the whole thing Clint Smith did on them and it was nice to see its not the arrow its the INDIAN......
...and when the Indian came up against a guy with a Winchester carbine, he found himself coveting the Winchester if he survived the encounter.
Old guns are just flat out cool. You know how most dudes have pinups of girls in bikinis to ogle? I have pinups of engraved Colt revolvers including a neat picture of a SAA with a chopped down barrel and reduced grip. I think those cut down SAA's are the cat's pajamas partially because I think of the people who modified those guns as the old west incarnation of Devel and others who progressed the world of pistols with some skilled chopping. Cut down SAA's are fun to look at, fun to handle, and fun to shoot.
It's OK to have fun with guns. I own several fun guns, guns I bought primarily because I thought they were neat and that I shoot primarily because I occasionally want to shoot a neat, interesting firearm. If I hit the lottery it will be easy to tell as suddenly peacemakers, broom-handled Mausers, Lugers, S&W registered magnums, and lots of other guns will become instantly very scarce as I go on a buying spree of pornographic proportions. I'll buy those guns and a huge chunk of property and I'll spend hours every day playing with all my interesting guns.
When it comes time to leave the range and go about daily life, however, I'll put the neat gun back into it's cocoon of loving protection and I'll carry a plastic handgun that I regard with essentially all the affection I have for a wrench. Why? Because as a tool for self defense, it is superior in every conceivable way.
I don't think that C-Grunt is actually going to use this cool revolver as his daily carry piece...I think he bought it because he thinks it is cool. At one time guns like that were concealed carry pieces and sometimes it's just cool to own something like that. If someone is considering a peacemaker copy as a daily carry piece I would encourage them to look around and notice that the single action revolver was woefully outdated as a tool for self defense even in Bill Jordan's day a few decades ago. They do not make for a good concealed carry option today.
Yes, Wyatt Earp used a peacemaker...but if you could go back in time and show Wyatt Earp a Glock he'd probably give up a limb or a testicle to get one.
...and when the Indian came up against a guy with a Winchester carbine, he found himself coveting the Winchester if he survived the encounter.
Old guns are just flat out cool. You know how most dudes have pinups of girls in bikinis to ogle? I have pinups of engraved Colt revolvers including a neat picture of a SAA with a chopped down barrel and reduced grip. I think those cut down SAA's are the cat's pajamas partially because I think of the people who modified those guns as the old west incarnation of Devel and others who progressed the world of pistols with some skilled chopping. Cut down SAA's are fun to look at, fun to handle, and fun to shoot.
It's OK to have fun with guns. I own several fun guns, guns I bought primarily because I thought they were neat and that I shoot primarily because I occasionally want to shoot a neat, interesting firearm. If I hit the lottery it will be easy to tell as suddenly peacemakers, broom-handled Mausers, Lugers, S&W registered magnums, and lots of other guns will become instantly very scarce as I go on a buying spree of pornographic proportions. I'll buy those guns and a huge chunk of property and I'll spend hours every day playing with all my interesting guns.
When it comes time to leave the range and go about daily life, however, I'll put the neat gun back into it's cocoon of loving protection and I'll carry a plastic handgun that I regard with essentially all the affection I have for a wrench. Why? Because as a tool for self defense, it is superior in every conceivable way.
I don't think that C-Grunt is actually going to use this cool revolver as his daily carry piece...I think he bought it because he thinks it is cool. At one time guns like that were concealed carry pieces and sometimes it's just cool to own something like that. If someone is considering a peacemaker copy as a daily carry piece I would encourage them to look around and notice that the single action revolver was woefully outdated as a tool for self defense even in Bill Jordan's day a few decades ago. They do not make for a good concealed carry option today.
Yes, Wyatt Earp used a peacemaker...but if you could go back in time and show Wyatt Earp a Glock he'd probably give up a limb or a testicle to get one.
Well said.
Ok everyone can relax I too love the fantastic plastic and only carry a plastic one my point was if I had nothing else thats all. A sharp stick it better than no stick I didnt think it would go this far. Sorry to get off focus I like the pistol none the less thats all.
If I hit the lottery it will be easy to tell as suddenly peacemakers, broom-handled Mausers, Lugers, S&W registered magnums, and lots of other guns will become instantly very scarce as I go on a buying spree of pornographic proportions.
While all of your post was appropriate and well-written, I laughed out loud at this, if only because it mirrors my own musings of lottery gold. The only difference is, I'd make it my mission to own every remaining transferable FG-42 in the US, followed shortly by M1919s, BARs, MG-34s, MG-42s, MP-43s, MP-40s, etc etc. :)
But in all honesty, I'm in something of this dilemma myself. For years, I've carried a well-worn Beretta 92 Elite, one of the original Team Beretta IDPA guns. I love the gun, and the only modifications I've done are adding CT lasergrips and painting a white dot on the front sight. But over the past few years, I've started to see the downsides. It's big and heavy, holsters are hard to find, and the gun is very difficult to replace if anything were ever to happen to it. Plus, with the sentimental attachment, I'm unwilling to do anything exotic like milling out the slide for a RDS. I'm starting to see the point of having Combat Tupperware that is reliable as my Beretta, but cheaper, and with no emotional attachment to worry about.
FYI... Im not planning on actually CCWing this gun. I bought it because, like Mr. Wayne above, I like old guns and SAA's in particular.
I originally went to the shop to pick up a Ruger Blackhawk, but this thing caught my eye. It was used in unfired condition and was only 25 bucks more than the Blackhawk.
So now that I have my .45 Colt itch is scratched, I think the Ruger will now be a Super Blackhawk.
Combat_Diver
09-03-10, 09:47
I love SA revolvers myself and you'll find one on my hip when I'm out in the woods tracking, hunting or fishing. If push came to shove, I'll have not problem using it. Now my CCW weapons are usually a 1911, Smith 58 or 442.
On the point referencing the shooter defending himself, I believe that was in Virgina/West Virgina conventence store. He was inside open carrying a 1858 Remington converted to .45 Colt (might have been a 75 Rem), bad guys came in shooting the clerk. He dove to the ground and smashed the trigger guard in. Ended up fanning the hammer back to shoot the shooter. Believe he was planning a day of woods roaming.
CD
I love SA revolvers myself and you'll find one on my hip when I'm out in the woods tracking, hunting or fishing. If push came to shove, I'll have not problem using it. Now my CCW weapons are usually a 1911, Smith 58 or 442.
On the point referencing the shooter defending himself, I believe that was in Virgina/West Virgina conventence store. He was inside open carrying a 1858 Remington converted to .45 Colt (might have been a 75 Rem), bad guys came in shooting the clerk. He dove to the ground and smashed the trigger guard in. Ended up fanning the hammer back to shoot the shooter. Believe he was planning a day of woods roaming.
CD
That happened here in my back yard. The guy was standing in line at a stop and rob when the bad guy came in and pointed his handgun at the clerk.
He had an Italian copy of a Remington 1875 in .45 Colt. He drew, shot, and the trigger broke. He apparently was able to get at least one more shot off.
Richmond shooting involving single action. (http://www.ammoland.com/2009/07/19/gun-owner-saves-lives-in-the-richmond-va-golden-market-shooting/)
Do you have the skill level of Clint Smith? I can make absurd statements about swords or maces, but that won't change the fact that those weapons, as well as the single-action revolver, are antiquated and sub-optimal in 2010.
B_C
you damn sure won't catch me carrying one. still maybe if you spent 90% of your time on single action... :fie:
ah hell.. carry a double action
Nostalgia is nice, but not a good criteria in choosing an effective defensive weapon.
GermanSynergy
09-03-10, 21:39
Nostalgia is nice, but not a good criteria in choosing an effective defensive weapon.
You mean I shouldn't carry my M1895 Nagant pistol in an AIWB?
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