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Just got two of these in and thought I would get some pics up. I must say that this is a really impressive optic for its size.
C4
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Aimpoint/T-1%20Top%20view.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Aimpoint/T-1%20front%20view.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Aimpoint/T-1%20side%20view.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Aimpoint/T-1%20mount.jpg
Grant, Do you see these being used as a primary optic on an AR? I think the size/weight would make them good for a SBR. Saw on TOS that LaRue will be making a mount for it.
Razorhunter
07-04-07, 19:08
Does these simply produce an aiming dot that is basically the same as the other Aimpoint optics???
Bulldog1967
07-04-07, 19:11
What are the specs, ie weight size, price?
thanks!
Jay Cunningham
07-04-07, 22:24
Looks like it will be relatively painless for LaRue to develop a mount for this.
Interested in pricing as well.
GG&G has a QD mount with flip open covers in their July flyer.
:cool: Billy
I think that thing would absolutely kick ass on my MP5's top RAS rail.
Height wise how well would a PRI M69 weapons mount for the PVS 14 fit behind it?
You can learn more about the Micro T-1 at www.aimpoint.com
It weighs 3.6 ounces, uses a CR2032 Lithium watch battery that lasts 50,000 hours (over 5 years) constantly on at setting 7. First four settings are for NVD use, upper 8 settings are visible. It is submersible to 85 feet. The dot is 4 MOA and it is designed to be used on shotguns, pistols, rifles/carbines, subguns, machineguns like the M249 and M240G, and compound bows using the HHA Optimizer mount. It will fit both Picatinny and Weaver rails. Retail for the Micro T-1 is $650, but expect advertised prices to be lower. The civilian Micro H-1 will retail for $600 and is just as rugged, but is not NVD compatible and only submersible to 15 feet.
LaRue Tactical and GG&G are both making risers for Micro use on M4/MK18s. Tactical Night Vision Co is now making a mount for 30mm and 1" scopes, the SAR3 and SAR1.
S/F
Grant, Do you see these being used as a primary optic on an AR? I think the size/weight would make them good for a SBR. Saw on TOS that LaRue will be making a mount for it.
Yes.
C4
Does these simply produce an aiming dot that is basically the same as the other Aimpoint optics???
Yes.
C4
What are the specs, ie weight size, price?
thanks!
Dot Size: 4MOA
NV Capable: Y
Power Settings: 12 (8 daylight/4 NV) It states in the brochure that one extra bright setting automatically adjusts.
Power Source: 3V CR2032
Battery Life: Over 5 years of Continous use at position 8.
Weight: 3.7 ounces with mount
Waterproof: 80ft
MAP: $585
C4
I would think that these would have a big following with the IPSC 3-gun crowd for that 3 o'clock or 1:30 mounting as a backup/cqb for a magnified optic.
Grant, what would you see as the pros/cons of using a mini in lieu of a "full size" ML3?
I would think that these would have a big following with the IPSC 3-gun crowd for that 3 o'clock or 1:30 mounting as a backup/cqb for a magnified optic.
Grant, what would you see as the pros/cons of using a mini in lieu of a "full size" ML3?
This will be popular in many differerent groups for sure. The price tag will scare of many though.
With the tube being smaller than a standard Aimpoint, you are narrowing your FOV. The mount of couse will not co-witness on a flattop AR. Other than that, I can can no fault with it.
C4
I wonder if this would find a good home on the XCR? Since one of the complaints I hear is that the standard AR sights/optic mounts sit too high, this might directly address that problem.
chapperjoe
07-05-07, 09:02
there is space on my 45 AR for this.....
Grant,
The Micro's "FOV" is essentially unlimited (or limited within the capabilities of your eyes) if you fight/shoot with both eyes open. It is often improperly stated by some that tubular red dot optics "limit" your field of view. This comment is often based on a lack of proper training. I know in your case that is not true and my comment is not mean't to imply that or be seen negatively by any other readers.
Rob S.
I have tried the Micro on the MagPul Masada and FN SCAR, both of which are somewhat similiar to the XCR regarding stock to rail height. You'll still need a small riser to get it proper height. Yankee Hill currently makes one that raises it about 1/2", but I haven't been able to try it yet.
Regarding height of other Aimpoints on the XCR et al, simply remove the spacers from the different mounts to achieve the proper height. Larue and GG&G mounts being the exceptions as they build their mounts at different fixed heights vice using spacers like Aimpoint or ARMS.
S/F
Grant,
The Micro's "FOV" is essentially unlimited (or limited within the capabilities of your eyes) if you fight/shoot with both eyes open. It is often improperly stated by some that tubular red dot optics "limit" your field of view. This comment is often based on a lack of proper training. I know in your case that is not true and my comment is not mean't to imply that or be seen negatively by any other readers.
Rob S.
I have tried the Micro on the MagPul Masada and FN SCAR, both of which are somewhat similiar to the XCR regarding stock to rail height. You'll still need a small riser to get it proper height. Yankee Hill currently makes one that raises it about 1/2", but I haven't been able to try it yet.
Regarding height of other Aimpoints on the XCR et al, simply remove the spacers from the different mounts to achieve the proper height. Larue and GG&G mounts being the exceptions as they build their mounts at different fixed heights vice using spacers like Aimpoint or ARMS.
S/F
You are right on my FOV comment. I meant it to imply that the smaller tube narrows everything compared to its big brother.
C4
Jay Cunningham
07-07-07, 14:48
LaRue:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/LaRue_Tactical/Micro_mount2.jpg
GG&G:
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/postimages/50226-GG%26GMicroT-1RiserMount.jpg
Wow, the GG&G riser is rather inspired - the LT a bit less so...
The GG&G pic is really weird as their T-1 looks nothing like the ones I have. I wonder if that isn't an eng. drop or something.
C4
The GG&G one does look odd. It looks like they tried to get a traditional ring type mount to work by grabbing the small diameter extensions at either end of the optic, and added their own extensions to hold the flip caps.:confused:
Jay Cunningham
07-07-07, 15:21
http://www.gggaz.com/uploaded_images/Aimpoint%20Scopes/Aimpoint-T-1-Mount.jpg
Robb Jensen
07-07-07, 16:41
I would think that these would have a big following with the IPSC 3-gun crowd for that 3 o'clock or 1:30 mounting as a backup/cqb for a magnified optic.
Yeah, I have done that with a H1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/b9dd408b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/5b39684e.jpg
Attached are pictures of the Micro T-1 on a LaRue Tactical Tall Riser, Short Riser, and the standard Aimpoint Micro Mount. The Short Riser and the standard Aimpoint Micro Mount are the same height. Difference is the Aimpoint throw lever.
Also there are pictures of the Micro on a LT Tall Riser with an Aimpoint 3X in an LT Pivot Mount and the 3X in the Aimpoint Twist Mount.
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Robb Jensen
07-12-07, 06:06
Attached are pictures of the Micro T-1 on a LaRue Tactical Tall Riser, Short Riser, and the standard Aimpoint Micro Mount. The Short Riser and the standard Aimpoint Micro Mount are the same height. Difference is the Aimpoint throw lever.
Also there are pictures of the Micro on a LT Tall Riser with an Aimpoint 3X in an LT Pivot Mount and the 3X in the Aimpoint Twist Mount.
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I've got over 1K rounds on my rifle now using the H1 as a close range optic (I love the speed of the H1 over JP iron sights). I just modified a Ruger 10/22 picatinny mount (Weigand Custom) to replace the JP 2" rail (I cut it down and refinished with Norrells flat black). The JP rail with the H1 was too short. It's now perfect and in the same plane as my Leupold in a Larue SPR-E mount so that I don't have to get down on the stock lower to use the H1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/e66298f3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/eeb6607d.jpg
The GG&G mount attaches only by the screws. The rings are to allow use of the flip up lense covers.
Its pretty slick actually.
The GG&G mount attaches only by the screws. The rings are to allow use of the flip up lense covers.
Its pretty slick actually.
It is neat, but not at the $200 price tag IMHO. The LT T-1 mount is only $98.
C4
I need two of those short mounts..
I need two of those short mounts..
I have both the LT tall and short mounts coming in early next week.
C4
It is neat, but not at the $200 price tag IMHO. The LT T-1 mount is only $98.
C4
Valid point, but on the other hand, Ive come to appreciate having lense covers for several reasons. Hope another solution comes along.
Since it can sit so low, I'd love to try it on an AK (i.e. Ultimak rail).
Kisara,
The link below will take you to an AAR with Pictures about the AK with a Micro.
S/F
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=49136&an=0&page=0#49136
chapperjoe
07-16-07, 16:48
Yeah, I have done that with a H1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/b9dd408b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/5b39684e.jpg
oh wow, if my VTAC tube had a stomach, it would be growling now.
That is a sweet setup.
I mounted my T-1 to the ARMS Tactical rail on my Mod0.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SPR.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SPRa.jpg
It seems no one uses these tactical rails for anything on all the Mod0 builds anymore.
However, for me, it is a better solution than the various offset mounts, rail mounts and so forth.
Even if mounted in the same plane (like gotm4's fabulous setup) I just have a problem "rotating" the rifle to acquire the dot. It might have something to do with my being a southpaw, corrective lenses, or the fact that I have a lot of training with A2 receivers with Aimpoint/ACOG sights.
To me, it's very natural to slide up the stock from the iron sights of a carry handle to acquire the Aimpoint or ACOG red dot/donut or vice versa.
This same motion works very well for the transition from the MR/T 3-9 scope to the T-1 dot and back. The "heads up" cheekweld when using the dot works very well for close shooting, and it seems natural to use both eyes when shooting this way.
Anyway, after a little time doing some rapid fire with the T-1 at the range, I'm very pleased with it's worth on this platform.
Robb Jensen
08-15-07, 11:08
Even if mounted in the same plane (like gotm4's fabulous setup) I just have a problem "rotating" the rifle to acquire the dot. It might have something to do with my being a southpaw, corrective lenses, or the fact that I have a lot of training with A2 receivers with Aimpoint/ACOG sights.
To me, it's very natural to slide up the stock from the iron sights of a carry handle to acquire the Aimpoint or ACOG red dot/donut or vice versa.
It takes a little getting used to but the efficiency of motion and VERY short amount of time (about a 1/2 second) it takes to transition from the main optic to the close range optic is VERY fast. I sight this optic is for 15yds and I can make head shots with in on a metric IPSC target as fast as I can pull the trigger. For me it's strictly a competition thing where it's all about speed, I don't think I would mount a H1 or T1 like this on a 'for real righting' rifle.
The way you have yours set up it would probably be good to sight in for 50yds and use it when at full power (8-10x) on your primary scope which would be quicker than reaching for and moving the power ring. For a precision rifle that would be the best way to run it.
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