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Nathan_Bell
07-07-07, 19:21
I have a multitude of ARs for various and sundry roles. I am now thinking of branching my collection out into different flavors of military style rifles. The order of purchasing I have in mind is such.

1. 7.62X39 AK, I am think of an arsenal, but am looking for ideas.

2. FN/FAL or a SA M1A not certain which one, I had a M1A before nad regret selling it, but not certain I regret it enough to get another yet.

3. AUG or AUG clone.

There are several others I am considering, but that is down the line. Anyone want to distill some wisdom on my shopping list?

Jay Cunningham
07-07-07, 19:30
I think you should save your pennies for a DSA SA58 series FAL variant.

Nathan_Bell
07-07-07, 19:56
So re-order my buying schedule to the DSA unit first. Are all the DSA 's SA58 GTG, or a specific one to look at?

Jay Cunningham
07-07-07, 20:10
I have one of these:

http://www.dsarms.com/images/SA58C.gif

And it's a heck of a rifle.

RWBlue
07-08-07, 10:41
I have a
Yugo underfolder. It is nice. It is fun to shoot. It is borring in that fact that it is not as accurate as an AR, but it always goes bang. I think it would be good for any collection.

I like my older M1A. It is more accurate than I. I have been hunting with it. I can't complain. But I think I will. I am not complaining about the rifle, but against ammo prices. I am lucky I stocked up before the prices jumped, but I hate to shoot it becasue I don't see any more cheap 308 in the near future.

Greyman09
07-08-07, 11:23
I have an FAL on order with DSA. I am looking forward to getting it soon. After that my next rifle will be a SA M1A scout.

AR-15A3
07-08-07, 12:01
Your list is fine and it will grow for sure after you get what's on your first list. :p

My non AR rifles:

AK - PolyTech X 3 (I'm going to get an Arsenal also)
IMI Galil AR
Steyr AUG A1 - X 2 a 20" standard model and a 16" M16 NATO conversion stock
SKS PolyTech
USGI M1 Garand from CMP
IMI Uzi .45/ 9mm carbine with Vector Grease Gun .45 mag conversion

I used to have a Springfield M1A National Match model and I built myself a Canadian FAL C1 type kit on an Imbel receiver but sold both during the AWB, I will replace them later on with DSA FAL and a custom built M1A Match rifle.

Robb Jensen
07-08-07, 14:55
M1 Garand !

Snake RAH
07-08-07, 15:20
My first choice would be an AK variant, in 7.62x39 flavor. Simply because it is the preferred weapon of our enemies, and it makes a distinctive sound when fired at you. :D

Seriously, the AK. I have two semiauto 7.62 NATO guns (M1a and AR10) and they are expensive to buy ($1200 and up) and feed. No one who produces their own 7.62 NATO is using it for battle rifles...it's all going to GPMGs. Therefore, $12+ for 20 rounds of 147gr FMJ makes for expensive shooting.

M1 Garands are cool, but unless you are a member of the CMP, buying ammo for it that you can shoot out of it gets expensive too. A Schuster adjustable gas plug will allow you to buy commercial .30-06, but .30-06 is even more expensive than .308/7.62 NATO.

C4IGrant
07-08-07, 15:45
Everyone needs an Ak (good Lord, did that just come out of my mouth)??? :eek:


C4

Dom
07-08-07, 17:27
M1a for sure.

Cameron
07-08-07, 19:21
DSA SA58 FAL PARA Tactical Carbine .308 Cal
16.25" Fluted Medium Contour Barrel with Threaded A2 Flashider
Shortened Gas System w/ Short Military Grade Handguard
FAL A2 Hampton Lower With Integral M16A2 Sight System
SA58/FAL LOP Side Folding 5 Position Adjustable SOCOM Stock
SAW pistol grip

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m198/2007cam/DSA%20Para/CamzDSA01.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m198/2007cam/DSA%20Para/CamzDSA02.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m198/2007cam/DSA%20Para/SA58andIOR01.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m198/2007cam/DSA%20Para/SA58andIOR04.jpg

DRich
07-08-07, 21:10
I have a few others that I enjoy:

Imbel Para FAL...I've beaten the crap out of this rifle over the years and it still works like a champ. Dirty, clean, dry, wet, it just doesn't care.

http://texbiker.com/pics/para1.jpg
http://texbiker.com/pics/para2.jpg


Bulgarian AKS74...cheap to feed, 2-3MOA accurate, no recoil and very light.

http://texbiker.com/pics/bulgy1.jpg
http://texbiker.com/pics/bulgy2.jpg


Polish AKMS...just because science has proven that underfolders are twice as evil as fixed stock AK's

http://texbiker.com/pics/uf2.jpg
http://texbiker.com/pics/uf1.jpg

Plus, I've got a plethora of fixed stock AK's and a couple of fixed stock FAL's in the safe for good measure. If you've got an AR, you really need an AK to balance the yin/yang in your collection. :D

ARCollector
07-24-07, 19:13
After numerous ar purchases, eight or nine now i think, I have purchased an ar-10 sass from armalite and have begun to work on my ak collection. I have bought three so far an underfolder, a side folder and a straight akm, all romanian. I believe i'm going to get a belt fed rpd and a dragonuv and call it quits on the ak's. I will eventually refinish them all to make them a litttle more russian. Next I will try to knock out the uzi's and then onto the hk's. Uzi wont' be too big of a problem becasue there arent' that many models. The hk's will take a while. All in all i'm gonna have to find a sloty to throw in the barret of course 82a1 .50. And I think that will definately take priority over the psg-1.

Well that should occupy me for the next 2 to three years, lol

--just my input.

ARCollector
07-24-07, 19:15
I forgot to mention the fal's and i'm gonna save them for last because i'll proly go with dsa adn i feel they will always be around and be the same price. The cheap other surplus guns may not alwyas be avaialbale and they may not always be cheap.

Gunfixr
07-25-07, 01:47
I like my FAL. I built it myself. It's a hybrid, with an Inch lower and a Metric upper.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k31/Gunfixr/DuracoatFAL001.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k31/Gunfixr/DuracoatFAL002.jpg

MH64
07-25-07, 09:20
An AK. One each in 7.62x39 and 5.45x39.
M1 Garand
M1 carbine
At least one variant of FN FAL. I prefer the metrics over inch.

SGB
07-26-07, 00:03
Maybe I'm just OLD but seems to me that Assault rifle originally meant a shoulder fired firearm of intermediate cartridge capable of select fire. IE: M-16, AK-47, MP44 etc.

While current popular media has taken "Assault Rifle" to include the semi automatic versions of "true" assault rifles I believe that the full power rifle cartridges fall into the "Main Battle Rifle" category. Being the M1, FAL, M-14, G3 etc.

Gunfixr
07-26-07, 02:56
Yes, the 7.62x51 caliber rifles would be clasified as Main Battle Rifles. The thread is titled "What non-AR should one own". It doesn't limit responses to assault rifles. Also, there is only one true "Assault Rifle", the German STG-44. All others are merely assault-type rifles.

MX5
07-26-07, 04:38
FAL & UZI

Army Chief
07-26-07, 05:20
Another vote for a DCM/CMP Garand.

There will always be time for the others, but the supply of arsenal M1s is finite, and this is the battle rifle that belongs in every rifleman's safe. I favor the M1A as well, but first things first. :)

Chief

Line Rider
07-28-07, 11:19
+1 M-1 Garand

Either a FN FAL or HK-91

Remington 700 in .308 Winchester

Turnkey11
07-28-07, 19:09
I think you need a...

M14 type rifle
G3 type rifle
FAL
both milled and stamped AKs
FNC
AUG

then you can start worrying about magazines for each!:D

Gunfighter13
07-28-07, 20:05
XCR or Masada would be nice. M1 or FAL to. H&K 91 maybe.
http://demigodllc.com/photo/Magpul-Masada/small/D100_8709_img.jpg

xcibes
11-25-07, 18:55
Daewoo K2
m1 garand
M1 carbine
FAL
AKM or AKMS


to name a few

condition 1
11-29-07, 08:23
I going to get blown back to the stone age for this... :( I will be the first to say mini 14, I have 2 GB's that I bought for my boys, 12 & 10, to shoot ,moving them up from 10/22s. I wanted them to learn to shoot open sights, glass on a mini is like lipstick on a pig, looks nice but still a pig, minis are fun to shoot kinda like a carbine, but in 5.56 good for shooting cans and plinking, and a little target shooting, not a bad gun, they like'm.... " flame on"

texasyid
11-29-07, 20:59
I chose an Arsenal Classic underfolder for my other than AR rifle. If you get an AK make it an arsenal. There are a lot of nice rifles out there. I always did want one of those pre ban Steyr Augs though.
My .02