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SOMEBODY makes these; I've seen them. Just spent an hour searching, with no joy.
What I'm talking about is a pouch to hold a single magazine, for wear on a standard (1.5") gun belt, alongside the pistol mag pouch.
Any ideas?
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Lou Alessi.
http://www.louderthanwords.us/smallfoto/picts/ulfls/1605104/14789714074.jpg
Picture is courtesy of my pal Jason Burton.
Thanks Sam.
I contacted them; at sixty bucks a pop, and a 20 week or more wait, think I'll look elsewhere; or use my cargo pockets...:D
I have a pair of Alessi's plus one of unkown origin.
Good luck "looking elsewhere", there are none that I could find. I waited for the Alessis.
militarymoron
07-12-07, 19:34
http://www.heinie.com/leather.php
seem to carry something that looks like it's made by alessi. priced at $45 though.
http://www.heinie.com/leather.php
seem to carry something that looks like it's made by alessi. priced at $45 though.
Heinie's leather products ARE made by Lou Alessi. This is the notice posted on Heinie's website concerning the leather products:
At this time, Heinie is not accepting any orders on our Heinie/Alessi leather products. Turn around time on delivery from Alessi has become quite extensive and we are currenlty waiting for several leather products to be completed. Upon receipt of our current back orders, we will resume accepting new orders from our customers. If at this time you already have a leather product on order, we have every intention of filling it as soon as possible, however, if you would like to cancel, we do understand. You may contact us at sdavis@heinie.com for questions or concerns about your leather order.
You may want to try www.miltsparks.com
I'm not sure if Tony make AR pouches or not, regardless, the wait will be long there also.
Good luck "looking elsewhere", there are none that I could find. I waited for the Alessis.
You are right sir.
Plan ahead.
Sorry, doh! I have milt Sparks.
I'll try to post pics soon.
militarymoron
07-12-07, 20:41
how about hoffners? http://www.hoffners.com/minp6.jpg
He said leather, that's why we're sticking with Alessi and Sparks. Plastic pouches are a whole different can of worms. :)
look up Ken Null holsters and give him a call. I have one of his ankle holsters and the leather work is AWESOME. I do not know if he makes them for sure or not, but it is worth the call.
Checkhere:
http://http://www.epsaddlery.com/default.aspx (http://www.epsaddlery.com/default.aspx)
Send them the above photo. They may be able to help you out.
Here's the two I have. Sparks on the left.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/IMG_1221Medium.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/IMG_1222Medium.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/IMG_1225Medium.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/rob_s/gun%20stuff/IMG_1223Medium.jpg
That's EXACTLY what I'm looking for, Rob. Unfortunately, I have neither the time to wait nor the inclination to pay the freight. I didn't blink when I dropped large on Rosen goodies; but there's a lot of work involved there. Sixty bucks for something minimal like that pouch... nah.
jackinfl, I am well acquainted with Mr. Null's work; I have two of his ankle holsters. One I purchased in 1983, has been worn extensively, and is still serviceable. He would do something like this on a custom basis... but we're back to major dollars
Looks like I'll have to try Kydex if I want to pursue this idea.
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OK, how about this one, it's neither leather nor plastic. Simple, cheap and quick delivery. That's what you're looking for?
http://www.hunt101.com/img/505315.jpg
By London Bridge Trading Co.
Contact:
thimes@londonbridgetrading.com
www.londonbridgetrading.biz
Well, that's certainly interesting. Naturally, they're on back-order...:rolleyes:
Has anyone tried the Brownell's "polymer" pouch? I do not want plastic, but my options are diminishing rapidly...;)
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I have a kydex holder from www.pistolpacking.com but the site seems to be down right now.
When I was home yesterday taking pics of the leather, I KNEW I should have shot a couple of the kydex one as well.
I have a kydex holder from www.pistolpacking.com but the site seems to be down right now.
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BEWARE OF PISTOL PACKING AKA READY TACTICAL ! I haven't able to get in touch with the owner (Chris Stewart) for over a year. He make good products, I have 2 1911 mag pouches and 3 speed loaders from him, I have no problem with the quality. He was easy to get in touch with until about a year ago. I returned a holster to him (per his direction) to have some adjustment made. I haven't heard from him nor have I been able to contact him via email or phone. Half a dozen emails went unreplied or bounced back. My experience is not unique.
Back to regular programming.
That's EXACTLY what I'm looking for, Rob. Unfortunately, I have neither the time to wait nor the inclination to pay the freight. I didn't blink when I dropped large on Rosen goodies; but there's a lot of work involved there. Sixty bucks for something minimal like that pouch... nah.
Unfortunately it's not really minimal when you consider that it's a one (or in my case, two) off. I thought, and still do think, that $60 was a bargain.
Well, Rob, I understand what you're saying. What makes it difficult for me to agree with is an old saddle maker (regretfully, now deceased) who knocked out a revision - adding a magazine pouch, which required a near/total re-configuration of the arrangement - to my Null ankle rig that was originally made for a knife.
This fellow had never done anything for guns before; he just listened to me, looked at my sketch, took the proffered P220 mag for a size fit, and did it while I watched; for $25.
Point being, the work involved making a simple pouch like yours pictured IS minimal for a competent leathersmith. The only difficult part is getting the template right. It costs $60 because it has a "name" embossed on it... or the "name" built it.
Don't get me wrong; I'm NOT begrudging these guys their fame and profit. They have earned it.
I just don't need this accessory bad enough to pay that much... or wait that long.;)
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You're looking at it wrong.
What you're asking is for a production shop to have one of their worker-bees stop doing their production work and make a pouch.
I'd love to see a pic of what your saddlemaker churned out.
You're looking at it wrong.
Perhaps.
Send me your e-mail addy via PM and I'll shoot a pic; after I dig it out of the "don't use any more" box of goodies.
Retirement is good...;)
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SOMEBODY makes these; I've seen them. Just spent an hour searching, with no joy.
What I'm talking about is a pouch to hold a single magazine, for wear on a standard (1.5") gun belt, alongside the pistol mag pouch.
Any ideas?
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In addition to those mentioned, I've seen single pouches in basketweave finish, but it's been several years. They were about $20. IIRC, they were Tex Shoemaker or Strong.
For a single pouch, compatible with various belts, my preference is the Wildnerness offering here: http://store.thewilderness.com/product_info.php?cPath=12&products_id=23
For a single pouch, compatible with various belts, my preference is the Wildnerness offering here: http://store.thewilderness.com/product_info.php?cPath=12&products_id=23
Hmmm; definite possibility there.
Thank you.
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Well, that's certainly interesting. Naturally, they're on back-order...:rolleyes:
Has anyone tried the Brownell's "polymer" pouch? I do not want plastic, but my options are diminishing rapidly...;)
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I have one of their's. It's made by Bladetek with the Brownell's logo embossed. It has their tek-lok system and seems to be pretty GTG. I'm not sure what your intended use is, mine has only seen light range use so far.
-RD62
. I'm not sure what your intended use is...
Light range use, and having a spare mag handy when putzing about the homestead while waiting for the hordes to find my subdivision...:D
Thanks; this sounds like what I need.
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Jason Burton
07-18-07, 01:48
... Point being, the work involved making a simple pouch like yours pictured IS minimal for a competent leathersmith. The only difficult part is getting the template right. It costs $60 because it has a "name" embossed on it... or the "name" built it...
Hmm... not sure about that one... I suspect there's a bit more to it than that. :rolleyes:
As for where to find a pouch... to my knowledge the only quality makers producing a leather AR mag carrier are, as others have already mentioned, Alessi and Sparks... Josh Bulman also makes a very nice carrier that is essentially the same design as Lou Alessi's.
Here's the two I have. Sparks on the left.
Rob, the pouch on the right looks like it may be from Bruce Nelson. Are there any markings on it?
Light range use, and having a spare mag handy when putzing about the homestead while waiting for the hordes to find my subdivision...:D
Thanks; this sounds like what I need.
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You still holding out for leather or is kydex an option?
Rob, the pouch on the right looks like it may be from Bruce Nelson. Are there any markings on it?
Not that I can find. I prefer the Sparks pouches, as I think the unmarked one is really intended for a 20 rounder and I'll probably limit it to use with those.
I got the unmarked one in trade for a kydex.
Hmm... not sure about that one... I suspect there's a bit more to it than that. :rolleyes:
I see. And where can I find your line of leather goods?
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You still holding out for leather or is kydex an option?
Going to try the Brownell's offering; although I may contact this Bulman fellow and see what he offers.
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Going to try the Brownell's offering; although I may contact this Bulman fellow and see what he offers.
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Okey doke. Otherwise I can make something up without tech-lock.
Jason Burton
07-18-07, 22:27
I see. And where can I find your line of leather goods?
I think we both know it doesn’t exist... but I’m glad we could clear that for everyone else. :rolleyes:
My point is this, there is far more that goes into making functional, durable, quality holsters and accessories than one may think. Just “getting the template right” and stamping a name on it isn’t enough to justify ones prices or lead times, those things are earned through knowledge and a commitment to quality. Dismissing ones prices as a whim of the maker or simply due to ones popularity is probably a bit insulting to those who make their living at that trade. You might find it interesting that one very popular and long standing holster maker specifically prices each of their products so that they make the same margin on each. Many of the products they make could easily sell for more than what they do but in order to specifically not price ‘gouge’ the customer each product has the same profit margin relative to the actual cost to make the rig. The point, to be able to provide the highest quality product at the lowest possible price and considering what a stitching machine or die clicker and a set of dies costs I’d say that’s generous.
Rob – PM sent... :)
My point is this, there is far more that goes into making functional, durable, quality holsters and accessories than one may think.
Agreed. I acknowledged that (you're paying for knowledge and experience, as well as labor and materials) in an earlier post.
MY point, your cute little rolleyes icon aside, is that I have stood beside a competent (and well known in his day; Carl Martin) leathersmith and watched him make similar items. There really ISN'T that much to a simple mag pouch that isn't hand-boned, etc.
I have several semi-custom leather holsters, a Rosen and two Kramers among others, and didn't blink at the price; I know their value. MY point was, I don't feel like paying custom prices for a simple mag pouch.
Too bad that annoyed you; but, hey... we all have things that bug us.
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Okey doke. Otherwise I can make something up without tech-lock.
Thanks, guy. I'll keep that in mind.
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Thanks, guy. I'll keep that in mind.
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I'll make one up anyway, I can always use it myself.
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