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variablebinary
09-21-10, 21:35
4G service has been launched in Salt Lake City. I took a trip down to the clear Kiosk and picked up a modem with a 14 day no commitment return policy. Out the door, everything was like $51.

Keep it past 14 days and you get a two year contract, which will cost $40 to get out of if you hate the service. I had the option of buying or leasing the modem. Don't buy the modem. This technology is evolving fast and you don't want to get stuck with useless equipment. Leasing the modem will cost you $5 a month.

Install was brain dead stuff. Plug in power supply, connect network cable, and you're done. You might want to test the modem in different locations to see if you can get a better reception.

How does it perform? I signed up for a the 6 meg download, 1 meg upload, unlimited usage package. The coverage map said I was right between a couple of towers. In my home I get 3 out 5 bars max, never higher, sometimes lower.

This reception translates to an average download speed of 4-5 meg at peak times, and upload speed of 1 meg very consistently. Ping was as low as 65ms to a server in Denver CO. As far as NYC ping was 115ms

Email, youtube, Hulu, Limewire, and FTP all worked great. No drama at all. You'd be hard pressed not to think you were on DSL or Cable connection. It's very seemless, fast, and reliable.

VOIP over Google talk and Skype were perfect. I was concerned about possible latency, but nope, it was all good

Next I fired up Modern Warfare 2. My connection in game was always in the 3 bar range. The game flowed nicely. I didn't sense any lag on a regular basis. Every once in awhile, there was a slight amount of lag when using the 203. It was delayed firing by a fraction of second. Still, it was perfectly playable

Synopsis: The Clear 4G service is very good. Based upon my current experience, it can replace cable and DSL easily for the majority of users, including VOIP customers. If all you do is surf, watch porn, email and hang out on M4C, you are good to go.

The most demanding gamer used to 20-50ms ping will be well served, with a slight dip in performance compared to cable.

I am using the home service, but there is a portable package with a USB modem that will give you 4G service on the go. There is also a hotspot device where you can connect 5 devices on the go.

Note, Clearwire and Clear are not the same. Clearwire is an older service, and Clear is 4G. If this service interest you, make sure you are looking at 4G only

Here is the last speed test I did a few seconds ago

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Hmac
09-21-10, 21:44
Nice!

Got a ways to go though...

http://mccollister.info/clear4g.jpg

variablebinary
09-21-10, 21:56
Nice!

Got a ways to go though...



That map is outdated. SLC, UT isn't highlighted.

Bolt_Overide
09-21-10, 21:56
cant wait for this to get in my area, do want 4g phone service....

M4arc
09-21-10, 21:58
DSL Killer?

Dude, DSL has been dead since 2001...










:D

variablebinary
09-21-10, 21:59
cant wait for this to get in my area, do want 4g phone service....

Within an hour of playing with the home 4G service, I ran down to the sprint store to play with a 4G phone. It was blazing. I still have 4 months till my free upgrade.

3G is a dinosaur in comparison.


DSL Killer?

Dude, DSL has been dead since 2001...


True. That is about when I dumped DSL for cable. I've always hated DSL tech.

5pins
09-21-10, 22:01
What is your monthly bill?

variablebinary
09-21-10, 22:04
What is your monthly bill?

$50 and change. Less than cable because the taxes and fees are cheaper or non-existent.

We get like 3 additional charges on cable service in Utah.

Hmac
09-21-10, 22:05
3G is a dinosaur in comparison.


Yeah, but ...Sprint....

I've heard 4G is fast. I wonder how much faster than LTE...

Hmac
09-21-10, 22:08
That map is outdated. SLC, UT isn't highlighted.

Yeah, it was off their current website. But I do note they have big plans for increasing the service areas - looks like almost 75 cities by the end of the year.

variablebinary
09-21-10, 22:15
Yeah, but ...Sprint....

I've heard 4G is fast. I wonder how much faster than LTE...

LTE is going to be amazing when it drops. This is good reason not to buy a 4G modem.

Sprint/Clear will probably be looking at "WIMAX 2.0" by the time LTE get's good penetration. Last I read, LTE wasn't getting rolled out until 2011.

LTE is said to have better capacity, and lower latency. We'll see. Either way, the customer benefits.

SHIVAN
09-21-10, 22:20
Not sure, but I don't think the 4G network is running in DC yet...considered it because of the unlimited data option while on 4G, but 5GB limit if on 3G.

CyberM4
09-21-10, 22:35
Those are NOT 4G speeds. No one has 4G. Super 3G hits 250-350 Mbps download. With Uplink of 50-80 Mbps. Super 3G is 3.9G.

variablebinary
09-22-10, 01:30
Another test ran at 12:30AM to see what off peak hours are like. Currently have 2 stable reception bars on device.

Going to test modern warfare 2 and see how it feels now compared to my cable conn.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/962840623.png

mr_smiles
09-22-10, 01:39
http://www.speedtest.net/result/962846097.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm a competitive guy, what can I say. :D

And now some one's going to post a speed smoking mine, but to be fair I went for around the same difference around 350miles. But Modesto is quite a bit further than 350 miles from me.

variablebinary
09-22-10, 02:22
http://www.speedtest.net/result/962846097.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm a competitive guy, what can I say. :D

And now some one's going to post a speed smoking mine, but to be fair I went for around the same difference around 350miles. But Modesto is quite a bit further than 350 miles from me.

That's close to what I get with comcast cable, but I want to be un-tethered, so to speak, and this was my way of seeing if 4G delivered enough where I wouldn't feel the need to pay for home internet and 4G portable internet.

Since coverage is good in the valley, I will be close to never needing anyone's slow, hacked, Wi-fi ever again.

Honu
09-22-10, 02:52
http://www.speedtest.net/result/962846097.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm a competitive guy, what can I say. :D

And now some one's going to post a speed smoking mine, but to be fair I went for around the same difference around 350miles. But Modesto is quite a bit further than 350 miles from me.

would like my wireless to be better ?

my land line is pretty good :)

heheheheh just to be competitive I went farther :) hehehehehe


http://www.speedtest.net/result/962890985.png

mr_smiles
09-22-10, 03:57
would like my wireless to be better ?

my land line is pretty good :)

heheheheh just to be competitive I went farther :) hehehehehe


http://www.speedtest.net/result/962890985.png

SOB! :D

variablebinary
09-22-10, 04:19
My usual cable connection compared to fastest Clear test. Cable is smokin', but I can take Clear wherever I go in the city, which is probably the biggest appeal of 4G.

3G is at the bottom

http://www.speedtest.net/result/940986473.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/962625602.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/960316279.png

Rated21R
09-22-10, 07:06
http://www.speedtest.net/result/963085454.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm happy with Comcast. I used to have Qwest DSL, it was all we could get. I dropped that like a hot potato when I could. I want fast, travel ready internet, clear could be good, someday.

Sry0fcr
09-22-10, 07:42
Yeah I've been thinking about making the switch I have 18MB down with U-Verse but on WIFI which I'm on 90% of the time I'm not getting close to that and I can only use it at home...

5pins
09-22-10, 07:49
This is what I get with Time Warner cable. My comcast cable in Spokane was much higher offten in the high 20’s to low 30’s.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/963118285.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

altav
09-22-10, 08:40
Clear is definitely a good product which allows you do to some pretty cool stuff while on the move within their coverage area... Their bundled product offerings are a great deal as well. But I think that their biggest benefit is that the service is truly unlimited - no data cap at all (at least not for now.)

A few things though:




Note, Clearwire and Clear are not the same. Clearwire is an older service, and Clear is 4G. If this service interest you, make sure you are looking at 4G only



Clearwire = Clear

There is no difference.




Sprint/Clear will probably be looking at "WIMAX 2.0" by the time LTE get's good penetration. Last I read, LTE wasn't getting rolled out until 2011.



Clear is actually conducting testing using LTE equipment as wimax is on track to lose the technology battle for the masses.

Also, the first LTE market is already live in Las Vegas via MetroPCS. Verizon will be launching their LTE network in about 30 markets in aprox. 45 days. Late to the party is AT&T, which is testing LTE in two markets now with plans to launch in mid-2011.

IMHO, once Verizon's LTE networks lights up, it'll be game over for everyone else.

Business_Casual
09-22-10, 09:03
Sprint is toast.

Only VZ and ATT have the capital budgets to roll out ubiquitous networks in the long term.

B_C

Honu
09-22-10, 11:47
My usual cable connection compared to fastest Clear test. Cable is smokin', but I can take Clear wherever I go in the city, which is probably the biggest appeal of 4G.

3G is at the bottom

http://www.speedtest.net/result/940986473.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/962625602.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/960316279.png

that is what I want someday :) super fast anywhere wireless :)