1911 Series 70 (or GI) firing pin

[QuietShootr]

Anyone have one, or know who makes a 70 series pin without the cut for the S80 safety?

[rubberneck]

Anyone have one, or know who makes a 70 series pin without the cut for the S80 safety?


Ed Brown Products
EGW
Wilson Combat
Caspian Arms

[QuietShootr]

Ed Brown Products - nope. that's a 70/80
EGW -same
Wilson Combat -same
Caspian Arms -same

If it was that simple, I wouldn't have had to ask the question. :rolleyes:

[rubberneck]

If it was that simple, I wouldn't have had to ask the question. :rolleyes:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=253130B

A simple thanks but that isn't what I was looking for would have been suffice.

[QuietShootr]

thank you!

[SGB]

Call me stupid but I'm not sure what the question is. :confused:

[rhino]

Double Star 1911 Parts at Brownells (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=8747&title=1911+AUTO+PARTS)

560-451-501
Firing Pin, .45ACP (B) $5.75

560-451-502
Firing Pin, .45ACP (S) $7.65

[rhino]

Call me stupid but I'm not sure what the question is. :confused:


Almost all .45ACP firing pins are now manufactured to work in Series 80 guns (the Colt and Para-Ordnance type of firing pin block safety). Since they also work in guns with no firing pin safety, they only have to make one type.

There are certain applications (like defeating the Swartz-type firing pin block on Kimber Series II gun) where an old-fashioned Series 70/non-series 80 firing pin is required.

[QuietShootr]

Almost all .45ACP firing pins are now manufactured to work in Series 80 guns (the Colt and Para-Ordnance type of firing pin block safety). Since they also work in guns with no firing pin safety, they only have to make one type.

There are certain applications (like defeating the Swartz-type firing pin block on Kimber Series II gun) where an old-fashioned Series 70/non-series 80 firing pin is required.

Exactly what I'm using it for.

[rhino]

Exactly what I'm using it for.

If had done such a thing to, say hypothetically to a Kimber Eclipse Target II with a finicky firing pin safety, I might know that Brownells part number 560-451-502 worked nicely to solve the problem of a bad implementation of a so-so-design intended to solve a non-existent problem.

[QuietShootr]

thank you for that - I ordered a couple from Numrich as above, but I'd rather have one I know the provenance of.

any galling problems? Have you pencil-tested it? How many rounds?

thanks

[rhino]

thank you for that - I ordered a couple from Numrich as above, but I'd rather have one I know the provenance of.

any galling problems? Have you pencil-tested it? How many rounds?

thanks

I only pencil test after I clean it, which happens ... well . . . but I have done it in the past.

I had an Ed Brown grip safety installed and after that, I had a misfire about once every magazine when shooting strong hand or weak hand only (although it was okay with a two hand grip). I thought, "better safe than sorry."

I can't find my old log book and my spreadsheet doesn't go back to the date when I had the grip safety installed. I can tell you that the gun has fired approximately 11,217 rounds total and the records I have are of the last 1362 rounds fired through the gun (zero malfunctions). I'd estimate that at least 9500 to 10000 of the total are from after I changed the grip safety and subsequently installed the firing pin.

[QuietShootr]

I only pencil test after I clean it, which happens ... well . . . but I have done it in the past.

I had an Ed Brown grip safety installed and after that, I had a misfire about once every magazine when shooting strong hand or weak hand only (although it was okay with a two hand grip). I thought, "better safe than sorry."

I can't find my old log book and my spreadsheet doesn't go back to the date when I had the grip safety installed. I can tell you that the gun has fired approximately 11,217 rounds total and the records I have are of the last 1362 rounds fired through the gun (zero malfunctions). I'd estimate that at least 9500 to 10000 of the total are from after I changed the grip safety and subsequently installed the firing pin.

Sounds good to me. If you ever decide to clean it again:D could you let me know how it does on the test, and how the pin looks?

[rhino]

Sounds good to me. If you ever decide to clean it again:D could you let me know how it does on the test, and how the pin looks?


Will do!

In fact, if our paths cross at Boone Co. this summer, I'll pull the firing pin out of it and let you look at it. Bring a wet wipe for your hands, though. :D

[QuietShootr]

Actually, I found an old GI pin today and put it in, and it ran like a raped ape for 240 rounds. I disassembled it and observed no visible wear, and it appeared to launch a pencil just as high as the factory pin.

Looks like we have a winner.

[rhino]

Actually, I found an old GI pin today and put it in, and it ran like a raped ape for 240 rounds. I disassembled it and observed no visible wear, and it appeared to launch a pencil just as high as the factory pin.

Looks like we have a winner.

There you have it!

Q: Did you do it just to avoid potential problems with the firing pin block, or did you have one that was causing misfires?

[QuietShootr]

There you have it!

Q: Did you do it just to avoid potential problems with the firing pin block, or did you have one that was causing misfires?

I did it to avoid problems. It's a NIB used gun that I got very righteously. I hate the Swartz safety system, but I'm loath to remove safety parts.

I'm kinda ashamed to admit it, because this gun is nearly everything I think is a potential problem in a 1911 all rolled into one gun, but I really like the little S.O.B. it's an Ultra Carry II but in spite of that it's surprisingly accurate (I can hit a 4" plate at 40 yards with it more often than not) and has fired 625 rounds of ball, 200gr SWC, 200gr +P, 230gr Ranger, and more in the last three weeks with NO malfunctions. Once I hit 1000 rounds I may actually start carrying it once in a while. I do love my Warrior, but sometimes....

[rhino]

I'm kinda ashamed to admit it, because this gun is nearly everything I think is a potential problem in a 1911 all rolled into one gun, but I really like the little S.O.B. it's an Ultra Carry II but in spite of that it's surprisingly accurate (I can hit a 4" plate at 40 yards with it more often than not) and has fired 625 rounds of ball, 200gr SWC, 200gr +P, 230gr Ranger, and more in the last three weeks with NO malfunctions. Once I hit 1000 rounds I may actually start carrying it once in a while. I do love my Warrior, but sometimes....

I had a similar experience with an original Kimber Compact model.

I tried to make it malfunction, and I couldn't. I did make a huge error with it, though. After I had it a while, I decided to replace the recoil spring since the little guns tend to wear them out a little more quickly. Since the barrel was four inches, I assumed (incorrectly) that it used the same spring as the Springfield Champion or Compact. My mistake made it short stroke occasionally, until I realized that it takes the same springs as the Springfield Ultra Compact or Colt's Officer's ACP. Once I fixed that mistake, it was again so reliable it was boring.

I wish the full-size 1911s that have crossed my path were as good!