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Molon
10-30-10, 19:22
Sneak Preview

Hornady 75 grain 5.56 NATO Superformance


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Hornady’s newest line of ammunition in 223 Remington/5.56mm NATO, “Superformance”, is now shipping. Of particular interest to AR-15 shooters is their 75 grain 5.56 NATO Superformance load. Hornady claims a velocity of 2920 fps for this load from a "20 inch NATO-spec test barrel."


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From Hornady's website.



The 5.56 NATO Superformance load is topped with the “T1” 75 grain BTHP projectile. There is a slight taper crimp at the case mouth and no case-mouth sealant.



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Naturally this load is charged with one of the new, “highly progressive” Superformance powders. According to Hornady, the Superformance propellants “provide a longer duration/application of peak pressure in the pressure time curve that occurs within the barrel. In other words, both Superformance and standard propellants provide an equally powerful 'push' applied to the base of the bullet, but with Superformance propellants, the 'push' is applied for a longer period of time.”



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From Hornady’s website.



The lot of 5.56 NATO Superformance ammunition that I evaluated is loaded in Lake City 09 brass. The primer pockets are crimped and sealed.


Chronographing of the 75 grain 5.56 NATO Superformance ammunition was conducted using an Oehler 35-P chronograph with “proof screen” technology. All velocities listed below are muzzle velocities as calculated from the instrumental velocities using Oehler’s Ballistic Explorer software program. All strings of fire consisted of 10 rounds each. Data was obtained from a Colt 20” M16A2 barrel.


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Each round was single-loaded and cycled into the chamber from a magazine fitted with a single-load follower. The bolt locked-back after each shot allowing the chamber to cool in between each shot. This technique was used to mitigate the possible influence of “chamber-soak” on velocity data. Each new shot was fired in a consistent manner after hitting the bolt release. Atmospheric conditions were monitored and recorded using a Kestrel 4000 Pocket Weather Tracker.


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Atmospheric conditions:

Temperature: 58 degrees F.
Humidity: 32%
Barometric pressure: 29.65 inches of Hg
Elevation: 950 feet above sea level


For comparison, I fired the Superformance load back-to-back with Hornady’s 75 grain 5.56 NATO TAP T2 and 75 grain 223 Remington TAP FPD. The chronograph data is shown in the table below.



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There were no manifest over-pressure signs on the case-heads of the fired Superformance rounds.


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An accuracy Snapshot of the 5.56 NATO Superformance load was obtained from a distance of 100 yards shooting from my bench-rest set-up. The test vehicle was a chrome-lined, NATO chambered 20” Colt HBAR with a 1:7” twist. The barrel was free-floated. The free-float handguard of the rifle rested in a Sinclair Windage Benchrest, while the stock of the rifle rested in a Protektor bunny-ear rear bag. Sighting was accomplished via a Leupold VARI-X III set at 25X magnification and adjusted to be parallax-free at 100 yards. A mirage shade was attached to the objective-bell of the scope. Wind conditions on the shooting range were continuously monitored using a Wind Probe.


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A quick 10-shot control group fired from the above set-up using match-grade hand-loads had an extreme spread of 1.2”.


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The 10-shot group of the 75 grain 5.56 NATO Superformance load had an extreme spread of 3.4” and a mean radius of 1.16”.



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For the Internet Commandos in our viewing audience tonight, here’s a pic of a cherry picked, 3-shot group of the 5.56 NATO Superformance load.http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif The group has an extreme spread of 1.263”.


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For comparison, I also fired a 10-shot group of Hornady’s new .223 Remington 53 grain Superformance load. This load uses a brand new bullet from Hornady, the 53 grain V-MAX. The ogive of the bullet is tailored for .223 Remington chambers. This load produced a sizzling muzzle velocity of 3285 fps when chronographed from a 20” Colt M16A2 barrel.


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The 53 grain V-MAX is shown on the left compared to a 52 grain A-MAX on the right.

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The 10-shot group of the 53 grain Superforance load had an extreme spread of 1.213” with a mean radius of 0.458”. It will be interesting to see how this load performs out of my .223 Remington chambered Krieger barreled AR-15.



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To be continued . . .

Keesh
10-30-10, 20:29
Looks great, interesting results. I look forward to seeing how it prints on paper.

Abraxas
10-30-10, 22:17
Glad to see it. I just wish that the T2 TAP was easier to get a hold of. Hopefully I will be able to find this easier

Artos
10-31-10, 09:01
Thanks for your time on this...i value your posts.

d90king
10-31-10, 09:52
Looking forward to following your input. Oddly enough I will be trying out some Superformance 150gr .308 and comparing it to 175gr GMM in a couple hours...

mtdawg169
10-31-10, 14:18
I hope you get to test this in your Kreiger barrelled upper. I tried it out in my SR15 and it was over 2" at 80 yards. Belmont had even worse results. Then again, it is a very hot load. Looking forward to your results Molon.

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FromMyColdDeadHand
10-31-10, 14:49
Does it have to have a rifle length gas system or an adjustable system like the .308 ammo? I tried some of the 178gr in my LMT MWS with the 16 inch chrome barrel and a PRS stock with rifle spring and buffer and I popped two out of 16 primers. No mention on the box, but their website suggests an adjustable gas system for the carbine length gas systems.

vicious_cb
10-31-10, 17:15
Interesting, I wonder if this could be a good alternative to the virtually non-existent 5.56 T2 ammo.

Belmont31R
10-31-10, 17:58
Does it have to have a rifle length gas system or an adjustable system like the .308 ammo? I tried some of the 178gr in my LMT MWS with the 16 inch chrome barrel and a PRS stock with rifle spring and buffer and I popped two out of 16 primers. No mention on the box, but their website suggests an adjustable gas system for the carbine length gas systems.




I had the same thing with my EMC, and Jason Hornady contacted me. They just started staking all 308 SuperPerformance rounds in Sep so until that old stock is depleted you may get an older lot that is not staked, and may pop primers.

I shot 40 rounds yesterday of the new SP 308 ammo that is staked, and had much better accuracy with no popped primers.

Interested to see how Molon does accuracy wise because I can't get a group smaller than 3" with the 5.56 SP rounds. Maybe my barrel just doesn't like it...it shoots other Hornady ammo with the T1 bullet into 10 shot 1.5" groups or less usually as long as I don't f-k the group up (usually do :().

mtdawg169
10-31-10, 18:59
I had no signs of overpressure with the 5.56 SP ammo in my SR15.

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Molon
10-31-10, 19:43
Accuracy Snapshots added to first post.

FromMyColdDeadHand
10-31-10, 21:49
Molon,

Is the chrome lined barrel used in this test since you see that the round will most often be used in that type of rifle? Chrome-lined or SS barrel- it doesn't look like this a super consistent round, as compared to other heavy loadings? Does it have a marked advantage in frag distance compared to .223 75/77 loadings, or even MK262?

Thanks for the work.

Molon
10-31-10, 22:19
Molon,

Is the chrome lined barrel used in this test since you see that the round will most often be used in that type of rifle?



Yes, but more importantly than that, a NATO chamber, since this is a hot NATO pressure load. You don’t see too many SS barrels with a true NATO chamber.




Molon,

Does it have a marked advantage in frag distance compared to .223 75/77 loadings, or even MK262?




Based on the muzzle velocities given in the first post of this thread from the 20" Colt M16A2 barrel, conservative reliable fragmentation thresholds for the three loads chronographed would be approximately:

190 yards for 223 TAP FPD
245 yards for 5.56 TAP T2
270 yards for 5.56 Superformance.


I personally have no use for MK262. It’s terminal ballistic properties are inferior to that of loads that use the Hornady 75 grain BTHP or Nosler 77 grain CC BTHP and if accuracy is the primary concern, there are a variety of .223 loads that are more accurate than MK262.


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Belmont31R
11-01-10, 01:07
Well glad to see I wasn't the only one with poor accuracy with the 75GR 5.56 SP load....



ETA: Well not glad with the poor accuracy but Id been accused of being a "flincher" per off site comms so in that regard Im glad Im not the only one, and several other people have reported poor accuracy, too.

Sensei
11-01-10, 02:22
Interesting, I wonder if this could be a good alternative to the virtually non-existent 5.56 T2 ammo.

These accuracy results, and the experience of other forum members, would suggest the these SP loadings are a poor substitute for TAP T2. the main reason is the poor accuracy results, but the lack of cannelure and case mouth sealant are other deficiencies. With accuracy being this poor, the extended fragmentation threshold is meaningless.

There is only one 75+ grain, NATO spec, OTM offering that is easily found on the civilian market: SSA 77 grain Sierra OTM. This load was a little less accurate than TAP T2, but only by a slight margin (shoots about 1 MOA in my SPR build). I do not believe that it has a case sealant like the T2, but I've learned to live with this. I heard rumors that SSA had improved on this load in the past few months, and I seem to be getting better accuracy results from my last two orders.

mtdawg169
11-01-10, 09:59
Well glad to see I wasn't the only one with poor accuracy with the 75GR 5.56 SP load....



ETA: Well not glad with the poor accuracy but Id been accused of being a "flincher" per off site comms so in that regard Im glad Im not the only one, and several other people have reported poor accuracy, too.

"Flincher".... Seriously?



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Belmont31R
11-01-10, 11:48
These accuracy results, and the experience of other forum members, would suggest the these SP loadings are a poor substitute for TAP T2. the main reason is the poor accuracy results, but the lack of cannelure and case mouth sealant are other deficiencies. With accuracy being this poor, the extended fragmentation threshold is meaningless.

There is only one 75+ grain, NATO spec, OTM offering that is easily found on the civilian market: SSA 77 grain Sierra OTM. This load was a little less accurate than TAP T2, but only by a slight margin (shoots about 1 MOA in my SPR build). I do not believe that it has a case sealant like the T2, but I've learned to live with this. I heard rumors that SSA had improved on this load in the past few months, and I seem to be getting better accuracy results from my last two orders.



The T2 is a good round but too hard to get regularly.

Scoby
11-01-10, 16:49
Molon:

I started a thread in this section about the PPU 75gr BTHP Match and you responded with some good info. and I appreciate that. I've also read this thread and the one posted by Belmont31R with alot of interest.

In comparing the PPU to the Hornady TAP T2 or SP this is what I'm still left pondering.

The PPU is approx. 250 fps slower than the T2 and 350 fps slower than the SP. Does the PPU have an acceptable frag distance @ 2,550 fps?

The TAP T2 has a cannelured bullet. The PPU and SP does not but has a slight taper crimp. Is there a danger of bullet setback in using the PPU or SP in a semi-auto? What's the risk here? From what I've read on here, there appears to be some differences of opinion on this. I'd like to hear your opinion on this.

It's obvious that the PPU is more accurate than the SP and half the cost of both the SP and the T2.

Should a bullet cannelure and approx. 300 fps dissuade me from considering this PPU for defensive purposes?

Scoby

DRT
11-02-10, 07:47
How does the same company that produces great ammo like 8126N T2 75gr 5.56mm TAP also make turds like this 5.56 SP 75gr, critical defense, and XTP?

Molon
11-04-10, 09:20
Molon:

Does the PPU have an acceptable frag distance @ 2,550 fps?



The fragmentation threshold of 2250 fps is for the Hornady projectile only. I'm not aware of a reliable figure that has been published for the PPU projectile.

Scoby
11-04-10, 10:41
Double post.

Scoby

Scoby
11-04-10, 11:02
Molon:

In comparing the PPU to the Hornady TAP T2 or SP this is what I'm still left pondering.

The TAP T2 has a cannelured bullet. The PPU and SP does not but has a slight taper crimp. Is there a danger of bullet setback in using the PPU or SP in a semi-auto? What's the risk here? From what I've read on here, there appears to be some differences of opinion on this. I'd like to hear your opinion on this.

Should a bullet cannelure and approx. 300 fps dissuade me from considering this PPU for defensive purposes?

Scoby

Molon:

It appears everyone is avoiding the bullet setback issue I keep asking about like it was diseased or something. I know folks have differing opinions about running non-cannelured rounds through a semi-auto.

What has been your experience?

Scoby

Molon
11-04-10, 11:17
Molon:

It appears everyone is avoiding the bullet setback issue I keep asking about like it was diseased or something. I know folks have differing opinions about running non-cannelured rounds through a semi-auto.

What has been your experience?

Scoby

I have never had a bullet set-back in firing thousands upon thousands of my hand-loads without a crimp. I've also never had a motor vehicle crash in the thousands upon thousands of miles that I've driven; but I still wear a seat-belt and carry auto-insurance.;)


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Scoby
11-04-10, 14:14
Thanks Molon.
That's kinda...sorta what I was hoping to hear.

I understand though. Kinda like a "enter at your own risk" sort of thing.

Thank again.

Scoby

Molon
11-07-10, 18:04
These accuracy results, and the experience of other forum members, would suggest the these SP loadings are a poor substitute for TAP T2. the main reason is the poor accuracy results, but the lack of cannelure and case mouth sealant are other deficiencies. With accuracy being this poor, the extended fragmentation threshold is meaningless.

There is only one 75+ grain, NATO spec, OTM offering that is easily found on the civilian market: SSA 77 grain Sierra OTM. This load was a little less accurate than TAP T2, but only by a slight margin (shoots about 1 MOA in my SPR build). I do not believe that it has a case sealant like the T2, but I've learned to live with this. I heard rumors that SSA had improved on this load in the past few months, and I seem to be getting better accuracy results from my last two orders.

Just an FYI; many lots of the 5.56 TAP do not have sealant at the case mouth, or the primer pockets, or both.


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Molon
11-09-10, 17:42
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UPDATE: Hornady 53 grain Superformance


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From Hornady’s website.

As previously mentioned, the 53 grain Superformance load uses a brand new bullet from Hornady, the 53 grain V-MAX.


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According to Hornady, this bullet has been “optimized for the .223 Remington chamber.” The pic below shows the new 53 grain V-MAX on the left compared to the 52 grain A-MAX on the right.

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It seemed only fitting to test this new load from a .223 Remington chambered AR-15. The test vehicle was my 24” Krieger barreled AR-15 with a 1:9” twist and naturally, a .223 Remington chamber.


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Shooting was conducted from my bench-rest set-up at a distance of 100 yards. A 10-shot control group using hand-loaded Sierra 55 grain BlitzKings had an extreme spread of 0.63”.



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The 10-shot group of the 53 grain Superfromance load had an extreme spread of 0.70”!


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Belmont31R
11-09-10, 18:46
Good to see since I have 5 boxes of that on order...:cool:

Molon
11-09-10, 19:07
Good to see since I have 5 boxes of that on order...:cool:

Have you fired the .223 75 grain Superformance load yet?

d90king
11-10-10, 06:29
Well glad to see I wasn't the only one with poor accuracy with the 75GR 5.56 SP load....



ETA: Well not glad with the poor accuracy but Id been accused of being a "flincher" per off site comms so in that regard Im glad Im not the only one, and several other people have reported poor accuracy, too.

I had similar issues with the .308 150gr SP also. Not sure if I had the old batch or if my FN simply didn't like it as much as the 175 GMM. I tried it in two rifles and got a little better results out of my 26" 700P but it was not as consistent as the GMM....

Belmont31R
11-10-10, 18:14
Have you fired the .223 75 grain Superformance load yet?




Yeah got some target pics loaded up in my thread. In the next few days Ill have a Noveske Afghan build done, and be able to get a 3rd barrel on my end. I need a better rest though. Shooting off a "bag" doesn't work too well. The range I shoot at is surrounded by flat land, and its always super windy out there. Today when I was shooting I was getting the wind moving the gun around on the rests....then it would go from cloudy/dark to bright sun and getting mirage. Anyways both the LT Stealth and Centurion Mk12 barrel don't like the 556 load. The 223 shot about average.

Molon
11-13-10, 23:30
Hornady 223 Remington 75 grain Superformance

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The new 223 Remington version of the 75 grain Superformance ammunition is loaded with the Hornady 75 grain BTHP bullet; the “T1”. This bullet does not have a cannelure, but a slight taper crimp at the case mouth produces a crease in the bullet jacket. Naturally, this load is charged with one of the new “highly progressive” Superformance powders.



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Hornady claims that this load obtains a velocity of 2930 fps when fired from a 24” SAAMI test barrel. I chronographed this load from an AR-15 that has a 24” stainless-steel match grade Krieger barrel with a 233 Remington chamber. A 10-shot string fired from the Krieger barrel produced a muzzle velocity of 2881 fps with a standard deviation of 14 fps.

An accuracy SnapShot of this load was obtained from my AR-15 with the 24” Krieger barrel that has a 5.56 Match chamber. This barrel was chosen as the test vehicle because it shoots the Hornady 75 grain BTHP bullet extremely well. Previous testing with factory loaded ammunition from both Hornady and Black Hills ammunition topped with the Hornady T1 bullet produced 10-shot groups from 100 yards in the 1 MOA spectrum. My match grade hand-loads using the T1 bullet fired from this barrel have approached half-MOA 10-shot groups from 100 yards.



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The Superfromance load was fired from the Krieger barreled AR-15 from my bench-rest set-up at 100 yards. The 10-shot group had an extreme spread of 1.878”.


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Molon
11-16-10, 16:32
The varminters will probably appreciate the "boost" that the 53 grain Superfromance load gives over the standard 55 grain V-MAX load.


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Molon
11-27-10, 14:47
The Superformance powder. The individual squares of the red grid measure 1/10th of an inch.


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