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500grains
11-05-10, 14:31
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad...e-speech-crimes.html

Obama's Department of [In]Justice and Sharia Prosecutes Infidels for "Hate" Speech Crimes

And so it begins. This is an outrage. An infidel was prosecuted by Obama's Department of Justice and sent to jail for a year for saying in an email that he would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” So what? A year in prison? A $3,000 fine?

We witnessed a traitorous Department of Justice refuse to prosecute the Black Panther party for voter harassment and intimidation with weapons on Election day. Senior DoJ lawyers resigned in protest.

"Obama has Violated His Oath of Office" in Racist Dept of Justice Decision to Drop New Black Panther Party Voter Intimidation Case and Mandate DOJ Policy: "No Voter Intimidation Cases Will Brought Against Black Defendent Where the Victim is White" (read it at Atlas Shrugs)

The Department of Justice sponsored a booth at the Muslim Brotherhood front ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) convention underwritten by, among others, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas-linked CAIR.

Obama's Department of Justice sued a New Jersey county, alleging that it refused to accommodate a Muslim employee's khimar, a religious head covering. The suit seeks monetary damages and also seeks to require Essex County to adopt a policy that accommodates the religious observances and practices of employees.

Further, Obama's Department of Justice dropped the "charges" against the Muslims who blew up the USS Cole.

Obama's Department of Justice is still trying to bring the 911 mastermind to New York City for a civilian trial. And these examples are just the tip of the iceberg. The prosecution of Sobolevskiy is by far the worst, and Judge David G. Bernthal, referring to the defendant’s crime as “an act of terror,” is in need of immediate removal. Nuts.

I do not advocate for violence or ugly email missives, but a year in jail for them? This is something altogether different. The Department of Justice is enforcing sharia and abandoning rule of law.

Washington - Maryland Man Sentenced To 1 Year For Sending Threatening Email to Illinois Mosque Vosizneias.com (hat tip Nik)

Washington - Ilya Sobolevskiy, a 25-year-old resident of Maryland, was sentenced today to serve 12 months in prison and to pay a $3,000 fine for violating the civil rights of members of an Urbana, Ill., mosque, announced the Justice Department.

During a guilty plea hearing in August 2010, Sobolevskiy admitted that he sent an email to a member of the Central Illinois Mosque and Islamic Center (CIMIC), in which he threatened, among other things, that he would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” Officials at CIMIC reported the threat to the FBI, which referred the case to the department’s Civil Rights Division.

“One of our most basic rights is the freedom to practice one’s faith in peace,” said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez of the Civil Rights Division.

I agree. Tell that to the Coptics, Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Christians, living under Islamic law.

Actually our most basic human right is free speech.

“We have no tolerance for threats of violence fueled by bigotry, and we will aggressively prosecute such actions.”

“It is a top priority of the FBI to protect the civil rights of the American people. We encourage members of the community to report all allegations of civil rights violations. The FBI will aggressively investigate these matters to ensure that our society remains free,” said Stuart R. McArthur, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Springfield Office.

CAIR must be laughing in jihadic glee.

Federal Magistrate Judge David G. Bernthal, referring to the defendant’s crime as “an act of terror,” gave the defendant the maximum sentence permitted by law.

This case was investigated by the Springfield, Ill., division of the FBI, and was prosecuted by department Trial Attorney Patricia Sumner.

So I guess I should turn over my hundreds of "hate" emails. Something tells me that those emailers won't be serving time any time soon.

Washington Post has it here.

UPDATE: The last name is Sobolevsky. The offense is "Obstruction Of The Free Exercise Of Religious Beliefs" (U.S.C Sec. 247(a)(2)). The case number is 2:10-cr-20062-DGB.

Not only was Sobolevsky sentenced to a year in prison, but also a year of supervised release.

Bolt_Overide
11-06-10, 02:36
so freedom of religion trumps freedom of speech now?

bkb0000
11-06-10, 02:49
hmm.. i'd like to read the email in its entirety..



“It is a top priority of the FBI to protect the civil rights of the American people. We encourage members of the community to report all allegations of civil rights violations. The FBI will aggressively investigate these matters to ensure that our society remains free,” said Stuart R. McArthur, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Springfield Office.

****! all these years, all we had to do was call the FBI about our 2A infringement problems??

GermanSynergy
11-06-10, 03:33
Only when it pertains to a "certain" religion...... Bashing Christians is still 100% ok by the mid stream media, AFAIK.



so freedom of religion trumps freedom of speech now?

stifled
11-06-10, 07:32
****! all these years, all we had to do was call the FBI about our 2A infringement problems??

Funny, they stopped returning my calls. :rolleyes:

ChicagoTex
11-06-10, 13:45
Bashing Christians is still 100% ok by the mid stream media, AFAIK.

Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

Get ****ing real.

kmrtnsn
11-06-10, 14:02
They culminated in an email sent May 4, 2008, demanding the mosque shut its doors:

"Close down the CIMIC [Central Illinois Mosque and Islamic Center] by May 12th, or it will be closed for you. the muslims that attend it are not to be seen in public with their beards or hijabs. tell them to get rid of such things. failure to comply will result in much tribulations for you and muslims in the region. i am not afraid to do whatever it takes to eradicate islam. WHATEVER it takes."

Mosque officials reported the email to the FBI, which investigated through its Springfield office.


http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/student_who_sent_threat_to_il_mosque_sentenced_to.php

Department of Justice Press Release

For Immediate Release
November 3, 2010 U.S. Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
(202) 514-2007/TDD (202) 514-1888
Maryland Man Sentenced for Sending Threatening E-Mail to Illinois Mosque

WASHINGTON—Ilya Sobolevskiy, a 25-year-old resident of Maryland, was sentenced today to serve 12 months in prison and to pay a $3,000 fine for violating the civil rights of members of an Urbana, Illinois mosque, announced the Justice Department.

During a guilty plea hearing in August 2010, Sobolevskiy admitted that he sent an e-mail to a member of the Central Illinois Mosque and Islamic Center (CIMIC), in which he threatened, among other things, that he would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” Officials at CIMIC reported the threat to the FBI, which referred the case to the department’s Civil Rights Division.

“One of our most basic rights is the freedom to practice one’s faith in peace,” said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez of the Civil Rights Division. “We have no tolerance for threats of violence fueled by bigotry, and we will aggressively prosecute such actions.”

“It is a top priority of the FBI to protect the civil rights of the American people. We encourage members of the community to report all allegations of civil rights violations. The FBI will aggressively investigate these matters to ensure that our society remains free,” said Stuart R. McArthur, special agent in charge of the FBI Springfield Office.

Federal Magistrate Judge David G. Bernthal, referring to the defendant’s crime as “an act of terror,” gave the defendant the maximum sentence permitted by law.

This case was investigated by the Springfield, Illinois Division of the FBI and was prosecuted by department Trial Attorney Patricia Sumner.

Press Releases | Springfield Home

http://springfield.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/si110310.htm

Belmont31R
11-06-10, 14:11
Yeah sending threats isn't protected speech, and its pretty dumb anyways. Easy to trace, does nothing, and gets you in hot water pretty quick.

Sry0fcr
11-06-10, 14:12
Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

Get ****ing real.


Hey now, lets not let facts and logic get in the way here.

GermanSynergy
11-06-10, 15:56
I'm well aware of what constitutes assault vs protected speech. Thanks for the explanation, though.

I was referring to the left wing media's constant attempts to whitewash/pander to anything remotely related to Islam, while having no issue smearing say... the Roman Catholic Church. That's all.

If the individuals in question did in fact issue threats, I've got no issues with them being prosecuted IAW the law.



Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

Get ****ing real.

SteyrAUG
11-06-10, 23:38
Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

Get ****ing real.

Muslims regularly threaten the lives of cartoonists without any kind of official visits.

Please get ****ing real.

ChicagoTex
11-07-10, 00:04
Muslims regularly threaten the lives of cartoonists without any kind of official visits.

Because those threats almost always come from overseas. It's not feasible (or reasonable) to expect the FBI to knock on the door of some nutjob from Hamas in southern Iran, who's location is neither certain nor static from one day to the next. Nevertheless, those threats ARE investigated (when the cartoonist/author/whoever brings it to the attention of law enforcement).

Domestic terrorism is always investigated - when law enforcement can, they'll pursue real threats, but jurisdictional limitations can be a bitch. In either case, the notion that Muslims somehow get preferential treatment in this regard is beyond the pale of preposterousness.

SteyrAUG
11-07-10, 11:10
Because those threats almost always come from overseas. It's not feasible (or reasonable) to expect the FBI to knock on the door of some nutjob from Hamas in southern Iran, who's location is neither certain nor static from one day to the next. Nevertheless, those threats ARE investigated (when the cartoonist/author/whoever brings it to the attention of law enforcement).

Domestic terrorism is always investigated - when law enforcement can, they'll pursue real threats, but jurisdictional limitations can be a bitch. In either case, the notion that Muslims somehow get preferential treatment in this regard is beyond the pale of preposterousness.


No it is not always investigated.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/muslim-group-says-it-is-warning-not-threatening-south-park-creators/

An Islamic group based in New York compared the “South Park” creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone to Theo Van Gogh, the Dutch filmmaker who was killed by an Islamic militant

All they do is simply claim the threat is actually a warning and get a pass. I guess the guy in the OP forgot to call his email a warning.

500grains
11-07-10, 15:32
I do not see the email as a threat. "I am going to do everything I can to eradicate Islam" could mean he is going to devote his life and financial resources to converting Muslims to some other religion. The FBI must be pursuing Oboingo's political agenda.

bkb0000
11-07-10, 15:47
I do not see the email as a threat. "I am going to do everything I can to eradicate Islam" could mean he is going to devote his life and financial resources to converting Muslims to some other religion. The FBI must be pursuing Oboingo's political agenda.

this is why i'd like to read the email in it's entirety before i pass judgement. if thats ALL he said, i can't see how that could be clear evidence of a "threat."

hell... i've said as much, and much worse, in an open public forum, with regard to islam. i make no bones about it: i hate muslims.

ChicagoTex
11-07-10, 16:56
No it is not always investigated.

I see nothing vaguely resembling proof (or even the claim) in this article that it wasn't. Nor do I see proof (or even the claim) that the artists contacted Law Enforcement about it even if it wasn't.

SteyrAUG
11-07-10, 18:26
I see nothing vaguely resembling proof (or even the claim) in this article that it wasn't. Nor do I see proof (or even the claim) that the artists contacted Law Enforcement about it even if it wasn't.


I don't see anything in the article saying those who issued the warnings got 10 years either. I think it is safe to say NOTHING happened.