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Has anyone heard of anything special for next year?
dennisuello
11-08-10, 22:18
Has anyone heard of anything special for next year?
Interested to know as well. I'm sure every 1911 manufacturer will have some sort of special edition. I don't own one, but will most likely buy one of the 100 anniversary edition.
Chris60119
11-08-10, 22:20
Interested to know as well. I'm sure every 1911 manufacturer will have some sort of special edition. I don't own one, but will most likely buy one of the 100 anniversary edition.
Never even thought of that..It should be something to be on the look out for.
I think an LT2011 might happen.
Colt will probably roll out a century edition...
I figure every custom shop has already figured out which added markings they're going to add to some of the limited edition models they'll roll out.
It would be silly to buy a new non-SE 1911 next year.
i1800collect
11-09-10, 00:26
Ed Brown announced their Centennial Edition 1911s last week.
http://edbrown.com/centennial.htm
Classic Custom - Centennial Edition: $6995 (I think this one is a 10-20 unit limited production.)
http://i.imgur.com/GTW2y.jpg
Executive Elite - Centennial Edition: $2495
http://imgur.com/B8uEJ.jpg
Kimber has also already announced their Centennial Edition 1911.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/centennial/
MSRP - $4,352 (250 unit limited production)
http://i.imgur.com/vwmeR.jpg
theJanitor
11-09-10, 10:49
Don't know exactly where this C&S project stands:
http://www.cylinder-slide.com/reproduction.shtml
http://www.cylinder-slide.com/1911repro/1911repro.jpg
Wow, a repro original. Those look fantastic, but if they stay strict adherence to the century old blueprints, then they probably won't be shooters as much as amazing conversational pieces... why do I still want one?
The Complete Book of the 1911 magazine has a run down of who is doing what as of print time. Good way to kill time in the book store or supermarket.
The Complete Book of the 1911 magazine has a run down of who is doing what as of print time. Good way to kill time in the book store or supermarket.
Yep, saw that in the grocery store several weeks back. Looks like Colt is wasting a golden opportunity.....
D. Christopher
11-11-10, 00:54
I'm certainly going to buy another 1911 next year but I haven't decided what it will be yet. I want something faithful to the original and it will be a shooter, but not carried. I don't want any extras or engraving or ugly rollmarks, so that rules out everything I've seen so far. I would like for it to be a Colt but I don't think they can pull it off anymore. I know where there are a couple of their 1911A1 reissues and I'll probably end up with one of those. That will be close enough for a fun gun.
It would be nice if Colt would get it together for one good run of 1911 again. Those are some good looking pics posted.
They'll need to have the internals to get those prices from me. The engraving on a standard pistol alone won't pry me off of $2,500.I'd like to see what Wilson will come up with. I have one of their's now that I like .
I've thought of doing a custom build for the 100th anniversary but I am curious to see what the manufacturers come up with.
This is what Colt should have done as the anniversary model:
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7014/1911gmc1031a.jpg
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6569/1911gmc1031b.jpg
But, I guess gingerbread and scrollwork is what appeals to the modern day "pistolero".... :laugh:
D. Christopher
11-16-10, 15:49
I have to agree with you peruna, that is the design that is about to celebrate its centennial and if Colt would build a faithful reissue of that model that was as beautiful as the pistol in your picture, I would buy at least one of them. Even if they could build it I'm sure they would ruin it with an ugly rollmark or unnecessary engraving.
I just don't get why Colt botched such an opportunity. If they made a correct replica of the original commercial model, it would have blown the others out of the water. No question....
D. Christopher
11-16-10, 19:24
Those pistols with the fire blue parts are among the most beautiful versions I have ever seen. I've always wanted a nice one like that.
"Fire blue?" Are you talking about the color case-hardening?
I recall reading that Novak was working with Colt on some kind of 2011 / 1911A2 model.
D. Christopher
11-18-10, 22:47
"Fire blue?" Are you talking about the color case-hardening?
Yes, and the resulting blue lustre on the trigger, slide lock, thumb safety, hammer, and screws on the pistol in peruna's pictures above. Unfortunately Colt couldn't do this today, even if they wanted to. That's a lost art as far as Colt is concerned.
variablebinary
11-18-10, 23:56
I will get a 1911 in 2011.
I'm going to wait and see what the special editions will be. There are sure to be plenty of awesome ones out there.
Hopefully Colt will deliver.
here are colt's offerings:
http://www.coltsmfg.com/upload/news/100yr%20Commerative%20Flyer.pdf
"Fire blue?" Are you talking about the color case-hardening?
It's not color case-hardening, it's what's known as nitre blue. It can still be done today, and I imagine it wouldn't cost much more (or any more, for that matter) than that gold-inlayed monstrosity Colt is peddling for nearly $2300, which should prove to be very popular with pimps next year.... :sarcastic:).
D. Christopher
11-19-10, 12:11
It can still be done today but Colt doesn't have the equipment or experienced craftsmen to do it. They could outsource the work but I don't think that will ever happen. It's not cost-effective for them. That kind of work and attention to detail only exists on the individual level these days. Very small companies and individual gunsmiths.
D. Christopher
11-19-10, 12:32
Thanks for the link Majette. That's what I'm looking for. I'm actually surprised Colt is making the ANVIII model, and I'll certainly order one of those as a fun gun to actually shoot. If it's a nice as I hope I'll probably buy another one to keep NIB. I'd much rather have one to shoot and one to keep than spend the same amount and just have that gaudy ANVII model. That's the one I expected Colt to make.
It can still be done today but Colt doesn't have the equipment or experienced craftsmen to do it. They could outsource the work but I don't think that will ever happen. It's not cost-effective for them. That kind of work and attention to detail only exists on the individual level these days. Very small companies and individual gunsmiths.
Actually, my information is that Colt outsourced the carbonia blue finish on the initial WWI replicas to be done by Ron's Gun Shop (R.G.S. Restorations, Inc.). RGS also does nitre bluing.
IMO, Colt could have done it had they desired to do so, but apparently Colt has no plans to offer what a large percentage of potential customers actually want.
D. Christopher
11-19-10, 14:02
I believe you are correct about RGS regarding the last reissues. At least that has been the rumor for a couple of years. I didn't mean they didn't outsource or haven't, we know they do for some parts. However I don't think it is very likely they will build a pistol with any fire blue parts again. Look at the current reissues, they have a lot more in common with the black army finish than any other finish used on the 1911 series of pistols. (Even though the early 1911 pistols didn't have that finish.) The so called black army finish was the least labor intensive finish they put on 1911 pistols. It resulted because they eliminated labor intensive steps in the preparations of the parts in order to speed up production in a time of need. The result was a finish that didn't hold up very well. Thousands of pistols with this finish that were never issued before the end of WWI went into storage having never been used, and thousands of those "new" pistols had to be sent to the arsenals to be rebuilt and refinished in phosphate before they could be issued for duty in WWII because of flaking and corrosion that occurred while in storage. The early 1911 pistols (both civilian and Govt.) with the fire blue parts were the most labor intensive finishes Colt ever used on these pistols and I don't think we will see this level of craftsmanship from Colt or any company their size ever again. I hope I'm wrong.
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