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500grains
11-22-10, 23:16
Is the Left in general serious about the various calls to violence that they have made?

Or is it just a bunch of rabid but empty venting?

Note: The current admin. does not seem to support this, but certainly takes no action against it either.

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One source:


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/the_threat_of_leftist_violence.html

Where conservatives can envision resistance to only a government that has destroyed the Constitution, progressives now advocate armed rebellion against a government that won't destroy the Constitution.

Global leftist protest is beginning to coalesce around a single theme of a coming civil war. Following the results of the midterm elections, the leftist blogosphere in America is buzzing with rant after rant about the need for armed conflict to stop "casino capitalists" and wrest control of the government from "retrograde politicians." "The Coming Insurrection," published in August of 2009 as the blueprint for revolution in Western Europe (rising as high as seventy-first on Amazon.com in the U.S.), declares itself to be "a strategic prescription for an emergent war-machine to "spread anarchy and live communism."


Another source:



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/podesta-obama-can-use-armed-forces-to-push-progressive-agenda/


Podesta: Obama Can Use ‘Armed Forces’ to Push Progressive Agenda

The liberal Center for American Progress doesn’t believe significant GOP gains in the House and Senate should stop the president from implementing more of his polices. The group released a report Tuesday suggesting ways Obama can bypass Congress to accomplish a progressive agenda, and it cites the president’s power as commander-in-chief to make its point.

“I think most of the conversation since the election has been about how President Obama adjusts to the new situation on Capitol Hill,” Center for American Progress head and former Bill Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta told the Daily Caller. “While that’s an important conversation, it simply ignores the president’s ability to use all levels of his power and authority to move the country forward.”

How does one “move the country forward”? In the center’s report, Podesta explains that Obama can use executive orders, rulemaking, and even the armed forces “to accomplish important change” and that such means “should not be underestimated.”

SteyrAUG
11-22-10, 23:35
One can only hope.

:laugh:

skyugo
11-22-10, 23:39
socialist revolution man. che guevero.

we're gonna take the rich capitalist pigs stuff and give it to a small elitist all powerful government. power to the people!

Bolt_Overide
11-22-10, 23:51
WTF are they gonna do, theyre all too afraid of guns to own one, and in the most liberal states they cant own one anyway.

Rider79
11-23-10, 00:56
WTF are they gonna do, theyre all too afraid of guns to own one, and in the most liberal states they cant own one anyway.

My thoughts exactly. They'll stop tossing bricks when we start putting rounds in them. Good luck with your unarmed revolution.

Belmont31R
11-23-10, 01:26
WTF are they gonna do, theyre all too afraid of guns to own one, and in the most liberal states they cant own one anyway.



Don't be so foolish. There are lots of lefty radicals who own guns.



We have people on this site who have a positive opinion of communism in one form or another.

M4Fundi
11-23-10, 01:35
socialist revolution man. che guevero.

we're gonna take the rich capitalist pigs stuff and give it to a small elitist all powerful government. power to the people!

I watched it happen in RSA & Zim.

When I was in RSA we had a maid that was standing out in front of the house staring at. My employer's wife went out side to ask her what she was doing. She said that the ANC had come by and told her if she joined in the struggle after the revolution she would be given her employers house. She was deciding on the changes she would make to it one day:rolleyes: This was a common ANC tactic and it worked. The maid was fired;) But the leaders in both countries are still "redistributing the wealth" and their economies are going down the shitter parallel to the redistribution. It can happen

variablebinary
11-23-10, 03:15
I know a female about to get her butter bar, with a TS and in the MI that is as liberal as they come.

She thinks violence against America is just because America has done so many "messed up things" to other people.

Thats's no bullshit either. Mind you, she will be an officer very soon, probably in Afghanistan with a platoon of Iowa farm boys that look to her for leadership.

The liberal insurrection wont just be on the street. Marxist sympathizers are in every branch of the military and the government, so we wont just be facing Castro district muscle queens with KY grenades.

Magic_Salad0892
11-23-10, 03:21
Um... did that article just say Obama didn't oppose the idea of using the military against us to further his agenda?

Impeach this man yesterday.

Rider79
11-23-10, 03:37
I know a female about to get her butter bar, with a TS and in the MI that is as liberal as they come.

Okay, not military so what does this mean? Butter bar is 1st Lt.? MI is military intelligence?

R1pper
11-23-10, 07:12
Don't be so foolish. There are lots of lefty radicals who own guns.



And they don't openly talk about them as openly as we do either!

The_War_Wagon
11-23-10, 07:48
Is the Left in general serious about the various calls to violence that they have made?

They can TRY... http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/violent/sterb200.gif

Alex V
11-23-10, 08:14
I say bring it on bitches!

Being in NJ I imagine being pretty close to the front line.. lol

Who does Obama think he is, Vladimir Ulyanov? hahaha

mr_smiles
11-23-10, 08:30
This isn't Pres Obama saying this, so let's not try to make it out as if he's calling for an armed socialist uprising. ;)

How much crazy shit has Pat Robertson said? And he speaks for a number of organizations, it's just hot air.

montanadave
11-23-10, 08:32
Why are folks getting there panties in a knot?

Didn't we just have a Republican Tea Party senatorial candidate spouting populist rhetoric about "second amendment remedies" if conservatives were unable to wrestle control of Congress away from the Democrats?

Pot, meet kettle.

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 08:36
Why are folks getting there panties in a knot?

I dunno, maybe the history of the left using violence even within my lifetime?


Didn't we just have a Republican Tea Party senatorial candidate spouting populist rhetoric about "second amendment remedies" if conservatives were unable to wrestle control of Congress away from the Democrats?

Who was that exactly and to what office was he elected? Source? Even still the left is calling for violence to subvert the Constitution while the 2A was a clear justification of force in support of the Constitution.


Pot, meet kettle.

Horsepuckey.

montanadave
11-23-10, 09:19
I dunno, maybe the history of the left using violence even within my lifetime?

Yeah, like McVeigh and the Murrah Federal Building in OKC? Always those "leftists" blowing shit up, right?


Who was that exactly and to what office was he elected? Source? Even still the left is calling for violence to subvert the Constitution while the 2A was a clear justification of force in support of the Constitution.

That's a she, not a he. And I said candidate. (http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-las-vegas/sharron-angle-second-amendment-remedies). And the rest is just juggling semantics to justify the means to an end.


Horsepuckey.

To wit, bullshit.

500grains
11-23-10, 09:45
montanadave mischaracterizes the candidate's words, but let me contrast words with actions of some charismatic fellow's close friends:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sHBfjVGSFJA/SADANnVvoeI/AAAAAAAACwY/iGFECAnafTM/s200/dorn.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_sHBfjVGSFJA/SADANXVvodI/AAAAAAAACwQ/d_qEppj6InY/s200/bill_ayers.jpg

A friend of mine actually knows these 2 characters from many years ago and says that Ayers is the calculating, scheming, planning weasel, but Dorn is just a straight up radical who would slit your throat in a second if it suited her purpose.

Rmplstlskn
11-23-10, 09:57
Leftist rants aside... As without GOV'T and .MIL behind them, it would soon fizzle out... There is a whole lot of RED on the map with BLUE on the fringes.

But that is what I believe Obama, Dorn, Ayers, and all the other radical Commies want... an EVENT that allows them to use the might and power of LE, .GOV and .MIL against the RIGHT...

This is one area Glenn Beck is right on (and I have much to criticize him on)... Don't fall into their trap... The next two years are indeed the most dangerous DOMESTICALLY in my lifetime.

Rmpl

GlockWRX
11-23-10, 10:00
Yeah, like McVeigh and the Murrah Federal Building in OKC? Always those "leftists" blowing shit up, right?



The difference is that McVeigh was tried and executed for his crimes, not made into a folk hero or martyr.

The left puts it's violent radicals on a pedestal, while the right vilifies theirs.

Spiffums
11-23-10, 10:01
Maybe it was like this in the civil rights era and we missed it because we weren't in the know....... Same back in 1770s....... There is always someone calling to kill or fight someone or blow something up (is usually the Fed at the meeting :eek:)


Till you see a group wearing Barry O shirts and Che shirts walking down the streets of a major city shooting everyone who doesn't join them.... don't worry about it.

FromMyColdDeadHand
11-23-10, 10:03
Yeah, like McVeigh and the Murrah Federal Building in OKC? Always those "leftists" blowing shit up, right?



That's a she, not a he. And I said candidate. (http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-las-vegas/sharron-angle-second-amendment-remedies). And the rest is just juggling semantics to justify the means to an end.



To wit, bullshit.

Did you go to a public school? That is an opinion piece you linked to, not a news story. Let's just assume that the quotes are correct, contextually relevant- a big if. She says:


“You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact, Thomas Jefferson said it’s good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years.”

Historical fact, what you gonna do about that?




“I hope that’s not where we’re going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, ‘my goodness what can we do to turn this country around?’ I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”

Radicals that say 'my goodness' sound like real killers to me ;) .



“it’s almost an imperative” that conservatives win. “The nation is arming,” she said. “What are they arming for if it isn’t that they are so distrustful of their government? They’re afraid they’ll have to fight for their liberty in more Second Amendment kinds of ways. That’s why I look at this as almost an imperative. If we don’t win at the ballot box, what will be the next step?”

Taxation with out representation was a major rallying cry. They had insurrection over tea taxes. About the only thing they don't tax now is tea.

montanadave
11-23-10, 11:25
I'm not interested in getting into a tit-for-tat exchange. Suffice it to say that both the right and the left have their fair share of nut jobs and, while most of the aforementioned nut jobs do nothing but spout shit, every once in a while somebody goes off the reservation and does something incredibly stupid.

My beef is with a small minority of members who seem zealously dedicated to scouring the internet to find incendiary items to post to the General Discussion forum. It seems the sole purpose of these posts is to foment anger against those who do not march lockstep with their own narrow and myopic political viewpoint.

I know. I don't have to read it. But it's like a car accident-- it's hard not to look. But it still makes my ass tired.

Enjoy the echo chamber. I'm moving on.

CarlosDJackal
11-23-10, 11:35
I say bring it on bitches!

+1,000,000,000. If they are stupid enough to actually try this then it'll be nothing more than a national enema. It's just another means to flush the system of any unwanted crap.

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 11:37
Yeah, like McVeigh and the Murrah Federal Building in OKC? Always those "leftists" blowing shit up, right?

Who went to prison and who was executed under President Bush. The use of violence to incite a civil war is a crime and he paid for it. Advocating the use of violence by the President using his power as CiC to subvert the Constitution is what's at issue. Don't conflate the two. How about the Weather Underground, a former member of which is in Obama's inner circle? How about the SLA? How about Baader Meinhoff/Red Army Faction? How about the Black Panthers?


That's a she, not a he. And I said candidate. (http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-las-vegas/sharron-angle-second-amendment-remedies). And the rest is just juggling semantics to justify the means to an end.

To wit, bullshit.

So one candidate who didn't get elected, who argued that the 2a exists to preserve the Constitution is the equivalent of those arguing for Obama using the military to subvert the Constitution? Further I don't recall Angle ever endorsing McVeigh's actions or arguing that similar actions need to be taken.

Bullshit is right. Smell what you're shoveling.

Belmont31R
11-23-10, 11:59
I'm not interested in getting into a tit-for-tat exchange. Suffice it to say that both the right and the left have their fair share of nut jobs and, while most of the aforementioned nut jobs do nothing but spout shit, every once in a while somebody goes off the reservation and does something incredibly stupid.

My beef is with a small minority of members who seem zealously dedicated to scouring the internet to find incendiary items to post to the General Discussion forum. It seems the sole purpose of these posts is to foment anger against those who do not march lockstep with their own narrow and myopic political viewpoint.

I know. I don't have to read it. But it's like a car accident-- it's hard not to look. But it still makes my ass tired.

Enjoy the echo chamber. I'm moving on.




So you going to start complaining until any articles on liberals can't be posted here? You already whined and complained until Obama threads got taken away.


If you don't like what is posted don't read it. You've made your point you don't like such articles numerous times. Quit bitching because no one is forcing you to read a damn thing.


Figures a lefty would come on here bitching what gets posted doesn't personally suit them.


"Im out here"...good...don't let the door hit you on ass on the way out.

Mo_Zam_Beek
11-23-10, 13:14
I know a female about to get her butter bar, with a TS and in the MI that is as liberal as they come.

She thinks violence against America is just because America has done so many "messed up things" to other people.


Understand what your concerned about but by the same token - she isn't completely wrong either.

Conceptual question - If current fiscal policies (QE and ****ing other nations out of money we owe them) directly or indirectly leads to conflict - should a patriot go fight against that foreign nation or those that got us into the mess?

Big picture - we are being goaded into an opportunistic situation for those (on both sides) seeking control. Watch your step.



Good luck

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 14:56
Understand what your concerned about but by the same token - she isn't completely wrong either.

The problem with that is that you could go back in time ad inifinitum (or ad nauseum depending on your patience level) for wrongs to be redressed.

Maybe my memory is flawed but I recall the US going to war 4 times in the 1990s to protect Muslim lives/property (Kuwait, Somalia, Bosnia and Kosovo).

All nations act in their perceived interests. You don't get to chose which causes you support or don't support. If you're given a lawful order you have a duty to obey. If you're given an unlawful order you have a duty to disobey. This is why the female in question swore an oath to protect the Constitution, not loyalty to a person.

I knew a ton of conservatives in the military who hated Bill Clinton, I didn't meet a single one that thought deposing Bill Clinton in a coup would be constitutionally appropriate. In fact I can't think of a single individual that wasn't horrified when Jesse Helms made that comment.

rickrock305
11-23-10, 16:45
probably about as serious as the right...

from a Palin campaign speech...


"Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers...And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.

"Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.
Palin went on to say that "Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers's living room, and they've worked together on various projects in Chicago." Here, Palin began to connect the dots. "These are the same guys who think that patriotism is paying higher taxes -- remember that's what Joe Biden had said. "And" -- she paused and sighed -- "I am just so fearful that this is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America, as the greatest force for good in the world. I'm afraid this is someone who sees America as 'imperfect enough' to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country."



Melanie Morgan said this about Nancy Pelosi. "We've got a bulls-eye painted on her big laughing eyes."


On November 12, Reuters reported that Chad Castagana had been arrested in California for "mailing threatening letters containing a suspicious white powder to celebrities and U.S. politicians," including House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA), Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), talk show host David Letterman, Comedy Central's Daily Show host Jon Stewart, and MSNBC's Countdown host Keith Olbermann.



Oh, and lets not forget the Texas suicide pilot.

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 17:04
probably about as serious as the right...

from a Palin campaign speech...

So? Bill Ayers is a traitorous scumbag, a known terrorist who is a longtime supporter of Obama, one he has refused to repudiate, who advocated and acted violently against the United States.


Melanie Morgan said this about Nancy Pelosi. "We've got a bulls-eye painted on her big laughing eyes."

Was she speaking literally or figuratively? Clearly she was speaking figuratively. The same cannot be said about the OP's quotes.



On November 12, Reuters reported that Chad Castagana had been arrested in California for "mailing threatening letters containing a suspicious white powder to celebrities and U.S. politicians," including House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA), Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), talk show host David Letterman, Comedy Central's Daily Show host Jon Stewart, and MSNBC's Countdown host Keith Olbermann.

Oh, and lets not forget the Texas suicide pilot.

Who in the GOP endorsed or supported these actions?

Who in the GOP has advocated using the armed forces against the population?

When did the right wing media suggest doing either of these things?

Rather than acting as an apologist for the left, how about you at least pretend to be as outraged as the rest of us?

Mo_Zam_Beek
11-23-10, 17:17
The problem with that is that you could go back in time ad inifinitum (or ad nauseum depending on your patience level) for wrongs to be redressed.

Sure - you can look at it that way, however it leads to future failures and continued transgressions against others. 'THE' problem is interests other than the will of the people involved in the decision making process on the part of the US Government. Most particularly in the case of foreign policy and to a very high degree, fiscal policy - this expressly means corporations.

Again - I get the concern that she is an Officer in the US MIL - but she is still correct on some levels.


All nations act in their perceived interests.

But THIS Nation is supposed to act according to interest's of our Citizens.



(As a member of US MIL) You don't get to chose which causes you support or don't support. If you're given a lawful order you have a duty to obey. If you're given an unlawful order you have a duty to disobey. This is why the female in question swore an oath to protect the Constitution, not loyalty to a person.

Agree that is what it says in print. The line will get blurred - law can be manipulated, in fact the law can be whatever 'they' say it is even if only for a short period of time. May it never come to it - but I for one won't expect much out of the 'Oath Keeper' movement when it does.


Good luck

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 17:23
Sure - you can look at it that way, however it leads to future failures and continued transgressions against others. 'THE' problem is interests other than the will of the people involved in the decision making process on the part of the US Government. Most particularly in the case of foreign policy and to a very high degree, fiscal policy - this expressly means corporations.

Again - I get the concern that she is an Officer in the US MIL - but she is still correct on some levels....



But THIS Nation is supposed to act according to interest's of our Citizens.

That's a distinction without a difference. While she might be correct on some levels it applies equally to other nations in their dealings with the US.

Heavy Metal
11-23-10, 17:23
probably about as serious as the right...

from a Palin campaign speech...





Melanie Morgan said this about Nancy Pelosi. "We've got a bulls-eye painted on her big laughing eyes."


On November 12, Reuters reported that Chad Castagana had been arrested in California for "mailing threatening letters containing a suspicious white powder to celebrities and U.S. politicians," including House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA), Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), talk show host David Letterman, Comedy Central's Daily Show host Jon Stewart, and MSNBC's Countdown host Keith Olbermann.



Oh, and lets not forget the Texas suicide pilot.

So you are telling us it offended your leftist sensibilities that someone shouted 'kill him' regarding Bill Ayers? You are seriously offended someone wished death upon Ayers?

The fact that a monster like Ayers lives outside of a small cell much less now profits from the system is testament to a great failing.

Belmont31R
11-23-10, 17:30
So you are telling us it offended your leftist sensibilities that someone shouted 'kill him' regarding Bill Ayers? You are seriously offended someone wished death upon Ayers?

The fact that a monster like Ayers lives outside of a small cell much less now profits from the system is testament to a great failing.




Ayers deserved the death penalty but got out on a technicality.


While obviously not as near of extreme a case it would be like if McVeigh got out on a technicality, and someone shouted out "kill him". I doubt anyone with two brain cells to rub together would have an issue with it.


Ayers was a terrorist. Wishing death upon him is not "right wing violence". Its justice for the acts he committed, which, had the justice system not failed us, he very well could have gotten death anyways.

Mo_Zam_Beek
11-23-10, 17:32
That's a distinction without a difference. While she might be correct on some levels it applies equally to other nations in their dealings with the US.

I think we're talking past each other.


Good luck

Mo_Zam_Beek
11-23-10, 17:36
Also just so we are talking apples to apples

I think most would say that Bill Ayers is of sound mind.

Chad Castagna isn't.


From 2008:

FEBRUARY 14--The California man convicted of sending threatening letters containing a white powder to public figures like David Letterman and Jon Stewart has been sentenced to probation and ordered to check into a halfway house, where he will be required to take medications recommended by doctors. Chad Castagana, 40, will remain in the Gateways Community Corrections Center for as long as staff at the Los Angeles facility deem appropriate, though his stay there cannot exceed his five-year probationary term, according to the below U.S. District Court order. Castagana was also ordered not to contact any of the six recipients of his mailed threats. Castagana, who has described himself as a "compulsive" Republican voter, was convicted at trial last year of mailing threatening letters in 2006 to celebrities and politicians he considered too liberal (other recipients were Rep. Nancy Pelosi, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann, and Viacom boss Sumner Redstone). The powder in the Castagana letters--some of which you'll find here--was either baking soda or detergents, which apparently was meant to mimic anthrax. Castagana was sentenced after his examination by a court-appointed psychiatrist, Dr. Saul Faerstein, whose report was not included in public court records.

FromMyColdDeadHand
11-23-10, 17:36
When was the last right wing riot in the US? Every time there is a G20 of some other meeting the left goes nuts and tears apart some metropolitan down town.

When the Tea Party has a rally, the area is cleaner after than it was before.

You can whip that Clintonista "Vast right wing conspiracy" and right wing militia threat all you want. The only people that use organized violence in the US is the left.

And McVeigh- he spent a lot of time talking about the atrocities against the Iraqis and there are all those odd ties to middle eastern operatives. Kind of odd for a right wing terrorist.

I remember an essay on violence and the author put in context a sign at the Paris zoo by the bear cage. "This is a very dangerous animal. It will defend itself vigorously when attacked."

Don't **** with the bear.

Lot's of things aren't dangerous till you start to poke at them.

Of course the local communist party is not going to take up arms and red bananas and attack the suburbs. Why do you think the lefties are on a multi generational program to define patriotism and American values as deviancy and put their twisted relativistic values system in place so that individual liberties are not just disdained, they are illegal. No, the commies won't rush the streets, they use the corrupted laws, lawyers and judges to make the government organs into a cancer in our republic.

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 17:42
I think we're talking past each other.

Good luck

Not really, you're lamenting that governments are indeed made of human beings and so frequently make mistakes. Coupled with decisions being made on short-term, rather than long-term interests the results can be less than ideal. This is as true for the US as the rest of the world and so there is no good solution.

People get the government they deserve. In the Western world they usually elect representatives to make decisions on their behalf. If they don't like the decisions that get made, they elect someone else. This however applies more to the Western world.

If the officer in question expects the US to act against its own interests (and the interests of its electorate) than she is setting herself up for disappointment.

Mo_Zam_Beek
11-23-10, 18:20
Now I see we are not only talking past each other, we probably see the world differently too.




Good luck

Gutshot John
11-23-10, 18:24
Now I see we are not only talking past each other, we probably see the world differently too.

Good luck

Gotcha, in that case I'd suggest you take the world as it is rather than how you wish it to be.

Good Luck!

variablebinary
11-23-10, 19:36
Understand what your concerned about but by the same token - she isn't completely wrong either.




Is this a joke, or did you not take your meds.

Officers who think America getting attacked is justified are traitors, and certainly should not have a TS, or a leadership position over men who get shot at while defending against attacks.

What unit are you in? You'd salute a PL or Commander that likes when America "gets what it deserved"

GermanSynergy
11-23-10, 19:59
So an officer with questionable loyalty to America is no big deal to you? Are you for real?

We have men and women who are, at this very moment in time, serving in harms way, and the last thing we need (especially at the officer level) is someone with sympathies for the enemy.




Understand what your concerned about but by the same token - she isn't completely wrong either.

armakraut
11-23-10, 22:55
They are completely serious.

They are also completely untrained, half-baked dilettantes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

Like this, same outcome, only worse, possibly way worse for both sides. My main worry is that the government will skip Weinmar and go straight to National Socialism, which isn't much better than Communism.

rickrock305
11-24-10, 12:47
Who in the GOP has advocated using the armed forces against the population?

Not only have they advocated it, they've DONE IT.

Kent State?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164328,00.html

George W. Bush pushed Congress into revising the laws so that troops could be used on US soil. Under the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies."


The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

This was subsequently repealed.


George H.W. Bush deployed 4000 Army and Marines to quell the LA riots in '92



Rather than acting as an apologist for the left, how about you at least pretend to be as outraged as the rest of us?


Outraged at empty rhetoric? No thanks.

rickrock305
11-24-10, 12:48
So you are telling us it offended your leftist sensibilities that someone shouted 'kill him' regarding Bill Ayers? You are seriously offended someone wished death upon Ayers?



Nope, I'm not offended in the least bit.