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Belmont31R
11-30-10, 00:21
Maybe this will be of help to some. Maybe not.
SR15 Geissele Super Dynamic 3Gun (single stage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8YnlE3ZdDA
KAC EMC Geissele Super Dynamic Combat (2 stage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EA5B5FGkhw
LMT Lower with Geissele SSA (2 stage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEqnplQT3fQ
LMT Lower with Geissele DMR (2 stage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6dcx-HzpWU
Colt Lower with Colt USGI Trigger (single stage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_YQOu5XZYk
You notice the Colt with USGI is very notchy/gritty, and using the same feel as the Geissele it took quite a bit to get it to drop. By far the worst of the bunch.
Oh and don't worry about the SN's. The ATF already has them good and dandy....:rolleyes:
The question is, how well do you run each of them back to back or head to head? I have a few video's where I run a stock Colt triggers and some with another rifle and my SSA trigger. I even have an interesting video where I run them head to head and I can run my Colt trigger with faster splits and same accuracy up close. :)
Thanks for vids Belmont! Much appreciated and very helpful :)
It would be even more awesome if you could do a charging handle rack so we could see the reset
Great little videos.....that usgi trigger sucks big time in comparison to the GA triggers.
Seeing how you have your DMR setup makes me think your really gonna love the SD-E.
A couple of questions. This is just based on observation. The DMR and SSA trigers look to be very similar in take up(1st stage) and breaking (2nd stage). Is there much of a difference between the 2 other than pull weights? The SD-C looks to be a lot cleaner and crisper than the SSA. Less travel/takeup on the 1st stage and candy cane type snap on the 2nd stage. Is that so?
Belmont31R
11-30-10, 12:05
The combat and SSA are closest in feel but the combat is a bit crisper at the break.
The DMR has the least movement during the 1st stage, and breaks crisply.
Obviously the 3 gun has very little movement of the trigger before it breaks.
Ill work on some videos with the reset later today. Need to setup a tripod and such since I cant film and do it one handed. Ill throw an LMT usgi trigger in there too. Its a lot better in feel than the Colt.
RE the split times. Some people are faster with the SSA and some are faster with the USGI triggers. I think it mainly depends on what you prefer and what you're used to. I think the 3 gun would be a very fast trigger since theres so little movement.
Belmont31R
11-30-10, 21:20
Heres some vids with reset. Sorry about the background noise but its a zoo in my house when the wife and kids are still up.
SR15 Geissele SD 3 Gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJRkkgh0BEM
KAC EMC Geissele SD-Combat:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I75e9s3y3Q
LMT Geissele DMR:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYsYwn_8RsY
LMT Geissele SSA:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5i44wchG3g
Colt USGI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FQo_kjhwU
Nice videos...I bet your family is wondering what the hell Daddy is doing:D
Even though different triggers serve different applications, do you have a favorite unit from the above triggers?
You keeping that usgi around for sentimental reasons:D
Those videos are even better! I'll be trying out the SD 3 Gun. Thanks again Belmont! You are da MAN :)
Belmont31R
11-30-10, 21:56
Nice videos...I bet your family is wondering what the hell Daddy is doing:D
Even though different triggers serve different applications, do you have a favorite unit from the above triggers?
You keeping that usgi around for sentimental reasons:D
I don't know man...thats like asking blondes or brunettes. The two triggers that set themselves apart from the rest are the DMR and 3G. The DMR has a unique 2 stage feel since it has less take up and is so crisp. The 3 gun is crazy quick. The SSA and Combat feel pretty close to each other. Very slight difference but I guess the biggest change is the trigger shape.
That Colt is a large pin, and I don't shoot it enough anymore to want to spend 200 bucks on another trigger. Besides I can dry fire it, and remind myself how crappy it feels.
Those videos are even better! I'll be trying out the SD 3 Gun. Thanks again Belmont! You are da MAN :)
No problem. Hopefully it makes choosing a trigger a little easier. I know its not a replacement for actual trigger time but it can kinda illustrate the differences. You can clearly see how much quicker the 3 gun is to break than the others. The distinct difference between the 2 stages and USGI trigger, ect.
Belmont really telling videos... thanks!
By the way the family really sounds beautiful! Congrats:)
Belmont31R
12-01-10, 00:48
Belmont really telling videos... thanks!
By the way the family really sounds beautiful! Congrats:)
Haha its like herding cats.
Got a longer video uploading now with some quicker resets with various triggers all in a row.
Belmont31R
12-01-10, 01:13
Here you guys go. Not seen before is the one with the Colt selector. Its a LMT USGI type trigger just like the Colt except its about 2LBs lighter and a bit smoother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2PYhsMXZxA
Belmont31R
It seems the DMR has less take up than the SSA. Would you use the DMR in a shtf gun? Or stick with an SSA?
Is there any difference between the S3G and the SD3G besides the trigger shape? Do you think they are suitable on an all around gun that might be used for SD, or too light?
Belmont31R
12-01-10, 12:40
Belmont31R
It seems the DMR has less take up than the SSA. Would you use the DMR in a shtf gun? Or stick with an SSA?
I think the SSA would be a better choice. The DMR is gear more towards competition shooting and precision rigs like the MK12 than a carbine for self defense. Not that it wouldn't work since they are plenty reliable just the weight is a bit low for that role.
Belmont31R
12-01-10, 12:42
Is there any difference between the S3G and the SD3G besides the trigger shape? Do you think they are suitable on an all around gun that might be used for SD, or too light?
If you like a single stage it would be a good choice but I would personally see if Geissele had a spring that adds about a pound.
AFAIK they are the same sans the shoe shape.
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