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There's an old thread in the "tactical gear" section regarding inexpensive watches, but I'm curious to hear if anyone is into "nicer" watches. Omega, Rolex, Breitling, etc. I've always wanted a nice watch, but I haven't worn a watch at all in years.
Erick Gelhaus
08-09-07, 15:17
Yup. Just a wee bit into watches.
Rob,
I've always been into watches. Recently, when I celebrated a landmark birthday, I told myself "I deserved to get a Rolex". Long story short. Bought it, felt guilty for paying so much for a watch. Decided I liked firearms more, sold it, bought a couple of guns and put the rest back in the bank. Feel much better now!
I do plan on purchasing a more moderatly priced watch (under $1000.) sometime. This gun thing always has a way of sucking up any extra money though.
Mark
I'm thinking that for me the $1k price point would be about good enough to make me feel like I had something nice, but didn't get stupid shelling out for it.
I've worn a Rolex Submariner for years and love it. It's been everywhere from 150 ft under water to the top of Kilimanjaro.
I by no means baby the watch and it looks pretty much new.
Worth every nickel.
In the more reasonable price range of the "nicer" watch spectrum, take a look at Oris. You can get a really nice movement at a decent price. I have an F1 Chrono and it's one of my favorites. They use swiss automatic movements from ETA, finished in house by Oris. Not sure what exactly they do to the stock movement besides the red rotor and some polishing, but it looks pretty enough through the case window.
Watches are a funny thing... you have the super accurate, cheap, durable quartz movements that get the job done better than almost any automatic, but yet they just don't have the "personality" of a mechanical watch. Sort of a Glock/1911 thing ;) :D
I'm thinking that for me the $1k price point would be about good enough to make me feel like I had something nice, but didn't get stupid shelling out for it.
Alot of decent good watches out there for a grand, but not a real Rolex. Seiko makes a nice watch in many styles that will be good for what you like to do. You can get a good Seiko Diving watch for around 250.00 or so. I will be heading to Japan again later this year if your still interested i can pick you one up for a song.
the1911fan
08-09-07, 17:32
How about the 5.11 H.R.T Tactical Sniper Watch
LOL;)
Rob, if you want a Swiss movement and rugged watch in the 1k and change range, take a look at Doxa. Their customer service is excellent and the most responsive I've seen in any industry.
http://www.doxawatches.com/ad_home.htm
Hell, they even have a yellow one in their collection!
http://www.doxawatches.com/sub750_GMT.htm
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w295/mdl729_photos/IMG_0474.jpg
Don Robison
08-09-07, 17:53
I like watches, but the high end for me is a Suunto, my favorite is my Luminox. It keeps perfect time after 10 years and has been used and abused. I always seem to go back to wearing it after a few weeks or months with another watch. When it goes tits up I'll get another. It doesn't double as a heart rate monitor, astrological star alignment tool or fetch coffee for me, but it tells time very well and is low tech for a caveman like me.
Edit: I had a Citizen that the wife got me for Christmas, but it went back the day after New Years. I couldn't figure out how to set the time and didn't have the patience to read the 1100 page owner's manual:o I figured seven days was too long for me to mess with something like changing the time.
I have a couple, IWC MKXV, Sinn EZM1, Sinn 856S, and a MKII seiko automatic. I want a Speedmaster racing Chrono.
Linea_de_Fuego
08-09-07, 19:19
My personal choice.http://s7ondemand4.scene7.com/is/image/Signet/3475913?$detail475$
http://www.hunt101.com/img/510431.jpg
My 15 y.o GMT Master and a 2 y.o. Seamaster.
Omega
Panerai pre-Vendome Radiomir
Snn 142 (Lemania 5100) black PVD
Erick Gelhaus
08-09-07, 22:49
Nice Sinn ... was all set to buy one, but I ended up getting something else.
*****
Rob-
For the dollar amount you mentioned, I'd recommend a Seiko dive watch. One of them was my first beyond a Timex watch in the late 80s. That watch lasted me several years, several bezels & crystals, etc.
Next up from that, I'd look at the entry level Omegas - not the Bond versions (Ack-Phft!). IME: nice, stout, reliable, work & dress watch.
Victornoix is starting to make in-roads into the higher end watch market but I have not yet seen a work/dress watch similar to the Omegas from them. Their dress watch is quite nice.
Erick
I wear an Omega Seamaster with an automatic movement similar to those posted by Sam and Linea de Fuego. It might be a pre-Bond, since I think that it was assembled into a complete watch before the movie. (no Ack-Phft!) :)
It seems natural that folks intersted in the mechanical and/or aesthetic aspects of firearms would also be interested in other mechanical devices (financial considerations, notwithstanding).
Several years ago, Keith Brown, who is a firearms dealer and posts on 1911forum, told me that his brother owns a clock shop. Les Baer built and raced dragsters for decades. Rob is into cars, IIRC. When Tony Kanaly posted a photo of a pistol, it was often accompanied by a Rolex.
Or maybe it is idiosyncratic to 1911 owners.
Sam, BTW, one or both of your watches might not be keeping time!
Sinn, that was the brand I was trying to remember. I love their watches.
I especially love the simplicity of the ones like these
http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/catalog/sinn656bracelet_952_general.jpg
http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/catalog/sinn8828tiklassik_1749_general.jpg
Sam, BTW, one or both of your watches might not be keeping time!
The Omega is my now everyday watch, so its time is correct. I haven't worn the GMT in a couple of months so it was wound down. I had to fire it up again quickly for the photo, I didn't bother to really trying to sinc the time. :)
I wear a Omega Seamaster.
C4
I like Casio Pro-Trek, I'd love to wear a Rolex, Omega, and the like. But I'd rather spend on guns:D
the Military Watch Resource: http://broadarrow.net/
I think the Marathon SAR series are a great value in a tool watch.
http://www.broadarrow.net/sarb3.jpg
Sinn 856S
Glycine -
Muhle Glashutte
I have a few different watches.
Omega's:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/OmegaGMT_01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/Random/Seamaster_02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/Random/SpeedyPro_1_Final.jpg
MKII Watches:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/MMTBlackwater_01_web.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/Quad10_001.jpg
Seiko's:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/Seiko02_RT8copy.jpg
Not shown is a Sinn 356 and two more Seikos, a 007 and 6309.
I like that 856s. Wouldn't begin to know where to find one though.
I have a few different watches.
Omega's:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/OmegaGMT_01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/sjauch/Random/Seamaster_02.jpg
Nice Omegas. I had a GMT identical to yours, I loved it very much. But it never ran right, kept stopping, sent it to the factory and they couldn't get it running. So I traded it for the blue Seamaster like your other one. It runs great.
I like that 856s. Wouldn't begin to know where to find one though.
Rob,
Try WatchBuys at www.watchbuys.com. They are the sole authorized dealer for Sinn watches in the US. I bought my EZM3 from the 2 months ago & love it.
BTW, Sinn announced a price increase for September 1 so move quickly.
Laurence
Rob,
Save your money and get a MONSTER!
http://www.usualsuspect.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=139021&d=1171843281
This thread has been responsible for a bit of a paradigm shift for me. I'm not a watch guy, never really have been. But the more I think about it, the more I appreciate the work that goes into a fine automatic watch. To use a similie that was espoused by our illustrious Admin, they're like a good 1911, while a good quartz plastic watch (aka, a G-Shock) is like a Glock. Both have good points and bad points. All I've ever had are various plastic watches. They could do a lot, but all I really want to be able to do is tell time. Hence, I abandoned the watch for a few years to the clock in my cell phone.
Having read a few things here and there, I have set myself on a path to pick up a few things. My baseline is a Rolex Submariner. Great style, but I doubt I will ever be able to rationalize spending that much on a watch. I'm after a classic face, stainless bracelet (leather, rubber or nylon just don't cut it for me), and a reliable movement so I won't have to take it in for service all the damn time.
For now:
- Steinhart Ocean 1 blue/blue 42mm.
- Sandoz (Hong Kong) Sub black/black
Soon:
- Sandoz Sub (Singapore) white/satin
- Seiko diver with sword hands on a super oyster bracelet
Down the road:
- Omega Seamaster of some flavor
- a MkII customized Seiko of some flavor
- a chrono of some sort
In the more reasonable price range of the "nicer" watch spectrum, take a look at Oris. You can get a really nice movement at a decent price. I have an F1 Chrono and it's one of my favorites. They use swiss automatic movements from ETA, finished in house by Oris. Not sure what exactly they do to the stock movement besides the red rotor and some polishing, but it looks pretty enough through the case window.
Watches are a funny thing... you have the super accurate, cheap, durable quartz movements that get the job done better than almost any automatic, but yet they just don't have the "personality" of a mechanical watch. Sort of a Glock/1911 thing ;) :D
+1
I like their TT1 diver.
www.friendsoforis.com is an Australian mail order supplier with great prices and service.
docsprague
08-16-07, 16:27
I really like the omega seamaster, but for work I have been considering the Chase Durer UDT.
nationwide
08-16-07, 17:09
Rob,
Save your money and get a MONSTER!
http://www.usualsuspect.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=139021&d=1171843281
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/nationwide/my_automatics.jpg
:D
Barry in IN
08-20-07, 16:22
It seems like a lot of gun people are also watch people. I think it has something to do with a fascination of fine mechanical devices. Or a penis thing.
Anyway, here's some of mine (um, watches).
Nothing too special.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/ColtsR4Football/IMG_2018.jpg
Lesser stuff:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/ColtsR4Football/IMG_2019.jpg
I'm glad to see my combined interest in guns and watches isn't abnormal.:)
My daily wear:
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_gold/deva-online/img/watch/025/E17370YL_1.jpg
NightFighter
08-20-07, 17:03
Man I feel bad now. The most I have ever spent is $350 for a Casio Silver Pathfinder. One day I hope to know enough about shooting to need a 5.11 HRT Stainless Steel Watch. Guess I am not a high end person:(
The Doxa Shark Hunter on the right is my everyday work watch the Omega Seamaster is my weekend watch. The Sinn U1 maybe U2 I've been looking at for awhile.
The Doxa is a very unique watch gets a lot of attention and I really don't baby it as much as I should considering the prices on them just went up.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb29/griff609/DSC_0735.jpg
I'm sure this has since changed due to inflation, but when I was in Thailand a in 2005 I could have paid for my trip with the money I saved on a nice watch. I almost caved in and bought a Breitling or Omega, but didn't end up pulling the trigger. On average, they were 30-40% less than U.S. prices.
RogerinTPA
08-21-07, 23:02
I was lucky enough to get a Rolex Submariner when I graduated from flight school 22 years ago and its still looks and runs very well. I was lucky enough again when an ex girlfriend bought me a Breitling a few years ago. Great watch, but wear my casio triple sensor watch the most for day to day wear. I'd probably buy some more ammo though!:p
Yup. Just a wee bit into watches.
Yep, between you and Jason D. a man could waste alot of good gun shop visiting time in "gucci watch shops" when travelling with the both of you. Well that and laughing at Jason D. buying two left boots at small world wally world.
S/F
P.S. not a big watch guy myself, but will definitely take a Rolex Oyster if given to me. Until then I'll continue to roll with my Luminox. It has literally travelled around the world over the last ten years (twice to the kitty litter box, plus HOA and SEA). It has dove to 120ft and fallen out of a perfectly good aircraft at 14,000 feet while attached to my wrist. Only needed to change the battery once.
QuietShootr
08-22-07, 19:59
Oh, you sunzabitches.... Just what I needed. I thought I'd had that addiction kicked.
Now...either the Dirk Pitt Doxa or one of the Marathons.
****ers.
Pat_Rogers
08-22-07, 20:12
I have 3 Rolex's- two Submariners and a 2 tone GMT- all gifts going back to the first in 1968.
I have worn a Zodiac Sea Wolf and a Seiko Dive watch, whatever the nomenclature was, in the day.
But i have worn the Sub or GMT about everyday of my life with few exceptions, CONUS and OCONUS, as a cop, Marine and other. I've jumped with it, blew bubbles, got in gunfights, a/c mishaps and everything in between.
At one address, it was almost mandatory to distinguish shooters from the pukes (although there were also a lot of other, more visual cues).
I have no reason for anything else.
I bought She Who Must Be Obeyed an Oyster, 2 tone, champagne dial, diamond bezel and whatever for her Birthday last year. A Very Smart Move on my part...:D
QuietShootr
08-22-07, 20:35
I have 3 Rolex's- two Submariners and a 2 tone GMT- all gifts going back to the first in 1968.
I have worn a Zodiac Sea Wolf and a Seiko Dive watch, whatever the nomenclature was, in the day.
But i have worn the Sub or GMT about everyday of my life with few exceptions, CONUS and OCONUS, as a cop, Marine and other. I've jumped with it, blew bubbles, got in gunfights, a/c mishaps and everything in between.
At one address, it was almost mandatory to distinguish shooters from the pukes (although there were also a lot of other, more visual cues).
I have no reason for anything else.
I bought She Who Must Be Obeyed an Oyster, 2 tone, champagne dial, diamond bezel and whatever for her Birthday last year. A Very Smart Move on my part...:D
At the risk of inviting range mishaps...my Dad had one of those Zodiac Sea Wolf...were they issued anywhere? He never said where he got it.
Pat_Rogers
08-23-07, 05:32
Roger, they were.
Submariner
08-23-07, 07:27
I have 3 Rolex's- two Submariners...
Mmmm. Submariner.
Someday.:( Today it's ammunition and education for off-spring.
But i have worn the Sub or GMT about everyday of my life with few exceptions, CONUS and OCONUS, as a cop, Marine and other. I've jumped with it, blew bubbles, got in gunfights, a/c mishaps and everything in between.
Jeez, Pat. You should offer to do a mosaic pictorial ad for Rolex with that line.:D
Pat_Rogers
08-23-07, 08:24
We thought about that once. Prior to a deployment once everyone on my team had a Submariner. We realized early on though that Rolex is more interested in fat opera singers and yachty people then trigger pullers.
While it is a tool, it is also a statement in some places- FWTIW.
At this stage of my life i can't see transitioning to another watch. I have multiple platforms that give me GPS time, azimuth's, barometric readings and the like. I need the watch for everyday time telling.
And pissing off some people.....:D
And pissing off some people.....:D
Excellent!
I am not yet at a point where I can justify the watches that I would like to own. While at work, I wear one of four G-Shocks, as I often find myself in various "hands on" operations that would damage most watches.;) I occasionally rotate in my Citizen Eco Drive Diver, or one of my five Seiko Automatic Divers when I am not in uniform.
Excellent!
I am not yet at a point where I can justify the watches that I would like to own. While at work, I wear one of four G-Shocks, as I often find myself in various "hands on" operations that would damage most watches.;) I occasionally rotate in my Citizen Eco Drive Diver, or one of my five Seiko Automatic Divers when I am not in uniform.
Hmm. Hands on. Does that mean help folks in and out of their vehicles? :D
C4
Erick Gelhaus
08-23-07, 09:47
FJB claimed:
Yep, between you and Jason D. a man could waste alot of good gun shop visiting time in "gucci watch shops" when travelling with the both of you. Well that and laughing at Jason D. buying two left boots at small world wally world.
I'm a watch slut. I admit it. A funny thing is seeing the reaction of folks when I wear the Omega to work.
Now, Jason and the two left boots, especially given the wx that day, ... extremely funny. And he has pretty much gotten a pass on that too.
Not the Omega.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u79/egelhaus/DSC02576.jpg
The most expensive watch I have ever owned was a Timex that I purchased for 39 dollars. I brought it in 1995 and still own it today.
I have about a dozen different watches. Most are inexpensive ones, like the Fossil titanium diver I got at their outlet in Leesburg, or the 'blemished' Seiko Couture diver from their outlet.
But I have my black Monster, and my old Heuer, and my reliable "go-to" watches, the G-Shocks.
The most expensive watch I ever bought was not for me; it's the TAG I bought for my Wife's 40th birthday. Some things are just an investment. ;)
Maybe next year when I turn 45 I'll get myself a nice new "tier 1" watch. Or a .45 Bushmaster upper. One of the two.
Hmmmmmmmmmm..............................
Army Chief
08-24-07, 18:22
I've worn the same basic TAG for years; bought the wife a proper Longines, and that's about as deep into elite watches as I've dared get.
Love those Sinns, though. They are made right down the road from me, but you'll actually get a better price there, given the Euro exchange rate and German VAT.
Chief
I wear a basic Seiko monster. I would love to afford the Sinn U1, or the new Kobold dive watch.
QuietShootr
08-25-07, 17:49
I wear a basic Seiko monster. I would love to afford the Sinn U1, or the new Kobold dive watch.
What's a Seiko monster?
Alpha Sierra
08-25-07, 19:01
http://www.seikousa.com/Assets/images/detail/SHC033.jpg
Movado Sapphire (http://www.movado.com/Details.aspx?Id=watchesmens&watchType=Mens&watchCode=&watchId=605784&page=5)
Nationwides watch, previous page in orange. Mine has the black face. If I were more computer savy I could have probably put the picture here, sorry. I got mine for $190.00 on Amazon with the metal bracelet and a cheapo plastic band.
watchluvr4ever
08-27-07, 10:21
If your looking for a good tactical wristwatch you can't beat a Seiko Diver on a Nato band. However my first choice is a no date Submariner or the SEA-DWELLER. I almost forgot to mention Casio G-Shocks, a very rugged and inexpensive watch(compared to the Rolex).
I've been lusting for a Seamaster for a long time. Maybe I can save up for one if I ever quit buying guns. ;)
Barry in IN
08-27-07, 17:53
I've been lusting for a Seamaster for a long time. Maybe I can save up for one if I ever quit buying guns. ;)
That's what happened to me. I found myself without a rifle range for a while, and that cut my gun buying in half. Suddenly, I had a bunch of watches.
I purchased a quartz Marathon SAR a month or so ago and couldn't be happier...been wearing it every day on a coyote Zulu. The Zulu, not the watch, has gotten several unsolicited comments!
After reading the prior posts, I bought an Orange Monster with a SS bracelet for 178.99 shipped from Amazon. I plan to order a dial, hands, and clasp lock (if available) from MKII and have NEWW convert it into a Monster-Bund.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/513672.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=513672&c=500&z=1)
It's even bigger than my Omega Seamaster.
BTW, MKII, Marathon, and Seiko appear to use some of the same or similar cases and bracelets, although MKII and Marathon use the Swiss ETA2824-2 movement.
that's a good looking watch uranus. that would suit me nicely for day-to-day wear. how does one go about creating/purchasing such a watch? my daily wear is a suunto vector - this would be a step up for me in the watch world...
Barry in IN
08-28-07, 11:57
It's even bigger than my Omega Seamaster.
That's big.
I have one of those, and like it, but hate banging it into half the door openings I walk through.
that's a good looking watch uranus. that would suit me nicely for day-to-day wear. how does one go about creating/purchasing such a watch? my daily wear is a suunto vector - this would be a step up for me in the watch world...
TTBOMK, simply purchase a Monster (or the Seiko diver's watch of your preference), order the parts from MKII, and send the watch and parts to one of the three authorized assemblers listed on MKII's site.
For me, since I plan to change the face, I didn't need the Orange Monster and could have saved some money buy purchasing the Black Monster.
Here are some links:
MKII
http://www.mkiiwatches.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=Parts+and+Accessories:Customize+your+own+watch+%28Parts+and+Custom+Services%29
Northeast Watch Works
http://www.newatchworks.com/
International Watch Works
http://www.angelfire.com/blues/andcameysiww/Firstpage.html
My current work watches.
Guess which one I use on flyaways?
Anyone know what he was wearing? I liked the slimness of it but also liked how large the face was. I was guessing it was a Casio but couldn't find it on their site.
I'm going to guess it's a Casio Pathfinder Solar Atomic, but at 14.4mm thick, they're not what I'd call thin. There is a "thin" Pathfinder, but they're still 11mm or so thick. In the promo shot he's wearing it halfway up his forearm, which may help make it look thinner than it is.
http://pathfinder.casio.com/watches/hiking_trekking/PAW1200-1V
SperlingPE
09-27-07, 16:01
I have a pathfinder. kind of handy (compass) when outdoors and kind of a novelty (temp and barometric press.)
I'm going to guess it's a Casio Pathfinder Solar Atomic, but at 14.4mm thick, they're not what I'd call thin. There is a "thin" Pathfinder, but they're still 11mm or so thick. In the promo shot he's wearing it halfway up his forearm, which may help make it look thinner than it is.
http://pathfinder.casio.com/watches/hiking_trekking/PAW1200-1V
Thanks for the quick ident Subzero. Some of the features are unnecessary for me so I'll keep looking.
Joseywales
09-27-07, 19:05
I bought a Luminox dive watch and wear it every day. It is awesome. I swim with it nearly every day and look forward to buying their titanium version so I have something more dressy to wear. I love the fact that I can tell the time under water or in the dark of night. The bezel is crystal clean and unscratched.
From my perspective, unless you are buying a watch with the bezel filled with diamonds or precious gems and can easily afford it, it is not worth it. I have never asked anyone, "Hey, can I look at your watch and see who made it?" Most people won't notice who made your watch and if they knew it was a Rolex, chances are they would think it is a fake.
Buy yourself a reliable watch that looks like you want it to. Get your money's worth, whatever you decide on.
At $1k.... I'd go for an OMEGA or Seiko.
I've loved all my Seikos... and at around $300 you really can't go wrong.
Jorgy
Erick Gelhaus
09-29-07, 01:56
fyi, the days of a $1K Omega are long gone.
While not expensive by these standards, I'll have to vote for a Seiko divers watch.
They are rugged and affordable. My personal preference is for the Automatics vs. the Quartz as I'm old school and don't like to depend on battery operated anything. I have one that ran for 22 years before it quit the last time I was in Iraq ('05-'06). I was fortunate enough to find a new one in a PX in country so I didnt' suffer any long term withdrawls.
While my old one is repairable, I'm giving it a well deserved rest and wearing it's replacement on my second tour.
My Sports watches
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/ess45/DSC00076.jpg
Submariner
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u11/sgb_album/rolex002.jpg
So did anyone get anything cool for Xmas? This thread started me down a path that has led to some nice acquisitions in the last few months.
Steinhart Ocean 1 39mm
http://i7.tinypic.com/6kj1c0z.jpg
Steinhart Ocean 1 42mm
http://i8.tinypic.com/8bhqgja.jpg
Seiko Orange Monster (SKX781)
http://i16.tinypic.com/72suh49.jpg
They join a (kinda) nice Sandoz and a few plain jane Timexes that aren't worth showing off. But I'm very happy with these mid level autos, particularly the Steinharts. I'd say I'm at the point with these where I was with 1911's a couple of years ago: don't see much of a difference between a $600 Springfield and a $1600 Wilson. Now if only I can figure out what the watch equivalent to my RRA 1911 is...
How did I miss this thread. I like watches much more than guns. OK, I don't really but it's close.:D
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/conndcj/watches003.jpg
fyi, the days of a $1K Omega are long gone.
Certainly true for new ones. There are lot of very nice vintage ones out there for well under a grand, though. You should be able to pick up a near perfect early Seamaster for 500-600. They are great watches.
I got a sweeeeeet $30 Casio for Christmas....
Oh wait, I'm the Tacpoint guy of the watch thread :(
Anyone wanna buy a couple of Rolexes so i can buy more guns?
I have worn just about as many watches and still going! Im working on a Omega and after that a Rolex Sub will be my(hopefully) last "grail" watch! As of lately I have been going with my Marathon SAR-D or TSAR! Wife got me a Citizen Eco Drive watch and we love them! Solar and battery powered and accurate as hell! Just cant go wrong with them!
Grunt Out!
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8969/8888755pl4.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4778/img1591vn3.jpg
I got a sweeeeeet $30 Casio for Christmas....
Oh wait, I'm the Tacpoint guy of the watch thread :(
Hey! You saved over a thousand dollars in stupid tax! :)
TheWarHound
01-03-08, 21:58
I usually wear my Seiko Titanium, or my vintage Ball gold Trainmaster. Have a couple of Seiko Railroad watches, and a Gruen Titanium, but I prefer the Titanium . . . very, very light.
I wear an Omega Seamaster with an automatic movement similar to those posted by Sam and Linea de Fuego. It might be a pre-Bond, since I think that it was assembled into a complete watch before the movie. (no Ack-Phft!) :)
It seems natural that folks intersted in the mechanical and/or aesthetic aspects of firearms would also be interested in other mechanical devices (financial considerations, notwithstanding).
Several years ago, Keith Brown, who is a firearms dealer and posts on 1911forum, told me that his brother owns a clock shop. Les Baer built and raced dragsters for decades. Rob is into cars, IIRC. When Tony Kanaly posted a photo of a pistol, it was often accompanied by a Rolex.
Or maybe it is idiosyncratic to 1911 owners.
Sam, BTW, one or both of your watches might not be keeping time!
This is an interesting point that I had never thought of. I personally fit into these categories
toddackerman
01-04-08, 07:48
I'm thinking that for me the $1k price point would be about good enough to make me feel like I had something nice, but didn't get stupid shelling out for it.
Rob,
I've had 2 Rolex's over the last 20 years. A Date Just, and Sub Mariner. They were good for the WOW factor, but didn't keep time nearly as well as my current piece which is a stainless Omega Sea Master that I've had for the last 8 years. I think you can still get them new at places like Costco and Sam's for around $1100.00, and I love mine.
My Omega is very well worn, and I NEVER take it off. Land, Sea or Air, it's always performed very well.
Linea_de_Fuego
01-04-08, 19:40
Rob,
I've had 2 Rolex's over the last 20 years. A Date Just, and Sub Mariner. They were good for the WOW factor, but didn't keep time nearly as well as my current piece which is a stainless Omega Sea Master that I've had for the last 8 years. I think you can still get them new at places like Costco and Sam's for around $1100.00, and I love mine.
My Omega is very well worn, and I NEVER take it off. Land, Sea or Air, it's always performed very well.
I likewise have had a Rolex Sub Mariner and Seamasters. I prefer the Omega, but the magmified Rolex crystal sure makes reading the date easier.
I've worn a Rolex Submariner for years and love it. It's been everywhere from 150 ft under water to the top of Kilimanjaro.
I by no means baby the watch and it looks pretty much new.
Worth every nickel.
I have the non-date model.
It survived several patrols aboard a submarine (an environment that killed many a G-Shock and even an Omega). It's also survived the last couple years working in an industrial environment. It has some scratches, but is still beautiful and the crystal is flawless. I wear it in a filthy dangerous industrial workplace, but it can be cleaned up and worn with a suit for a wedding reception. It is understated, elegant, and rugged no matter what the situation.
There are watches out there that have more panache among the well-heeled watch collecting crowd, but everyone knows Rolex.
I'll go farther and state that mine is worth every penny.
I received a Tudor Chronograph upon graduation from high school in 1984. I have worn it just about every day since. It's nice in that back then Tudor was still using Rolex cases and bands. Sucks when you have to get it worked on though. You end up paying Rolex prices for parts and labor on your Tudor. I tried to post a pic but it apparantly is too big. i'll see if I can find a smaller picture.
I haven't seen one of these mentioned: Tissot T-Touch
It may not be the most beautiful or expensive watch, but I bought it whilst in Switzerland a couple months ago, so it means a lot to me. For those who don't know, once the watch is put into touch mode, you can just touch the face to select barometer, compass, thermometer, altimeter, alarm or chrono. The compass is the coolest, because it turns the hands into the dial of a compass.
http://www.creativewatch.co.uk/t-touch-new-t33-7-798-51-220x131.jpg
I wear a 1977 vintage Rolex "Double Red" Sea-Dweller. Owned it since it was new.
Barry in IN
01-07-08, 12:47
I received a Tudor Chronograph upon graduation from high school in 1984. I have worn it just about every day since. It's nice in that back then Tudor was still using Rolex cases and bands. Sucks when you have to get it worked on though. You end up paying Rolex prices for parts and labor on your Tudor. I tried to post a pic but it apparantly is too big. i'll see if I can find a smaller picture.
Yes, I agree. My first "good watch" was a Tudor chrono. Funny how it's looked at by some as a "wanna-be Rolex" until you need a little something done, then it's status increases.
Still, even though I'm more of an Omega nut, I've gotta say that Tudor has been one of the very best watches I've had.
Linea_de_Fuego
01-07-08, 16:34
The band on my Sea Master is worn out after6 years... around $500 for a new one, WOW.
My personal choice.http://s7ondemand4.scene7.com/is/image/Signet/3475913?$detail475$
Picked mine up about 6 years ago. Sent it in for the "tune up" last year, and it cost me about $600:mad: Time for a less expencive every day.
QuietShootr
01-14-08, 20:16
I have a Rolex Datejust 18k gold/Stainless with the 2-tone jubilee bracelet for a dress watch. My soon to be heavy work watch is going to be either a Sea Dweller or a Marathon G-SAR with the steel bracelet.
With those two, a Suunto, and a G-shock, I think l'm covered for the rest of my life.
Linea_de_Fuego
01-14-08, 22:28
http://s7ondemand4.scene7.com/is/image/Signet/3475913?$detail475$
Just ordered a replacement band like this one... $375 + tax. I guess that's the breaks... pun intended. ;)
Any body use the MTM watch? http://www.specialopswatch.com/
What do you think?
I'd love an Omega Speedmaster Professional (the moon watch). They're manual wind and they are very sturdy. Excellent choice for a few grand.
http://www.omegawatches.com/index.php?id=303&details=1&ref=35705000&no_cache=1
Of course, when I'm not wearing the Rolex I got for graduating from college, I wear a Luminox with a bright orange face and a rubber strap. Perfect for a knock around watch.
I've worn a Rolex Submariner on my wrist, every day, for 18 years.
I haven't tested its 1000' depth qualifications (150'-175' only...and if my watch does make it down to 1000', it'll be attached to my corpse).........I have had it a few times above 16,000' in rather nasty weather...and its done its job.
I like the stainless Rolex line...but I'd probably replace mine with something else just for the sake of trying one of the many cool watches available.
Is it worth the money? To me, yeah.
Been wearing a Seiko Automatic Diver "Black Face" at work for a few months, good strong watch, keeps accurate time. I am finding that nice looking watches attract a lot of attention from the "clients" and will likely go back to a Timex of some kind. Been wanting an Omega Seamaster Ti for sometime though.
I've been wearing a Seiko Chronograph since the mid-1980's. It's got a bi-diretional rotating bezel which is something I use all the time. I've been looking for a watch to take its place for years but, I haven't found anything good enough yet.
Joe Mamma
wicked_police
01-15-08, 18:18
I love watches.
I have 2 Tag Link Chronographs, 1 Tag limited edition Monaco, 1 Tag Formula 1, a Tutima F2 PR2 limited edition(#3 of 250), 1 Carrera Chronograph, and just got a another Carrera, one of the new ones... Can't remember which one. :p
Also have 2 Oakley D2's, and a 5.11 HRT watch.
On my wish list are Breitling and Tissot.
Cool! Can I play?
First one isn't mine, it's a friend's Yao:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_yaoP229.jpg
Also not mine, a full crop of my wife's Zenith El Primero Open:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_zenith-fullcrop.jpg
My hard-knock watch, a Sinn UX:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_SinnUX-heaven.jpg
My traveling companion, Breitling B1 SQ:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_b1-p226.jpg
My "everyone has a Rolex, yawn" watch, Kobold Polar Surveyour II Tactical:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_kobold3.jpg
Omega Planet Ocean 45.5mm:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_OPO-1.jpg
Omega SMP, blue non-Bond:
http://greent.com/webimg/2-complete.jpg
Breitling Colt II SQ:
http://9x19mm.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/normal_BreitC2Q-1.jpg
Robb Jensen
01-15-08, 21:56
You rich bastards have all the cool watches! ;) My daily watch is a Suunto X-Lander. Someday I'd like to get a nice TAG.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Sunnto.jpg
I have an X-Lander Military, which I bought on a lark for times when it's smart to wear a cool-guy watch instead of a real one. :cool:
I've been extremely unimpressed with it. WR is very poor (technically, it's not advisable to go swimming with it much), the controls are hard to keep straight (a watch with a chrono should use typical chrono watch button methodology), and it's not as readable as I like.
On the plus side, with a little velcro, it would be totally tactical.
TAGs are decent watches, though I think most of their models tend to be over-priced for what they are. Then again, I own a Kobold, so who am I to say that a watch is overpriced? TAG is becoming the "new Rolex" for the Gen-X and Millenial generations.
Hey Guys
I'm also partial to Watches, along with guns and knives. The current rotation is a Sinn U1, a Sinn 756, Breitling Navitimer, a Zenith Defy Classic HMS, and a G Shock. I have also owned/sold/traded the Seiko Monster, ( Great Watch), Marathon SAR,(Great Watch), Omega Seamaster, ( Also Great Watch), IWC Chrono,(Scratch Magnet). I find I am drawn to great mechanical watches.
I may just stick with what I have at this point with a nice diver, a chrono, a sporty dressier watch and a Iconic classic.
Irighti
I have always been a Timex Watch Man. Took a Timex Expedition to hell and back, worked flawlessly.
I haven't seen one of these mentioned: Tissot T-Touch
It may not be the most beautiful or expensive watch, but I bought it whilst in Switzerland a couple months ago, so it means a lot to me. For those who don't know, once the watch is put into touch mode, you can just touch the face to select barometer, compass, thermometer, altimeter, alarm or chrono. The compass is the coolest, because it turns the hands into the dial of a compass.
http://www.creativewatch.co.uk/t-touch-new-t33-7-798-51-220x131.jpg
A friend of mine has one of those, the version with the orange band and some other orange things. It's a really neat watch, I'm thinking about getting one.
Anybody else have experience/opinions on them? I'm pretty new to spiffy watches, my Timex has gotten me through the last 10 years or so but I always like new gadgets.
wicked_police
01-17-08, 08:34
My buddies jewellery store in Edmonton(Alberta Canada) is where I get my good watches.
For the $300-$600 range, the Tissot's are great. I'll be getting one soon. The 'touch' feature is great, played with it a bit and it's really cool.
The other watch I have on the way is a Suunto X9i, compliments of a good friend who was sponsored by them when he summited Everest last May.
Oh, my newest Tag is the Grand Carerra Calibre RS. :D
I love my Rolex Turn-O-Graph
http://images.timeofswitzerland.com/2medium/R_060124_1116264black.jpg
You rich bastards have all the cool watches!
Rich bastards huh. How much you got in that Limited gun?? ;)
I had Heuers before TAG bought them. They were good watches then, but nothing like a Rolex for durability. The Heuers leaked and I cracked a couple crystals.
No problems with my Rolex and I've had it 15 years and wore it everyday. The majority of the time was working on offshore barges and half that was salt water time.
Find me a tougher watch and I'll buy it when I break this one.
I've become a big fan of the Marathon watches. I've owned a GMT-Master and a Seamaster, but I just seem to prefer the Marathons. For me, tritium markers are requirement #1. My first tritium-lit watch was a Luminox, and now I won't have it any other way. The Marathons save me some money, too. :D
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Knife%20Pics/601b8699.jpg
That GSAR cleans up real nice with the stainless bracelet, too. I'm getting married Saturday, and the woman has made it very clear that I will NOT be sporting the zulu strap for the wedding. "Tactical" is not a very big concern for her. :D
Nice Marathons Seeker! Thanks for sharing.
I bought one of these in Singapore. Built like a tank- great beater watch. Still wear the Submariner most of the time
http://www.skywatches.com.sg/seiko_divers_SKX779K/tnskx779k.jpg
Linea_de_Fuego
01-21-08, 15:04
I agree that it is time to get a beater watch too.
Think that I will get this Seiko.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6554/snk803k211hq5.jpg
QuietShootr
01-22-08, 18:17
I've become a big fan of the Marathon watches. I've owned a GMT-Master and a Seamaster, but I just seem to prefer the Marathons. For me, tritium markers are requirement #1. My first tritium-lit watch was a Luminox, and now I won't have it any other way. The Marathons save me some money, too. :D
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Knife%20Pics/601b8699.jpg
That GSAR cleans up real nice with the stainless bracelet, too. I'm getting married Saturday, and the woman has made it very clear that I will NOT be sporting the zulu strap for the wedding. "Tactical" is not a very big concern for her. :D
How about a pic or two of your GSAR with the bracelet on it?? I'm lusting for one of those.
Here ya go. I need to clean off the bracelet a bit, but you get the idea. When it's clean it looks just as good as any other stainless bracelet out there, IMO. That dude is TOUGH, too. You don't have to worry about links coming apart.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/DSC_1250Medium.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/DSC_1254Medium.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/DSC_1257Medium.jpg
You wouldn't believe how hard it is to take a picture of your own wrist. :D If I can get some assistance, maybe I'll put up a better one.
QuietShootr
01-23-08, 18:18
Very nice, thanks! I think I'm going to have to have one, now.
I just picked up an old, late 80's / early 90's, Breitling Navitimer that is titanium. Very slim and light compared to my Submariner. I'm going to see if it takes a licking for my daily wear.
QuietShootr
01-25-08, 23:08
pics to follow. This is a big ****ing watch (in fairness, my normal daily wear is a Rolex Datejust). Very nice..
A friend of mine has one of those, the version with the orange band and some other orange things. It's a really neat watch, I'm thinking about getting one.
Stay away from the orange band. It gets dirty really quick and needs constant attention with degreaser.
Angelina Jolie wore a T-Touch in Mr & Mrs Smith. Stay away from the orange band. It gets dirty really quick and needs constant attention with degreaser.
http://i25.tinypic.com/2pq19g8.jpg
Yeah I'm not a big fan of the orange, anyway. I would probably get the black band, or the metal band. I'm not sure which I like better.
I have heard a common complaint is the lack of a backlight, have you found this to be an issue or do the hands glow enough on their own?
Scattergun
01-27-08, 18:56
I must be weird, I haven't owned a watch in over 30 years.
K.L. Davis
01-27-08, 19:07
I must be weird, I haven't owned a watch in over 30 years.
:eek:
I don't think I have been a day without a timepiece in the last 30 years.
Gentle Ben
01-29-08, 15:49
I like Seiko divers. The 200m automatic on my wrist right now is around 12 years old, has seen hundreds of dives, as well as some parachuting & helo rappelling. Only within the last couple of months has it started to run fast...like picking up an extra hour per day. :mad: To its credit, it's seen a lot of abuse, and has never been serviced.
I have a vintage Seiko 300m "Tuna" Pro out being serviced right now, so when I get it back, the 200m auto is going to get some TLC.
For the $1k range, you can get some of the most desirable vintage Seiko divers: the 600m and 1000m Tunas. Big, impressive looking/feeling watches, built to withstand serious commercial-grade diving conditions. I'd guess that means they'd take anything you could dish out on dry land as well. :p
Here's my Tuna (one just like it, actually): http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Snail50/8days_147.jpg
Here's a 600m: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Snail50/070213041.jpg
I've allways wanted a Seamaster. Where should I be looking to get a reasonable price?
New or used.
I recommend Timezone.com
I recommend a gently used Seamaster. I sold one a while back in 90% shape for $880.00. It's a nice watch.
AlphaOmega is going out of business and currently offering 20% off most watches, which in not a good deal. Wait a couple of weeks if you want to buy new. Perhaps we may see >40 % off. An Omega Seamaster at 35% off from an AD in doable.
I recommend Timezone.com
Seconded. Especially now, the prices are pretty reasonable for gently used (watch-speak for "it aint new but it aint been knocked around, neither") watches due to the generally state of the economy.
I've actually got a blue face non-Bond SMP that is 8yr old, recently polished and regulated, that I'm considering selling. If you're interested, drop me a PM.
Looking for anything, this is a good place to start: http://www.elitedealseeker.com/index.cgi?category=watches
I have seen Omega SMPs on Watchnet, Timezone and WatchUSeek for an average around $1200-$1400. There is the occasional flyer down around a grand but 12-14 seems more reasonable and available. There are a couple of beauties on WatchUSeek right now that I might consider were I not hunting for a Sinn.
BTW that EliteDealSeeker site, while not perfect, also has a handy tool for searching various firearm for sale forums. I like it a lot as it beats my old routine of trolling 5-10 watch board and/or gun board sale forums every day. That gets to be a bit time consuming.
fabulous45s
01-30-08, 19:08
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/Fab45s/Hi-power1.jpg
I promised myself that I'd splurge on a Seamaster when I put on Chief. I almost always wear a G-shock with a Suunto button compass in the field.
I really should work on my background and lighting some more...LOL
Gentle Ben
01-30-08, 20:17
until 12 years or so ago, I'd worn a variety of G-Shocks, Ironman, etc. Wore them until they broke, then threw them away. finally ponied up the $$ for a "good" watch ($200 or so...a lot for an E2), and it's been with me ever since.
Nathan_Bell
01-30-08, 20:23
Luminox Titanium, keeps time and date. It has had some nasty chemicals on it and still working. If I ever kill it, I guess I will have to revisit this thread :p
i collect Rolex's and Randall knives have for 30 years. cant be beat for quality or function. my father gave me a rolex and a randall when i went to Nam'' on my 2nd tour. still got the watch. some scum bag medic stole the knife when i was med-vac-ed to japan in 71''
use Randall's on all my web gear use lummox for work
www.odspec.com
you can see Rolex and Randall's here. the case's of knives are in the office i am sitting as i write this.
Hell of a deal on a Seiko if anyone needs one.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=413670&pn=2
Here's a fuzzy pic of the GSAR I took in Cozumel while snorkeling with the new wife. I had to get the picture to silence all my buddies who make fun of me for wearing a dive watch that never gets wet. :D
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Wedding%20Cruise/IMG_0134Medium.jpg
Not that it was any real test, but this was at about 15-20 feet. Too bad Marathon doesn't make eardrums, mine wouldn't let me go down any deeper - ouch. :D
Is anyone familiar with Traser? I like this Ti version and from what I've read it's essentially the European version of Luminox.
http://www.traserusa.com/en/watches/detailkat2watch7.php
Is anyone familiar with Traser? I like this Ti version and from what I've read it's essentially the European version of Luminox.
http://www.traserusa.com/en/watches/detailkat2watch7.php
Try here: http://www.lapolicegear.com/trh3wa.html
I had an Air King but sold it to my brother. I'm waiting on my tax return--I'm either gonna buy an AI AW, two Schmidt scopes or a submariner. Probably end up flipping a coin to decide.
One thing I didn't like about the Air King was the latch popping open when I jacked a mag into my pistol. The Sub has a better latch for that kind of work.
Is anyone familiar with Traser? I like this Ti version and from what I've read it's essentially the European version of Luminox.
http://www.traserusa.com/en/watches/detailkat2watch7.php
I don't have any personal experience with them, but I've heard they are pretty nice watches. They seem to be the same quality as Luminox, whether or not the two companies are related.
QuietShootr
02-09-08, 16:29
I had an Air King but sold it to my brother. I'm waiting on my tax return--I'm either gonna buy an AI AW, two Schmidt scopes or a submariner. Probably end up flipping a coin to decide.
One thing I didn't like about the Air King was the latch popping open when I jacked a mag into my pistol. The Sub has a better latch for that kind of work.
My Datejust does that. If I flex my wrist wrong sometimes it'll pop open, too. I finally got some smooth-jaw needlenose pliers (Rolex Authorized Dealers please avert your eyes) and bent the tabs inward to stiffen it up some, but it still does it occasionally.
My new T-SAR has been getting a lot more wear than the Datejust lately, anyway.
I don't have any personal experience with them, but I've heard they are pretty nice watches. They seem to be the same quality as Luminox
Unfortunately I didn't take a photo of the MB in the shower. It fogs up pretty bad.
My Sinn 656 - a Valentine's Day gift from my wife (finally got around to taking / posting a pic):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/clintl/SINN656.jpg?t=1203805338
Tag Heuer Formula 1
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff242/Glock20C/DSC00311.jpg
This one gets my vote:
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/bikethief22/watch.jpg
wicked_police
02-24-08, 12:52
B&R are beautiful.
I love the big instrument style.
One of these days, I'll get off my butt and get pics of mine on here.....
Some very good posts here (My everyday is a two tone Rolex Sub- black face). I have been wearing since the early 90’s with minimal if any issues. I wish I would have purchased one sooner rather than spending the money on so many 200-1200 dollar watches that I purchased prior to.. (the sub’s used value has almost doubled since my original purchase price) few of my other watches have. Breitling and Omega also make very nice timepieces. Just a few things that come to mind that I haven’t seen mentioned- 1) Cost to service and maintain- If you go Rolex count on minimal shop visit’s to be @ 350 (mine is cleaned and serviced every 2 years due to the salty environment that I live in). 2) Any high-end timepiece can attract attention (sometimes unwanted). 3)If you go with an automatic/self-winding watch be cognizant of how often you will or will not wear the timepiece- Not only is it better for the longevity of the life, an "automatic winder watch box" will allow the time piece to maintain it’s time/date and optimal winding cycles (If you choose to change out to a different timepiece)
My Sinn 656
Beautiful tool watch. Sinn is such an underrated brand. Wear it in good health!
I've worn a Rolex Submariner for years and love it. It's been everywhere from 150 ft under water to the top of Kilimanjaro.
I by no means baby the watch and it looks pretty much new.
Worth every nickel.
wow that is impressive. I'm surprised that the watch hadn't been deeper though for diving, since the limit of recreational diving is 130 feet. You must be a qualified technical diver.
Love the submariner myself. Timeless styling, essentially looks the same as it did when they started making it 50+ years ago. It's a style that will never go out of style. It's big enough to be a mans watch without being huge and overbearing like a suunto.
Sidewinder6
03-09-08, 16:41
Well I can warn you guys about the Casio Pro-Trek. Its a puck watch with altimeter, compass and time zones, etc. It uses a solar charger to recharge the internal battery. Mine went T.U. and I took the watch to 3 repair shops who wont touch it.
They tell me it has to be returned to the factory for repair. Right.
Well, Im off to get something that works as a backup to my GMT II.
Public service announcement:
Costco is offering an Invicta copy of a Rolex stainless Submariner for $50 (normally $99 there) June 9-22. This watch has gotten kudos on watch geek websites.
costco item 405017
Seiko still makes a great watch...
http://www.thewatchplaceonline.com/images/SKX173.jpg
http://www.monsterwatches.nl/Pics/SNK809_1g.jpg
Still easily "replaceable" if you manage to lose them. And it wont cost an arm, a leg,...and one testicle.
Seiko still makes a great watch....
That's funny. I've been combing this thread the past few days, and went with a Seiko "Black Monster".
It's got a lot of good reviews.
rob- I'd second the Oris rec and I like Sinn a lot too. Oris has good autos at the $1200-ish price point, and the brand has a lot of history.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/DSC_1254Medium.jpg
The SAR is on my list for this year...I'd like to see a JSAR in person just to see how big they really are.
any input on the 23 jewel Seiko's? considering a SNZC97. i'd like a decent automatic somewhere in the sub $300 range and am digging this one from my searching so far...
http://www.watches88.com/prod_images_large/snzc971.jpg
also really like the SNZC41 but haven't been able to find one :(
theJanitor
06-10-08, 11:33
;)
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h30/grandprixboy/a-1911breitling017.jpg
Quote from the link below on the Seiko "black monster"
Watch collectors (I am one) prize a watch with an in-house movement. That is a movement built by the manufacturer of the watch and not sourced from a separate entity. Rolex, Patek Phillipe, Zenith all make their own movements and all cost huge sums of money. The Monster has an in-house movement and costs less than $200.00...that, my friends is an accomplishment! The Seiko 7s26 movement is automatic (no batteries) and near bulletproof...it is known as the AK47 of the watch world.
http://www.epinions.com/content_213563117188
No one here has the Citizen 1000m Ti "AutoZilla"? This watch is a real "monster"! I've been on search warrants, chases, "hands-on", etc. with it and then turn around and wear it to church. The watch looks great and wears great too.Having a titanium case it is light for its size and has Citizen's Duratec hardening process to help keep it from being scratched, dinged, etc.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/213/autozilla2nz2.jpg
TUNNEL RAT 33
06-23-08, 19:43
i have the steel version of that Citizen . yeah its a beast !!!
I recently bought one of Traser's quartz movement composite bodied watches - the P6508 Code Blue. I can appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into a fine watch, but this watch suits my needs perfectly. It goes well with the rest of the gear that I EDC - quality, but they're all just working tools - My XD, Surefire E2DL, Benchmade Griptilian, and Kel-Tec P3AT all fall into that category. I picked it up from LAPG over their Memorial day sale on closeout. It wound up being under $170 shipped with a free Surefire L1. You can't beat that with a stick!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/chooie/DSC00014.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/chooie/DSC00016-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/chooie/DSC00020.jpg
Seiko still makes a great watch...
http://www.thewatchplaceonline.com/images/SKX173.jpg
http://www.monsterwatches.nl/Pics/SNK809_1g.jpg
Still easily "replaceable" if you manage to lose them. And it wont cost an arm, a leg,...and one testicle.
Yeah, you can get Seiko 5's for $50-$175 on eBay all day long. Fantastic value, and one of the best watches you can buy for the money. In my experience, they are usually accurate to within +/-15 sec/day which is great for a $10, machine-made movement. Seiko is no slouch of a maker. They make in-house movements ranging from the machine-made 7s26 auto, to the handcrafted Grand Seikos with hand wind movements which can top $15k. Even their Singapore made 7s26's are good.
I have one as my daily beater that only gains about 9 sec/day on avg., which is great since I'm usually running late.:D Not a high-beat chronometer by any stretch, but respectable for a sub-$100 mechanical watch. They have been reputed to run 20 years w/o a service. While they don't have a hack feature or hand wind option, they are very efficient self-winders as they auto-wind in both directions. I usually get about 36 hours+ of reserve power out of mine, plus... no batteries.:cool: I've been wearing my beater nearly daily now for going on five years without issue. I believe the monster divers all have Singapore made 7s26 movements, but I could be "mis-remembering".
BTW, that Citizen Autozilla is awesome!
If I buy a Seiko, it will be one of these:
http://images20.fotki.com/v366/photos/2/28123/259262/SBGE001-vi.jpg
It's times like this I wish I smoked ...
If I buy a Seiko, it will be one of these:
http://images20.fotki.com/v366/photos/2/28123/259262/SBGE001-vi.jpg
It's times like this I wish I smoked ...
Well, I do smoke... CIGARS! And those pics definitely call for a CAO. Maybe some Bulleit bourbon as well.:)
Man Todd, you have some SERIOUSLY good taste!
Dayamn!!!
Tissot T-Touch. Titatium with blue dial.
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/gkanga/watch/jacketCloseup-s.JPG
I can sense a GSAR in my near future and a Submariner LV (the green bezel one) in my more distant future. Another day, another addiction...
If I buy a Seiko, it will be one of these:
http://images20.fotki.com/v366/photos/2/28123/259262/SBGE001-vi.jpg
It's times like this I wish I smoked ...
Wow, the lume looks GREAT on that.
What's the damage or do I even want to ask? :eek:
What's the damage or do I even want to ask? :eek:
Not normally available in the U.S. If you want one, it has to come direct from Japan (http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SBGE001/New_Grand_Seiko_Spring_Drive_GMT_SBGE001.html). Current price seems to be just shy of 580,000 yen.
Tennvol12345
06-24-08, 09:30
I wear a Rolex GMT II
My everyday watch is a Breitling Skyland Avenger, I collect watches but this one is my favorite. When I am training/working (range/tactical) it is my Casio G-Shock for sure!
Check this out!
http://www.manthanein.com/orient_express/WZ0091ER/
I purchased one of these for my father a while back. The dollar/yen exchange rate was pretty favorable then, making the watch only $250 to my door from Higuchi inc. in Japan. Fantastic watch!
Those fans of the vintage Rolex Explorer 1 will likely appreciate it. It is not an exact copy obviously, but more of an homage to the X1's styling cues. It makes a wonderful choice for an "every day" watch, so you don't bang up your originals. Plus, it has a date window complication.
I can attest to the craftsmanship of this watch. I'd say it'd be hard to get this level of quality at even four times the price. Orient also makes all of it's own movements "in-house". Signed crown and bracelet w/deployant. The photos truly belie it's beauty. Absolutely stunning! I believe Seiko/Epson is still owns 51% of Orient, so you'll have warranty support. Higuchi is wonderful to to business with.
RadioActivity
06-24-08, 19:06
I love my Marathon TSAR, but oddly enough I wish it was slightly bigger.
I don't think I'll ever spend near a grand for a watch, but I'd sure like to :)
Breitling...yum. This thread delivers!
I love my Marathon TSAR, but oddly enough I wish it was slightly bigger.
I don't find it odd. The bigger the better.
I don't think a watch can be TOO big. :confused:
I don't think a watch can be TOO big. :confused:
I'm not so sure I'd go that far ...
http://snicka.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/flavaflav.jpg
I had a Rolex Submariner for about 8 years and it did nothing for me. I guess the name impresses some. I now have a Suunto Navigator and love it.
I love my Marathon TSAR, but oddly enough I wish it was slightly bigger.
I don't think I'll ever spend near a grand for a watch, but I'd sure like to :)
Breitling...yum. This thread delivers!
I guess you just need the JSAR! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjWuOKidF1k&eurl=http://countycomm.com/jsar.htm
I'm not so sure I'd go that far ...
Flava Flave in a Viking helmet? :D
Yeah BOYEEEEE!
http://www.tizonpress.com/misc/kimber-fun.jpg
i stopped wearing it though because i want to give it to my son when he graduates high school. another 10 years and im sure this watch will still be ticking...
Not normally available in the U.S. If you want one, it has to come direct from Japan (http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SBGE001/New_Grand_Seiko_Spring_Drive_GMT_SBGE001.html). Current price seems to be just shy of 580,000 yen.
Guess I better get two then :p
My Breitlings are keep far more accurate time than my Rolexs do.
My Breitlings are keep far more accurate time than my Rolexs do.
My Tag 2000 exclusive has been losing time lately. My wife bought it for me. I wear everyday and have had it for 5 years I think. It gets abused. Only recently have I had this minor issue. I can't find a Rolex I'm willing to spend that amount of money on. I have never personally had my hands on a Breitlings.
My Breitlings are keep far more accurate time than my Rolexs do.
Same here.
Same here. The guy whos does my watch servicing and repair told me the Breitling movement is superior, but the Rolex movement will last longer.
My Breitlings are keep far more accurate time than my Rolexs do.
Are your Breits autos or quartz? Both of my Breits are quartz (they call it Superquartz) and keep phenomenal time, usually +/- 10sec per year.
The movements in Breitlings are ETAs which are then refined by Breitling. The Rolexes all have in house movements. In theory I guess the Rolex movement is supposed to be more robust, but since the first sign of wear is usually that the watch stops telling time well, that's sort of cheating. Most Rolexes don't tell time well out of the box. :p
We only have one Rolex in the house, my wife's. Both when new and after its most recent service, it still loses 15+ seconds per day. In comparison, we have three other autos between us (a Kobold, an Omega, and a Zenith) which all keep at or better than +/- 1sec per day.
Then again, my daily wear around watch is a Sinn UX which uses the same thermally compensated quartz mechanism as the Breit Superquartz watches (all made by ETA) and it's lost one half of one second since DST began on 9-March.
And yes, I do have the Naval Observatory atomic clock on my cell phone's speed dial. It's a sickness.
I want a Submariner on a NATO strap but I'd feel like such a poser.
toddackerman
06-28-08, 08:21
I wear a Omega Seamaster.
C4
Me too.
I had 2 Rolex watches (Sub-Mariner and Date Just) and the Omega tells extremely better time (even after having the Rolex's adjusted) and it doesn't have to worn to be wound because it is a battery powered watch. Rolex's standard is +/- 30 seconds per month. The Omega standard is 1 second per month.
I got mine at Costco in 2001 for $just over $1,000.
toddackerman -- In fairness, you're comparing apples and oranges. Any quartz watch, even a mediocre Casio, is going to be much more accurate than just about any automatic. Nonetheless, watch enthusiasts (WIS, Watch Idiot Savants) almost universally consider automatic watches far more desirable than quartz.
I'm in no way busting on your Omega. I've got four quartz watches, and two of them (my Sinn UX and Breitling B1) are the ones I wear almost every day. As you said, the incredible convenience of a watch that runs for days or even months without having to wind it or reset it is a big deal.
If you get a chance, I'd be interested to see a pic of your Seamaster or get the product code for it. I didn't think the Seamaster quartzes used thermocompensated movements, and were rated for the quartz standard of +/- 15sec per month. They're not COSC certified to the best of my recollection (COSC certification requires thermocompensation).
toddackerman
06-28-08, 09:22
toddackerman -- In fairness, you're comparing apples and oranges. Any quartz watch, even a mediocre Casio, is going to be much more accurate than just about any automatic. Nonetheless, watch enthusiasts (WIS, Watch Idiot Savants) almost universally consider automatic watches far more desirable than quartz.
I'm in no way busting on your Omega. I've got four quartz watches, and two of them (my Sinn UX and Breitling B1) are the ones I wear almost every day. As you said, the incredible convenience of a watch that runs for days or even months without having to wind it or reset it is a big deal.
If you get a chance, I'd be interested to see a pic of your Seamaster or get the product code for it. I didn't think the Seamaster quartzes used thermocompensated movements, and were rated for the quartz standard of +/- 15sec per month. They're not COSC certified to the best of my recollection (COSC certification requires thermocompensation).
No offense taken, and I know that the 2 platforms are different, but a watch is suppose to first and foremost IMHO tell good time. That was my only point.
Regarding thermocompensated movements...I have no idea what that means, and my reference to accuracy was based on me checking one of these 2 sources every month or so to get the "Real Time".
303-499-7111 or this website: http://nist.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Mountain/d/-7/java
My Omega Seamaster is just labeled on the front with:
Omega Seamaster Professional 300m/1000ft Swiss Made
The back of the watch just has the Omega Sea Master logo
Todd -- Agree 100% that a watch's first job is to tell time. That's what's separates normal people from WIS. To me, a watch that loses minutes per month is unbelievably frustrating. But then I'm an accuracy nut when it comes to watches, which is why I have so many thermocomp quartzes.
What is thermocompensation? Short version is that after crystal quality, the next biggest factor in a quartz movement's accuracy is thermal stability. The quartz crystal is affected by ambient temperature. A thermocompensated quartz watch, then, has a mechanism for measuring ambient temperature and slowing/speeding the movement according to an algorithm that forces it to keep the proper time regardless of temperature.
In the case of your Omega, if it's keeping +/- 1 second per month, right off the bat you know you've got a very good crystal. And while the ETA quartz movements that Omega uses are certainly good movements, you've got a particularly good one. It's like lucking out and getting a stock Colt that shoots 1/2 MOA.
Since it's not thermocompensated, odds are you either wear it almost every day or its "resting place" when not being worn has an ambient temperature close to skin temperature.
Thermocompensation isn't necessary for maximum accuracy, and in fact the most accurate watch in the world (the Citizen Chronomaster and its A660 movement) is rated for +/- 5 seconds per year but is not thermocompensated. So you have to wear it every day (I believe they recommend 12 hours) to get that level of accuracy.
I've got a Suunto X-Lander Military that keeps right around +/- 1 second per month, and it's not a thermocomp. Again, that's just luck of the draw. But if I was wearing it every day in varying temperature conditions, the accuracy would probably suffer a bit compared to being in my house all the time.
The premium paid for a thermocomp quartz basically takes the luck out of the equation. They're generally made with the highest quality crystals (which can also be used in non-TC'd quartz, like the Omega SMP) and then have the added temperature control and shock resistance features needed to earn COSC certification.
A standard quartz is expected to run +/- 15 seconds per month, but most will run much better (+/- 5 seconds per month). A standard TC'd quartz is usually expected to run +/- 15 seconds per year and anything under 10 is considered great.
Todd -- that definitely plays a role in the accuracy. I'm not surprised it runs even with the shooting you do. A lot of watch nuts freak out about wearing watches when golfing because of the stress it puts on the watch, but a watch like your Omega shouldn't even notice. I don't have any watches I wouldn't wear while shooting.
But even with the all-day wear, it sounds like you got yourself a particularly great SMP. Enjoy it!
Are your Breits autos or quartz? Both of my Breits are quartz (they call it Superquartz) and keep phenomenal time, usually +/- 10sec per year.
The movements in Breitlings are ETAs which are then refined by Breitling. The Rolexes all have in house movements. In theory I guess the Rolex movement is supposed to be more robust, but since the first sign of wear is usually that the watch stops telling time well, that's sort of cheating. Most Rolexes don't tell time well out of the box. :p
We only have one Rolex in the house, my wife's. Both when new and after its most recent service, it still loses 15+ seconds per day. In comparison, we have three other autos between us (a Kobold, an Omega, and a Zenith) which all keep at or better than +/- 1sec per day.
Then again, my daily wear around watch is a Sinn UX which uses the same thermally compensated quartz mechanism as the Breit Superquartz watches (all made by ETA) and it's lost one half of one second since DST began on 9-March.
And yes, I do have the Naval Observatory atomic clock on my cell phone's speed dial. It's a sickness.
I have a Headwind and a Skyland Avenger, both being automatic movements.
The prices of Swiss watches have really gotten out of control and with the weak US dollar and the strength of the Euro I really can't afford to buy new anymore (LOL, BTW I just dropped 1400.00 for a new upper from Wes/MSTN). I wear a Casio G-Shock solar GW-2300 for patrol and my EDC watch is a Citizen Ti EcoZilla. I have a D Series Sea Dweller that I purchased brand new in 2006 and the new retail is 6250.00 (Yikes!!). The secondary market is where I will looking for my future purchases. My favorite watch that hasn't come home yet will be a HOT (Hands of Time/Randall Benson) fully restored Seiko 6105-8110 diver.
Stan
and to think I haven't worn a watch since ~1996... I'd better stay out of this thread else you all will spend my money :p
I've got a 6105-8000 that's being refurb'd by IWW as a gift for my little brother. The watch was originally my grandfather's.
refurb'd... interesting.
I have an Omega that was my dad's, as well as an Omega that was my grandfather's.
...I should take some pictures.
Anyone run any of the MARATHON military/dive watches?
and to think I haven't worn a watch since ~1996... I'd better stay out of this thread else you all will spend my money :p
Ironically, since I started this thread, I don't wear a watch either and finally came to realize I really don't want to.
If I absolutely positively need to know what time it is, my phone will tell me. If I don't have my phone on me, chances are I don't care what time it is.
You got to be shittin' me.
You got to be shittin' me.
C'mon man, the 'Lade is all the bling I need!
:cool:
C'mon man, the 'Lade is all the bling I need!
:cool:
How are you going to hang out the window bare wristed and sporting a yellow visor?
I have this watch. Don't have a pic. What's the general consensus of Tag Heuer watches?
I like it, but it's been sitting in a drawer w/ a dead battery that I'm too lazy to replace.
http://edit.store.yahoo.com/lib/movadobaby/cac1110.bt0705.jpg
Anyone run any of the MARATHON military/dive watches?
I've got a GSAR and a Navigator's. There are some pictures a few pages back, but here's a couple more.
I've only been down about 20 feet with the GSAR, but I do a fair bit of shooting with both of them as well as the general work stuff. They are both going strong.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/c2531c7d.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/574861b4.jpg
eflatlander
07-14-08, 16:46
Looking for a new watch, anybody here have any experiance with O&W watches? Seems like alot going for it for the price.
I have this watch. Don't have a pic. What's the general consensus of Tag Heuer watches?
I like it, but it's been sitting in a drawer w/ a dead battery that I'm too lazy to replace.
http://edit.store.yahoo.com/lib/movadobaby/cac1110.bt0705.jpg
Oh, that watch....
It's a total piece of crap. You may as well send it to me to dispose of. :D
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/574861b4.jpg
Those Marathon's just have a manly look to them. I ordered a JSAR. I want too see if a watch can really be too big. :p
Seiko still makes a great watch...
http://www.monsterwatches.nl/Pics/SNK809_1g.jpg
Still easily "replaceable" if you manage to lose them. And it wont cost an arm, a leg,...and one testicle.
I have one and love it. A great value at ~$50. :D
I've got a GSAR and a Navigator's. There are some pictures a few pages back, but here's a couple more.
I've only been down about 20 feet with the GSAR, but I do a fair bit of shooting with both of them as well as the general work stuff. They are both going strong.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/574861b4.jpg
I just got a GSAR about a week ago, it is a DAMN good looking watch. I haven't gotten the bracelet fitted yet, so I'm still wearing the rubber strap, which I also like very much. I'm glad it's so easy to change between them.
I'll take some pictures eventually, but for now here is more T-Touch (and what it replaced):
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/gkanga/watch/ttAndOld-s.JPG
i wear a Tag Heuer Link....
its a nice simple watch with classic tag styling.
http://www.tagheuer.com/the-collection/link/index.lbl
or i wear a Citizen aqualand duplex
or a Skagen titanium....
Those Marathon's just have a manly look to them. I ordered a JSAR. I want too see if a watch can really be too big. :p
Well, this guy has a 7" wrist.... :D
http://www.atwoodknives.com/pics/jsar3.jpg
For comparison, here's a GSAR on my 7 3/4" wrist...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Wedding%20Cruise/IMG_0134Medium.jpg
Well, this guy has a 7" wrist.... :D
:eek:
Oh my God! My wrist is not much bigger. I don't think I'll be able to sneak this one past the wifey.
Also, truthseeker... Where do you send your watch to have a battery replaced on a non - automatic SAR watch? Does it have to go back to Marathon?
The Navigator's just has a back plate that you can pop off with a small screwdriver. Then you need a teeny little (technical term) phillips to take off the clip holding the battery. Fairly easy other than the small tools. The TSAR needs a spanner-type wrench, but most jewelers should be able to handle it without a problem. I've always just gone down to the local mall and hit all the stores until I find one with a real live jeweler working, and they fix me up. There are exceptions, of course, but most of the "salespeople" I've run into don't know what the hell they're doing, so I don't let 'em touch my stuff.
Also, FWIW, I think not having the tritium is a deal-breaker on the JSAR, regardless of whether the size is right or not.
Also, FWIW, I think not having the tritium is a deal-breaker on the JSAR, regardless of whether the size is right or not.
Really? Apparently some people specifically DON'T want the tritium. I'm not sure why. :confused:
My black monster easily glows all night and can be read in the dark early morning hours.... so I'm not too picky on the lume.
http://www.atwoodknives.com/pics/jsar3.jpg
Damn, that thing should be hanging from Flava Flav's neck! Wow.
Just curious, am I the only nerd who still wears a Luminox?
Just curious, am I the only nerd who still wears a Luminox?
Nope.
Luminox is good bang for the buck. They were a gateway drug to Marathon, though, so be careful.... :D
RogerinTPA
07-15-08, 18:34
[QUOTE=truthseeker;191209]I've got a GSAR and a Navigator's. There are some pictures a few pages back, but here's a couple more.
I've only been down about 20 feet with the GSAR, but I do a fair bit of shooting with both of them as well as the general work stuff. They are both going strong.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/truthseeker1106/Junk/c2531c7d.jpg
They used to issue these in my old unit back in the day (94).
They were pretty good watches.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/d8006/RolexSDhighres800.jpg
GSAR!
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/gkanga/watch/IMG_0004.JPG
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/gkanga/watch/IMG_0005.JPG
I tried to get a decent picture of the tritium lume but they didn't really come out.
I love my TSAR with an array of Maratac nylon wrist bands.
I was going to get the big JSAR, but as stated, no H3.
I love my TSAR with an array of Maratac nylon wrist bands.
I was going to get the big JSAR, but as stated, no H1.
The JSAR can be considered armor from what I can tell. I remember a DPS officer here in AZ who got shot by some asshole. The bullet lodged in his watch.
DPS bought him a new watch, and it wasn't even a very nice one if I remember correctly. :mad: A JSAR would have been perfect! :p
I was going to get the big JSAR, but as stated, no H1.
H3.
Genuinely curious, what do you guys see as the selling point for tritium in watches? I'm surprised to hear so many folks saying they love the JSAR but won't buy it because it uses luminova instead of tritium for lume.
K.L. Davis
07-16-08, 23:22
H3.
Genuinely curious, what do you guys see as the selling point for tritium in watches? I'm surprised to hear so many folks saying they love the JSAR but won't buy it because it uses luminova instead of tritium for lume.
I have no use for Tritium; actually, having it would most likely be the deal breaker for me, not the contrary.
I have no use for Tritium; actually, having it would most likely be the deal breaker for me, not the contrary.
That's always been my stance, as well ... with the exception of the very old/weak tritium paint on the main hands of my Kobold which is still bolstered by superluminova. It's barely visible without charging except in extremely dark environments, and even then only if you look closely.
But so many people seem to think it's the be-all that I'm interested to hear their reasons.
I have no use for Tritium; actually, having it would most likely be the deal breaker for me, not the contrary.
Cool! I thought I was nuts. I wish the JSAR was automatic, but other than that I'm glad it doesn't have tritium!
H3.
Genuinely curious, what do you guys see as the selling point for tritium in watches? I'm surprised to hear so many folks saying they love the JSAR but won't buy it because it uses luminova instead of tritium for lume.
Thanks Todd, did not notice my mistake, must have the Liberal's favorite car on the mind.
To answer your question, No, it is not the be all end all. I just wanted to have it on my SAR. I have never had a watch with it and thought it would be cool to have it on my SAR. Hell, I probably will regret it as you stated and wished I would have gone standard.
Demigod, I look forward to hearing your impressions on the JSAR>
Fringe -- tons of people love trit for their watches, so there's certainly no reason to expect you won't like it. And as anyone into firearms will attest, "I wanted it because I don't have one of those yet" is one of the best reasons to get one! :cool:
I like the tritium 'cause I just had the bad luck to look at my other watches every time the hands weren't glowing. Just bad timing, I guess (no pun intended). The tritium is always there, no matter what. The brightness isn't a factor, because if I can't see the hands glow, it's bright enough to not need it anyway.
That's just my .02, but I certainly don't knock anything that doesn't have tritium. For an everyday watch, I just prefer it.
So in summary, my big reason is the always-glowing factor. :D
K.L. Davis
07-17-08, 20:26
I like the tritium 'cause I just had the bad luck to look at my other watches every time the hands weren't glowing. Just bad timing, I guess (no pun intended). The tritium is always there, no matter what. The brightness isn't a factor, because if I can't see the hands glow, it's bright enough to not need it anyway.
That's just my .02, but I certainly don't knock anything that doesn't have tritium. For an everyday watch, I just prefer it.
So in summary, my big reason is the always-glowing factor. :D
That is, to me, the down side... it is horrible for light discipline -- I know guys say to cover the watch, but then... well...
I can turn on a miniLED light, but you can't turn off a Tritium watch.
I don't what it is, except it is stainless, broad arrow marked, Swiss made, and a
Australian SAS trooper gave it to me as his token of appreciation for helping his
team survive a very unpleasant evening in a far away land, a long time ago.
That is, to me, the down side... it is horrible for light discipline -- I know guys say to cover the watch, but then... well...
I can turn on a miniLED light, but you can't turn off a Tritium watch.
I don't get shot at enough, obviously. :D
I never really looked at it like that, but I see your point. A glowing watch would probably stick out like a sore thumb when seen through NV devices.
I'll make you a deal, though. I'll run in and distract them with my watch if you'll shoot them before they shoot me! :D :D
I hooked a robbery suspect that we chased, he hid......long story short he had dark clothes, a black hoodie on over his head and face while hiding, hands in his pockets to cover his skin......casio gave it away, from FAR away:D
RadioActivity
07-18-08, 05:35
H3.
Genuinely curious, what do you guys see as the selling point for tritium in watches? I'm surprised to hear so many folks saying they love the JSAR but won't buy it because it uses luminova instead of tritium for lume.
For me the luminescent paint does not last nearly long enough to be of use. The tritium is exactly how it was described above, if its bright enough to wash out the tritium vials then the hands are easily seen, if its too dark to see the hands, the vials are easily seen. I think its great and I don't think I'll buy a watch without tritium for daily wear without it.
I'm surprised people are saying that the luminescent paint on their watches is adequate. For me its barely visible after a few hours, but further, if I go from light to dark and my eyes haven't had time to adjust, the luminescent paint is undetectable...but the tritium is there, glowing and easily visible.
Thats my experience. I was never a watch guy and the TSAR was my first (relatively) high dollar purchase. I love the thing to death, and I'm worried for my wallets sake as maybe a CSAR will be in my future someday :D
A glowing watch would probably stick out like a sore thumb when seen through NV devices.
The minus blue coating on NVG's objective lens prohibits light of blue/green hue to be seen. This is, at least for US made nightvision. I have spent many a night dicking with my TSAR under NVG's in the back of a helicopter testing this theory and it does indeed apply for the TSAR's trit vials. :p This is the entire principle of "NVG friendly" visible light (usually green or green-blue). You know, just in case your on jeopardy someday
Does anybody know of any other higher value watches (500+) that use tritium viles for lum? Can the vials be added later by someone who works on watches?
Not being a tactical/sneaky/whatever dude I also prefer the always-on of tritium. When I wear a watch. Which is never. At least not in 5+ years outside of shooting events. So nevermind....
Ball does tritium, they're pretty well thought of.
Luminova varies from brand to brand depending on the exact composition they use and the amount. The latter is affected at least in part by the shape and size of the hands.
For example, my Sinn UX has relatively weak lume. If I want to be able to read it when I wake up in the middle of the night, I need to charge it for 10 seconds before I go to sleep. The case is airtight and filled with a special oil to prevent compression at great depth, and the oil absorbs a certain amount of light.
My Breitling B1 also has relatively weak lume, this is because the hands are very slim so there isn't a lot of luminova to glow. Luckily, the B1 also has an NVG-compatible backlight display.
My Omega Planet Ocean has very good lume, and it's easily read throughout the night without being so bright that it's noticeable from a distance.
I've found the best place to test lume is in a movie theater. Your pupils are relatively small because you're literally staring into a light, but the environment is pretty dark. If you can see your watch after being in a movie theater for a couple of hours, odds are the lume is adequate for just about anything.
RadioActivity
07-18-08, 11:57
Todd,
Can you elaborate on the ball comment? Who are they? They can add trit vials to non-trit watches after the fact? If so, this would be very very good news to me...
fabulous45s
07-18-08, 21:41
Fine firearms and fine watches go together like rootbeer and vanilla ice cream.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/Fab45s/Hi-power1.jpg
Tom Jones is right, Ball Watches was the brand I was talking about. They don't modify existing watches, but they make a number of them with tritium inserts.
Since no one is using tritium paint anymore (to the best of my knowledge), tritium in watches needs to be capsules like the ones used in night sights. As such, there is really no way to apply it to an existing watch. The dial and hands would have to be made from scratch, and that would cost a lot of scratch.
There are a number of places that will put luminova on an old watch, though.
theJanitor
07-21-08, 03:21
this citizen eco-drive seems to be holding up really well
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h30/grandprixboy/a-vltor-lmt-colt001.jpg
this citizen eco-drive seems to be holding up really well
I almost bought an eco drive Dive watch. But the lack of standard strap lugs was the deal breaker.
Gutshot John
07-21-08, 08:24
I almost bought an eco drive Dive watch. But the lack of standard strap lugs was the deal breaker.
I don't know if this is related, but my Eco-Drive Aqualand is on it's third strap. The reinforced rubber kept tearing.
I went with an aftermarket metal band, but that's an imperfect solution. Nice watch otherwise, 5 years later and still going strong.
I don't know if this is related, but my Eco-Drive Aqualand is on it's third strap. The reinforced rubber kept tearing.
Exactly. That's just the nature of rubber watch bands... even my G-shocks go thru at least one band.
Having a watch that you can throw a Maratac dive strap on because it has standard lugs is nice. You can always have a cheap dive strap handy, and don't have to search high and low for a proprietary watch band.
Exactly. That's just the nature of rubber watch bands... even my G-shocks go thru at least one band.
Not to be picayune, but that is the nature of some rubber watch bands. The heavy rubber strap on my Sinn UX is like new after a year of almost daily use, including during classes, working out, etc. In fact, the only real sign of wear is that the clasp is pretty scratched up.
A buddy has a Panerai rubber strap that is literally indistinguishable from a new-in-wrapper one. Another buddy wear his Breitling on a branded rubber and it's also in perfect shape.
But I do agree, a nylon strap is a functional, stylish, durable alternative. I keep meaning to put my Kobold on a Zulu since the factory bracelet is subpar.
Not to be picayune, but that is the nature of some rubber watch bands.
I can't speak for natural rubber watch bands. I've never used one, but the JSAR I'm getting will have one.
But G-shocks and almost every other synthetic rubber watch band I've owned has cracked or broken at some point. Maybe G shocks have low quality bands. :confused:
My Seiko black monster dive watch just started gaining 4 minutes per hour last night. :confused: When I woke up this morning, it was almost an hour ahead.
I just bought it last month. It's been great up until last night. I've heard of this problem on 8-10 year old Seiko automatics. But this thing is brand new.
Is it possible it was magnetized?
How exactly do you put a Zulu strap on a Seiko? I just got my strap in and I'm not sure how to get the old one off.
Is it possible it was magnetized?
I don't know. I'll retrace yesterday's events to see where I had set it.
:confused:
How exactly do you put a Zulu strap on a Seiko? I just got my strap in and I'm not sure how to get the old one off.
If it's a dive watch, it should have holes in the case where the lugs go. Just bend a small paper clip open as a lug tool. It's too easy.
I don't know. I'll retrace yesterday's events to see where I had set it.
Computer or stereo speakers are notorious for this.
I'm far from an expert on Seikos, though. If you can't work it out, send me a PM and I'll put you in touch with a buddy who is a collector.
Demigod, I look forward to hearing your impressions on the JSAR>
I just got it. I'm still taking in its glory. It's not too big to me at all. The watch came exactly as the youtube demo that countycomm.com posted... down to the vanilla scent from the natural rubber band. My only worry is that my clumsy ass will scratch the hell out of the crystal that sits flush with the bezel. The Seiko in inset a bit which I liked.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/trixiebud/hudson020.jpg?t=1216683519
The single sided card for instructions is just for me. I hate complex watches with hard to remember features/settings and page after page of instructions on the different modes, etc.
Computer or stereo speakers are notorious for this.
I'm far from an expert on Seikos, though. If you can't work it out, send me a PM and I'll put you in touch with a buddy who is a collector.
The seller is sending me a warrantee card. (it should have come with the watch, but didn't)
I'll probably just send it in, and see what they say.
JaketheSnake
07-21-08, 19:16
I got tired of having to buy watch batteries. So I purchased an Eco Drive Citizen.
Blue Angels Skyhawk edition.
http://www.citizen-watch.co.uk/citizen/jr3090-58l-citizen-skyhawk-blue-angels-pilots-watch-220x156.jpg
IrishDevil
07-21-08, 19:33
Big +1 my Sinn U1 rubber strap is like new after alot of abuse. I do like Zulu straps, I use several of them, mainly on Seikos. For some strange reason I wear rubber/nylon straps in the summer and bracelets in the winter. I think I only have one watch wearing a leather strap right now, just don't care for them.
Not to be picayune, but that is the nature of some rubber watch bands. The heavy rubber strap on my Sinn UX is like new after a year of almost daily use, including during classes, working out, etc. In fact, the only real sign of wear is that the clasp is pretty scratched up.
A buddy has a Panerai rubber strap that is literally indistinguishable from a new-in-wrapper one. Another buddy wear his Breitling on a branded rubber and it's also in perfect shape.
But I do agree, a nylon strap is a functional, stylish, durable alternative. I keep meaning to put my Kobold on a Zulu since the factory bracelet is subpar.
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