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Defensive Armament
12-12-10, 07:55
Hey guys, this is my first post on the boards. Although, I have bought and traded with a couple of the members on here behind the scenes.

Earlier this year I acquired another AR carbine which was sold to me as a Preban. I've never heard of the Company who made it, so I started researching the interwebs in hopes of finding out something.

Typically when you google anything you can find more than you want to know about something or someone. However, this AR has me at a loss. There is virtually NO concrete info available on this obscure company. I've found a few guys on the web who, like me, have been searching for info and they, like me, have run into nothing but dead ends.:confused:

Those of you who frequent ARFCOM may have seen my threads over there. I posted in the general section, retro section and hometown (PA) section since the lower was made in Greentown, PA.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Defensive_Armament/2010_1201Camera0009.jpg

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Defensive_Armament/2010_1210Camera0001.jpg

The lower is stamped as follows:

RGM. INC.
GREENTOWN, PA
MOD. MARKSMAN
CAL. 223
SER.# USMC1


This is what I have found:


This one was found on ar15armory.com


More details guys. My memory was off a little. the guns says;
RGM, Inc.
Greentown PA
MOD-Marksman
Ser# USMC 8
I did some research a few years ago. Found a # for a hardware store in Greentown PA and spoke to an old gentleman who remembered RGM as a long defunct machine shop. I assume they must have had a govt contract maybe even in the V-nam era (???). Any way I wish I could find out more but hit a dead end.



This one was found on PAFOA


Back in the middle 1980's there was a gunsmith in central pa.His name was Ralph G Maggiola. Ralph also made investment cast ar 15 lower recievers.HIs initials [RGM]were on each reciever as part of the seriel number
I sold many of his recievers when Bill Clinton introduced the assualt rifle ban.
Hope this helps.....



Found this guy on GB looking for info. I actually contacted this guy, he said he bought two lowers from a gun show in FL back in 1997. They were sold to him as Pre ban too.


RGM (Royal Grinding Machine) in Greenville, Pa. was a M-16
(AR-15) contractor. When did the company close down?
Are the RGM AR-15's with USMC serial numbers collectable?
Thank you much,

Bill


I was also told that it looked to be a cast lower.

That's all folks. It's a freakin' mystery to me. It's bugging the crap out of me. Typically when one needs info it is a click a way........but not wth this company. It seems virtually non existent.

Please help someone, anyone. There has to be someone with some knowledge of this company.

Thanks, Jason

SpankMonkey
12-12-10, 08:02
I got nothing, sorry.

markm
12-12-10, 09:11
Very cool. Definitely an old school forging. Never heard of them though.

scjbash
12-12-10, 09:17
While searching that name, I found this article that mentions a Ralph Maggiola being a Barrett Township PA volunteer firefighter.

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070410/NEWS/704100315/-1/rss01

According to Google that's very close to Greentown Pa, so it seems like it would have to be the same person, or at least a son or other family member.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&expIds=17259,24283,27585,28066,28104&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=barrett+township+pa&cp=11&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Barrett+Township,+PA&gl=us&ei=B-QETZLIN8Kblgf6u6mbBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBgQ8gEwAA

I'd call the fire department there and see if you can get some contact info for him, or if they can't give it out you could leave your contact info for him.

Defensive Armament
12-12-10, 09:29
While searching that name, I found this article that mentions a Ralph Maggiola being a Barrett Township PA volunteer firefighter.

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070410/NEWS/704100315/-1/rss01

According to Google that's very close to Greentown Pa, so it seems like it would have to be the same person, or at least a son or other family member.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&expIds=17259,24283,27585,28066,28104&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=barrett+township+pa&cp=11&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Barrett+Township,+PA&gl=us&ei=B-QETZLIN8Kblgf6u6mbBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBgQ8gEwAA

I'd call the fire department there and see if you can get some contact info for him, or if they can't give it out you could leave your contact info for him.

Cool, I'll follow that lead. Thanks alot bro.

scjbash
12-12-10, 10:15
Cool, I'll follow that lead. Thanks alot bro.

You're welcome. Keep us updated.

dm188710
01-01-11, 10:48
I have the same lower that you do. It is exactly the same as the picture, except my serial is USN # instead of USMC. I accuired it in California just before the assualt rifle ban went into effect. The person I got it from did not want to register it and I had a residence in Oregon, so we did some wheeling dealing. He told me at the time it was a preban, however I have nothing to back it up either, other than the fact that it has obviously been around for a long time. Mine has been assembled as an A1. Im in the Navy so the USN serial fits. I have been curious about the lower and Im suprised by the lack of info availabble.

Robb Jensen
01-01-11, 10:55
Very cool. I've never seen nor heard of one of those. I'd be interested in hearing about the history of that company too.

dm188710
01-01-11, 10:58
Eventualy if enough people respond we might find out.