Yankee Hill Machine Lightweight Tactical Free Float - Rifle Length

[Jimston]

Should i have any trouble taking off my standard plastic hand guards, and then mounting this Rifle length Yankee Hill?

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/YHM-2-Piece-Tactical-Handguards-Rifle-Length-p/yhm-9803%20-%20rifle%202pc.htm

I need something in this price range. is this a good piece? if any of you guys/gals have experiance with it, let me know what you think.

Thanks.

[Jimston]

Any tube or hand guards must be the snap on type, because I'm to scared and inexperienced to remove the barrel for installation.

[AlphaKoncepts]

To mount a free float tube you need a vice, a upper vice block a barrel nut wrench, a torque wrench and possibly a strap wrench. The cost of tools is equal to what you'd pay a gunsmith to do this for you.


However this is not a free float tube, but is a snap on direct replacement for standard AR hand guards. Just make sure you get the right length, and all you'll need is a hand guard removal tool. You actually don't need a hand guard removal tool, but it makes the job a whole lot easier.

[AlphaKoncepts]

If you're looking for cheaper, command arms makes a similair rail #M44L

[Iraqgunz]

Just remember that if you are planning on using this weapon for serious business or you plan on mounting optics on the rail you don't want to buy questionable rails. They may look the same, but they are not.

I wouldn't consider YHM or CAA for any serious use.

[kmrtnsn]

Your only "snap on" option is the CASV system from Vltor.

[AMMOTECH]

You can go with the KAC M5 RAS for a non-free float option. Easy to install and can be found used for a lot less then new.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/KAC-M5-RAS-p/kac%20m5%20ras%20rifle.htm

A quick search on the equipment exchange of all the major AR fourms should turn up one within your price range.

here is an example:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=159&t=827043

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[Darkop]

Just remember that if you are planning on using this weapon for serious business or you plan on mounting optics on the rail you don't want to buy questionable rails. They may look the same, but they are not.

I wouldn't consider YHM or CAA for any serious use.

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Not to mention they are LARGE, as in wrapping your hand around a 4"X4" LARGE.

Until that day,
Darkop

[Jimston]

Just remember that if you are planning on using this weapon for serious business or you plan on mounting optics on the rail you don't want to buy questionable rails. They may look the same, but they are not.

I wouldn't consider YHM or CAA for any serious use.

Thanks for the info. So if this $150$ rail is of questionable quality, then i imagine that the Magpul MOE is too?

I notice that there is a small amount of play/wiggle between my 6601c's lower and upper receiver.

Would there be even more play on the front end of the weapon if i were to use a low quality rail? thanks.

I would prefer that all parts seat extremely tight.

Lastly, is there really anything wrong with the plastic hand guards?

Or is there any benefits to using the other hand guards i have which are the old school A1 fiberglass style? These are the triangular shaped hand guards.

My bad on asking so many questions. I have a lot to learn, and hope that buying a Colt as my first real AR15 was a good choice.

[Jimston]

You can go with the KAC M5 RAS for a non-free float option. Easy to install and can be found used for a lot less then new.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/KAC-M5-RAS-p/kac%20m5%20ras%20rifle.htm

A quick search on the equipment exchange of all the major AR fourms should turn up one within your price range.

here is an example:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=159&t=827043

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Thanks, i will check into this.

[RAM Engineer]

I'm surprised BCM would debase themselves selling that YHM rail or those Tapco magazines.

[scottryan]

I'm surprised BCM would debase themselves selling that YHM rail or those Tapco magazines.



No kidding.

[ApacheTactical]

http://www.apachetactical.us/shop/category_8/Rail-Systems.html?shop_param=cid%3D%26

Here is a few different rails to look at.

[Jimston]

Thanks everyone. It's not easy finding Rifle Length tubes or hand guards/rails, is it?

[GermanSynergy]

For a rifle length non FF I'd go KAC RAS myself.

[Redhat]

Jimston,

Not to talk you out of it if it's what you want but are you sure you even need rails?

[Jimston]

I don't think i need one to be quite honest. That is why i was hoping i could find a Rifle Length MOE Hand guard, but they are no where to be seen.

[Jimston]

There has been over a dozen home invasions in my neighborhood in the past 9 months or so. Honestly, a forward grip and good tactical light is all i need.

Some terrible things have happened to fellow residents lately. I will not let such things happen to me or my family.

[luckyguy1]

Jimston, when asking advise here on this forum you are getting the best advise but also consider it's like getting driving tips from NASCAR drivers or formula 1 drivers in some cases.:laugh:

99.99% of all of us including those of us in law enforcement will ever find ourselves needing the "Tier 1" type equipment, and to be honest I think we all get "marketed" into thinking we do need it in the first place.

a warrior is 10% equipment and 90% mindset.

there are warrior's on this web site and others who will kill King Kong himself with a dull butter knife, and many others, if not most, who would struggle to best a first year Taliban recruit.

get whatever you like and train with it (A LOT) and see if it works for you. if it does, and you are satisfied with your results, then the rest is just marketing.

I have found the Magpul two piece hand guards work awesome for me, and I have owned almost all of the best manufactures equipment in regard to rails, optics, and accessories.
I have come full circle almost and am going back to basics on "stuff" and I now only run a aimpoint micro, a streamlight TLR-1 light and a can, the rest of the "stuff" on my gun just seems like marketing fluff.

training is where you should put most of your dollars.
A true warrior would make mince meat of a home invader with a cap and ball revolver if that's all he had.

johnny couch commando could have a $3000 AR and claymores and still not succeed. :laugh:

[Jimston]

Training is extremely important, i agree. 1500 rounds of .223 should help me out in that aspect when it comes in :)

[Redhat]

You can mount a light to the standard round handguards.

[Jimston]

You can mount a light to the standard round handguards.

If this is possible, then i will no longer pursue the idea of buying a rail.

Honestly, a good light is really the only thing i need. The idea of being able to at least blind an attacker, is something that i feel is important to me.

Can you give me a name of the part or website?

[Redhat]

Here are some examples to give you an idea. There are also others made by different manufacturers (many of which have banner's at the top of this web site) :

http://www.gggaz.com/index.php?cat=164&parents=89

[Glockster35]

If you just want to add a light and foregrip, then here is a great option. I am using one on a 16" and absolutely LOVE it. It's small enough I can grip all the way around the tube!

http://www.apachetactical.us/shop/article_162/TROY-TRX-EXTREME-13%22-BATTLE-RAIL-BLK.html?sessid=pY82o3RWu4CC1hlz0235DWglR2r7K8QmJbXKD9tuLTmS9NRa6ONsBxd4lYzgHLCz&shop_param=cid%3D29%26aid%3D162%26

[AMMOTECH]

You can just add a rail to the front sight frame and then mount the light at that.

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=94

Not mine but you can get an idea of how that mount works.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/KISS_003.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Surefire_mounts_015.jpg

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[Redhat]

That's what I'm talking about!!! Start out simple and when you gain some experience you can make an educated decision on what you need. Otherwise you wind up with a lot of stuff in a box.

[11B101ABN]

RAS II. Loved mine.