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rvrrat14
01-20-11, 13:41
I want to install a VG to my Armalite M4 and maintain my existing furniture (coyote brown). Do I just need to bolt a rail onto the lower part of the front grip? Newby, be gentle.

THANKS!

Grumpy MSG
01-20-11, 13:52
That would be your easiest solution.

rvrrat14
01-20-11, 14:59
I assume any would work. Not sure how they fit/bolt to the handrail though....

shadow65
01-20-11, 15:03
Is the hand guard railed?
Most vert grips just slide onto the rail and a screw is tightened to secure them. Or, if so equiped, a QD lever.
Dave

rvrrat14
01-20-11, 16:17
No, it's not railed. It has the holes in the top/bottom and a narrow track that runs from front to back between the holes.

shadow65
01-20-11, 16:22
Here you go: It attaches to the hand guard via the holes.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Midwest-Industries-MCTAR-03-p/mctar-03.htm

rvrrat14
01-20-11, 17:17
Thats zactly what I needed. Do you have any recommendations on a good grip. I like the ones with the battery storage, etc. THANX A ZILLION!

shadow65
01-20-11, 18:11
Here is an inexpensive good quality VFG that includes a mounting rail. http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG412/107It does not have battery storage though.
There are many that do. Price range and quality vary. Just go to a dealers web sight like Bravo Company, and see what you like.
Dave

Zeus
01-20-11, 18:54
LOVE the MOE line... it's just works for me...

Pappabear
01-21-11, 00:42
Here is an inexpensive good quality VFG that includes a mounting rail. http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG412/107It does not have battery storage though.
There are many that do. Price range and quality vary. Just go to a dealers web sight like Bravo Company, and see what you like.
Dave

Anyone else run this grip? feedback?

lethal dose
01-21-11, 00:55
i'd replace your hg with a magpul moe (cheap and GREAT quality) and a moe vertical grip.

swampfox1975
01-21-11, 09:46
i'd replace your hg with a magpul moe (cheap and GREAT quality) and a moe vertical grip.

+1 very good reccomendations. Moe is a great feeling grip and defeats the overpriced adversaries. Like the 80.00 vfg I have, that I don't like as much.

EBAM1A
01-22-11, 13:45
I had a bolt on rail for a plastic hand guard so I could mount a VFG and a few good hits to the VFG the hand guard started to crack. It was a Colt brand M4 hand guard not a cheep no name. I switched it to a Magpul MOE hand guard and used the same bolt on aluminum rail and VFG. The Moe plastic was a lot thicker and I feel better for mounting VFG to but I ended up switching to a railed hand guard.

shadow65
01-22-11, 14:01
I agree. If you are going to be running it hard, I would get a railed hand guard for mounting a VFG.

BCmJUnKie
01-22-11, 15:06
A QD mount will make your life so much easier. I would spend the extra cash and get one. Mine screws in with an hex bolt via grip core. Its not difficulty by any means, but the QD is just SO much faster and convenient.

Shoot 1st
01-22-11, 18:33
Stubby tango down on most of mine. You may go through a few before you find the one you like or you can just shoot what you have and learn to like it.

BCmJUnKie
01-22-11, 23:21
Stubby tango down on most of mine. You may go through a few before you find the one you like or you can just shoot what you have and learn to like it.

ANYTHING tango down is bad ass

rvrrat14
01-23-11, 13:40
Here is an inexpensive good quality VFG that includes a mounting rail. http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG412/107It does not have battery storage though.
There are many that do. Price range and quality vary. Just go to a dealers web sight like Bravo Company, and see what you like.
Dave

That should do the trick. Not a big deal for the storage, just thought it may come in handy. THANKS AGAIN!

rattlesnake
01-23-11, 14:17
I can store 6 cr123 batteries, and I have a MOE vert grip. I store the batteries in the magpul moe grip.. And I have a command arms stock saddle that stores either 2 or 3 on the tubes on each side. I only carry 2 in the gripcore. There is other storage options.


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l541/rattlesnake505/545x39.jpg

Wolf Spyder
01-23-11, 22:58
I really like the Troy Modular Combat Grip.

It is all aluminum and comes either Black or Flat Dark Earth. In the "long" configuration it will store two CR123A batteries. I like the "stubby" configuration. The rubber O-rings keep it water tight. I think some folks avoid it because it is aluminum and don't want the added weight. YMMV

http://troyind.com/%20/battlerails/troy-modular-combat-grip

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/Wolf_Spyder/TroyMCGVFG.jpg
This images should be self explanatory.

As an after thought, I wanted to mention that mine came with two attachment screws. One flush mount "slot" screw, and one diamond shaped twist screw that made it easy for quick removal with just your fingers. I use the diamond shaped twist screw, and when it is tightened... it stays put and is very solid.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/Wolf_Spyder/IMG_0317LongConfigurationsmallimages.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/Wolf_Spyder/IMG_0318StubbyConfigurationsmallimages.jpg