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SF is about to release the latest handgun weapon light. It is called the X300. It features the new CREE LED which has dramatically changed the LED world with its output and run time.
Here is the spec sheet on it: http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/SF/X300.pdf
The X200B will be discontinued some time in the near future.
C4
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/SF/x300.jpg
Looks like a great light. Those CREE LED's are sure making an impact
Price is not too bad either.
olds442tyguy
08-30-07, 16:09
110 lumens huh? My eyes are burning just looking at the PDF! :D
QuietShootr
08-30-07, 16:22
I thought the X300 was supposed to have a laser?
I thought the X300 was supposed to have a laser?
That is the X200L which won't come out till SS I think.
C4
Voodoochild
08-30-07, 17:16
Price check!!
Will there be an upgrade for existing X200Bs available?
Separate A & B models or does this replace just the B?
Will there be an upgrade for existing X200Bs available?
No Sir.
C4
Separate A & B models or does this replace just the B?
This replaces the B model.
C4
Price check!!
PM sent!
C4
Thought I would ask,
The profile of this is the same for the X200A/B right? So the same holsters will work?
Thanks.
Thought I would ask,
The profile of this is the same for the X200A/B right? So the same holsters will work?
Thanks.
They should.
C4
Voodoochild
09-02-07, 20:04
ETA? Forgot to ask in my first question.
ETA? Forgot to ask in my first question.
Should ship this month.
C4
Will the X200 DG switch work with the X300?
Will the X200 DG switch work with the X300?
Yes it should.
C4
Excellent, I've been waiting for these to come out.
I think the x300 might work well as "Scout" style on a long gun. It should be powerful as 6v Scout style lights but a lot lighter...:D
SinnFéinM1911
09-05-07, 14:10
Ive had one for a couple months now (Prototype) it run like a charm !!
Ive had one for a couple months now (Prototype) it run like a charm !!
What are your thoughts on using a X300 on a AR carbine? Will it at least give the same lighting capability as a Scout Light?
What are your thoughts on using a X300 on a AR carbine? Will it at least give the same lighting capability as a Scout Light?
The LED on the Scout is just a standard Lux. The X300 has the CREE so IMHO, the X300 would make an excellent choice on an AR. Couple the X300 with the XT07 tape switch and think it will be a fantastic setup!
C4
Grant,
What you mentioned is very close to what I have in mind. I seem to be moving to smaller and smaller units as the weapon light technology advances. It's one of the few accessories that is actually getting better and smaller at the same time.
The X300 has the CREE so IMHO, the X300 would make an excellent choice on an AR. Couple the X300 with the XT07 tape switch and think it will be a fantastic setup!
C4
Could you PM me with how much 2 of these combos would cost me? Thanks.
Grant,
What you mentioned is very close to what I have in mind. I seem to be moving to smaller and smaller units as the weapon light technology advances. It's one of the few accessories that is actually getting better and smaller at the same time.
With age comes wisdom. We realize that a very heavy is a bad thing and if we can cut the weight down here and there then all the better.
I have been doing more and more CQB type training and having gone through Vickers low light shooting course (and going back this Nov) I have come the realization that a light mounted at the 12 positioned is really the best place. The problem with this is that you need a torch that is very low in profile as you need to be able to see your irons.
I intend to work up some guns with the X300 and the XT07 mounted at the 12 position and run them through some low light training.
C4
militarymoron
09-06-07, 10:38
I have come the realization that a light mounted at the 12 positioned is really the best place. The problem with this is that you need a torch that is very low in profile as you need to be able to see your irons.
C4
i'm assuming this is mounted in front over the barrel, not behind the front sight on the rail?
i'm assuming this is mounted in front over the barrel, not behind the front sight on the rail?
Correct. The light would go in front of the front sight.
C4
Jay Cunningham
09-06-07, 10:45
I'm thinking something like this:
http://www.danieldefense.com/img/product/a7a723c2cd683946050fc12e9d6952fb.jpg
would allow for that mounting option described. At least on a carbine gas system.
Yes, if you had a fixed front sight. If you were running a low profile GB and a rail mounted flip up sight, any rail would do.
C4
militarymoron
09-06-07, 11:01
gotcha - makes sense.
Grant,
Very true about mounting the light at 12 o'clock. IIRC, Ned Christiansen designed such mount a few years ago. He was really way ahead of the curve!;)
Here's Ned's mount.
http://www.m-guns.com/galimg/adn.sized.jpg
I think my old school KAC FF-RAS MRE might be able to do the 12 o'clock mount.
Jay Cunningham
09-06-07, 14:29
Note the wire loop thingy that was the precursor to the one BFG now sells...
the1911fan
09-06-07, 16:26
On the pic of Neds ...where is the pressure switch?...not visible in the photo or not there?
Looks like the standard X200 tailcap to me.
Not to take anything away from Ned, but the original Surefire 676 light mounted a 6V light in the same location wrapped around the front sight base. Also, the original wire loop came from Dave Johnson at Boonie Packer. It was part of his BP-5 sling 15 years ago. That was the design inspiration for the UWL from Blue Force Gear.
I'm thinking something like this:
http://www.danieldefense.com/img/product/a7a723c2cd683946050fc12e9d6952fb.jpg
would allow for that mounting option described. At least on a carbine gas system.
I believe the X200/X300 may work but I can tell you from experience that an ITT M3 weaponlight will not work in front of your FSB if you are also using a DD 12.0FSP. The M3 is too tall and blocks your view of the sight post.
RAM Engineer
09-06-07, 20:08
I believe the X200/X300 may work but I can tell you from experience that an ITT M3 weaponlight will not work in front of your FSB if you are also using a DD 12.0FSP. The M3 is too tall and blocks your view of the sight post.
I believe that Ned's mount is closer to the bore c.l. than a MRE-style 12 o'clock rail.
I believe that Ned's mount is closer to the bore c.l. than a MRE-style 12 o'clock rail.
I think you are correct. Honestly, I suspect that if I had a spare X200 lying around it would work on my DD rail too. The M3 that I have is an old design and is kind of bulky compared to the Surefire LED models.
The only other thing I can think of is that if it were me I would want to use a tape switch with the X200 or X300 and Ned's mount. Would the tape switch back plate fit in front of the FSB?
http://www.louderthanwords.us/smallfoto/picts/ulfls/06072007/16167624172.jpg
http://www.louderthanwords.us/smallfoto/picts/ulfls/06072007/18720544011.jpg
Then there's the recent revision from Ned.
The KAC MRE can be flipped so that the top rail is below the height of the receiver flat top. This was pure design genius that let you mount a PEQ-2 lower to obscure less of your sight picture. It also works great to mount a X200 or even a traditional 6V light at 12 o'clock. This may be the best light set up ever if you are willing to use a tape switch.
I have come the realization that a light mounted at the 12 positioned is really the best place.
C4
Grant,
This is interesting. Can you explain this more?
Grant,
Do you offer a LEO discount and if so is it comparable to SureFires LEO discount?
Grant,
This is interesting. Can you explain this more?
Mount the light on the left or right side and then shoot around the opposite corner.
C4
RAM Engineer
09-26-07, 14:08
Mount the light on the left or right side and then shoot around the opposite corner.
C4
Also, mount one at 6 o'clock and try shooting over a barricade.
Mount the light on the left or right side and then shoot around the opposite corner.
C4
Duh... :o
Thanks.
Ned Christiansen's mount would be a good option for carbines without foward rails. He mentions on his website that that right now they are a custom only product, with production a possibility in the future. Does anyone have any further details? Maybe a group buy would be in order.
Are we there yet?? :D
Called my internal rep yesterday and they said that they are shipping out next week!
C4
Voodoochild
09-27-07, 18:06
That's what I am talking about..
I have an X200(A) on my duty pistol and cannot wait to get a X300 on my Commando! Have my direct order in with Surefire for two in addition to an XT07... ready to get these in and my tools re-equipped!!!
Voodoochild
10-03-07, 16:25
Dano I checked it out today at the Expo and was impressed by it. A lot brighter than the 200 I like the cans as well.
I really wish Ned would put that mount into production!
I intend to work up some guns with the X300 and the XT07 mounted at the 12 position and run them through some low light training.
C4
Grant,
Is the XT07 switch available? I can't find it on Surefire's site.
Grant,
Is the XT07 switch available? I can't find it on Surefire's site.
Yes and no. SF still makes them, but they have been on back order for several months now.
If you want one, send us an e-mail and we will put you on our back order list.
C4
Grant,
When will you be getting the X300's in?
Can you IM a price...
Thanks
Side note, the XT07's have been mentioned in this thread... any word on when they will be out again? Have had an order on hold with Surefire for quite awhile now.
Grant,
When will you be getting the X300's in?
Can you IM a price...
Thanks
SF said that they are shipping these next week. Check your PM.
C4
Side note, the XT07's have been mentioned in this thread... any word on when they will be out again? Have had an order on hold with Surefire for quite awhile now.
Don't know for sure.
C4
Well, took the day off work today and once I got around UPS showed up.
Opened it up and there are my two X300's from Surefire. Replaced my X200 on my Glock 21C and put the second on my M73 rail on my Commando.
Luckily it is a stormy day so there is not much light seeping into my apartment. Initially, I like them. Will have to wait til I go to work or hit the range at night to do a true comparison. Not much else to say though, same build quality as any other Surefire product.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/zgxtreme_photos/CIMG0005.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/zgxtreme_photos/CIMG0004.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/zgxtreme_photos/CIMG0003.jpg
I apologize, my camera skills are lacking. From the photos, it does appear that the bezel on the X300 is a little longer, but I have no problems with it in my duty holsters.
I'll give ya $25 cash money right now for that old, outdated, obsolete X200.:D
Ha... at the moment its on my Glock 30 until I can decide on how to mount the damn thing on my Benelli M4.
EDIT TO ADD: Tried taking photos to compare beams between the X300 and my X200A but my camera sucks. Can say that during my initial comparison, the difference between the two made me think that the batteries on the 200 were going dead. Put new ones in and well... I was wrong, the 300's output just made it look like the 200 model was was going dim. So with that, I am thoroughly impressed and highly recommend the product!
These are now in stock!
C4
These are now in stock!
C4
Impressive lil suckers aint they!!! :D
Impressive lil suckers aint they!!! :D
Yes they are! Kick the crap out of the A and B X200's.
C4
Thanks Grant. You are great to deal with!
Shivan,
You won't be disapointed sir. These really do kick the crap out of the a/b model. I tried both and sold them both off after using them on duty. The 300 I've been using for roughly two weeks and it's great. Did a building search on a call I had several day's ago and it worked as advertised!
Homme Formidable
11-04-07, 19:34
I ordered one yesterday.
Can't wait to stick her on my G17.
Brian
Now Surefire just needs to complete their refinements to the XT07 switch!
I am looking to place a x300 on top of my rail and run a XT07 as has been suggested by some members on this board, my concern is with the length of the whip on the XT07 - How long is it?
I have looked around for a cut sheet on the XT07 and cant find what I am after.
Can someone help me out? Thanks
I am looking to place a x300 on top of my rail and run a XT07 as has been suggested by some members on this board, my concern is with the length of the whip on the XT07 - How long is it?
I have looked around for a cut sheet on the XT07 and cant find what I am after.
Can someone help me out? Thanks
THe XT07 from tip to tip is 9.5 inches in length.
C4
Exactly what I needed - thanks C4
From the photos, it does appear that the bezel on the X300 is a little longer, but I have no problems with it in my duty holsters.
What holster you running? I am using a Safariland 6280 and thinking about upgrading to the 6360. I currently use the X200A on my Glock 22. I am seriously thinking about the X300.
What holster you running? I am using a Safariland 6280 and thinking about upgrading to the 6360. I currently use the X200A on my Glock 22. I am seriously thinking about the X300.
I use the Safariland 6280 for the Glock 21/20 and Surefire X200/X300. Had it initially when I had the X200, but the X300 fits perfectly.
As I noted in the G2 thread, we just started receiving our X300's-very impressive light; seems to have more throw than our G2L's, Scout Light's, and L4's.
Erick Gelhaus
11-22-07, 12:41
Doc-
Can / Will the 300 replace the 200As as a carbine light? From the descriptions so far, I'm imagining yes but I've yet to get a direct answer.
Erick
Doc-
Can / Will the 300 replace the 200As as a carbine light? From the descriptions so far, I'm imagining yes but I've yet to get a direct answer.
Erick
Yes. The increased power and the beam make it more handy for use on a Carbine than the X200. I still use my X200 on my home gun. But for my duty pistol and rifle the X300 is the way to go and exceeds my needs!
Erick Gelhaus
11-22-07, 13:58
ZG-
Copy & thank you.
Concur--I would not feel bad about running one on a SBR or other weapon for the 100 yd and in fight.
Concur--I would not feel bad about running one on a SBR or other weapon for the 100 yd and in fight.
Agree. I intend to put them on several different long guns as I feel that they do a very good job for what I need.
C4
Voodoochild
11-26-07, 21:03
When are u getting more in stock? I would like to get one with a pressure switch.
When are u getting more in stock? I would like to get one with a pressure switch.
That is a good question. I sold 15 of them in 2 days flat. :)
C4
Ok im a light idiot so please bear with me. what is the diffferences betweet this light and the TLR1? And what makes it better?
Ok im a light idiot so please bear with me. what is the diffferences betweet this light and the TLR1? And what makes it better?
The X300 puts out superior lumens for longer. Also better constructed and have many options for tape switches.
C4
I'm going to order an X300 soon...what's out there for duty holsters?
I've got a Glock 22 with a TLR 1 in a Safariland hood-type holster (not sure of the model #, but its the basic straight-drop, hard plastic w/hood) will an X300 fit it?
I'm going to order an X300 soon...what's out there for duty holsters?
I've got a Glock 22 with a TLR 1 in a Safariland hood-type holster (not sure of the model #, but its the basic straight-drop, hard plastic w/hood) will an X300 fit it?
Any Safariland holster set up for a pistol with the X200 will work with the X300. For the Glock 22/X200 (X300) setup I found the following model numbers:
Glock 22 with X200/X300: 6004-836, 6005-836, 6280-836, 6285-836
Glock 22 with X200/X300, TLR-1, SSL-1, etc.*: 6360-832, 6365-832, 6304-832, 6305-832, 6354-832, 6355-832
*Denotes holster that will secure pistol with light both attached and removed.
The full fit chart for pistols with lights is located here (http://www.safariland.com/info/willfit/pistols_dg_lights.pdf). I ordered my duty holsters, leather and nylon from CopQuest (http://www.copquest.com/23-1060.htm) and had no problem whatsoever. They had an extensive selection of holsters for a variety of mounted lights.
Voodoochild
11-30-07, 17:46
So grant I assume it will be a long wait for the 300's to get back in stock?
So grant I assume it will be a long wait for the 300's to get back in stock?
I hope not.
C4
Grant are you a Surefire dist?
Voodoochild
12-02-07, 14:28
Yes I believe he is.
Grant are you a Surefire dist?
SF does not have Distr.'s (only dealers). It is also illegal for a SF dealer to sell for another for resale purposes.
C4
SF does not have Distr.'s (only dealers). It is also illegal for a SF dealer to sell for another for resale purposes.
C4
Learn something new everyday.
NCPatrolAR
12-23-07, 15:18
Has anyone tried shining one through a vehicle windshield to see how well it lights up the interior of a vehicle at night? We are looking at going to these, but I want to make sure I wont have an issue with not being able to see inside of a vehicle when we do vehicle takedowns at night.
Give me a few minutes.
FYI my X300's seems to fit in all my X200 holsters - the slight added length is not an issue so far.
Does anyone have a pic they want to share of their X300 mounted on a AR15 carbine length HG with a VFG?
Thanks!
Has anyone tried shining one through a vehicle windshield to see how well it lights up the interior of a vehicle at night? We are looking at going to these, but I want to make sure I wont have an issue with not being able to see inside of a vehicle when we do vehicle takedowns at night.
NC, our shift changes goes in effect tomorrow and I am going back to Hoots thank god. If you still need it I can try and snap some pics of my X300 lighting a car. Get back to ya Sunday morning.
Has anyone tried shining one through a vehicle windshield to see how well it lights up the interior of a vehicle at night? We are looking at going to these, but I want to make sure I wont have an issue with not being able to see inside of a vehicle when we do vehicle takedowns at night.
Here you go.
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2602/x300mn0.jpg
NCPatrolAR
12-30-07, 02:16
Appreciate the picture. That looks like just the thing I was looking for. Guess it'll be a 300 being placed on my duty M&P next month. :D
THe XT07 from tip to tip is 9.5 inches in length.
C4
Grant, do you have any idea when the new XT07's will be in stock?
Appreciate the picture. That looks like just the thing I was looking for. Guess it'll be a 300 being placed on my duty M&P next month. :D
Good decision. The X300 will far exceed any expectations you have of it. I went out to some agricultural land in my area last night to try and snap some pics but my camera sucks. What I did notice that in a pitch black rural area you can illuminate objects far farther than you would expect with such a compact light. Was very impressive.
Grant, do you have any idea when the new XT07's will be in stock?
Nope, but I wish they would hurry up! :D
C4
Seems like I need to order a x300 soon. :D
Grant, what have you come up with for a 12 o'clock mounting solution, assuming the use of a standard FSB?
RAM Engineer
01-08-08, 00:12
Do the Surefire long gun backplates accept Insight Tech switches? I think the right angle plugs (as used on the M3X long gun model) would be more accomodating for a 12 oclock mount.
Great thread. I was thinking of getting either a Surefire M951XM07 or using my Blackhawk Gladius in a SF mount and attach it to my LMT MRP with a 10.5" barrel but they both seem "too big and out of place" on a short compact weapon. I also have a X200A and it seemed compact enough but the light output was so-so.
But then after reading this thread and another one on this forum ( https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=10389&highlight=x300 ), the X300 looks like the right light for me.
I had initially planned to mount it on the MRP's bottom rail and never really considered the top rail to be an option. I am running an Aimpoint ML3 on a Larue standard mount and I'm still waiting for my Troy front sight to arrive. If I mount the X300 right behind the Troy front sight, will the light beam clear the folded front sight? Does anyone have pics of a similar setup that I am planning? Thanks.
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I had initially planned to mount it on the MRP's bottom rail and never really considered the top rail to be an option. I am running an Aimpoint ML3 on a Larue standard mount and I'm still waiting for my Troy front sight to arrive. If I mount the X300 right behind the Troy front sight, will the light beam clear the folded front sight? Does anyone have pics of a similar setup that I am planning? Thanks.
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Allan,
Mounting the X300 behind a flip-up, fixed, or other front sight systems on the 12 o'clock rail will defeat any of the benefits of mounting a light at the 12 o'clock position. If you need your front sight, it will be directly in the way of your light, and if you need to illuminate something, the light will reflect off the front sight back into your face. If you need to remove the X300, you will first need to remove the front sight. Either find a way to mount the X300 in-front of the front sight, or mount it at the 6 o'clock position.
Robb Jensen
01-08-08, 07:50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/CQBR/cqbr006.jpg
I'm going to build up my 10" LMT very similarly to the Colt above that I assembled for a friend. When using the Aimpoint you can see just a tiny bit of the battery latch on the X200. When you go all the way down on the stock and align the sights none of the X200 is in the sight picture. It does give you essentially the sight radius of a 7.5" barrel, but it doesn't really matter since the sights are just there for backups anyway.
One of my guys showed me his new X300 tonight. I compared it to my X200B.
THE 300 BLOWS THE 200 AWAY.
I'm calling Grant up tomorrow to order one.
deserteaglexxx
01-13-08, 09:01
Grant can you give me a price on the x300. Thanks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/CQBR/cqbr006.jpg
What method are you using to activate the light at the 12:00 position?
Thanks
Jay Cunningham
01-13-08, 18:54
Looks to me like the support thumb would work just fine.
Support thumb is correct. Now that I have removed the Large nut and replaced it with smaller one, the toggle switch is easy to hit from either side. I had to cut way down on the clarity of this pic to upload it but click on the link and you should get the idea. My picture uploading skills blow so this link is the best I could manage. Maybe someone can fix it so you can see the pic without having to click on the link.
welchtactical
01-13-08, 22:44
Like to know the same thing.
Robb Jensen
01-16-08, 07:20
Support thumb is correct. Now that I have removed the Large nut and replaced it with smaller one, the toggle switch is easy to hit from either side. I had to cut way down on the clarity of this pic to upload it but click on the link and you should get the idea. My picture uploading skills blow so this link is the best I could manage. Maybe someone can fix it so you can see the pic without having to click on the link.
Rookie! ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/x300smallpicnotfine.jpg
Jay Cunningham
01-24-08, 16:20
X300's are in stock!!
C4
Order in.
:D
OK, dumb noobie here, and I don't have a gun in front of me to try the light on.
What's with the P and U mounts? Which one is for what?
Jay Cunningham
02-22-08, 17:25
P = Picatinny (AR's and M&P pistols)
U = Universal (think Glock rail)
So I can't use the same mount with both the Glock and the AR?
Damn.
I could not be happier with my X300, it blows away my X200!
Rob, you can use the "U" on both the Glock and the AR but there will be fore and aft movement on the rail since the "bar" on the "U" mount is not as thick in width as the "P" mount. So it works, just not perfect. Would make do in a pinch.
Patrick Aherne
02-23-08, 00:36
For home defense or SWAT stuff, it is my opinion that the X300 is the best combination of light and weight currently available. To the poster who asked why not a TLR-1 as compared to an X-300, quite simply, it's because the TLR-1 will most likely fail you when you need it and the X-300 will not.
After playing with one for the last week, I am sold.
As to the XT07 switch - forget about it. SF seems to come out with a few cool things you can't actually get. I reference DG switches, etc. Yeah, SF sucks in this regard. Get over it' buy an X-300 and learn to activate it with the stock switch - it's that good.
I surfed through the Glock picture thread and noticed that some of you are leaving the battery compartment retaining pin off on your X200/300.
I have a problem with mine as it (due to being a little loose and "standing up") sometimes interferes with re-holstering in a Raven concealment holster. I pushed the gun in with some force and the pin shaved some material off the holster and the light itself. I have duck taped the pin in the "down position" now and might leave it completely off. Have you encountered this problem too?
Derek_Connor
03-05-08, 18:35
So, is the DG-18 still the only option we 1911 users have for these lights? The SL18 isnt out in full force yet?
X300 is the way to go...:cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/DSC04563.jpg
Stretz Tactical Inc
04-06-08, 11:39
I just got the x300 and dg switch for my glock 22 and it is causing malfunctions. I have over 4,400 rounds through my duty glock 22 and never had a malfunction till I put the light on the gun. 6 fail to feeds in 78 rounds - ball and gold dot HP's. There is a warning about malfunctions with the light on glocks right in the users manual.
The manual references the light keeping the frame from flexing naturally under recoil, limp wristing, older mag springs with less coils and different ammuntion. Glock buyers beware. I also know several agencies who had too ditch their lights and holsters for the same reason. Glock and surefire were unable to give them a fix.
I just got the x300 and dg switch for my glock 22 and it is causing malfunctions. I have over 4,400 rounds through my duty glock 22 and never had a malfunction till I put the light on the gun. 6 fail to feeds in 78 rounds - ball and gold dot HP's. There is a warning about malfunctions with the light on glocks right in the users manual.
The manual references the light keeping the frame from flexing naturally under recoil, limp wristing, older mag springs with less coils and different ammuntion. Glock buyers beware. I also know several agencies who had too ditch their lights and holsters for the same reason. Glock and surefire were unable to give them a fix.
In my experience, this isn't so much of a Glock problem, but a .40 cal Glock problem. I've had an X200 or X300 on my Glock 17 for years now and never had a problem. I also never had a problem with the Glock 21 and a weapon mounted light.
Stretz Tactical Inc
04-06-08, 13:16
In my experience, this isn't so much of a Glock problem, but a .40 cal Glock problem. I've had an X200 or X300 on my Glock 17 for years now and never had a problem. I also never had a problem with the Glock 21 and a weapon mounted light.
I should have added that I have heard the same thing.
It is definitely not the lights fault. Glock .40s are notorious for having failures with lights mounted that the 9s just don't have.
It is definitely not the lights fault. Glock .40s are notorious for having failures with lights mounted that the 9s just don't have.
Is this a frame issue or an issue with the caliber itself? I have a buddy who converted his 23 to 9mm and wants a light, is this going to still be an issue?
Is this a frame issue or an issue with the caliber itself? I have a buddy who converted his 23 to 9mm and wants a light, is this going to still be an issue?
As far as I can tell nobody is reporting problems with the 9mm Glocks and lights. So it is a frame problem coupled with the caliber. I hope that answers your question, your buddy should be fine. There is a couple of current running threads on this issue on the 10-8 forum that you might want to read.
GLOCKMASTER
04-12-08, 19:32
I'm loving mine and so is my G 21 SF. I had a X200B however I have seen the light.:D
http://www.jesseshunting.com/photopost/data/500/medium/115_1520.JPG
I got a X300 today and I haven't used it in the dark yet but at first glance I like the beam of the 200B better indoors. Will play with them both in the dark shortly.
Ok, as usual I may end up being the lone dissenting voice as I am not going to go nuts over the newest latest and greatest thing introduced. After playing with the 200B and the 300 in the house I really prefer my old 200B for the wide angle throw it has. Do I think the 300 is brighter? Maybe a little but not much. One thing I did notice is the 300 has more of an incandesant yellow color to the beam which could possibly make it much better outside in less than crystal clear conditions.
??? I don't recall anyone else mentioning the different color beams between the 2, maybe I need to see if the new batteries need changing already.
I got a X300 today and I haven't used it in the dark yet but at first glance I like the beam of the 200B better indoors. Will play with them both in the dark shortly.
Ok, as usual I may end up being the lone dissenting voice as I am not going to go nuts over the newest latest and greatest thing introduced. After playing with the 200B and the 300 in the house I really prefer my old 200B for the wide angle throw it has. Do I think the 300 is brighter? Maybe a little but not much. One thing I did notice is the 300 has more of an incandesant yellow color to the beam which could possibly make it much better outside in less than crystal clear conditions.
??? I don't recall anyone else mentioning the different color beams between the 2, maybe I need to see if the new batteries need changing already.
I just received my second X300 today, I've got one for my bedside XD and this one for my carbine; and there is a very, very noticeable difference in color between the new and the old. This new one seems very yellow in color with respect to my first X300 (which is a very pure white), and even compared to my TLR-1. I'll get some pics up in the morning...does anyone else have any input on this topic?
WOW, I'm not nuts afterall.
These aren't the greatest pics in the world, sorry I'm not a photographer...but I think you can still see a difference:
From Left to Right: New X300, Old X300, Streamlight TLR-1 (only in 2nd picture) Lights are shining on to a white wall approx. 4' away
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q116/bridoyal/100_1058.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q116/bridoyal/100_1059.jpg
To the poster who asked why not a TLR-1 as compared to an X-300, quite simply, it's because the TLR-1 will most likely fail you when you need it and the X-300 will not.
Any evidence or experience of TLR-1 failures?
I mean no disrespect. I'm just trying to decide between buying one X300 vs. two TLR-1's. I'd rather have one working X300 vs. two battery storage devices.
Out of quite a few, I have only seen one TLR1 break. The odds are better than the M3 (which I also had decent luck with, FWIW) because it is built a lot more sturdy and doesn't use the chincy little buld the M3 series did. They honored the warranty of the broken one also and sent a replacement ASAP. They seem to work well, except I don't like their mount too much and would worry about it working loose.
I stick to Surefire lights as a personal preference for my own guns.
I picked up a X300 the other day for my G19 and put 130 rounds through it and noticed the obvious wear on top of the light. I haven't messed with it much to see if it's burned or it's just carbon that's caked on. Is this normal wear or am I just being to anal about it? I realize the light is designed to be used like this, but it's my first light and I just wanted to make sure I'm not paranoid.
NCPatrolAR
05-03-08, 16:38
I picked up a X300 the other day for my G19 and put 130 rounds through it and noticed the obvious wear on top of the light. I haven't messed with it much to see if it's burned or it's just carbon that's caked on. Is this normal wear or am I just being to anal about it? I realize the light is designed to be used like this, but it's my first light and I just wanted to make sure I'm not paranoid.
Its normal and you will see it occurr with most lights on pistols sized similar to the G19. Just make sure you dont let the carbon on the lens harden too much. Its a bear to remove once its been on there a while
Its normal and you will see it occurr with most lights on pistols sized similar to the G19. Just make sure you dont let the carbon on the lens harden too much. Its a bear to remove once its been on there a while
Thanks, I just made a thread about this, figured this one was pretty much dead. I got it off the lense, it's just on the top of the bezel where it gets the blast. But there's people putting it through much more than me, so I can't complain, just didn't want it to cake on if it was cleanable with some work.
Lone_Ranger
12-10-11, 15:25
Anybody having issues with their X300 being extremely tight, when you first get it?
I swapped out the (U) hardware for the (P) hardware, and mounted it on the rails of my AR. It's almost a 2 person operation to get it on, and off. I've seen YouTube videos, and the light slides on and off easily.
One thing is for sure. It's on there nice and solid! There's no play, and it doesn't rattle. It could stay on there permanently, except that the battery cover doesn't open far enough to replace the batteries, while the light is mounted.
EzGoingKev
12-10-11, 16:14
Mine was super tight when I first got it but once I had it on and off a few times it was fine.
Anybody having issues with their X300 being extremely tight, when you first get it?
I swapped out the (U) hardware for the (P) hardware, and mounted it on the rails of my AR. It's almost a 2 person operation to get it on, and off. I've seen YouTube videos, and the light slides on and off easily.
One thing is for sure. It's on there nice and solid! There's no play, and it doesn't rattle. It could stay on there permanently, except that the battery cover doesn't open far enough to replace the batteries, while the light is mounted.
I had the opposite problem with my X300 on a Glock 22. There was a little bit of play when it was mounted. I took the screws (6 of them I think) out that hold the mounting rails onto the light, added blue loctite and while I tightened the screws I applied inward pressure to the mounting rails as I tightened the screws. The light fit much tighter after that. There is enough play to allow for a slight adjustment that might make it easier to get on and off your rail.
I hope this explanation was clear enough.
Anybody having issues with their X300 being extremely tight, when you first get it?
I swapped out the (U) hardware for the (P) hardware, and mounted it on the rails of my AR. It's almost a 2 person operation to get it on, and off. I've seen YouTube videos, and the light slides on and off easily.
One thing is for sure. It's on there nice and solid! There's no play, and it doesn't rattle. It could stay on there permanently, except that the battery cover doesn't open far enough to replace the batteries, while the light is mounted.
This is typical of Surefire products in my experience. Tight mounts and hard switches but after a break in period its fine.
-Jax
My X300 was tight on the M&P .45...a little extra oomph and it's fine. It loosened up a little over time, but it still fits well.
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