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jrhumphrey16@yahoo.com
09-11-07, 22:52
witch is a better rifle the bushy m4a3 or a colt 6920? because i am going to buy a new rifle and i cant pick one.
Assuming this isn't a troll post (these discussions rarely go well), you should read this thread: Comparison of Major Brands (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642)
bushmasterar15
09-12-07, 02:46
It's a personal choice. Choose what is better for you. I've owned both and personally considered them both fine weapons.
BushmasterFanBoy
09-12-07, 03:09
The BM isn't up to the same specs as Colt, but that doesn't mean you should pay what most people are asking for a 6920. Buy some other brand with the same high quality specs as the Colt, but at a lower price.
Here is a good place to start: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7235
For what its worth, I used to be a BM fanboy (hence the screen name) but I'm going to tell you right now: DO NOT GET THE BUSHMASTER, not because it won't work, but because there are better options for the same money, its a fine rifle, but why pay the same $$$$ for a product with less quality control, even if they are usually fine? Spend the same money elsewhere, and you get a rifle made to better specs and better quality control for the EXACT same amount of money.
Army Chief
09-12-07, 07:03
Before this gets silly (and needlessly confrontational), let's just make the easy call here and say that, if you have the money to get a Colt, then there isn't any reason to ask the other half of your question.
Chief
Wayne Dobbs
09-12-07, 08:47
The search function is your friend....use it.
Hello,
Sadly, the Bushmaster's that I've seen lately have been ruffer than a night in jail.
True, any maker can & has let some bad ones out the door, but, the NIB Bushmaster I saw the other day took the cake. Excluding all the usual stuff, this weapon came from the Factory with the take down pin only about 2/3rds of the way installed and was literally Frozen in place, the shop owner had to drive the pin out with a hammer & punch, and then had to drive it back into place (he fully seated the pin) then we tried with all our might to remove the pin the normal way (finger pressure) with-out success, then he said Ahhh, it's got too much Parkerizing and he beat it out again, and then beat it back in again while at the same time he was assuring me that it's really "just as good as"... a Colt. This Bushmaster also looked like it had been finished with a wrinkle finish paint (now I know the finish doesn't dictate how it'll run... or not) but for the price their bringing, No Thanks!
Take Care.
I bought a BM about 6 years ago haven't had any problems with it except for the gas key (staked it no prob since), But a friend of mine bought a new BM just about a month ago and it doesn't even feel like the same class rifle. The "fit and finish" (had to throw that in :D ) are ruff and loose, and I see now what you guys are talking about with the alignment of the front sight. If that's the quality of the new bushmasters I didn't get just a good one, I got a excellent one. Id put my money on the Colt.
The "fit and finish" (had to throw that in :D ) are ruff and loose
I read "fit and finish" like 6 times in the last edition of "The Book of the AR-15". As stupid as that is, I still have to buy the magazine for the gun porn.
As stupid as that is, I still have to buy the magazine for the gun porn.
I'm guilty too
AR15barrels
09-12-07, 12:58
I read "fit and finish" like 6 times in the last edition of "The Book of the AR-15". As stupid as that is, I still have to buy the magazine for the gun porn.
Yeaaaaah, markm is back!
LIL-COMMANDO
09-12-07, 13:16
Go for the Colt all the way. That is what I trust for Duty and it has a better resale value in the long run.:D If you decide not to get a Colt then the next best is the LMT and they do sell complete rifles to LEO.
Yeaaaaah, markm is back!
They had to start a new site to get it done!:D
The 6920 is considered the top dog,but it is pricey. the Bushy is a good weapon but the fact is the Colt 6920 is better. both will do the job . I would say if you can afford $1300.00 get the 6920. the bushy should be $850.00 . you may also want to look at the ADS that C4 GRANT has at $820.00. or you could get a LMT upper at $600.00 inc the BCG,and a Stag lower with M4 stock for 250.00 and push in 2 pins and bingo M4 . you will need a Arms 40 BUS at 109.00 also . that ADS is looking better all the time . people covet the Colt so at resale time they bring all the money. also the poney roll mark will be a braging point . check with Grant on the ADS B4 you buy the Bushy .
It's a personal choice. Choose what is better for you. I've owned both and personally considered them both fine weapons.
What's your intended use of the rifle gonna be?
COLT > LMT > ADS - I wouldn't consider anything else if I was buying a complete rifle.
Well the Noveske N4 as well but it was not mentioned in the original question.;)
Robb Jensen
09-12-07, 20:09
COLT > LMT > ADS - I wouldn't consider anything else if I was buying a complete rifle.
Well the Noveske N4 as well but it was not mentioned in the original question.;)
Take a look at some Sabre Defence rifles.
Submariner
09-12-07, 20:21
What's your intended use of the rifle gonna be?
The REAL question. And can you afford ammunition and training for whatever you choose?
What Submariner said. Plinking,3-gun/competition,or full blown my life depends on it trainig. The ammo count increases with type of use.
witch is a better rifle the bushy m4a3 or a colt 6920? because i am going to buy a new rifle and i cant pick one.
How often do you shoot?
What is your overall plan for the weapon?
How much are you able to spend?
CarlosDJackal
09-12-07, 22:11
If money is not an issue, get the Colt. Keep in mind that I am not a big fan of Colt and thata I do own no less than 3 BM AR-15s.
I'll caveat this by stating that my last AR was an SBR I build out of an RRA lower and an LMT upper. If given the choice between buying a BM, Colt, or building another rifle using the mentioned components; I'd rather build another one. JM2CW.
Seth Harness
09-13-07, 06:13
witch is a better rifle the bushy m4a3 or a colt 6920? because i am going to buy a new rifle and i cant pick one.
If its any consolation I wouldnt pick either, but if it has to be one of those I would say colt.
Wayne Dobbs
09-13-07, 10:24
If you buy cheap, you get to cry (and buy) TWICE...
It's NEVER a good idea to economize on purchases that your life may depend upon. It's also a good idea to consider how long you will actually use the item in years and then divide the price by the time to see what the actual cost is over time. You almost ALWAYS find that buying quality and dependability costs very little more.
For example, let's say our BM M4gery is $850 out the door and has a useful service life of five years of hard training use before it shits the sheets (and that's optimistic in most cases). The gun costs us $170 per year in raw weapon's cost.
If we choke up and pay $1300 for a Colt 6920 and we can get ten years of service at the same level of use, the gun costs us only $130 per year and we get longer service.
Those are obviously theoretical examples but you should be able to see the advantage of saving a bit longer and getting what you really want and need instead of buying something that may (and likely will) disappoint at some level.
That....
and in all the years I've been on AR related gun boards, I've never read someone post that they wish they had purchased a lesser rifle. No one ever regrets buying good gear.
...sits back and grabs the popcorn.
;p
jrhumphrey16@yahoo.com
09-14-07, 11:56
How old are you?
iam 21 years old
toddackerman
09-14-07, 16:31
It's a personal choice. Choose what is better for you. I've owned both and personally considered them both fine weapons.
I have a Bushy lower from 7 years ago that I have mated to an LMT MRP Upper. It's been an excellet lower. Back then, as you'll see if you read enough threads here that most, including me think that the Bushmaster quality has slipped somewhat over the last few years.
Those who have had both Colt and Bushy tend to state that the quality of Colt is superior to the quality of Bushmaster "Today".
IMHO....Do some more research, get some more "Informed" opinions...and go for it.
Tack
Canonshooter
09-22-07, 11:19
I have a Bushy lower from 7 years ago that I have mated to an LMT MRP Upper. It's been an excellet lower. Back then, as you'll see if you read enough threads here that most, including me think that the Bushmaster quality has slipped somewhat over the last few years.
Those who have had both Colt and Bushy tend to state that the quality of Colt is superior to the quality of Bushmaster "Today".
I have owned one Colt (a long time ago before the AWB) and one BM that I assembled from a locally-purchased lower and a "M4" upper direct from BM a few years ago. Luckily my BM does not suffer from the poor fit and finish issues metioned above and has thus far proven to be accurate and reliable. That said, with all of the quality vendors now in the AR business and the apparent recent slide in BM quality control, I will probably opt for something other for my next purchase. But my current BM M4gery is a definite keeper (100 yard target shown below).
http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/M4-2.jpg
As my bro Matt E, AKA Top, is known to have said: "You have have the 'as good as' or you can have the 'as'".
Canonshooter
09-23-07, 07:22
As my bro Matt E, AKA Top, is known to have said: "You have have the 'as good as' or you can have the 'as'".
One of the Colts I owned a long time ago was their 7.62X39 carbine which I purchased new on a whim and sold all long before the AWB. Magazines were problematic with that rifle but once I move to NH in the next few months, I'm inclined to buy a 6920 and hold on to the BM for more informal purposes;
http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/Em&M4-1.jpg
My daughter Emily "behind the wheel" of the BM M4gery (yes, she was wearing eye protection during the actual shooting except for this poser shot).
In that price range my first choice would be a Noveske N4. I've seen good Colts and Bushmaster, but would likely choose the Colt if I was limited to those two. Other good choices to consider, in my opinion, are Sabre Defense, Stag/CMT, LMT, Bravo Company. You'll get lots of opinions pro & con for any brand you mention - good luck!
FWIW: a very good friend of mine has many choices in his toy room, including Colt. His primary weapon is a select-fire Bushmaster lower with a 'frankengun' upper. Understand, that he built the upper out of quality parts, knows what makes these tick and performs regular maintenance accordingly. He shoots everything through it including the often maligned steel cased Wolf. I've shot it and witnessed tens of thousands of rounds sent downrange. It flat runs! YMMV
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