Pre ban ar magazines

[gunguy98]

I know this has been asked before but I need some pre ban ar magazines, specifically the 30 rounders. I live in crappy Western NY and can only have preban hi-cap mags.
That means mags made before Sept '94
My local and only gun shop that sells them gets freaking $65 for a single mag....talk about being raped! I will not pay that price for a single mag when I know I can get 3, 4 or more mags for the same price.
So if anyone here is willing to sell to me or you know of a website that has them and will ship them to NY please let me know. I'm really in need, all I have is a single 10rnd mag that came with the rifle and that will not cut it.
Thanks.

[Miroku]

I live in Western New York as well, and I was just thinking about where I could find some pre-ban mags myself, although I prefer the 20-rounders. At least we won't be competing.

[Icculus]

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=65023

Yes I realize this EE ad is from October of last year but as it's not marked sold you might try contacting the seller and see if they can help you out. Just a thought

[gunguy98]

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=65023

Yes I realize this EE ad is from October of last year but as it's not marked sold you might try contacting the seller and see if they can help you out. Just a thought

Thanks, I already did. I'm waiting to hear back. but am open to all suggestions....I'm hoping someone can help a fellow shooter out stuck in a socialist state for at least the next 3 years or so.

[Stuntridef4i]

Haha looks like us New Yorker's are all in search of some pre bans. I'll let you know if I come across anything.

[m1a_scoutguy]

Hey there NYer !!! I feel your pain.:( There was some talk about Pre-Ban mags awhile back here and there were some Links to websites that had Pre-Ban mags NIW,,,,,I'll look around and see if I can find them !! I have actually bought a bunch of Pre-Bans off here,,but ya gotta watch and move faaaaaast !!! ;) I lucked out on a few and missed out on a few ! Hate to bring it up,,but there is normally alot of guys with Pre-Bans over at T.O.S,:eek: I was just over there and there are a few floating around ! If all else fails,,drop me a PM,,I mite be able to help ya out ! ;)

[mowmer]

Well I just moved out of NY several months ago and have 20 or so 30 round ar mags. All purchased from NY gun stores and are all pre-ban. I'm not a ar-15 magazine expert, but they are aluminium GI mags with some England and orlite made ones. Might be willing to sell them back to you NY guys. I payed 30 bucks apiece for them, but I think I can go cheaper, what do you guys think would be a fair price for them?

[warpigM-4]

I have 3 mags That I got somewhere? They have NO markings or Dates or Manufacturer Markings So I would think these are Pre-ban .

two lock up in my Colt lower fine and one does Not, I think the mag lock Holes needed to be filed a little to get a positive lock .I have never used these and the springs are tight and feed lips look good.

if you want them and I don't get in any trouble for mailing them to you (what are the laws there about receiving Mags in the mail?) they are yours for the Low price Of FREE:D I use Pmags so these just sit around collecting dust Look them over and tell me if you want them.Like I said you might have to do a little work to Make them lock up right PM me with your info

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

I live south of Rochester NY my guns are all pre ban and I am making the switch to PMAGS. I have 21 unmarked 20 round mags various manufacture I'm willing to part with.

I also have 13 mags with no date code but stamped Le/mil use only

And 30 mags that are marked between 03, 04 ,06 and 07 PM me if your interested

[warpigM-4]

I also have 13 mags with no date code but stamped mil/gov use only

And 30 mags that are marked between 03, 04 ,06 and 07 PM me if your interested

I would think with these markings(Gov and Mil use only) and dates would be a No Go in a ban state. don't they have to be unmarked and made before 94??

[Stuntridef4i]

From what I read we can not have any mag that is labeled gov/military use. Maybe someone else knows different. I sent you a pm war pig. Thanks

[Spiffums]

I have 3 mags That I got somewhere? They have NO markings or Dates or Manufacturer Markings So I would think these are Pre-ban .





I have some like these that I got well after the ban took effect at my LGS. If I recall correctly he said they were pre ban over run for a mag order for Israel.

[warpigM-4]

I have some like these that I got well after the ban took effect at my LGS. If I recall correctly he said they were pre ban over run for a mag order for Israel.
Thanks for the Info



From what I read we can not have any mag that is labeled gov/military use. Maybe someone else knows different. I sent you a pm war pig. Thanks

Sorry GunGuy98 Got to me first But i will keep a look out for you .I think I can get a few from some Buddies of Mine I'll Try and help you out!!



I know this has been asked before but I need some pre ban ar magazines, specifically the 30 rounders. I live in crappy Western NY and can only have preban hi-cap mags.
That means mags made before Sept '94

Thanks.
Headed to the Post office !!!You should get them This week i hope:cool:

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

I would think with these markings(Gov and Mil use only) and dates would be a No Go in a ban state. don't they have to be unmarked and made before 94??

Not sure to be honest I think their fine in pre ban guns

[GunnutAF]

From what I gather unless you can prove the mag was manufactured on or before the date 13 Sept 94 you can't own it! So if the magazine is not marked as such -with a date of manufacture pre 13 Sept 94 it would be illegal!

Part NYS assualt weapons ban law:
23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September
thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include
an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating
only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.


I have 3 Pre-ban Cooper Industry 30 rounders all are marked with DOM 030389! :rolleyes: I also think there is other laws out there that stop the import of such as well! So you can't even buy them and have them sent to you!

[DMR]

I live south of Rochester NY my guns are all pre ban and I am making the switch to PMAGS.


Go to the post office and mail those things to friends and family out of state. Post Ban mags are classified as "high capacity feeding devices" and a class something something felony for EACH mag. if you have not placed your PMAG order, consider crossing them off your list:mad:

Fulton Armory has some pre-ban Orlites right now though:(

[gunguy98]

I live south of Rochester NY my guns are all pre ban and I am making the switch to PMAGS. I have 21 unmarked 20 round mags various manufacture I'm willing to part with.

I also have 13 mags with no date code but stamped Le/mil use only

And 30 mags that are marked between 03, 04 ,06 and 07 PM me if your interested

Aren't those the year s stamped on those mags? if they are then they are post ban and illegal here. I also believe the PMAGS are too.

[gunguy98]

From what I gather unless you can prove the mag was manufactured on or before the date 13 Sept 94 you can't own it! So if the magazine is not marked as such -with a date of manufacture pre 13 Sept 94 it would be illegal!

Part NYS assualt weapons ban law:
23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September
thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include
an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating
only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.


I have 3 Pre-ban Cooper Industry 30 rounders all are marked with DOM 030389! :rolleyes: I also think there is other laws out there that stop the import of such as well! So you can't even buy them and have them sent to you!

The state has to prove that magazines that are in your possession are illegal and any with an obvious date stamp after the ban are along with almost all of the new polymer mags. Around here most of the preban mags you see for sale are lacking the date stamps and markings. These mags less markings are considered to be pre ban.

[lt211]

I live south of Rochester NY my guns are all pre ban and I am making the switch to PMAGS. I have 21 unmarked 20 round mags various manufacture I'm willing to part with.

I also have 13 mags with no date code but stamped Le/mil use only

And 30 mags that are marked between 03, 04 ,06 and 07 PM me if your interested
Let me clarify this for you because I don’t think you understand the law in NY regarding high capacity magazines. Mere possession is a D Felony, doesn’t matter if it’s in a pre ban riffle or in a bag with no gun:

§ 265.00 Definitions. 23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include
an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rim fire ammunition.
§ 265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree when: (fast forward sub 8) such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D
Felony.

Also no date means nothing, You either need a date on the mag prior to Sept 14, 1994 or a way to show its pre ban. Be carful with this stuff, conviction fo a felony means your not aloud to have a gun...
§ 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree when: (foward to sub 4) He possesses a rifle or shotgun and has been convicted of a felony or serious offense; (Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor). Trust me on this, I know this section of the law in NY.

[gunguy98]

Let me clarify this for you because I don’t think you understand the law in NY regarding high capacity magazines. Mere possession is a D Felony, doesn’t matter if it’s in a pre ban riffle or in a bag with no gun:

§ 265.00 Definitions. 23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include
an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rim fire ammunition.
§ 265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree when: (fast forward sub 8) such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D
Felony.

Also no date means nothing, You either need a date on the mag prior to Sept 14, 1994 or a way to show its pre ban. Be carful with this stuff, conviction fo a felony means your not aloud to have a gun...
§ 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree when: (foward to sub 4) He possesses a rifle or shotgun and has been convicted of a felony or serious offense; (Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor). Trust me on this, I know this section of the law in NY.

a good many mags made before Sept '94 have no date stamp on them, there is no way to prove they are pre ban, that's why even in NY the all metal GI looking mags that have no date stamps are considered pre ban.

[sjc3081]

I have New Colt Preban 30s PM or email my for details.

[lt211]

a good many mags made before Sept '94 have no date stamp on them, there is no way to prove they are pre ban, that's why even in NY the all metal GI looking mags that have no date stamps are considered pre ban.

Soooo not true.

[nowayout]

Pmags are no good. Pre ban or post ban rifle.

The magazine itself has to be pre ban.

[gunguy98]

Soooo not true.

Please enlighten me, and I don't mean that in a mean way, I really would like to know.
Now I know that not all non marked mags are pre ban but the vast majority are, and those are to be considered as such.

[lt211]

Please enlighten me, and I don't mean that in a mean way, I really would like to know.
Now I know that not all non marked mags are pre ban but the vast majority are, and those are to be considered as such.

Aside from Colt, I believe that most new mags are not dated. The dealers and such can chime in on that one. I am only speaking from my experience. I know where I work in NY you would be charged unless its dated pre Sept 14, 1994 or you have something showing its pre ban and they give you the opportunity.

[gunguy98]

Aside from Colt, I believe that most new mags are not dated. The dealers and such can chime in on that one. I am only speaking from my experience. I know where I work in NY you would be charged unless its dated pre Sept 14, 1994 or you have something showing its pre ban and they give you the opportunity.

If you live anywhere NYC then I can understand that, but up here in Western NY there doesn't seem to be that issue. Unless it's in the city limits of Rochester or Buffalo, those cities have their own laws too but it doesn't extend to the suburbs. Now most of the mags I've run across at gun shows and the odd gun store weren't marked and they're being sold out in the open, I've never had an AR before and I didn't have a need to pick up the mags when I could, now I'm scrambling to pick up a supply, legally of course.

[gunguy98]

I have New Colt Preban 30s PM or email my for details.

PM sent

[lt211]

I just suggest you use caution. I like the pre ban Colt mags because it’s easier to show; the change of names on the floor plates and I believe all Colt AR mags produced after the ban were and are still dated. I also heard NY State is looking at the sale of these mags at gun shows (dealers not the possessors) and such. Most law abiding citizens aren’t going to have a problem because you’re going to be discrete and use them lawfully however I wouldn’t want to have them in plain view at let’s say a car stop or an incident in your house and take the litmus test. Just my expert and honost opinion:no:.

[lt211]

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[Beat Trash]

I have about 7 or 8 preban 30 rd mags in good shape. I'd take $12.50 each for them if you're interested (the price of a PMAG). PM or email if interested.

[hals1]

I have 24 Colt pre-ban 20 rounders. I know they are pre-ban because they are stamped "Caliber .223". Air Force mags made before 1968. After that they were marked 5.56.
They all have painted bottoms. The Air Force used to do that for some kind of ID or inventory tracking or something. Just a light coat of spray paint.
I haven't used any of them, just picked them up at a gun show before I knew about PMags and Lancers.
Anybody interested drop me a PM. Six will stuff into a small Priority Mail box.
Fulton Armory has a page on AR-15 magazines: http://fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs%5CAR-FAQs%5CARMags.htm
Mine are the ones in the fifth paragraph. I can let them go for the price of PMags or a little less.

[ZRH]

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[lt211]

http://www.kyimports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7_15&products_id=30
I picked up 10 of these at $22.99 each. I think you can find them a little cheaper else where but the CS was great at this place.
The receipt says pre ban, I would make a bunch of copies and keep them with the mags just in case.

[gunguy98]

Thanks everyone for the help and offers.