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Hello!!!
I have been thinking about getting a suppressor for my AR's.
I have been looking into several, but the YHM Phantom has a very attractive price point.
I have very little experience with sound suppressors; I have shot a friend's AR with a Gemtech G5 on it which was OUTSTANDING to shoot, I also especially liked the ease with which it went on and off the rifle. It is an expensive suppressor though.
My main question is should I wait and save up for one of the more expensive cans such as the Gemtech or is the YHM just as good?
Thanks!!!
Abdon
I'd take the YHM over the G5 any day. Make sure you get the Newer Stainless model though.
Another option is to find a dealer in your area with an M4-1000. They are 550 dollars and are functionally similar to the YHM in fast attach, but probably more durable.
DON'T, however order any can. Especially from AAC. I'm on my third month of waiting for my m4-1000. My paperwork is already approved and everything. Not to slam AAC by any means, but the only way I'd buy one of their cans again is if a dealer had it in stock. It takes too long if you have your dealer order it.
I would wait and save and buy AAC M4-1000 or M4-2000. Yes I would agree find a STOCKING dealer in the state. Right now the BATF wait is 5 - 7 weeks and as the end of the year roles around it will become longer. Remember buying two cans of the same caliber because the first one just doesn't make the grade is really exspensive, so buy the best one you can
CarlosDJackal
09-23-07, 21:21
FWIW, after doing some research and thinking about it for while; I finally decided to go ahead and have my dealer order the YHM Stainless Phantom. I should have it in my grubby little hands by the end of October or sometime in November.
M4-1000 or YHM Phantom Q/D.
No question they are the two best values in 5.56 suppressors.
I also looked at the YHM 5.56 but I thought that it was a little heavy and the sound level was not what I wanted. Yes, I was able to hear both. My dealer could order the YHM but had a AAC M4-1000 on hand and waiting for me like a bride on her wedding night
My dealer could order the YHM but had a AAC M4-1000 on hand and waiting for me like a bride on her wedding night
Nice!
I ordered mine 3 month ago. I'll be thrilled if I have it in my hands within another month.
Here's the thing. If you ever find a dealer with an AAC in stock, BUY IT! It won't be there a day or two later.
Well, theres a dealer locally who has several cans in the store, they have a Gemtech G5 and an AAC m4-2000.
Both cans are in the $800 + range. They do not carry YHM cans.
Not sure if, after what I am hearing, I should just "take the plunge" and get one of the more expensive cans....
Abdon
Wow! The dealer I used only had a Tac-16 in stock at the time. :(
I passed on an AAC ranger, then went back 2 days later and it wasn't available. Since I had to order one, I went with a fast attach.
M4-1000 or YHM Phantom Q/D.
No question they are the two best values in 5.56 suppressors.
^ Ditto.
The M4-1000 has a slight advantage if you are sensitive to weight. Both offer about the same suppression for the $ spent, either one would be a good choice. I like the mounting system on the YHM, simple and effective. A bit bulky looking on the rifle if your into tacticool, but once the suppressor is mounted it's all business.
http://www.hallmarksmallarms.com/images/Alex/Alex%20from%20HSA%20and%20Vector%20V53%20and%20YHM%20Phantom%20Suppressor%20-%20low%20rez-2.jpg
Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
Voodoochild
09-24-07, 18:17
Damn Steve glad to see around these parts.
I got my M4-1000 for 500.00 plus state tax so it comes out to be 560.00 plus the stamp. I would check out what your dealer charges for a transfere to him if it is 50.00 give Mark at Polite Society a call (678) 662-9395, great guy, they have m4-1000 in stock. Now saying that if your dealer would try and take you to the cross by charging say 100.00 to do a transfer do yourself a favor look for another dealer. If you live in Florida these are some dealer of AAC cans. By the way there are better cans out there other than AAC but for the money I couldn't find one. No I don't work for AAC or any other company I just like AAC/ GMC trucks and my 1911 by Springfield.:)
Florida
A&G Firearms Ocala (352) 572-0427
Burney Ratliff Live Oak (386) 362-1274
Florida Gun Exchange Port Orange (386) 304-9499
Heavy Metal Armory Bradenton (941) 741-8282
LRM Custom Firearms Tallahassee (850) 877-9815
Mor-Guns Panama City (850) 785-6250
Only The Best Pompano Bch. (954) 545-1321
PAR Firearms West Palm Bch. (561) 683-6042
Pickett Weaponry Newberry (352) 472-4876
Neil Schoonderwood Ft. Meyers (239) 462-9207
SRD Melbourne (321) 722-4797
SRT Supply St. Petersburg (727) 526-5451
Walker High Energy Bradenton (941) 713-2483
I also looked at the YHM 5.56 but I thought that it was a little heavy and the sound level was not what I wanted. Yes, I was able to hear both. My dealer could order the YHM but had a AAC M4-1000 on hand and waiting for me like a bride on her wedding night
This is why it's critical to try and have a live fire demo BEFORE you buy a suppressor.
Having heard my '06 M4-2000 shot side-by-side with a YHM Phantom, they were very very close to my, and everyone else's ears.
From what I recall, they even meter fairly closely...
ETA: Looking at Rob Silver's old testing, he had the YHM Phantom @ 134 dB suppressed and the M4-2000 @ 134.3 & 135.8. The M4-1000 is supposedly indentical in baffle design, so it stands to reason it would meter similarly...
In the end, it's what your ear likes that matters though. If you are happy with the M4-1000, then we're happy for you.
It's a really nice suppressor @ $500ish.
I got my M4-1000 for 500.00 plus state tax so it comes out to be 560.00 plus the stamp. I would check out what your dealer charges for a transfere to him if it is 50.00 give Mark at Polite Society a call (678) 662-9395, great guy, they have m4-1000 in stock. Now saying that if your dealer would try and take you to the cross by charging say 100.00 to do a transfer do yourself a favor look for another dealer. If you live in Florida these are some dealer of AAC cans. By the way there are better cans out there other than AAC but for the money I couldn't find one. No I don't work for AAC or any other company I just like AAC/ GMC trucks and my 1911 by Springfield.:)
Florida
A&G Firearms Ocala (352) 572-0427
Burney Ratliff Live Oak (386) 362-1274
Florida Gun Exchange Port Orange (386) 304-9499
Heavy Metal Armory Bradenton (941) 741-8282
LRM Custom Firearms Tallahassee (850) 877-9815
Mor-Guns Panama City (850) 785-6250
Only The Best Pompano Bch. (954) 545-1321
PAR Firearms West Palm Bch. (561) 683-6042
Pickett Weaponry Newberry (352) 472-4876
Neil Schoonderwood Ft. Meyers (239) 462-9207
SRD Melbourne (321) 722-4797
SRT Supply St. Petersburg (727) 526-5451
Walker High Energy Bradenton (941) 713-2483
Great guy to deal with, but I'm pretty sure he is out of the game now.
I just pulled those off of AAC web page, sorry for the confusion wanted the gentleman to realize that Florida has a large amount of dealers and should not limit himself to his local dealer if he is not a stocking dealer of the item he wants.
You don't even have to stick to Florida. A Form 3 between dealers can be done in quick time....
Find a suppressor you want in stock, if you can help it.
I often get suppressors sent in from out of state to save delivery time.
SHIVAN,
I have talked to a couple of dealers about that and have not had a good feeling. Spoke to one in Texas he said he would ship it to me but would have to charge me an extra 75.00 to do it, and my dealer was going to charge me 50.00. I told the guy in Texas he was on crack and to keep his can. Had one that told me that I would have to send the money to him to do a form 4 to my dealer, I asked him wasn't the can on a form 3 he said ya but to transfer it to my dealer it would go on a form 4. Said thank not so much. I don't deal with people who don't tell the truth. I think he just wanted to make an extra 200.00 of the kid. Because I know for a fact that it does not cost a thing to transfer dealer to dealer, it is just a paperwork drill.
I agree, keatsabn!
Finding ONE Class 3 dealer (or ffl for that matter) who doesn't have his head up his ass or who is willing to do anything extra without for a customer with out being nagged is hard.... let alone 2!
I hate bugging someone for a transfer... I know it's not the core of their business.
Wow, then we here in Virginia are blessed. All the Title II dealers I have come in contact with are great to deal with....
The out of state end of the deal is usually a "high volume" dealer who specializes.
At this point, you should try G&R Tactical first -- to test his new inventory of Title II stuff. :p
Failing there, I'd try Mark @ Polite Society, Harlan @ Frederick County Firearms, Steve @ ADCO, Henry @ Title II Arms, etc, etc, etc....
Wow, then we here in Virginia are blessed.
Must be! Some of the dealers in AZ are nice, but still Flakes! Many some are very questionable. The Armory here in AZ was the only positive dealer experience I've ever had, but they're now Scottsdale Gun Club, and I don't know if they still offer super service or what.
We have at least two good Class III dealers in SE Florida that I've dealt with. One is Only the Best Firearms (which tends to have high prices and underlings with attitude problems) owned by Vito, who is a great guy and easy to deal with. The other is a local attorney, who happened to draft up my trust, who has done all of my transfers and purchases for me. It's nice to just email him, tell him what I want, wait for it to arrive, and then go to his office and do the transaction like a civilized person. In fact, he now does all of my non-Class III transfers too.
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