308 AR scope mount

[Spiffums]

What is a good mount for an AR in 308. It wont be going to war or anything and doesn't need to be QD. I am thinking LaRue SPR mount but that is really the only one I have been exposed to.

What is some other options.

[XCoastie]

I have a Larue OBR Mount (LT-111) on my 308 rifle.

[reiswigt]

I have an ADM-H on my 308. it's beautifully machined and rock solid.
I'm very happy with it.

[Mitch1352]

I put a Nightforce 1-4 on a Larue LT-104 to use on my LMT 308. It looks rock solid.

[Kchen986]

Have you looked at the Burris PEPR? It's about $70, or about $90 for the QD version.

[Suwannee Tim]

My 308s have long enough receivers that I don't need the PEPR. I bought a PEPR recently and found lock washers under the nuts, not readily removable due to the screws being staked. Lock washers are not appropriate on a scope mount. I have used plain old Burris aluminum rings with good results. They are cheap and effective. I have them on a 375 RUM that kicks hard, I have 400 shots through it, no problem.

[Belmont31R]

The scope mount depends on the scope (eye relief), your preferred cheek position on the stock, and available receiver space.




Based on the above not enough information to answer the question.

[MistWolf]

It also will depend on how well the dimensions and eye relief of your choice of scope matches the rifle

[saleen]

I've used the LaRue LT-104 on numerous builds with a variety of scopes. I don't think you'll go wrong with that choice with 95% of the scopes you may opt for.

Just my .02


Saleen

[KillShot]

I'm using the American Defense AD-Recon and I've been nothing but happy with it.

http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/img/product/a9172a9866019e9fe015756313e598d7.jpg

[Nightvisionary]

I would go ADM over Larue. ADM's approach to locking lugs is superior to that of Larue.

[DWood]

I would go ADM over Larue. ADM's approach to locking lugs is superior to that of Larue.

Not sure I would say the ADM locking lugs are superior to LT's. I have both mounts and think they are both outstanding.

I have the SPR-E on an LMT .556 with a LT rail. I needed the extended mount to get the proper eye relief for my S&B short dot.

On my LMT MWS, I did not need an extended mount because of the monolithic rail. ADM was the only one piece mount that had enough space between the rings for my USO with TPAL side focus.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0897.jpg

[TAZ]

Basically any Picatinny ring set will work on an AR if you don't want to go quick release. So your choices are pretty much unlimited. I have used LaRue and ADM with good success. Both are rock solid wrt mounting. Can't tell you which is better wrt return to zero as I don't use them that way. Bobro also has a good following, but I have no first had experience. For standard rings I have and very good success with Badger and Seekins rings. LaRue plays in this area as well.

Ring heights and spacing will all depend on your preferred position and scope choice.

[Southpaw2011]

Hey All:

Got 2 LMT308MWSE on order and i wanted to ask if a member who has this model might know the entire length of the upper receiver or could measure the entire length of the upper receiver?

Looking at the Dark Ops scope 4-48x56mm for one of the
LMT308MWSE and have not found another scope with these features and magification in a more compact size.

The scope measures to 17 1/2" in length, need to know if it will fit or extend pass the rail?

TIA

[LonghunterCO]

I'm using the American Defense AD-Recon and I've been nothing but happy with it.

http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/img/product/a9172a9866019e9fe015756313e598d7.jpg

I just mounted up on this morning. Nice mount.

[RD62]

I too have an LMT MWS inbound and have been researching a suitable one piece QD scope mount.

I already use several ADM mounts for lights, bipods, and Aimpoints with zero issues, so my first instinct is to go ADM again. However after watching a review on Sniper's Hide which highlighted some possible issues with return to zero on the ADM I'm not as sure as I initially was.

I know Trident seems to run them with minimal (if any) issue, but for those others of you with experience with the ADM scope mounts, have had any noticeable issues with return to zero?

I don't intend to frequently remove and remount the optic, but would like the ability to do so without experiencing a dramatic shift in POA vs POI.

[BrigandTwoFour]

I too have an LMT MWS inbound and have been researching a suitable one piece QD scope mount.

I already use several ADM mounts for lights, bipods, and Aimpoints with zero issues, so my first instinct is to go ADM again. However after watching a review on Sniper's Hide which highlighted some possible issues with return to zero on the ADM I'm not as sure as I initially was.

I know Trident seems to run them with minimal (if any) issue, but for those others of you with experience with the ADM scope mounts, have had any noticeable issues with return to zero?

I don't intend to frequently remove and remount the optic, but would like the ability to do so without experiencing a dramatic shift in POA vs POI.

I use ADM on both my TR24 and an EOTech riser. Both mounts have come on and off their respective guns many times, mounted back up and never missed a beat.

ADM, Larue, and I'll throw in a pitch for Bobro. Any of those three will serve you well. There's been a lot of buzz at snipers hide about another maker called GDI. Those mounts are crazy $$$, though.

[theJanitor]

There are other answers other than Larue, but they're probably not better answers. They flat out work. Why experiment?

I use the OBR mount on my 7.62 Noveske. and the OBR mount can fit the USoptics scopes.

[zenghost]

How low do you want to mount the scope. How low can you mount it? I would prefer to keep the scope low depending on variables mentioned by others.

I like Larue's products, but am not sure if they make anything that will go low with some scopes (34mm tubes). ADM makes the Recon-SL mounts which go fairly low (1.19" for a 34mm tube I think). ADM makes good stuff.

Badger Ordnance also makes some one-piece mounts and is apparently providing the mount for GA Precision's GAP-10 semi-auto rig. I believe it will go down to 1.27".

PS - just read on SnipersHide.com where Larue has come out with a new lower height mount (LT120 - down to 1.285). Might be worth checking as well.

[09stanggt]

You could just use a riser like Badger Ordnance makes (22 moa built in) or YHM and then use low/medium rings. You could just use high rings meant for ARs, this will probably be the cheapest option.

[Alaskapopo]

I would go ADM over Larue. ADM's approach to locking lugs is superior to that of Larue.

Umm No!
Larue is better and easier to adjust in my experience. ADM's are either too tight or loose.
Pat

[theJanitor]

You CAN go too low, especially on an AR pattern gun. larue's SPR-S is about the lowest I can go on an AR.

Also remember, that depending on your intent, a happy medium in ring height is necessary for different shooting positions.

[krm375]

You could also look at a high end GDI or a non quick detach JP Enterprises.

http://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPFTSM-30/1

http://www.gdiengineering.com/store/products.html

[Yama Arashi]

I prefer the LT-158 (SPR-S) from LaRue.

[LtNovakUSA]

Another +1 for the Larue OBR mount. I've taken it off and put it back on numerous times and it's always retained zero. Keep the quick throw levers tight!

[nato762]

LMTmws w/ bobro & leupold mrt mk4 1.5x5

been rock solid for me

[Allrockabilly]

LMTmws w/ bobro & leupold mrt mk4 1.5x5

been rock solid for me

Bringing this old thread back.

I have heard a lot of great things about the Bobro mounts. I have never had the chance to use one of their mounts yet and they are a bit pricey but you usually get what you pay for. Would love to try one sometime.

I have been running several ADM mounts for a few years now with great outcome. I have also been using LaRue Ultra Low 30mm QD rings for my NightForce NXS 5.5-22x50 and the LaRue mounts have been top notch as well. I have also had the opportunity to play with the popular LT-104 QD one piece mount and it is a quality unit as well.

The debate over who's mount is better between LaRue and American Defense Manufacturing (ADM) is old but I still run into it all the time. They are both quality products from great companies and are around the same price point. You just need to research a bit and find the mount with the proper height and eye relief...etc. you won't be disappointed with either ADM or LaRue products and customer service.

Now days we are running into more companies with one peice mounts and new designs. some of these are doubling in price compared to ADM or LaRue. I have been researching some mounting systems that are running $400+ for a single mount.

Sorry for the ramble and bringing the old thread back since I'm sure there are plenty more just like it with the same topic I just happend to stumble onto this one through Google.

I Just started thinking about getting another one peice QD mount for my NF NXS 5.5-22x50 that will work on my bolt gun (Remington 700P LTR with a LaRue 20moa one peice rail) and on my flattop AR systems like my LMT308MWS. Yes I know I would have to re-zero and make adjustment for when I come off and on my 20moa mount to a plain flattop system but this is simple to me and fairly quick and easy.
As of right now I have my NightForce mounted up in the LaRue Ultra Low 30mm rings with QD levers which works perfect on my Remy 700p LTR setup but with a 50mm objective I cannot just take this off and put it on let say my LMT 308 MWS, this would require higher rings or mount. I have thought about getting a riser to try on my MWS or any AR and stick my NightForce on top of that but the only thing that worries me with this setup is stacking mounts... I would suspect that since this would not be a permanent setup accuracy would really go down hill. Is anyone running high power quality glass in this configuration??? If so any recommendations for a nice riser?

I also have a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP EBR-1 reticle scope mounted in a ADM AD-Recon-20moa One peice QD mount which obviously works great on my AR style rifles but I love my NightForce and would like to use it on more than just my bolt gun. If I had the money I would buy a NF to use just on my LMT308MWS and another for my 223 / 556 AR rifles but that's not happening anytime soon.

I have been thinking about trying the ADM Recon-S or SL to accomplish what I have been rambling about above. I would prefer the AD-Recon-SL since the height sonds just about right to me but not sure if the 50mm objective will hit on a flattop AR. The Recon-S will work but just wondering if anyone has had experience with the ADM-Recon-SL and a 50mm or even a 56mm objective scope on a flattop AR??

Ok this is a long enough rambling post so I will shut up now but just figured I would through this out and see if I have any response.

Thanks,

[Allrockabilly]

Old picture of my LMT 308 MWS with Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP EBR-1 reticle in a 30mm ADM recon 20moa QD mount.

Also a picture of my Remington 700P LTR with my NightForce NXS 5.5-22x50 MOAR reticle with LaRue Ultra Low 30mm rings with QD levers.

I will get updated pics later but these are the systems I was talking about in my above post.

Remy 700p LTR with NightForce 5.5-22x50 in LaRue Ultra Low rings.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zpsc61b2de0.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zps270e4dae.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zpsc316e496.jpg

pics of my LMT308MWS with Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 in a ADM recon 20moa mount.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zps23332a30.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zps67c492e8.jpg

Another Old picture of my LMT308MWS but running my NF mounted in a ADM recon 20moa QD mount. Would love to be able to afford another Nightforce to leave in this type of mount for my AR platforms.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/My%20AR%20pics/NF-LMT2.jpg

Old pic with my old Trijicon Accupoint 2.5-10x56 scope in a AD-Recon mount.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/My%20AR%20pics/LMT308Scope20in10.jpg

[caelumatra]

I recently installed my scope with Seekins rings on my AR308. The scope is 50mm objective so I used the 1.45" height rings and that worked out well.

I wish I could comment about their durability beyond what I observed in regards to the rigidity of the materials vs some crappier cheap ass rings I've used in the past. Unfortunately school has kept me too busy to go to the range. But maybe this weekend...maybe :)

http://www.seekinsprecision.com/scope-ring.html

For proper eye relief I have to max out my stock, so if you have a collapsible stock on your rifle then be aware that your eye relief will change dramatically when adjusting the stock and if you intend on shooting with the stock collapsed at all you should definitely look at getting a cantilevered mount.

Maybe someone with expertise could answer this however, do you need a cantilevered mount with a mono upper? It seems at first thought you would not, but the handguard will probably flex some even if mono but your upper will not.

[CC556]

I'm a fan of the cantilevered riser + conventional rings setup. I like it because it gives you more leeway on where everything goes, and you can put the scope right where you want it without having to worry about fixed ring spacing like you have with a 1 piece mount. Also, depending on the height of the riser and the rings you select you can ensure the scope is at just the right height for you.

Here's a rifle I had with a PRI 20MOA riser and some Seekins rings.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m255/90Z51/Guns/6XC/6XCSmall.jpg

[Allrockabilly]

I'm a fan of the cantilevered riser + conventional rings setup. I like it because it gives you more leeway on where everything goes, and you can put the scope right where you want it without having to worry about fixed ring spacing like you have with a 1 piece mount. Also, depending on the height of the riser and the rings you select you can ensure the scope is at just the right height for you.

Here's a rifle I had with a PRI 20MOA riser and some Seekins rings.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m255/90Z51/Guns/6XC/6XCSmall.jpg


Now this is exactly what I was thinking about. That looks like a quality riser and it looks like it would work for my needs and would probably work perfect with my current LaRue Ultra Low rings and since I am using a 20moa rail on my bolt gun getting this riser with 20moa built in would work perfectly, I wouldn't have to make as much correction when changing rifles.

That's a pretty slick looking rig you had.

Thanks for your response and pic.

[Allrockabilly]

I recently installed my scope with Seekins rings on my AR308. The scope is 50mm objective so I used the 1.45" height rings and that worked out well.

I wish I could comment about their durability beyond what I observed in regards to the rigidity of the materials vs some crappier cheap ass rings I've used in the past. Unfortunately school has kept me too busy to go to the range. But maybe this weekend...maybe :)

http://www.seekinsprecision.com/scope-ring.html

For proper eye relief I have to max out my stock, so if you have a collapsible stock on your rifle then be aware that your eye relief will change dramatically when adjusting the stock and if you intend on shooting with the stock collapsed at all you should definitely look at getting a cantilevered mount.

Maybe someone with expertise could answer this however, do you need a cantilevered mount with a mono upper? It seems at first thought you would not, but the handguard will probably flex some even if mono but your upper will not.


I know with LMT's Mono upper you don't need a cantilevered mount and the MWS I have is built tough and actually pretty heavy so I personally haven't experienced any flexing..etc.

I could just use medium to high rings or a straight up one piece QD mount and place the scope anywhere I want on the mono upper but I am just trying to get working with what I have and keep my NF scope setup how it is for my bolt gun but have the option to pop it off and throw it on my LMT MWS without changing the rings or mount..etc and I think a quality riser would do the trick for what I'm trying to accomplish.

I know those Seekins rings are pretty high end of the quality scale and have heard nothing but good things about them. Would love to see a pic of your set up if you have one.

Thanks,

[BrigandTwoFour]

If I didn't have a use for QD, and needed a cantilevered scope riser, I would be all over the AADMOUNT (http://www.aadmount.com/) offerings. Seems nice and beefy, and at a lower price point than GDI.

Whenever I can finish my .308 AR project, this will probably be the mount of choice.

http://www.aadmount.com/30mm/PICT0234.JPG

[Dave L.]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/laninga66/ADM20MOA2.jpg (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/laninga66/media/ADM20MOA2.jpg.html)

I like LaRue, but I haven't noticed much difference in quality or durability over the ADM. LaRue is more expensive and requires a tool.

[Allrockabilly]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/laninga66/ADM20MOA2.jpg (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/laninga66/media/ADM20MOA2.jpg.html)

I like LaRue, but I haven't noticed much difference in quality or durability over the ADM. LaRue is more expensive and requires a tool.

I agree and have found that ADM is actually getting better on the design of their mounts.
I just got done installing their new Tactical style levers on my older AD-Recon-20moa mount. I actually really like these new levers.

http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/571/

I also just got my hands on a brand new AD-Recon QD mount and they have redesigned parts of their mounts that use to be a bit weak. 1st would be the latches which you can now get the original style or new tactical style latches which have a bit more finger grab. 2nd would be they have beefed up the little springs in the mounting system, now they are stronger and stay in place rather than their older mounts where you had to be careful and make sure the mount wasn't to loose cause the springs could fall out. I did have a spring fall out one time a couple of years ago but like I said they have pretty much fixed this problem. Also all around the mount is a bit more solid. Also looks like they are making some of their new ring sets a bit better.

Sorry for the quick ramble but kind of in a hurry. Have to run off to work.

Below are pics of my AD-Recon-20moa mount which I just installed the new ADM tactical levers on.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zps30abc7f7.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zpsc5fb5839.jpg

Thanks,

[nickdrak]

I have been running LaRue mounts exclusively for going on 10 years now. I will continue to run them on my 5.56 guns with red dot optics.

I will never run a LaRue scope mount on a 7.62 rifle of any type.

At a John McPhee "Heavy Carbine Marksmanship" class I hosted here in IL last week there were no less than 7 rifles wearing LaRue mounts on their precision semi-auto rifles. Mostly 7.62x51 with a couple of 6.8SPC's and two 5.56 ARs in the class.

John told us that he expected issues from the LaRue mounts as he has witnessed them come loose during every one of his "Heavy" classes.

Out of the 7 LaRue mounts 5 worked them-self loose on TD2. All of the shooters mentioned that they had properly tightened their mounts when they first installed them.

Johns explanation make perfect sense if you think about it: a hardened steel, knife-edged camming lever using direct pressure against a softer aluminum receiver. Something is eventually gonna give. And it did.

I switched to Bobro mounts on my variable optics and ran one on my 7.62 LaRue PredatAR during the McPhee class. My Bobro mount didn't have any issues nor did a buddies he was running on his 7.62 SCAR.

John recommends either KAC bolt-on scope mounts or Badger rings for scoped 7.62 guns.

[565fitter]

I run the larue 104 mount and it has been zeroed every time I take it off the gun

[kevN]

I have both the adm and larue mounts and think both are good. I find the larue obr mount seems to give me better height than the 104 with my nightforce fxs 3.15-15. This is on a noveske n6 with standard rail height.

[RHINOWSO]

I use ADM extensively including an AD-RECON-S on my SCAR 17.

Note, if you ever lose a spring or damage a screw on an ADM mount, just email their customer service. I broke a screw and emailed them to buy a replacement, also mentioning needing a couple of springs. Less than 5 days later they had 2 screws and 8 springs in my mailbox, no charge.

[sgtbutt]

You could just use a riser like Badger Ordnance makes (22 moa built in) or YHM and then use low/medium rings. You could just use high rings meant for ARs, this will probably be the cheapest option.

I have a Badger 22 MOA for my Mega MA-Ten. I used the scope and rings from my bolt gun because I originally wanted to swap back and forth. Traded my bolt gun so this is dedicated on the Mega now. My scope and rings are Leupy Mark4

Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x40 M3 w/TMR
Leupold Mark 4 Medium rings
Badger 22 MOA riser

For me running a UBR this is perfect height but I usually go as low as possible. I did originally have a set of MBUSs on here but took them off as they were touching the ocular eye piece. I filed some material down and it fit but the spring tension still made it touch, so off it went

http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx320/sgtbutt/Mobile%20Uploads/Resampled_2012-05-24_18-11-46_144.jpg (http://s767.photobucket.com/user/sgtbutt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Resampled_2012-05-24_18-11-46_144.jpg.html)

[Allrockabilly]

I use ADM extensively including an AD-RECON-S on my SCAR 17.

Note, if you ever lose a spring or damage a screw on an ADM mount, just email their customer service. I broke a screw and emailed them to buy a replacement, also mentioning needing a couple of springs. Less than 5 days later they had 2 screws and 8 springs in my mailbox, no charge.

Yea other than the ultra low LaRue 30mm rings I use for my NightForce I use all ADM mounts. ADM has proven to me to be solid for a QD mount.
I use ADM QD mounts for my Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP scope (AD-recon-20moa mount). Also ADM QD mounts for 2 Aimpoint Micro T-1's and a QD mount for my Harris BRM-S bipod.

I have never actually lost a spring but had one fall out one time but that is very good to know that they will back their product and send you extra springs and screws.. Thanks for the info....

[Allrockabilly]

I have a Badger 22 MOA for my Mega MA-Ten. I used the scope and rings from my bolt gun because I originally wanted to swap back and forth. Traded my bolt gun so this is dedicated on the Mega now. My scope and rings are Leupy Mark4

Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x40 M3 w/TMR
Leupold Mark 4 Medium rings
Badger 22 MOA riser

For me running a UBR this is perfect height but I usually go as low as possible. I did originally have a set of MBUSs on here but took them off as they were touching the ocular eye piece. I filed some material down and it fit but the spring tension still made it touch, so off it went

http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx320/sgtbutt/Mobile%20Uploads/Resampled_2012-05-24_18-11-46_144.jpg (http://s767.photobucket.com/user/sgtbutt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Resampled_2012-05-24_18-11-46_144.jpg.html)

Nice setup.. I have actually been looking at the Badger riser to try and move my NightForce off my bolt gun over to my LMT308MWS when I feel the need.

Also I just got done (10 minutes ago) finally installing a MagPul UBR that I have been wanting for a long time on my LMT308MWS. I'm in love already and haven't got a chance to shoot it yet.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allrockabilly/null_zps7303355b.jpg

Thanks for the info.