View Full Version : What is the longest shot you have made with your Aimpoint?
wild_wild_wes
09-24-07, 20:23
Simple question: What is the longest shot you have made with your Aimpoint?
Robb Jensen
09-24-07, 20:27
AR = 500yds (Range 305 at Quantico), 4MOA Aimpoint M2 on my 10.3" LMT SBR suppressed and it took me 5-6 shots to hit a 14" steel plate with a 55gr XM193 round. Talk about some serious Tennessee elevation!
AK = About 135yds on a 9x12" plate with a forward mounted 2MOA Aimpoint C3 on my Arsenal SLR106FR in 3 seconds with the safety on (using American Eagle 55gr) from a low ready at the Vickers AK class. :D
"You're a death dealing mother f*****"--Larry Vickers 03/11/07 to me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/AK%20class%20pics/VTAKROBB.jpg
200 yards, Aimpoint ML3 on a Colt 6933 (11.5" "pencil" barrel) on an 8" steel from prone using the magazine as a monopod firing XM193. Accurate enough to call my misses when I did something wrong.
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800M, on a military pop-up range from prone. The magnifier is very helpful out past a couple hundred meters, but even with it the far shots were
unreliable.
200yds. 1/2 IPSC target @ South Hill Range with mixed results in failing light.
One of the primary reasons I opted for a Short Dot.
Robb Jensen
09-24-07, 21:15
200yds. 1/2 IPSC target @ South Hill Range with mixed results in failing light.
One of the primary reasons I opted for a Short Dot.
Wussy............;)
wild_wild_wes
09-24-07, 21:43
500 and 800 meters, eh? How many shots did it take to get the proper "hold-over"?
Can we answer if we use non-Aimpoint red dots?
(I can hit an IPSC metric target with mostly As and a few Cs from 240 yards with my EoTech and I used to do it with an old Tasco PDP5CMP before it died).
250yds at a 12" steel square are the only measured shots Ive taken with an ML2 on a 14.5 carbine and a 2 moa ML3 on a 16" mid.
I dont count rock twacking for fun in the desert, even though that has been at longer ranges.
Wussy............;)
I still use Aimpoints with the 4MOA dot, but after seeing the failure rate nearing sunset with some pretty good shooters in prone, I decided there had to be "something better".
With the TA31F, I rang it easily in LESS light than we shot the walk-back in, and it's really the one thing I point back to as sealing the deal on a 1-4x for me.
300 yards at Tiger Valley with an ML3, 2moa on a Colt 16" HBar.
Robb Jensen
09-24-07, 21:55
I still use Aimpoints with the 4MOA dot, but after seeing the failure rate nearing sunset with some pretty good shooters in prone, I decided there had to be "something better".
With the TA31F, I rang it easily in LESS light than we shot the walk-back in, and it's really the one thing I point back to as sealing the deal on a 1-4x for me.
Variables are KING. That's why I use a 1.5-5x for 3gun/Multi-gun! ;)
500 and 800 meters, eh? How many shots did it take to get the proper "hold-over"?
Past 600M it took 'several' shots to find the right foliage patch in the trees at the back edge of the range for the sweet spot. Closer in it was just a matter of finding the right number of 4MOA dots to hold over ;)
wild_wild_wes
09-24-07, 22:09
Can we answer if we use non-Aimpoint red dots?
(I can hit an IPSC metric target with mostly As and a few Cs from 240 yards with my EoTech and I used to do it with an old Tasco PDP5CMP before it died).
Permission given in retrospect for non-Aimpoint red dots!
the EoTech is a bit of a stretch, but I'll allow it
Permission given in retrospect for non-Aimpoint red dots!
the EoTech is a bit of a stretch, but I'll allow it
Whew! :D
I shot a 3-gun match a couple of months ago that had 300 yard shots, but I took my trusty Leupold Vari-X II 1-4X20mm for that. And I still had six misses (of 32 shots 300 and 200 combined). So not only does that not count for this topic, but it also proves that I suck. :D
300yds standing with my 2MOA Aimpoint M3 on an LMT SBR upper with suppressor. First shot missed and the rest of the rounds after that found their mark.
AR = 500yds (Range 305 at Quantico), 4MOA Aimpoint M2 on my 10.3" LMT SBR suppressed and it took me 5-6 shots to hit a 14" steel plate with a 55gr XM193 round. Talk about some serious Tennessee elevation!
AK = About 135yds on a 9x12" plate with a forward mounted 2MOA Aimpoint C3 on my Arsenal SLR106FR in 3 seconds with the safety on (using American Eagle 55gr) from a low ready at the Vickers AK class. :D
"You're a death dealing mother f*****"--Larry Vickers 03/11/07 to me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/AK%20class%20pics/VTAKROBB.jpg
Great AK set up that you have there. Not to hijack the thread but who makes the Aimpoint mount you have on there and the rail?
Robb Jensen
09-25-07, 04:34
Great AK set up that you have there. Not to hijack the thread but who makes the Aimpoint mount you have on there and the rail?
UltiMak rail with a OEM Aimpoint ring (it comes with the C3s).
oldcrusty72
09-25-07, 10:49
Permission given in retrospect for non-Aimpoint red dots!
the EoTech is a bit of a stretch, but I'll allow it
lol, does a Trijicon reflex II count on a .50BMG QCB mounted on a vehicle? 2500m to a toyota Ute,(sports truck). 3x 2rnd burst to adjust on.
:D
Robb Jensen
09-25-07, 10:51
lol, does a Trijicon reflex II count on a .50BMG QCB mounted on a vehicle? 2500m to a toyota Ute,(sports truck). 3x 2rnd burst to adjust on.
:D
Damn that's awesome! :D
Damn that's awesome! :D
You said it!:D
lol, does a Trijicon reflex II count on a .50BMG QCB mounted on a vehicle? 2500m to a toyota Ute,(sports truck). 3x 2rnd burst to adjust on.
:D
Always a smart ass in the crowd. Seriously though, good show! :)
nationwide
09-27-07, 10:13
450 yards the other day. Down at the lease where I shoot, there are some helium tanks at the bend in the river. Probably held about 12" high with my 11.5" SBR.
wild_wild_wes
09-27-07, 22:26
ONLY 12" of holdover? From a short barrel? Who needs a BDC then...
200 yards on a 12" steel plate with my suppressed 10.5" LMT SBR.
250 yds, 8" round plates. 4 moa ML2. 14.5" barrel.
1000 yd shot.. in a high wind.. only one or two guys in the whole world could have made that shot...;)
seriously..300 yds on 16" steel plates.. 16" carbine..
638 Yards by LRF at Storm Mountain Training Center, 16" bbl, Win 55grain soft points. Position was prone with mag on ground. 2MOA aimpoint. Target was an iron maiden...steel man sized silhouette.
I don't remember how many shots it took to get the proper hold over. Once we figured it out, I could hit it better than half the time.
davemcdonald
10-11-07, 20:47
Consistant hits at 500 yrds on 14" wide moving and bobbing target. Gusts up to 15 crossing from left. Prone unsupported but resting mag. At Tiger Vally on the 1000 yrd range last month. LMT with a 16" Mike Rock barrel and a Short Dot LE.
edited to add:
My 75gr reloads
wild_wild_wes
10-14-07, 22:06
Interesting thread on TOS. I won't link to it since I'm banned there. But here is an interesting exerpt:
Gunfighter- I train people for a living. Mostly Mil. The Marines i work with despise- to a man- the RCO.
Let's look at this from a more useful perspective.
The RCO requires training- a fair amount of it. It is not often given, and when so, sometimes incorrect- as was the case in CamPen last month.
Within 50m, the RCO is at a disadvantage. I watched that (again) this week when a group of very skilled instructors- and some serious lifetakers- using RCO's were unable to keep up with others who mainly sported RDS.
That you may shoot well with it is irrelevant. It is whether the L/Cpl can.
The RCO POI states that before entering a structure, you should wait 10 minutes for the xxoptic xx(CORRECTION) eyes to acclimate to the dark as the reticle is faint.
Terrific.
Guidance in theatre is that it has to be re zeroed every 30 days.
I own two. I shoot them, though not often as they do not fill the mission requirements as well as an Aimpoint, Short Dot, EOTech and possible other optics do.
The Aimpoint is easier to teach. Easier to use, and fully capable out to the max realistic range of the M4A1, and further with the 3x magnifier.
And it can do it for a whole lot less.
The RCO would be more useful as issued one per Fire Team or one per squad.
Re challenging anyone. I realize the the errornet is similar to beer balls. Cute, but i just spent 36 hours this past weekend shooting 2400rds of 5.56x45 ball doing exactly that.
I'll stand by my statement, based on my experience.
That post was by Pat_Rogers
At the local outdoor range is a silhouette range with berms at 200, 300, 400, and 500 meters. Took a couple of 12 X 18" steel plates (http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=21&Number=335044&Searchpage=1&Main=25110&Words=+Tango+Alpha&topic=0&Search=true#Post335044) and set them up at the 1st and 2nd berms and my brother and I, alternating shooting / spotting, made hits with ammoman XM855PD 62 gr green tip ammo, and 77 gr MK262 seconds.
There were what looked to be slightly larger rectangle plates at the 3rd and 4th berm and the wind was blowing from roughly 220 - 240 relative at a steady 15-20 knots. At times the wind shifted to almost 180 relative, which was nice. Had to make a slight hold over and kentucky windage a tad left to make hits on those with more misses of course.
Nothing fancy, just alot of fun.
Rifle / optic: LE6920, Aimpoint CompM2 4MOA.
toddackerman
10-26-07, 18:21
Simple question: What is the longest shot you have made with your Aimpoint?
200 yd. head shot from Prone.
Tack
toddackerman
10-26-07, 23:20
Head shot on what?
IPSC Regulation Target
Tack
nationwide
10-27-07, 09:28
ONLY 12" of holdover? From a short barrel? Who needs a BDC then...
But I have no idea where I hit the tank.
As we all know, shot placement is the difference between taking down a threat or exposing yourself needlessly...
I had to look up what a RCO was:
RCO = Rifle Combat Optic = ACOG – Advanced Combat Optical Gunsights
ACOG's for the US Army (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=345638&page=1), barfcom
Interesting thread on TOS. I won't link to it since I'm banned there. But here is an interesting exerpt:
[I]Gunfighter- I train people for a living. Mostly Mil. The Marines i work with despise- to a man- the RCO....
... snip ...
That post was by Pat_Rogers
But I have no idea where I hit the tank.
Only curious..., how did you know you hit it? Maybe you heard the steel impacted? We couldn't hear the steel being hit on the 200m berm, but could see each impact with a spotter scope - but then again, the wind was from behind us and to the left.
Mine was about 1/4 mile. I wasn't aiming at anything in particular, but I took the shot. :p
I've never shot at a target past 200 yds with mine.
nationwide
11-11-07, 07:47
Only curious..., how did you know you hit it? Maybe you heard the steel impacted? We couldn't hear the steel being hit on the 200m berm, but could see each impact with a spotter scope - but then again, the wind was from behind us and to the left.
PING!!!!
:p
I thought of this thread while on the range today trying to zero - it was the first time I shot my carbine with the M2 on it.
I had roughly 4" circles to shoot at, probably not the best target, but the best I had available. 50 yard indoor range, improvised support to lay the rifle over. My groups were typically between 1.5 and 2", usually a few together and one off by itself. I have a very slight astigmatism, just enough to make the dot slightly fuzzy; poor safetly glasses didn't help.
Not enough light to really use the irons, so I simply matched them to the dot and left them for later. I'd really like to try again with better targets and a good prone position (I usually shoot better on miniature silhouettes)
I shot noticably better with the can on, including one (very) lucky group that was one hole.
So, another question for the thread - what sort of groups are you guys getting with M193 and 4moa dot at 50 yards?
If we actually get that "refund" check they're talking about, I know what I'm getting.. something in 4x.
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6mm plastic bb, off hand.:p
SIMPLYDYNAMIC
01-29-08, 01:52
LOL!
500 yards aimpoint ML2/5.56mm...........KD range, Camp Lejeune, NC:(
50m Aimpoint ML2/40mm......................Haji in a window, Mosul, Iraq:)
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300 Yards at Thurmont Maryland last year. Aimpoint M2 with 4moa dot.
Right at 400yds on running coyote , course it took me about half a magazine.
I don't know if I mentioned it, but I shot a 3-gun match last year with one rifle stage that had targets at 200 and 300 yards. One of the guys on my squad did very well with an EOTech and good trigger control. I did poorly with my Leupold 1-4X and craptacular trigger control.
I wrote this over a year and a half ago on this board in a simular discussion (not the furthest shot, but a long shot that I take on regular occassion at my local range):
I have (2) ML2's with the 4 MOA, (2) ML3's with the 2 MOA dot, and (1) ML3 with the 4 MOA dot. I prefer the 4 MOA as it's much easier to pick up quickly.
I perfer the 4 MOA dot instead of the 2 MOA dot. The 4 MOA dot is easier to see under extreemly bright conditions (sun reflecting off the snow, etc). Some guys get wrapped around the axel about precision shots with a 4 MOA dot. This is a non-issue because at 300 yards the dot is only 12" in diameter, not big enough to cover a man's chest. At distances over 300 yards you are going to be holding over the target, so you don't have to worry about the dot covering up your target.
I have been using the Aimpoint on entries for the last 6 or 7 years in all types of conditions....Last weekend I wast using this gun (Aimpoint ML2) to shoot steel a steel gong (18" - 24" in size) at 425 yards. I missed the first shot as I was aiming too high. I put the dot so that the bottom 1/5 of the dot was covering the top 1/5 of the target and hit the next 19 shots in a row....In the prone position my only support was using the magazine as a mono-pod:
http://www.coloradoshooting.org/usmc03%20fg1.jpg
Semper Fi,
Jeff
600 yards with a Micro T-1 and Aimpoint 3X Magnifier on a Noveske N4 VIS 2A 14.5" Afghan carbine last weekend. Rang a Salute Products 10-8/EAG Steel Target on their DOD MilSpec base repeatedly.
S/F
About 400 yards on the back lot at Gunsite. Tried at one farther than that but in the fistailing wind I couldn't connect.
With practice pepper poppers at 300 are a piece of cake.
shooter521
04-26-08, 23:10
300 yards on half-IPSC type steel targets. Aimpoint COMP-ML, 4MOA dot.
wild_wild_wes
05-10-08, 00:15
600 yards with a Micro T-1 and Aimpoint 3X Magnifier on a Noveske N4 VIS 2A 14.5" Afghan carbine last weekend. Rang a Salute Products 10-8/EAG Steel Target on their DOD MilSpec base repeatedly.
S/F
Outstanding!!!
I have to get me one of those T-1s...
300 yard hits on a pop up target system with Aimpoint Comp ML3.
481 meters w/ a 10 mph crosswind. ML2 on a N4- chest sized steel plate. It was about a 4-6 moa hold over and up.
CarlosDJackal
05-29-08, 21:34
Just over 300-yards at a 3-gun match in NC with my M2 and 3x magnifier. I think it was a 12-inch steel plate using a 16-inch Bushy CAR-15. I regularly shoot at a 20-inch plate at 300-yards with my T-1 both with and without the magnifier with my LWRC 10.5-inch SBR.
wild_wild_wes
05-29-08, 21:45
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/untitleddr.jpg
I think you meant One million friggin' yards!
CarlosDJackal
05-30-08, 14:12
I think you meant One million friggin' yards!
With the help of "lasers"?
I was shooting with a guy I recently met a month ago. We hiked back to the 450 yard mark. He was getting some hits on a manhole sized gong from back there. I was getting more hits with irons of course. But he was doing pretty good.
urbankaos04
06-04-08, 00:07
Not to shabby for the ol' Aimpoints.
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